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The 25% Simple Analogy by Vado2: 2:07pm On Mar 24, 2023
For everyone who is asking whether F.C.T. will be significant and what sense it will make if someone wins all the states but fails to receives at least 25% in F.C.T.

Will you be admitted with your SSCE score if you receive all A's but fail to get at least a C6 in mathematics?

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Deprofessional(m): 2:20pm On Mar 24, 2023
Vado2:
For everyone who is asking whether F.C.T. will be significant and what sense it will make if someone wins all the states but fails to receives at least 25% in F.C.T.

Will you be admitted with your SSCE score if you receive all A's but fail to get at least a C6 in mathematics?

Even if you want to study Yoruba Language, you need a credit in Mathematics.

You wonder what the nexus between Yoruba language and Mathematics is.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by agemmy113(m): 2:27pm On Mar 24, 2023
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by muykem: 2:33pm On Mar 24, 2023
Vado2:
For everyone who is asking whether F.C.T. will be significant and what sense it will make if someone wins all the states but fails to receives at least 25% in F.C.T.

Will you be admitted with your SSCE score if you receive all A's but fail to get at least a C6 in mathematics?
Your analogy is unreasonable and myopic. English and Mathematics have special status in our education system. It was copied from our colonial master education system.
Is Abuja residence have special status in our constitution and where did we copied it from?

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by IVORY2009(m): 2:37pm On Mar 24, 2023
muykem:
Your analogy is unreasonable and myopic. English and Mathematics have special status in our education system. It was copied from our colonial master education system.
Is Abuja residence have special status in our constitution and where did we copied it from?

Likewise this 25% copied from the America’s system

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by muykem: 2:43pm On Mar 24, 2023
IVORY2009:


Likewise this 25% copied from the America’s system
Are you for real? Where did you see that?

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by chivic(m): 3:00pm On Mar 24, 2023
muykem:
Your analogy is unreasonable and myopic. English and Mathematics have special status in our education system. It was copied from our colonial master education system.
Is Abuja residence have special status in our constitution and where did we copied it from?

Well it does have the special status off being the Federal Capital Territory.I don't like that rule at all.I want to belief that after the case it will be reviewed.The law is not without Lacuna that's why it's subject to review .

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by ubest1(m): 3:08pm On Mar 24, 2023
Politically FCT is supreme to other states in Nigeria, is not about the people living but political status giving to the land as seat of power.

agemmy113:
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Goodmarlian: 3:09pm On Mar 24, 2023
After winning by popular votes in America you must also win the electoral college,fct is Nigerias electoral college urchins wan shift goal post for Emilokan God forbid!
this is a new Nigeria you can only try that before not now.the election will be annuled and any idiot that cause violence after that will be dealth with by the craze filled citizens.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Zico5(m): 3:22pm On Mar 24, 2023
Vado2:
For everyone who is asking whether F.C.T. will be significant and what sense it will make if someone wins all the states but fails to receives at least 25% in F.C.T.

Will you be admitted with your SSCE score if you receive all A's but fail to get at least a C6 in mathematics?
You guys called Obidients are not even intelligent. I thought u want to argue about something significant but I'm disappointed to hear this nonsense from a grown up man. The law will be clear to u soon

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by muykem: 3:24pm On Mar 24, 2023
chivic:


Well it does have the special status off being the Federal Capital Territory.I don't like that rule at all.I want to belief that after the case it will be reviewed.The law is not without Lacuna that's why it's subject to review .
There's no such law in the first instance. 2/3 of 36 states and the F.C.T means F.C.T should not be excluded while calculating spread I.e 2/3 of 36states + F.C.T.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by surgical: 3:33pm On Mar 24, 2023
chivic:


Well it does have the special status off being the Federal Capital Territory.I don't like that rule at all.I want to belief that after the case it will be reviewed.The law is not without Lacuna that's why it's subject to review .
The law was reviewed because of the 12 2/3 of 19 fiasco between chief obafemi awolowo and alhaji sheu Shagari where the federal capital was interpreted to be a state in the calculations because it was not specified how it should be treated but now it has been specified as stand alone as far as presidential election is concerned
Adiminstatvely it should be accorded the status of a state, every thing has been specified by the constitution you can't deviate from prescriptions of the constitution

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by IgOga(m): 3:35pm On Mar 24, 2023
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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Vado2: 3:44pm On Mar 24, 2023
agemmy113:
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks

Is English or mathematics any different from other subjects, and what makes them special?

Simply put, Abuja is the seat of power.
It is believed that if you can’t pass English that was used to ask the questions, how did you read and pass the exam?? How about Mathematics??

Why is it compulsory for someone that wants to study Yoruba would need to pass English and Mathematics??

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Vado2: 3:45pm On Mar 24, 2023
Zico5:

You guys called Obidients are not even intelligent. I thought u want to argue about something significant but I'm disappointed to hear this nonsense from a grown up man. The law will be clear to u soon

I had to break it down to your level, because I realized that most urchins are uneducated.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by helinues: 3:50pm On Mar 24, 2023
Wrong.

