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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by fergie001: 8:58pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:
I wonder how he won.lp greatest strength was in zone C.Daniel onjeh almost won mark,Moro should have been easier except he made a deal.suswan loss was mostly because of fr Alia while ortom loss was sealed
Moro, the Immigration man.

garfield1:


Atiku never had a chance except in niger
Yes

garfield1:


I believe hunkuyi,makarfi,el rufai reached a deal.maybe they will sacrifice ashiru isa
Mar 18 will show the true picture.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by garfield1: 9:01pm On Mar 11, 2023
fergie001:

Moro, the Immigration man.

Yes

Mar 18 will show the true picture.

I heard abia apc has abandoned emwnike for mascot
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Zincfingers: 9:02pm On Mar 11, 2023
Zandena:
The major thing that worked against Atiku was the Islamic scholars from north. They viewed Atiku as anti- Islamists politician who ever said and i quote: "God doesn't answer the prayers of the masses ". This has set him against most frontline clerics of northern extraction such as late Sheikh ja'afar, Sheikh Al-Baniy Zaria and their living students who now constitute major influential scholars.
They also bear grudges against Atiku on the assassination of Sheikh Ja'afar and Sheikh Al-Baniy as former was killed when Atiku was VP while Al-Baniy was killed during PDP administration. This is giving the scholars an impression that PDP and Atiku are not their favourite
Did those great scholars support Tinubu ?
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by highchief1: 9:03pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
Atiku did well up North so I don't understand u guys oooo... PDP won katsina yobe kaduna gombe bauchi sokoto adamawa taraba kebbi
margin bro.no be to win try Dey check margin.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Zincfingers: 9:03pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
Atiku did well up North so I don't understand u guys oooo... PDP won katsina yobe kaduna gombe bauchi sokoto adamawa taraba kebbi
He did well indeed!
Look at the margin nah
He was even obliterated in Kano. The power house of the North.
He struggled in Sokoto too grin
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by HNICEARTH: 9:04pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:
For me,it is because of the reasons I enumerated before the polls and many more.

Firstly,the north or core north only rallies behind radical,fanatic muslims or Muslims that appear simple,sharia driven,conservative like ahmadu bello,buhari etc.atiku lacks these features

Amongst all you listed, the above is the only reason.

Atiku is a watered down muslim. A westernized muslim who appeals more as a nigerian than an arewa. He hardly castigates the south in favor of the north. He wears suit and blend with southerners. He is not a hardliner, such a person will never get bloc votes from the north.

Again, the muslim muslim ticket was not the reason Tinubu got some measurable votes from the north, rather it has alot to do with the personality of his VP. Shettima is the ideal personality core northerners always like to vote for. An extremist who will never support a national agenda, but rather fight only for any agenda that will benefit arewa and the muslim umma. That's how the north votes

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by garfield1: 9:07pm On Mar 11, 2023
HNICEARTH:


Amongst all you listed, the above is the only reason.

Atiku is a watered down muslim. A westernized muslim who appeals more as a nigerian than an arewa. He hardly castigates the south in favor of the north. He wears suit and blend with southerners. He is not a hardliner, such a person will never get bloc votes from the north.

Again, the muslim muslim ticket was not the reason Tinubu got some measurable votes from the north, rather it has alot to do with the personality of his VP. Shettima is the ideal personality core northerners always like to vote for. An extremist who will never support a national agenda, but rather fight only for any agenda that will benefit arewa and the muslim umma. That's how the north votes

But shettima struggled to win borno

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Parachoko: 9:09pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:
Even small tofa did better up north than atiku.atiku is overrated.only pdp gives him levels
Before the Election, I dey always stand my ground say Atiku can never be compared with the likes of Buhari in the core North.

Even though the 2007 Election was not free and fair, we all saw how Atiku performed woefully against Yardua and Buhari.

I was confident Atiku won't defeat Asiwaju in the North West and North East and I also knew is going to be a very tight battle between the two of them.

I was confident Asiwaju will win so far Obi does not step down. There was no point in time I got shaken Asiwaju will lose. You also believe 100% Asiwaju will win the election. You do say if you start seeing signs he will lose, then you will let us know.

Obi made Asiwaju victory possible

Buhari woeful performance wey him com top up with cashless policy would have made Tinubu stand no chance against a United PDP.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Parachoko: 9:11pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:


But shettima struggled to win borno
I couldn't believe Buhari and the APC will make BVAS be compulsory for the 2023 Election.

If the Opposition was united, the APC would have stand no chance because of Buhari horrible performance.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by fiizznation: 9:16pm On Mar 11, 2023
Atiku is an elitist and these kind of people don't connect very well with the masses. I believe the major reason the man failed wasn't even because of Obi/Kwankwaso, but rather because of the disconnection he has with the average northerner.

