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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by kelvindj98: 4:16pm On Mar 12, 2023
SmellingAnus:
Prosperity gospel is very important in the Kingdom however , it depends on how it is been delivered and the motive behind it ... Many religious leaders have used it as a tool to scam innocent naive people... Like Benny Hinn will say, the gospel is free but the means of delivering the gospel is not free ... He spends millions of dollars almost on monthly basis to either be on air (TBN) or to organize a crusade ... That is why I say prosperity gospel is important... Even in Bible times, there are people that gave their lands, properties . I believe in Balanced message.
Like ur Anus your comment stinks
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by lilyheaven: 4:21pm On Mar 12, 2023
Be casing around.
You people be talking like only in Nigeria crimes are committed.
We still have nice human beings in Nigeria.
I don’t know if you are bad or good.
Sure you are among the bad eggs to generalize 🤥
bakobenjamin198:
Shut up my friend! Call a Spade a Spade. Aren't worse scenarios happening in Nigeria? So, why won't he be at liberty to use Nigeria as a case study?

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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by ZKOSOSO(m): 4:54pm On Mar 12, 2023
ictplotter:

Same propaganda you hav be brainwashed with just because they don't want you to see the truth. Do you hav any Quran verse to support those your blackmailing. The truth hav come the darkness must disappear, Islam is the fast growing faith today in America, Europe, Asia, Africa etc.
Quran 47:4-9. Right here are the motivation for terrorism and jihad, Da'awa... WINE. WoMen. Milk. Honey. Water.

The TRUE God doesn't ask his children to keep killing people he created just to keep some gangsters in business.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by psucc(m): 5:14pm On Mar 12, 2023
dankorode:
haaa! where do you see that One?
you think I'm joking here?

I mean they will bring in the POS machine and account number in case you left your ATM card, you do transfer.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by mastermaestro(m): 5:47pm On Mar 12, 2023
blahc007:
Someone must have tried showing you the true word of God, but because you need it sharp sharp, you run go meet a scammer, got scammed, here you are shouting Pastors are scammers..

Mama na you be the real fake brethren. The Yahoo pastor cashed in on your greed and impatience....

After you don report the pastor finish, report your self

You have pointed out what is common to these victims of religious scam. They all don't have ears to hear the true Word of GOD explained to them explicitly from the Bible. If it's not vision, prophecy or revelation, count them out. grin

I don't pity them whenever a 'prophet' empties their accounts with 'beautiful visions'. grin Nonsense and maga! grin
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by mastermaestro(m): 5:52pm On Mar 12, 2023
Tonalphs:
grin grin grin wahala for we wey nor dey go church year in year out. If we tell them that God is within, they'll think we're forming woke.

Better retrace your steps before it's too late. The church is GOD'S only approved institution on earth for worship and fellowship. Join a church quickly and embrace CHRIST fully.
Happy Sunday! smiley
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by icedbreez(m): 5:58pm On Mar 12, 2023
Fake pastors is the biggest sign that there are real pastors out there too.

People who like criticizing the church and pastors will love this thread not because they sympathize with the victim but because they see an opportunity to slam the body of Christ.

Continue.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Tomsaintly: 6:07pm On Mar 12, 2023
And the pastor took the money... Chaiii. Honestly, if we can be less 'religious' in this country and more 'Godly', things will improve. You can pray for yourself- you don't need a pastor to do that for you.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by justmondris: 6:17pm On Mar 12, 2023
Blame your foolishness for your debt. This is what happens when you don’t read your Bible. Did any body pay for a miracle in the Bible?
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Ablemed: 6:21pm On Mar 12, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
That's the reason why some former 'prosperity' preachers, for instance, Benny Hinn, ditched the gospel.

It is a scam! Fall for it at your own peril.

It doesn't lead to the prosperity of many as falsely claimed.

It only prospers a few but impoverishes many because it is rooted in covetousness, which in the root of stealing, ritual killing, fraud, looting, corruption, etc., and that can never lead to the prosperity of many.

Are you saying Benny Hinn is a fake prophet?
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by blahc007: 6:47pm On Mar 12, 2023
mastermaestro:


You have pointed out what is common to these victims of religious scam. They all don't have ears to hear the true Word of GOD explained to them explicitly from the Bible. If it's not vision, prophecy or revelation, count them out. grin

I don't pity them whenever a 'prophet' empties their accounts with 'beautiful visions'. grin Nonsense and maga! grin

No mind them ...foolish people..

