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Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Exmilitant(m): 9:06am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
Abacha had his own bad side but I can tell you he is better than 80% of our present day national politicians, he had strict principles in some aspect and he even united Nigeria better than what we have today.....
Now i believe you are a kid talking based on hear-say.

If you had lived through the '90s you wouldn't be saying this.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:08am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
You lots are shameless. So Abacha is now your darling?

Name a figure from your region that worked with Abacha?

the very idea of glorifying a tyrant!!
Peter Obi worked for Abacha as Tin can island port boss.
These ones here are saying he is a saint.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 9:09am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Like I said there's nothing to prove or disprove than to say this is all in your imagination.
Let us try this, you are a thief and i know you are a thief because my mind tells me so. Oya prove to me that you are not a thief.
I will tell you to show me an item I stole from you as evidence and if you can't then you are lying....
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:12am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
You lots are shameless. So Abacha is now your darling?

Name a figure from your region that worked with Abacha?

the very idea of glorifying a tyrant!!
Toh that doesn't change the fact that his detractors were neferious individuals.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:12am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
You don't know the man. cool
Hmm tell me more about the man
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 9:13am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
Now i believe you are a kid talking based on hear-say.

If you had lived through the '90s you wouldn't be saying this.
I lived a street away from Marwa, the deputy to Marwa lived in the same street with my family, his children were my friends and church members, I was at home when the bomb that targeted Marwa blew in the next street, my friends father died in the second bomb, Oladipo Diya lived about 4 streets away from my street, dude you are not talking to a kid here....
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:14am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
I will tell you to show me an item I stole from you as evidence and if you can't then you are lying....
Ok fair enough. Now show me evidence that Tinubu was fighting against Abacha because of drugs. I want solid evidence and not hearsay.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:15am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
I lived a street away from Marwa, the deputy to Marwa lived in the same street with my family, his children were my friends and church members, I was at home when the bomb that targeted Marwa blew in the next street, my friends father died in the second bomb, Oladipo Diya lived about 4 streets away from my street, dude you are not talking to a kid here....
They think everyone they see online is a rable rouser.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Exmilitant(m): 9:15am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Peter Obi worked for Abacha as Tin can island port boss.
These ones here are saying he is a saint.
I wanted the op to mention a name.

Peter Obi is not saint!
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:18am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
I wanted the op to mention a name.

Peter Obi is not saint!
He would never give you an answer. Don't mind all these people that can't think for themselves and see that their messiah is even below the average Nigerian politician.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 9:19am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Ok fair enough. Now show me evidence that Tinubu was fighting against Abacha because of drugs. I want solid evidence and not hearsay.
Tinubu case in the U.S was around the same time Abacha came to power and Abacha fought drug dealers in Nigeria to a stand still at some point, drug dealers were not feeling safe in Nigeria.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Exmilitant(m): 9:19am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
I lived a street away from Marwa, the deputy to Marwa lived in the same street with my family, his children were my friends and church members, I was at home when the bomb that targeted Marwa blew in the next street, my friends father died in the second bomb, Oladipo Diya lived about 4 streets away from my street, dude you are not talking to a kid here....
Then you should know better than grossly emmiting untruth.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:21am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Ok fair enough. Now show me evidence that Tinubu was fighting against Abacha because of drugs. I want solid evidence and not hearsay.
Abacha had zero tolerance for drug peddling, true or false?

Tinubu was a known drug peddler even before abacha regime, true or false?

IBB was a know drug man , true or false?

Abiola was a close ally of IBB, true or false?

Experts say Abiola was into drug business, true or false?

Answer these question before i proceed further with my evidence.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Exmilitant(m): 9:27am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
He would never give you an answer. Don't mind all these people that can't think for themselves and see that their messiah is even below the average Nigerian politician.
I wonder where all this bitterness on Tinubu emanated from.

the man is the most down to earth, generous and approachable person i have ever encountered.

in our days in the creeks, he did more for us than the OBJs government.

a man who has raised hundreds of men from all walks of life to unimaginable heights!

Where did this hatred comes from? If for anything, Tinubu's emergence should be applauded.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:29am On Apr 05, 2023
Birdbyrde440:
Abacha had zero tolerance for drug peddling, true or false?

Tinubu was a known drug peddler even before abacha regime, true or false?

IBB was a know drug man , true or false?

Abiola was a close ally of IBB, true or false?

Experts say Abiola was into drug business, true or false?

Answer these question before i proceed further with my evidence.
I quoted the wrong person
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:30am On Apr 05, 2023
Birdbyrde440:
Abacha had zero tolerance for drug peddling, true or false?

Tinubu was a known drug peddler even before abacha regime, true or false?

IBB was a know drug man , true or false?

Abiola was a close ally of IBB, true or false?

Experts say Abiola was into drug business, true or false?

