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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Benwallt(m): 8:12pm On Apr 09, 2023
Yugoslavia247:
I read Soyinka book. He spoke more grammar than communicate.

Achebe connects with you. You hardly forget what you read.
You don't know that book pass book Abi.

You can compare children literature to adult literature.

The diction, mood, style, plot would be different.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by oskopy: 8:25pm On Apr 09, 2023
Use your brain and don't cause ethnic problem among our Yoruba brothers. Inwekwara Uche sef, leave Soyinka and face what is on ground please.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Raskimonojendor: 8:30pm On Apr 09, 2023
SheikhMuniru:
Ogboju ode ninu igbo irumole
The book was written in extremely complex yoruba. Prof translated the book to English.. The movie igodo was a loose adaptation of the book.
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Ricci22: 8:32pm On Apr 09, 2023
I found it necessary to comment on this topic,
With all due respect Prof. Soyinka is good but Achebe is the king of literature popularly known in Africa and across the glob.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Raskimonojendor: 8:37pm On Apr 09, 2023
Ricci22:
I found it necessary to comment on this topic,
With all due respect Prof. Soyinka is good but Achebe is the king of literature popularly known in Africa and across the glob.
Achebe's is for simple minds e.g. His book Chike and the River: I must have read that book in primary 3 or 4. It was in that book that my innocent mind realised that Ibo see Lagos as next to London according to Achebe himself in the book.

Summary:
Achebe writes prose for secondary school students and primary school pupils.

Soyinka writes theater, prose, drama, poetry, essay, film, translation e.t.c Like William Shakespeare, he is an embodiment of literature.
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Lamasta(m): 8:44pm On Apr 09, 2023
What politics cannot cause in Nigeria I've not seen ithuh
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Obaaderemi2: 8:44pm On Apr 09, 2023
Nwaetche:
I am surprised that you do not know the politics that go with the selection and nomination process with the Nobel committee.

Achebe's things Fall Apart is one of the most popular books in the world having been translated in several languages and used by many educational boards in teaching curricullum. I was even surprised that the book is being used far away Iceland.

Tell us Soyinka's book that is that popular.

His Abiku poem published in 1967 and forced on Nigerians students at some point was a disaster even after he copied the name from an earlier successful work of similar name published in 1965 by the great Ijaw poet J. P. Clark-Bekederemo. He literally copied the topic from great JP Clark and made a mess of it with unnecessary mouth twisting grammar.




Tell us Soyinka's book
Nobel and political machinations? Is that the lie and excuse Achebe put forward for not winning it? The same way you blame Inec many years later for obi losing to another Yoruba man. grin

For your information the Nobel prizes are funded by the swedish from the estates of Alfred Nobel. It's not controlled by America or Britain. Nobody influenced Soyinka's winning the prize, he is just better than Achebe as far as literature in it's entirety is concerned. That's not to say Achebe was not great in his own rights. I read his There Was A Country and I was disappointed by his envy and anger even in old age. He didn't hide his jealousy, competitiveness against and hatred for yorubas. The same thing ibos are still displaying today. Kilode gan?

Go and read Death and The King's Horseman by Soyinka. That's a great play that has been presented worldwide. You need to see the ingenuity he employed in translating Yoruba culture and proverbs for the wider global audience. Stop comparing such intellectual prowess to basic books like chike and the river and things fall apart.
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by DeKing234: 8:47pm On Apr 09, 2023
Chimamanda the offshoot of late prof. Chinueachebe. The Igbo intelligence is really impacting lives home and abroad.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by blabulu2000: 8:51pm On Apr 09, 2023
Yugoslavia247:
Things fall apart
Arrow of God
There was a country
No longer at ease
A man of the people
Anthill of the savannah
Google is your friend...

Do you think.nobel.laureate achievement is like your Nnewi certificate.....?/ do your Chinua Achebe have one?

Till.date...wole soyinka is still.the only person in the entire Africa that bag this award....so ...no be your papa mate....
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by bigpriik: 8:52pm On Apr 09, 2023
hybrid77:
All these not necessary abeg..

Im obidient but if the corrupt court denies Obi his mandate, na to pray for Tilumbu..for the sake of our country..
fake obidient.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Blankstare(m): 9:01pm On Apr 09, 2023
blabulu2000:
Google is your friend...

Do you think.nobel.laureate achievement is like your Nnewi certificate.....?/ do your Chinua Achebe have one?

Till.date...wole soyinka is still.the only person in the entire Africa that bag this award....so ...no be your papa mate....
Mahfouz naguib
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Nwaetche(m): 9:03pm On Apr 09, 2023
AChebe was never Wole Soyinkas mate in the literary world. He writes in simple and understandable grammar that keeps the reader encaptivated until you reach the last page. Even his collection of poems is the same.