25% in 24 states and Abuja.

Because Abuja is not a state, it would have been listed as part of the states,so getting 25% in Abuja is additional.You can get your 25% in other 24 states without Abuja.

Where in the world are they using state capital winning to determine the winner

What's special about Abuja that 25% is a must there?

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by famology(m): 4:03pm On Mar 24, 2023
Goodmarlian:
After winning by popular votes in America you must also win the electoral college,fct is Nigerias electoral college urchins wan shift goal post for Emilokan God forbid!
this is a new Nigeria you can only try that before not now.the election will be annuled and any idiot that cause violence after that will be dealth with by the craze filled citizens.


Point out any mention of electoral college in the entire Nigeria constitution. Any mention of it at all. Stop being foolish because you hate someone. Is Nigeria ruled by American constitution? Mugu

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by derealj(m): 4:10pm On Mar 24, 2023
muykem:
There's no such law in the first instance. 2/3 of 36 states and the F.C.T means F.C.T should not be excluded while calculating spread I.e 2/3 of 36states + F.C.T.

You are changing the law o.
What the law said is 2/3 of the votes cast in 24 states and the FCT not 2/3 of the 36 states and the FCT. That's where the problem arises.

Nigeria is never referred to as 24 states and FCT but 36 states and the FCT

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Omowale2023(m): 4:22pm On Mar 24, 2023
muykem:
Your analogy is unreasonable and myopic. English and Mathematics have special status in our education system. It was copied from our colonial master education system.
Is Abuja residence have special status in our constitution and where did we copied it from?
In waec; you must have 5 credits including maths and English.
But if they wrote: You must have credits in 5 subjects and one Nigerian language. Then the interpretation has changed. The word "AND" means additional.
They should have amended the statement by saying: "25% in 2/3 of 36 states including Abuja, not 'AND' FCT, Abuja.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Nice2023(m): 4:59pm On Mar 24, 2023
muykem:
Your analogy is unreasonable and myopic. English and Mathematics have special status in our education system. It was copied from our colonial master education system.
Is Abuja residence have special status in our constitution and where did we copied it from?



Whenever u want to air ur opinion,don't rubbish others because I am sure u don't know that this matter of 25% in Abuja is just going to serve as a reference as the case has been settled in 2008 by the same supreme Court,where it was made compulsory at that time that a candidate must win Abuja before he or she u can be declared.

Now,what is myopic about his write up? u can go and check the supreme Court judgement on this same matter. Buhari vs Yar'adua in 2008.

U don't know why APC especially Tinubu and Co aren't happy with Obi and his case against them. If Tinubu escapes this,he can't escape the drug case at all.

Let us leave the matter as it is.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by muykem: 5:03pm On Mar 24, 2023
Omowale2023:

In waec; you must have 5 credits including maths and English.
But if they wrote: You must have credits in 5 subjects and one Nigerian language. Then the interpretation has changed. The word "AND" means additional.
They should have amended the statement by saying: "25% in 2/3 of 36 states including Abuja, not 'AND' FCT, Abuja.
intepret this word "SHARE 60B NAIRA TO 36 STATES AND THE FCT."

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by muykem: 5:13pm On Mar 24, 2023
Nice2023:




Whenever u want to air ur opinion,don't rubbish others because I am sure u don't know that this matter of 25% in Abuja is just going to serve as a reference as the case has been settled in 2008 by the same supreme Court,where it was made compulsory at that time that a candidate must win Abuja before he or she u can be declared.

Now,what is myopic about his write up? u can go and check the supreme Court judgement on this same matter. Buhari vs Yar'adua in 2008.

U don't know why APC especially Tinubu and Co are happy with Obi and his case against them. If Tinubu escapes this,he can't escape the drug case at all.

Let us leave the matter as it is.



Bring up the case please? There was never such.
Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Zico5(m): 5:39pm On Mar 24, 2023
Vado2:


I had to break it down to your level, because I realized that most urchins are uneducated.
You want to break down 25% of Abuja to me. Is Abuja significant in election of president? Abuja is just like ordinary state and anyone winning there is just like addition to his votes. So a governor must have 25% in state capital before he can be declared elected. Think o

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Vado2: 8:33pm On Mar 24, 2023
Zico5:

You want to break down 25% of Abuja to me. Is Abuja significant in election of president? Abuja is just like ordinary state and anyone winning there is just like addition to his votes. So a governor must have 25% in state capital before he can be declared elected. Think o

That’s why I had to break it down to your level. Abuja is the Federal capital territory. The FCT is not like an ordinary state. Please educate yourself

The FCT is not a state, it does not have a state legislature, and its residents do not elect state-level representatives.

The FCT is governed by a minister appointed by the president. According to straightforward reasoning, the minister is appointed by proxy, and the President serves as the de facto governor of the FCT. How are you able to rule over those who didn't choose you?

Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Vado2: 8:46pm On Mar 24, 2023
muykem:
Bring up the case please? There was never such.

Educate yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43_mR6Z9-3w
Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by DMerciful(m): 9:05pm On Mar 24, 2023
The FCT has not state governor rather the president is the governor but usually appoints FCT minister to act on his behalf. If the president does not have 25% in Abuja, it means he is very unpopular to be imposed on them. Abuja is a compulsory question
agemmy113:
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by TechGallery: 9:08pm On Mar 24, 2023
What then happens if a candidate wins all the 36 States but can't get 25% from FCT? A rerun? How? So the whole country will start election all over again in all the 36 States because of the failure of getting 25% from FCT? The law must be insane to have such interpretation. If rerun is declared from court, that means a popular candidate from FCT can contest tomorrow for the position of president just to cause stalemate in the election. As long as he can win 80% votes from Abuja, it's certain the first election will be cancelled and rerun declared every time such case repeats itself in the future. There is no logic in that.

Comparing this to WAEC exam instruction also cannot work. It is stated clearly by the examination and admission bodies that English and Mathematics are more important subjects to all students unlike this election case. There is no where in Nigeria Constitution that states FCT is more important than other states of the federation. No amendment attaches priority or preference to FCT.

I am very sure this point cannot fly in court. It is just unnecessary political "misyarn" from the concerned parties.

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by mrvitalis(m): 9:10pm On Mar 24, 2023
agemmy113:
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks
The President would also appoint minister for FCT so why can't he get 25% approval from people he would directly administer over

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by BRIMBRAM: 9:14pm On Mar 24, 2023
Goodmarlian:
After winning by popular votes in America you must also win the electoral college,fct is Nigerias electoral college urchins wan shift goal post for Emilokan God forbid!
this is a new Nigeria you can only try that before not now.the election will be annuled and any idiot that cause violence after that will be dealth with by the craze filled citizens.

We will all be here on May 29 celebrating Tinubu's mandate by the Grace of God. Buhari already warned that he won't allow 'June 12' to repeat itself.

You guys should continue chasing after the wind. grin

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Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by Vado2: 9:19pm On Mar 24, 2023
TechGallery:
What then happens if a candidate wins all the 36 States but can't get 25% from FCT? A rerun? How? So the whole country will start election all over again in all the 36 States because of the failure of getting 25% from FCT? The law must be insane to have such interpretation. If rerun is declared from court, that means a popular candidate from FCT can contest tomorrow for the position of president just to cause stalemate in the election. As long as he can win 80% votes from Abuja, it's certain the first election will be cancelled and rerun declared every time such case repeats itself in the future. There is no logic in that.

Comparing this to WAEC exam instruction also cannot work. It is stated clearly by the examination and admission bodies that English and Mathematics are more important subjects to all students unlike this election case. There is no where in Nigeria Constitution that states FCT is more important than other states of the federation. No amendment attaches priority or preference to FCT.

I am very sure this point cannot fly in court. It is just unnecessary political "misyarn" from the concerned parties.

The Constitution makes it quite explicit that you need to receive 25% in 2/3rd number of states AND the Federal Capital Territory, which emphasizes the significance.

The President chooses a minister-level administrator because He, the president doubles as the de facto governor of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT).

In an SSCE result, the FCT is just as unique as English or mathematics. It doesn't matter how many A’s you obtain; if you receive an F9 in English or Mathematics, you must retake the full examination; the same applies here.
Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by BRIMBRAM: 9:19pm On Mar 24, 2023
TechGallery:
What then happens if a candidate wins all the 36 States but can't get 25% from FCT? A rerun? How? So the whole country will start election all over again in all the 36 States because of the failure of getting 25% from FCT? The law must be insane to have such interpretation. If rerun is declared from court, that means a popular candidate from FCT can contest tomorrow for the position of president just to cause stalemate in the election. As long as he can win 80% votes from Abuja, it's certain the first election will be cancelled and rerun declared every time such case repeats itself in the future. There is no logic in that.

Comparing this to WAEC exam instruction also cannot work. It is stated clearly by the examination and admission bodies that English and Mathematics are more important subjects to all students unlike this election case. There is no where in Nigeria Constitution that states FCT is more important than other states of the federation. No amendment attaches priority or preference to FCT.

I am very sure this point cannot fly in court. It is just unnecessary political "misyarn" from the concerned parties.

That analogy using the Waec is the best their brain can offer which is a faulty analogy with respect to when it comes to the court of law.
Re: The 25% Simple Analogy by AntiTerrorist: 9:20pm On Mar 24, 2023
agemmy113:
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks
Sorry to answer your questions with question.

Look at this analogy:

In a secondary school, condition for promotion to the next class is for a Student to have at least 25% in 2/3 of all his subjects and English. If he passes all his subjects but fails English, would he be promoted.

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