If there are fake pastors, then there are fake brethrens....and she be one of them..

They can't even sit in one place for 30mins when you are showing them scriptures ...naso there nyash go de scratch Dem.....

Me too I no de pity them at all...

My vex be say na tru them devil de get opportunity to black paint the body of Christ and genuine ministers....

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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by uvie66: 8:43pm On Mar 12, 2023
incandescentena:


Gullible sheep. To slap you dey hungry.

If na your fellow neighbor ask you for little money, food you go spit on dem face.


Eyes clear now wen men of fraud(god) chop you clean mouth.

Go collect the money back na. nonsense & mumu Emefielele

No wonder she is facing financial challenges because she is hoping another individual will salvage her financial condition.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by uvie66: 8:47pm On Mar 12, 2023
Faber:


Good question. But before I answer your question, don't forget I said that's is for quick results . Now Look at it this way. When you are sick, you normally go to the drug store and buy drugs and you get some relief, temporary or permanent. Why did those drugs worked on you instead of prayers, the answer is simple, they are made from roots, herbs that have some powers inbuilt in them by God and nature to cure and prevent certain diseases, that's medicinal powers.
Now what the native doctors do is to get these herbs and roots and use them to solve problems like curing of diseases, good luck charm, etc. But prayers only work on God's intervention which you maybe sure of (faith comes here) but cannot tell when it will happen. Native doctors rely on herbs, roots, human and animal parts for solving problems. Nothing special.

But prayers alone and paying tithes is a long journey to solving problems and most cases not even sure those things will happen.
...and it is native doctors that will work, with all the native doctors in Africa it is still the poorest continent in the world.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Faber(m): 9:16pm On Mar 12, 2023
uvie66:
...and it is native doctors that will work, with all the native doctors in Africa it is still the poorest continent in the world.

Oga na Pastors and politicians impoverished the African continent. How many Native doctors have private jets, that they tax their members to maintain?

Na Islam and Christianity finished Africa.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by InvertedHammer: 5:41am On Mar 13, 2023
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Nothing wrong.

It is a normal business transaction. Someone got credited at the expense of another one's debit. It is her fault for choosing to be on the debit side. I will never blame pastors again.

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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by ZKOSOSO(m): 6:23am On Mar 13, 2023
bakobenjamin198:
"Fast growing," what has the "fast growing added to your life?" What has it contributed to humanity order than death, sorry, pains and agony? Ever since Islam was discovered, the world has never known peace. One thing you should know is that, if not for Islam, the world would have been a beautiful and peaceful place to live in.
You are blessed for knowing this fact. Islam na scam
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by incandescentena: 8:49am On Mar 13, 2023
uvie66:
No wonder she is facing financial challenges because she is hoping another individual will salvage her financial condition.
Na so o
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:51pm On Mar 13, 2023
Ablemed:


Are you saying Benny Hinn is a fake prophet?
No. I believe he's genuine but this is one area I thought he was walking in error so I was glad he was able to realize it at some point. It's better late than never.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:30pm On Mar 13, 2023
SmellingAnus:
you have a point but that is why we are working, going to school, learning skills etc to overcome the stronghold of poverty... Even Jesus said we will get our rewards here on earth too in 100 folds...
Jesus didn't say the bolded to everyone but only those who had forsaken everything to follow Him. It's important to note that these were the same people that suffered all things, including poverty, persecutions and even death for His name sake, yet their faith in God didn't waver one bit because Jesus had prepared them for such.

Do you think if they had the orientation of "overcoming the stronghold of poverty" they would have been able to overcome it all?

That's why it's important not to seek after these things as the gentiles do, but seek after the things of God and let it be up to God to take care of such things as Jesus taught us, otherwise we wouldn't be able to replicate their steadfastness when the storms come.

That should explain why the present day church is only a shadow of what it used to be in those days. The difference in orientation.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 5:43pm On Mar 13, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Jesus didn't say the bolded to everyone but only those who had forsaken everything to follow Him. It's important to note that these were the same people that suffered all things, including poverty, persecutions and even death for His name sake, yet their faith in God didn't waver one bit.

Do you think if they had the orientation of "overcoming the stronghold of poverty" they would have been overcome it all?