Translating written old Yoruba forklore does not connote originality and bamboozing readers with unnecessary grammar depicts elements of emptiness.

Achebe remained a colosus compared with Soyinka in the literary world.



Obaaderemi2:
Nobel and political machinations? Is that the lie and excuse Achebe put forward for not winning it? The same way you blame Inec many years later for obi losing to another Yoruba man. grin

For your information the Nobel prizes are funded by the swedish from the estates of Alfred Nobel. It's not controlled by America or Britain. Nobody influenced Soyinka's winning the prize, he is just better than Achebe as far as literature in it's entirety is concerned. That's not to say Achebe was not great in his own rights. I read his There Was A Country and I was disappointed by his envy and anger even in old age. He didn't hide his jealousy, competitiveness against and hatred for yorubas. The same thing ibos are still displaying today. Kilode gan?

Go and read Death and The King's Horseman by Soyinka. That's a great play that has been presented worldwide. You need to see the ingenuity he employed in translating Yoruba culture and proverbs for the wider global audience. Stop comparing such intellectual prowess to basic books like chike and the river and things fall apart.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Yugoslavia247(op): 9:07pm On Apr 09, 2023
blabulu2000:
Google is your friend...

Do you think.nobel.laureate achievement is like your Nnewi certificate.....?/ do your Chinua Achebe have one?

Till.date...wole soyinka is still.the only person in the entire Africa that bag this award....so ...no be your papa mate....
😂.

After that who has he impacted. He has no intellectual offspring.

Achebe had chimammanda Adichie.

Tell me something
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Yugoslavia247(op): 9:08pm On Apr 09, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
That's because most of Achebe'ss book were secondary and primary school school level books, while Soyinka are more advanced like (university level/Phd)
Olodo

Things fall apart was read in primary school.

Same book was a subject of international discourse
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by PulaPower: 9:13pm On Apr 09, 2023
MikeofAfrica:
The fact that people like you chooses to tell a lie a thousand times to suit your narratives does not make it the truth.

Achebe won the Commonwealth Poetry award in 1972 for his poetry book - Soul Brothers. He was named the best poet in English speaking countries.

His other poetry works include
1. Christmas in Biafra ( 1973)
2. Another Africa ( 1997)
3. Collected Poems ( 2002)

Achebe also wrote Essays and Research Books. One of them is " There was a Country".

Shakespeare is a playwright like Soyinka but Shakespeare has more than three masterclass books that are known all over the world. Soyinka does not have a single masterclass.

The worst play written by Shakespeare is better than the best play( The trial of Brother Jero) written by Soyinka. The worst novel written by Achebe is better than the best novel written by Soyinka.

Achebe was suppose to win the Nobel Prize in 1986 but the Western nations wanted to spite on him for exposing the actrocities they committed in Africa through his books.

Hence they gave the award to Soyinka without being able to point out any of his books that earned him the award.

Obasanjo had a similar experience. He was meant to be the Secretary General of the United Nations in the early 90s but the Western nations that denied Achebe the Nobel Prize stood against Obasanjo because he spoke against the actrocities of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

Hence just as Achebe lost the Nobel prize to Soyinka for speaking for Africa, Obasanjo lost the UN secretary to an Egyptian for speaking for Africa.
Jangbajantis all cuz you wanna justify failure..

Soyinka is not Achebe’s mate in everything..

For you to win a Nobel prize, you are expected to come up with something new in terms of content or form or both. And that is how you win the Nobel Prize in Literature! It's awarded to someone who has done outstanding work in an idealistic direction that adds the greatest benefit to humankind! This is who WS is and these are the categories of people Soyinka belongs to. Only few people can be compared with Wole Soyinka. Very very few..

It’s an insult to compare Achebe of just a write story to sell kind of person. Soyinka goes beyond that! Soyinka is a branch of literature while Achebe is just a brilliant literature students! That’s how far differ they’re! Achebe knows this himself! The pained little diva, Shimamada Ashidi knows this!
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by jagorinho: 9:22pm On Apr 09, 2023
Yugoslavia247:
Oga go and sit down.

Do you know how many writers reject nobel prize.

You think they care.
Another obidot!!! Did Achebe reject it?
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by blabulu2000: 9:28pm On Apr 09, 2023
Yugoslavia247:
😂.

After that who has he impacted. He has no intellectual offspring.

Achebe had chimammanda Adichie.

Tell me something
As if Achebe made Adichie....see tribalism in display.....Adichie came to.limelight by different role model put.toghter....invluding wole soyinks and Achebe...she prefer to.identify with achebe because of tribe similarity...or is achebe style of writing the same as Adichie? No!