Answer these question before i proceed further with my evidence.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:30am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
Tinubu case in the U.S was around the same time Abacha came to power and Abacha fought drug dealers in Nigeria to a stand still at some point, drug dealers were not feeling safe in Nigeria.
Oga i said proof and not all thess true or false questions. Which one of them have been convicted in court for us to say without any iota of doubt that they did all these you accused them of doing.
Just like i accused you of being a thief and you said i should bring what you stole, now i asked you for evidence you are giving me shalaye.
Have you ever been accused of what you did not do? I pray it never happens to you.
Since you don't have any evidence, i rest my case and take my leave.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:30am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
I wonder where all this bitterness on Tinubu emanated from.

the man is the most down to earth, generous and approachable person i have ever encountered.

in our days in the creeks, he did more for us than the OBJs government.

a man who has raised hundreds of men from all walks of life to unimaginable heights!

Where did this hatred comes from? If for anything, Tinubu's emergence should be applauded.
Imagine OSAMA BIN LADEN becoming president of saudi arabia. No country will deal with a known criminal especially a convicted drug dealer and/or an internationally known terrorist.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:35am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Oga i said proof and not all thess true or false questions. Which one of them have been convicted in court for us to say without any iota of doubt that they did all these you accused them of doing.
Just like i accused you of being a thief and you said i should bring what you stole, now i asked you for evidence you are giving me shalaye.
Have you ever been accused of what you did not do? I pray it never happens to you.
Since you don't have any evidence, i rest my case and take my leave.
The President-elect of the 2023 was convicted in by a U.S court.

Only a hypocrite will champion democratic ideals during the military regime and scuttle a democratic elections in 2023.

Such a person is a pretender, has hidden agenda.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 9:36am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
I wonder where all this bitterness on Tinubu emanated from.

the man is the most down to earth, generous and approachable person i have ever encountered.

in our days in the creeks, he did more for us than the OBJs government.

a man who has raised hundreds of men from all walks of life to unimaginable heights!

Where did this hatred comes from? If for anything, Tinubu's emergence should be applauded.
They don't hate Tinubu personally but because their messiah is being antagonistic then they must follow suit. They have nothing on Tinubu but smear campaign from political opponents.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:36am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Oga i said proof and not all thess true or false questions. Which one of them have been convicted in court for us to say without any iota of doubt that they did all these you accused them of doing.
Just like i accused you of being a thief and you said i should bring what you stole, now i asked you for evidence you are giving me shalaye.
Have you ever been accused of what you did not do? I pray it never happens to you.
Since you don't have any evidence, i rest my case and take my leave.
Wasn't he convicted and forfeited proceeds of his drug dealing to the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT?
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 9:41am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
Then you should know better than grossly emmiting untruth.
That is why I am telling you things away from what the media tries to portray, Abacha was not a saint but I can tell you he had his good sides and he was way better than most politicians we have at the national level today.

If you are talking of tyranny, are most of these politicians not tyrants, look at Wike, Tinubu, Chimaroke, Uzodinma, Yahaya Bello and so on even in a democratic settings are doing all these.

Just imagine if they had half the power Abacha had to do and undo, don't you think Abacha's tyranny will be a child's play, and mind you most of Abacha's tyranny was not done to the masses, only people he felt were a threat to his government, drug dealers because of illicit funds and fraudsters, Abacha fought fraudsters to a stand still, even wonder banks back then.

Nigeria was way better in so many aspects and there was nothing like militants or boko haram or kidnappers and so on.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Exmilitant(m): 9:43am On Apr 05, 2023
Birdbyrde440:
Imagine OSAMA BIN LADEN becoming president of saudi arabia. No country will deal with a known criminal especially a convicted drug dealer and/or an internationally known terrorist.
Who is without sin should cast the stone.

Point at any sitting head of state that's crime free.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Exmilitant(m): 9:48am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
That is why I am telling you things away from what the media tries to portray, Abacha was not a saint but I can tell you he had his good sides and he was way better than most politicians we have at the national level today.

If you are talking of tyranny, are most of these politicians not tyrants, look at Wike, Tinubu, Chimaroke, Uzodinma, Yahaya Bello and so on even in a democratic settings are doing all these.

Just imagine if they had half the power Abacha had to do and undo, don't you think Abacha's tyranny will be a child's play, and mind you most of Abacha's tyranny was not done to the masses, only people he felt were a threat to his government, drug dealers because of illicit funds and fraudsters, Abacha fought fraudsters to a stand still, even wonder banks back then.

Nigeria was way better in so many aspects and there was nothing like militants or boko haram or kidnappers and so on.
LOLs, kiddo now run off.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Mrtaye: 9:52am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Peter Obi worked for Abacha as Tin can island port boss.
These ones here are saying he is a saint.
So is Tin Can in Aso Rock or an office under Abacha..so people that were commissioners, permanent secretaries, civil servants at that time worked for Abacha....make una dey think well before throwing una lamba oooo cos no be everybody be zombie ooo
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 9:52am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
LOLs, kiddo now run off.
Nothing like kiddo here, I'm just telling you my personal experience here away from what the media tries to portray...

This democracy is yet to pay Nigerians because of evil people who lied to Nigerians that they were fighting for democracy during the military regime.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 9:54am On Apr 05, 2023
Exmilitant:
Who is without sin should cast the stone.