What did buhari used in hoodwinking the northern masses when he started contesting for the presidential election since 2003? It was his pro-masses ideology. Buhari presented himself as the champion of the talakawas.

And well, this can't be said about Atiku. And funny enough, Atiku has uplifted more northerners( both poor and middle class ) than buhari will ever do.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by chymeze: 9:21pm On Mar 11, 2023
fergie001:
Whilst some of your reasons are valid, this was Atiku's best performance in the North.

First, he won all NE States except Borno (where APC votes were even abysmal "in your words"

He won 3 NW States (Kaduna, Katsina & Kebbi).

He won Yobe, Kebbi, Kaduna & Katsina. You called all of these States for APC in your predictions before the election.

Atiku's loss can rest in the NC (where the PDP failed to win one State). Asides the SE, that was the only Zone they didn't win any State.
Exactly. Atiku's problem wasn't the north but his failure to win in zones that were hitherto PDP's hotcakes like the North Central, South East and South South, which voted massively for Obi. Just add up Atiku's vote with Peter Obi, and you'd see that Atiku would have won by landslide if Obi didn't take away those key zones mentioned. Like you rightly mentioned, this was Atiku's best outing in the north so far, at least he didn't have someone in the mould of Buhari to contend with over there.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by JASONjnr(m): 9:29pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu rigged atiku in the north? Are you ok

I told you elections were rigged and figures were given to place a certain candidate as a winner and you're asking me a stupid question.....
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by justified007: 9:29pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:


The loss of yobe was surprising and then kaduna also.I wonder if the govs sabotaged tinubu



Tinubu was obviously sabotaged in Yobe state . I think there was last minute rigging in favour of Atiku in some of the northern states if not he would have finished 3rd in the contest

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by HNICEARTH: 9:32pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:


But shettima struggled to win borno

Not shettima, rather APC. Buhari crashed down APC's goodwill all over nigeria.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by oyatz(m): 9:36pm On Mar 11, 2023
Atiku actually tried and he got block votes from the core North winning eight out of thirteen States of NW+ NE.

The division of the opposition into PDP,LP,NNPP and G-5 made it very difficult to win. The Labour party maximally exploit the Muslim-muslim ticket controversy to steal the Christian voters who traditionally always prefer the PDP to APC...Peter Obi just poured sand-sand for Atiku's garri.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:39pm On Mar 11, 2023
Zincfingers:

He did well indeed!
Look at the margin nah
He was even obliterated in Kano. The power house of the North.
He struggled in Sokoto too grin
he did if LP didn't happen APC could have lost esp with pmb introducing that useless naira policy... again PDP is still strong and can defeat APC come 2027 if they regroup well...

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by oyatz(m): 9:40pm On Mar 11, 2023
justified007:




Tinubu was obviously sabotaged in Yobe state . I think there was last minute rigging in favour of Atiku in some of the northern states if not he would have finished 3rd in the contest

They may be rigging for Atiku but Buhari's style of Administration especially the ill-motivated Naira redesign and scarcity and the artificial fuel scarcity on the eve of the election had made it very difficult to market the APC to the electorates, the only saving grace for the APC was the fractionalization of the opposition

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Zincfingers: 9:41pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
he did if LP didn't happen APC could have lost esp with pmb introducing that useless naira policy... again PDP is still strong and can defeat APC come 2027 if they regroup well...
Lol
Tinubu would win a second term easily if he's interested.
Tinubu is not Buhari.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by oyatz(m): 9:42pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
he did if LP didn't happen APC could have lost esp with pmb introducing that useless naira policy... again PDP is still strong and can defeat APC come 2027 if they regroup well...
. If Peter Obi get it right, the Labour party may upstage the PDP as the leading opposition party
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:46pm On Mar 11, 2023
oyatz:
. If Peter Obi get it right, the Labour party may upstage the PDP as the leading opposition party
u guys are joking where ll LP pass to make in roads to NW NE... Even in NC it's just a figment...in SS PDP is still strong the guber State assembly polls ll show u guys that LP is still a minority party... It ll just be like APGA that's popular in Igboland finish... PDP APC remains the foremost national party

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by garfield1: 9:47pm On Mar 11, 2023
justified007:




Tinubu was obviously sabotaged in Yobe state . I think there was last minute rigging in favour of Atiku in some of the northern states if not he would have finished 3rd in the contest

True
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by garfield1: 9:48pm On Mar 11, 2023
JASONjnr:


I told you elections were rigged and figures were given to place a certain candidate as a winner and you're asking me a stupid question.....

Give us evidence
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:48pm On Mar 11, 2023
Zincfingers:

Lol
Tinubu would win a second term easily if he's interested.
Tinubu is not Buhari.
u guys don't understand Politics anyway first tinubu govt has to get a good rating ist then if PDP regroup well withe obi kwankwanso back to d fold it ll won't be easy... Tinubu is no buhari that has block votes waiting somewhere...