Wole Soyinka's global achievement still.speaks for him.in different conference in and out of the country.....


No be play...
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by SenatePresdo(m): 9:31pm On Apr 09, 2023
hybrid77:
All these not necessary abeg..

Im obidient but if the corrupt court denies Obi his mandate, na to pray for Tilumbu..for the sake of our country..
This has nothing to do with Tinubu and obidients.

I can't see where OP mentioned about politics.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by nonhuman(m): 9:34pm On Apr 09, 2023
ekineme:
All this is not necessary, Prof. Soyinka has paid his dues for the country and like every other citizen is entitled to his opinion.
His latest opinion is not a criteria to discredit him of his past achievements.
Both Authors has contributed their quota let's focus now on the court case, all this side distraction is not necessary.
my opinion though.
I m obidient and your opinion is sound, most youths are not matured enough
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by grandstar(m):
Yugoslavia247

Are the 2 competing?

First and foremost, both are in different genres?

While Chinua Achebe is a master storyteller. Wole Soyinka is a wordsmith.

If more people have read Chinua Achebe's it is therefore comes as no surprise.

You have probably read a Stephen King novel but do you know of any of the poems written by the poet William Butler Yeats?
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Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by iamdapsyj(m): 9:46pm On Apr 09, 2023
Yugoslavia247:
I read Soyinka book. He spoke more grammar than communicate.

Achebe connects with you. You hardly forget what you read.
So sorry about that but could it be that your brain 🧠 is the one to blame for the incomprehension!!
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by hardbody: 9:54pm On Apr 09, 2023
jconsulting:
Fools everywhere Professor Soyinka collect award Achebe did not, so why kill yourself,

Some of you were not every born , let us go back to regional government and develop our region

Easterner should go back and stop claiming they help develop Lagos, Lagos can not be the state of origin of any Chukwudi or Emeka
Expand your research a little bit you will understand the circumstances of the award to Soyinka (He did the typical thing his people are known for, going behind everyone else that had agreed to boycott the award to collect it. Check and find out why Achebe chose not to accept but his books are being studied and translated into all sorts of languages, eg Things fall apart. Read wide, don't restrain yourself to ewedu and amala history around ogbomosho
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by MikeofAfrica: 9:57pm On Apr 09, 2023
PulaPower:
Jangbajantis all cuz you wanna justify failure..

Soyinka is not Achebe’s mate in everything..

For you to win a Nobel prize, you are expected to come up with something new in terms of content or form or both. And that is how you win the Nobel Prize in Literature! It's awarded to someone who has done outstanding work in an idealistic direction that adds the greatest benefit to humankind! This is who WS is and these are the categories of people Soyinka belongs to. Only few people can be compared with Wole Soyinka. Very very few..

It’s an insult to compare Achebe of just a write story to sell kind of person. Soyinka goes beyond that! Soyinka is a branch of literature while Achebe is just a brilliant literature students! That’s how far differ they’re! Achebe knows this himself! The pained little diva, Shimamada Ashidi knows this!
I have confide in you the politics that made Soyinka to win the Nobel Prize in 1986.

However if you feel happy by priasing him, so be it. He is a very good writer that I have lots of respect for. Hence he deserves your praise.

The last winner of the Nobel Prize in literature, Mrs Annie Ernaux from France won the award after writing series of autobiography about her life.

She did not write any poetry, Novel, drama or play. She won the award because the French Government played the underground politics for her.

Hence some French citizens will boost tomorrow that Annie Ernaux is better than all the reknown authors that never won the Nobel prize. This include William Shakespeare and James Joyce.

It is well.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by hardbody: 9:58pm On Apr 09, 2023
sreamsense:
The question is did he win highest world honour like Soyinka? So far he failed to win world cup in literature, forget it; humble yourself to accept Soyinka as the boss. The world weighed the two of them and gave world cup price to Soyinka because he is better. No need to brag, is not about how many books that are not recognized to win highest price in litrature, it is not about quantity of books written, it is about quality that attracts highest price which the world of literature had spoken loud about Soyinka being the boss. Stop wasting your energy, go and remain best in your own area
https://www.nairaland.com/7646592/did-wole-soyinka-betray-other#122400380

Read this, it might help
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by MikeofAfrica: 10:00pm On Apr 09, 2023
grandstar:
Yugoslavia247

Are the 2 competiting?

First and foremost, both are in different genres?

While Chinua Achebe is a master storyteller. Wole Soyinka is a wordsmith.

If more people have read Chinua Achebe's it is therefore comes as no surprise.