Point at any sitting head of state that's crime free.
Toh i just de give you reason.

Nobody is without sin.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 10:01am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Oga i said proof and not all thess true or false questions. Which one of them have been convicted in court for us to say without any iota of doubt that they did all these you accused them of doing.
Just like i accused you of being a thief and you said i should bring what you stole, now i asked you for evidence you are giving me shalaye.
Have you ever been accused of what you did not do? I pray it never happens to you.
Since you don't have any evidence, i rest my case and take my leave.
Like I said earlier, Abacha fought drug dealers in Nigeria, Abacha would have arrested Tinubu if he was aware of his drug case in the U.S, look at the case file below and see the year and timeline of when Tinubu was been investigated and the court forfeiture, Abacha was against people using drug money to fight his government, Tinubu may have been a goner by now.

Tinubu had to run to avoid Abacha locking him up, like I said earlier, If a whole Shonekan was not locked, why Tinubu? were there not other politicians who remained in Nigeria and Abacha never went after them.

That is his case file below, please read it from beginning to the end before coming back to argue.

https://gazettengr.com/wp-content/uploads/US-District-Court-Northern-District.pdf
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by WantsandMore: 10:03am On Apr 05, 2023
Birdbyrde440:
First you must debunk and rebuke the lies you heard about Late Gen. Sani Abacha (4star), those lies were pedelled and propagated by people like the Drug peddling president-elect. Why?

Because Abacha was not involved and wouldn't allow anything like drug smuggling and other criminalities. MKO Abiola's imprisonment and death was not IBB or Abacha's fault but the making of those who SERVED HIM TEA.
Contrary to popular belief, IBB and Abiola were BEST OF FRIENDS who visited each other frequently. Abiola was romancing with the Millitary regimes otherwise how come he was a millionaire in a socialist nation like Nigeria?
According to one Gary K Busch, a professor of political science, political intelligence consultant to several governments, Africa expert and journalist, MKO Abiola had a history of drug smuggling. It is widely believed that IBB has a history with drugs too.

Why handing over on May 29 is akin to handing over to Military?
First you must understand that Jagaban borgu lol was not fighting the Abacha regime because he loved democracy but because his source of income was sabotaged, why didn't they fight other regimes? Why didnt they fight IBB?
He was a member of NADECO, the same group that has condemned his actions recently and threatened to expel him.

He was fighting for the propagation of democracy, but he sabotaged the democratic process in 2023.

He was fighting for democracy but doesn't believe in people's choice.

You see this man and many of the people around him are liars and schemers. They live a life of deep cover, double lives.

Imagine his two daughters from his last marriage have gone astray. A muslim with a TS daughter. Double lives, deep cover!
The Propaganda never stops, the Lp,the apc & the pdp keeps peddling Propaganda even after election. Omo
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Sangoamadioha1: 10:10am On Apr 05, 2023
Brendaniel:
Like I said earlier, Abacha fought drug dealers in Nigeria, Abacha would have arrested Tinubu if he was aware of his drug case in the U.S, look at the case file below and see the year and timeline of when Tinubu was been investigated and the court forfeiture, Abacha was against people using drug money to fight his government, Tinubu may have been a goner by now.

Tinubu had to run to avoid Abacha locking him up, like I said earlier, If a whole Shonekan was not locked, why Tinubu? were there not other politicians who remained in Nigeria and Abacha never went after them.

That is his case file below, please read it from beginning to the end before coming back to argue.

https://gazettengr.com/wp-content/uploads/US-District-Court-Northern-District.pdf
Do you know some Nigerians also accused Abacha of being involved in drugs huh This was the narrative they said led to Babangida and Abacha overthrowing Buhari in the 80s.
This issue of tagging people drug dealers did not start today. You no get point.

Abraham Adesanya was not hounded by Abacha. Ken saro wiwa nkor. Kudirat Abiola nkor. Bagudu Kalto nkor. All these and more were hounded by Abacha.
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Birdbyrde440(op): 10:12am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Do you know some Nigerians also accused Abacha of being involved in drugs huh This was the narrative they said led to Babangida and Abacha overthrowing Buhari in the 80s.
This issue of tagging people drug dealers did not start today. You no get point.
Show me one headline news that associates Abacha with drug dealing
Re: Why Handing Over On May 29 Is Akin To Military Take-over by Brendaniel: 10:17am On Apr 05, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Do you know some Nigerians also accused Abacha of being involved in drugs huh This was the narrative they said led to Babangida and Abacha overthrowing Buhari in the 80s.
This issue of tagging people drug dealers did not start today. You no get point.

Abraham Adesanya was not hounded by Abacha. Ken saro wiwa nkor. Kudirat Abiola nkor. Bagudu Kalto nkor. All these and more were hounded by Abacha.
This is not about someone said, this is fact, you were the one who told me to provide evidence and I have done that, if you will accuse Abacha of drugs, please provide evidence like I have done.

If you have not read the document, please do so we don't argue on he said she said, they said.
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