That's why it's important not to seek after these things as the gentiles do, but seek after the things of God and let it be up to God to take care of such things as Jesus taught us, otherwise we wouldn't be able to replicate their steadfastness when the storms come.

That should explain why the present day church is only a shadow of what it used to be in those days. The difference in orientation.
Yes and we have seeked after the Kingdom of God... Every other thing shall be added unto us... So nothing wrong if wealth is added on to us and even the religious leaders
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:04pm On Mar 13, 2023
SmellingAnus:
Yes and we have seeked after the Kingdom of God... Every other thing shall be added unto us... So nothing wrong if wealth is added on to us and even the religious leaders
Nothing also wrong even if wealth is not added on us as was the case with Moses, Elijah, John the Baptist, Peter, John and the rest of the early apostles, because God is still God regardless and knows what He's doing, so any gospel that preaches against such poverty is antichrist, because Christ teaches the life of a man doesn't consist in such things.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 6:06pm On Mar 13, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Nothing also wrong even if wealth is not added on us as was the case with Moses, Elijah, John the Baptist, Peter, John and the rest of the early apostles, because God is still God regardless and knows what He's doing, so any gospel that preaches against such poverty is antichrist, because Christ teaches the life of a man doesn't consist in such things.
so nothing wrong too if wealth is added, I am happy you agree with this...
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Zedoo(m): 6:08pm On Mar 13, 2023
Don’t ever date or marry anybody that takes theor pastor’s word as God’s word.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Kobojunkie: 9:19pm On Mar 13, 2023
Helgreenluv:
Her story reminds me of the conman who calls himself a Bishop. He has frog eyes and he is in Canaanland. If you know you know
They are, all of them, conmen. undecided
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Kobojunkie: 9:21pm On Mar 13, 2023
SmellingAnus:
â–  Prosperity gospel is very important in the Kingdom however , it depends on how it is been delivered and the motive behind it ... Many religious leaders have used it as a tool to scam innocent naive people... Like Benny Hinn will say, the gospel is free but the means of delivering the gospel is not free ... He spends millions of dollars almost on monthly basis to either be on air (TBN) or to organize a crusade ... That is why I say prosperity gospel is important... Even in Bible times, there are people that gave their lands, properties . I believe in Balanced message.
Benny Hinn who later swore that the prosperity gospel is nothing but a fraud? undecided

Ogbeni, deliver your own self from the confusion that is your mogs. undecided
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Kobojunkie: 9:24pm On Mar 13, 2023
SmellingAnus:
â– you make it look like all religious leaders depend on the givings of their members, is it that you don't know that some where even very wealthy before becoming priests etc? Or it's wealth itself now a sin? In all I am against the manipulation of people to scam them of their resources like some Religious leaders do
That is exactly what they do, depending on you for their sustenance as well as the running of their so-called ministry businesses, and that is part of the fraud Jesus Christ warned you lot against. undecided
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Kobojunkie: 9:24pm On Mar 13, 2023
bakobenjamin198:
I never said all, but about 90% of them are scammers and capitalise solely on the gullibility of their members for survival.
Its actually 100%. undecided
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Kobojunkie: 9:25pm On Mar 13, 2023
mylove4God:
It is just a pity that Churches are now business places. It is not just only Africa,, it is just that Africa own is much.
The church in rome, the godfather of them all, is also a business place. undecided

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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Kobojunkie: 9:27pm On Mar 13, 2023
lendahand:
how did Benny ditch the gospel bro?
All of your pastors and mogs never even preached the Gospel to begin with. Instead, they taught their doctrines and traditions, lies, hiding the fact behind their many mentions of God and Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by Helgreenluv(m): 6:21am On Mar 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
They are, all of them, conmen. undecided
Very true
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:54am On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
so nothing wrong too if wealth is added, I am happy you agree with this...
I already said if God decides to reward me with riches as that of Solomon or not, it's not my will but let His Will be done, which means I don't have any problem with that, as it's the mindset of Christ and that which He inculcated into His disciples.

God bless u.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 3:44pm On Mar 14, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
I already said if God decides to reward me with riches as that of Solomon or not, it's not my will but let His Will be done, which means I don't have any problem with that, as it's the mindset of Christ and that which He inculcated into His disciples.

God bless u.
Yeah I agree with you nothing wrong with the wealth you just described above

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