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by oyatz(m): 9:52pm On Mar 11, 2023
Zincfingers:

Lol
Tinubu would win a second term easily if he's interested.
Tinubu is not Buhari.
Bross, never say such things anymore, Nigeria is fast changing.

If the labour party can redefine party politics in Nigeria by;

1) Embark on aggressive membership drive to include majority of the Youths accross regional, religious and ethnic lines.
2) Encourage all workers to join the party and see it as their own,including all Okada riders, NURTW, NUJ, ASUU,NBA and the masses.
The masses are more than the elites.
3) Ensure that members pay monthly dues to run the party and no single individual is financing the party, thus nobody is too strong within the party.
4) Make their nomination fees a multiple of the minimum wage e.g 5 times the Minimum Wage.
5) Regularly meet every month to brainstorm on the problems facing the country and proffer solutions to it.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by fergie001: 9:55pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:


I heard abia apc has abandoned emwnike for mascot
It's OUK doing his magic. He hasn't hidden his desire for Abia North!

They will consolidate around APP (his brother). There is also possibility that the LP guy in that Constituency will work for APP.

It's some kind of game you know, even Otti backed Abaribe against Onyeizu. It's all horse-trading rn.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by oyatz(m): 9:56pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
u guys are joking where ll LP pass to make in roads to NW NE... Even in NC it's just a figment...in SS PDP is still strong the guber State assembly polls ll show u guys that LP is still a minority party... It ll just be like APGA that's popular in Igboland finish... PDP APC remains the foremost national party
It is NOT going to happen overnight but gradually...it is possible.

If ordinary people are given Labour Party tickets to contest and people rally round them to win, it will inspire other people to troop to the LP
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Zincfingers: 9:56pm On Mar 11, 2023
oyatz:
Bross, never say such things anymore, Nigeria is fast changing.

If the labour party can redefine party politics in Nigeria by;

1) Embark on aggressive membership drive to include majority of the Youths accross regional, religious and ethnic lines.
2) Encourage all workers to join the party and see it as their own,including all Okada riders, NURTW, NUJ, ASUU,NBA and the masses.
The masses are more than the elites.
3) Ensure that members pay monthly dues to run the party and no single individual is financing the party, thus nobody is too strong within the party.
4) Make their nomination fees a multiple of the minimum wage e.g 5 times the Minimum Wage.
5) Regularly meet every month to brainstorm on the problems facing the country and proffer solutions to it.
The LP's success was because of Tinubu's MM ticket. It unified the majority Christians behind Obi.
The whole LP was orchestrated in Tinubu's bedroom in Bourdilon.
Tinubu would consolidate his grip on Nigeria as soon as he's sworn in.
First thing he'd do is to dismantle LP he created . Go figure! grin grin

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Zincfingers: 9:57pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
u guys don't understand Politics anyway first tinubu govt has to get a good rating ist then if PDP regroup well withe obi kwankwanso back to d fold it ll won't be easy... Tinubu is no buhari that has block votes waiting somewhere...
Tinubu would perform. I have so much believe in him.
Nigeria's elite are not disciplined. Most of them would soon run to APC grin grin.

The only problem is Kwankwanso. That dude worked for Tinubu in the last election .
He would be replacing Atiku as the biggest Northern fish in the PDP.

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 10:00pm On Mar 11, 2023
Zincfingers:

Tinubu would perform. I have so much believe in him.
Nigeria's elite are not disciplined. Most of them would soon run to APC grin grin.

The only problem is Kwankwanso. That dude worked for Tinubu in the last election .
He would be replacing Atiku as the biggest Northern fish in the PDP.
kwankwanso is a solid dude pragmatic unlike Obi that's overhyped.. and ran a divisive ethno religious campaign...

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by Zincfingers: 10:04pm On Mar 11, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
kwankwanso is a solid dude pragmatic unlike Obi that's overhyped.. and ran a divisive ethno religious campaign...
Exactly

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Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by garfield1: 10:16pm On Mar 11, 2023
fergie001:
It's OUK doing his magic. He hasn't hidden his desire for Abia North!

They will consolidate around APP (his brother). There is also possibility that the LP guy in that Constituency will work for APP.

It's some kind of game you know, even Otti backed Abaribe against Onyeizu. It's all horse-trading rn.

No matter what,alex Otti is home and dry
Re: Why Did Atiku Fail To Get Bloc Votes From The North? by fergie001: 10:22pm On Mar 11, 2023
garfield1:
No matter what,alex Otti is home and dry
It will be tough but one consensus rn is that you can't interview 5 people and you even hear 1 say PDP or APC.

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