You have probably read a Stephen King novel but do you know of any of the poems written by the poet William Butler Yeats or even by ?
Achebe won the Commonwealth Poetry Award in 1972 . He published more than five Poetry works.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by hardbody: 10:00pm On Apr 09, 2023
jagorinho:
Another obidot!!! Did Achebe reject it?
https://www.nairaland.com/7646592/did-wole-soyinka-betray-other#122400380

What he did is typical of his people.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by LordofNaija: 10:10pm On Apr 09, 2023
jconsulting:
Fools everywhere Professor Soyinka collect award Achebe did not, so why kill yourself,

Some of you were not every born , let us go back to regional government and develop our region

Easterner should go back and stop claiming they help develop Lagos, Lagos can not be the state of origin of any Chukwudi or Emeka
I'm suspecting the award may have been rigged or pure luck. Jay is an exceptional player but Kanu holds more awards than Jay-Jay. Life indeed isn't fair
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by MikeofAfrica: 10:12pm On Apr 09, 2023
Obaaderemi2:
You really don't know anything like many of your spare parts selling brothers. grin

The Nobel Prize in literature is not awarded for any one book. It is awarded to a shortlisted author for their body of work and how much impact they contribute to their chosen field, literature. Achebe's books are too narrow in their coverage to really win the Nobel Prize. Achebe was just a literary version of writers like Stephen king without the same level of appeal.
You really don't know the process of giving an award such as the Nobel Prize.

All the books of an authors will earn him a nomination . To win the award, an author needs to have a masterclass book that is more intellectually sound than each of the other books written by his/ her competitors.

However the issue is that the Nobel Prize has long been compromised. The last winner of the award is Mrs. Annie Ernaux from France.

She is not known to have written any popular poetry, novel, drama or play. She simply wrote series of autobiography about her life experiences.

The French played the underground politics for her and she won the award. Hence very soon, some kids from France will be arguing that Annie Ernaux is better than James Joyce and William Shakespeare that never won the Nobel Prize.

Forget the Nobel Prize. If you have the money and international connections today, all you need to do to win the award is to hire a lecturer in Nigeria to write your autobiography on your behalf.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by MikeofAfrica: 10:16pm On Apr 09, 2023
blabulu2000:
As if Achebe made Adichie....see tribalism in display.....Adichie came to.limelight by different role model put.toghter....invluding wole soyinks and Achebe...she prefer to.identify with achebe because of tribe similarity...or is achebe style of writing the same as Adichie? No!


Wole Soyinka's global achievement still.speaks for him.in different conference in and out of the country.....


No be play...
So who has the yorubas produce as Soyinka successor since Adiche has taken over from Achebe.
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by PulaPower: 10:38pm On Apr 09, 2023
MikeofAfrica:
I have confide in you the politics that made Soyinka to win the Nobel Prize in 1986.

However if you feel happy by priasing him, so be it. He is a very good writer that I have lots of respect for. Hence he deserves your praise.

The last winner of the Nobel Prize in literature, Mrs Annie Ernaux from France won the award after writing series of autobiography about her life.

She did not write any poetry, Novel, drama or play. She won the award because the French Government played the underground politics for her.

Hence some French citizens will boost tomorrow that Annie Ernaux is better than all the reknown authors that never won the Nobel prize. This include William Shakespeare and James Joyce.

It is well.
Politics can’t win you a Nobel laureate. You people with self-imaginations that are wrong ehh. Different institutions all around the world would first review all your collective works. Then after they’re done, they’ll pick the major contestant.

Then another set of institutions would further review all contestants. They’ll select the main contestants that are qualified for final review! The contestants that made it for the final review would then go through further review by another set of institutions all around the world! It’s one tough award to win! The time taken to pick the winner isn’t joke!

So politics can’t win you it! It’s not something that’s been decided by mere groups, but collectives from all continents. Go and check the contestants that WS got nominated with, then you’d know the man is beyond all these things you people are saying here..

Annie Ernaux - what made her won isn’t what you mentioned. You get awarded for a Nobel prize not for a single work, but for a life’s work. I heard this her project * A Man's Place and A Woman's Story* earned her alot and was part of her success. It was published in 1988..

So politics is far from what can get you a Nobel!
Re: I Can Mention Achebes Book. How Many Soyinka Book U Sabi by Obaaderemi2: 10:38pm On Apr 09, 2023
Nwaetche:
AChebe was never Wole Soyinkas mate in the literary world. He writes in simple and understandable grammar that keeps the reader encaptivated until you reach the last page. Even his collection of poems is the same.

Translating written old Yoruba forklore does not connote originality and bamboozing readers with unnecessary grammar depicts elements of emptiness.

Achebe remained a colosus compared with Soyinka in the literary world.
You are right. Achebe writes in plain childlike style just like Sidney Sheldon and Stephen King. Such writers are never considered for the Nobel prize. wink
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