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| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Gerrard59(m): 5:11pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Africa's situation, although self-inflicted due to choices made by the populace, was also caused by colonial powers. Before now, I praised East/South Asians for their economic growth, but reading through history, one will see that they were aided by Europeans/Americans aka the white man to prosper through the transfer of technical know-how and access to white man's market. In return, these Asians became allies. The same was accorded to China and even Russia with the hope both would align with them subserviently. As that did not go as envisaged, they started attacking China for ridiculous reasons. What is different in TikTok getting data from users than Facebook and Google? The so-called Ugyhurs we are told are maltreated, blacks were and are still maltreated throughout the West. Factor in the atrocities committed by Germany and Belgium in Namibia and DRC, and it only worsens. These acts laid the foundation for the Holocaust, and these acts were long after the slave trade, and the trio ran concurrently. Then came Apartheid. As black Africans, we don too suffer. So whenever I see our people nose-poking into European issues, it begs disbelief. How many European nations have condemned the massacres by Fulani herdsmen? How many have offered refugee status to the victims? After all, some of them complain that Europe would soon be Arabized. Tor! Accept the Christian victims from Taraba and Plateau, mbanu. Rather they pay Libya militias to shoot down boats in the Mediterranean Sea. OK, you want to diversify from China due to kini kon, where do you go to? Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, India etc. Wetin do Africa? Wetin do Ghana, Senegal, DRC, Angola? Basic geography and demographics says Africa is better to place to serve your re-offshoring plans and can later serve as a growing consumer market. Mbanu! Oh! They don't have the technical know-how. Where did the Thais get theirs? Vietnamese nko? The chip industry is being moved to India. If moved to Nigeria, una go die? The way I see it, white folks have designed the world in such a way that black Africa remains at the bottom due to some reasons I cannot formulate. One is that due to the heinous atrocities committed by them towards us, should we become prosperous, we would pay them back in their coin and possibly worse. We will be more stubborn than the Chinese and bolder than the Russians. Add our growing and energetic demographics with established black populations in the West, we fit dey place sanctions and commit treasonable acts stealing sensitive information. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Smartb0y: 6:16pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
pansophist:What's your take on this?
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| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Hotice085: 9:34pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
pansophist:I am just seeing this now and truly see why despite you trying to sound inspirational most especially to Africans one can clearly see why that is not possible. Ordinary for you to explain who and what is a white man you started dancing makosa but here you are trying to sound like Patrice Lumumba and other African great rebels I will answer the white man question in the proper place but as for here, I can see you are also the type that blames the colonialist for the failures of the African man. So in this 2023 you still think just like your father and grandfather that the west is your problem, them most certainly your kids are already indoctrinated with these jargons. If you are adovcatiing for Africa total independence it must start with yourself, yoir choice of words matters a lot . Who says he is white man, what manner of system is putting the African man where he is? Were the British not under the Romans, Americans under British, Chinese under the Japanese and British, Arabs under the Turks and British, Indians Koreans Malaysiaians were all colonised but why are all them not wailing and lamenting like the Africans Why are Nigerians doing very well in America and the West with the society being among the most educated? But down here we blame the west that also colonised other continents that are now far progressive than the African continent? Nigeria at independence was better than China,India and South Korea, Dubai Malaysia were shit holes. What did they do that your leaders couldn't do instead they blame the west, you also and same with your kids. Do the Indians have ten heads ? As long as you lots who championed the sales of your brothers to the Europeans but will only blame the Europeans and never for one day question yourself but always be blaming others till eternity nothing good will come out Ordinary election you can't conduct or maybe it is the West that asked MC Oluomo and otheito go about stabbing others while INEC promised us what they knew they will never do Stop blaming the West, your destiny is in your hand |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 6:54am On Apr 11, 2023*. Modified: 10:34am On Apr 11, 2023 |
Gerrard59:How are the Chinese and Koreans paying the Japanese back in their own coins, due to the heinous atrocities committed by the Japanese towards them? Thanks. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 6:56am On Apr 11, 2023 |
Hotice085:Thanks a lot for this post. Stay blessed. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 7:01am On Apr 11, 2023 |
Gerrard59:Can you please make up your mind about whether our rotten situation and backwardness is self inflicted, or it is caused by the oyinbos? |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by fredwill1357(m): 8:59am On Apr 11, 2023*. Modified: 3:58pm On Feb 04, 2024 |
seguno2:Africa situation is caused by both factors, the West, African leaders and the African populace. However, much of the blame should go to African leaders and African people. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 10:03am On Apr 11, 2023 |
fredwill1357:So why are we not working hard on the much part that is in our control, for the all round success we desire, instead of forever blaming the whites as an alibi for our inaction and endemic failures? |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by fredwill1357(m): 10:52am On Apr 11, 2023 |
seguno2:Because most of us Africans are nothing but self centered brainwashed idiots. It's not the West that stops Nigeria from achieving 24hrs electricity or other simple advancements. African leaders and African people are the number 1 problem of Africa. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by pansophist(op): 11:24am On Apr 11, 2023 |
Smartb0y:I'm not into Nigerian/local politics. Don't know much about it to have an opinion. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by pansophist(op): 11:52am On Apr 11, 2023 |
fredwill1357:Exactly. Seems like you get my point clearly without adding extra rubbish like many are doing. All I'm saying is that colonialism doesn't end. It doesn't justify our laziness, it doesn't exempt us from the bulk of the blame (no one can make you a slave without your consent), its simply a statement of fact. It's like saying "black live matter", while some racist will understand it to be that non-black lives doesn't matter. Two things can be true at the same time. We are to be blamed, just as the Europeans are to be blamed. The West recently destroyed Libya, sanctioning countries upon countries, weaponising the dollars, ignoring crimes of our leaders as far it doesn't conflate with their interest, support break up of countries that they hate (eg Russia and china), but won't support it with Biafra or Donass for example. Is it a surprise that non western countries like Iran, Russia and china are actively fighting against it, falling for a new world order, but it seems these mofos are comfortable as far they can feel righteous and blame only our leaders. Just as you blame our leaders, the bulk of the blame is also on them as well. If I steal millions to deposit in a bank, the blame is on me the thief, and also the banks that collected it. How can this basic operational moral principles be difficult to grasp? So wouldn't it be valid if I point out their wrong doing? Being accountable as a people also mean identifying the aggression and evil others are doing to you. It's the same way you give your dog bone, but kill the cockroaches. One is for you, while the other is not. The daftness in comprehension of many nairalanders shocks me I swear. The misinterpretation, misrepresentation, mis-comprehension, false equivalence, and Stockholm Syndrome makes me ashame to admit that we might be a conquered people after all, and these are the symptoms. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by shegzhkn: 1:06pm On Apr 11, 2023*. Modified: 3:51pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
pansophist:Same ol same ol. The fact that you are too dumb to understand the point other raised is a proof you are a lost fvcking cause. They colonise you, called you monkey and other racial epithets, guess what the Koreans are also victims of injustice, but they did not just start whining and complaining like you doing right now. They came up with a five years plan that will commence her industrial revolution by investing massively in education and also the same evil west helped them. Now you have Korea all over your faces from smartphones, cars, consumer electronics, steel, ship, petrochemicals and semi conductors, the question is WTF was your forbears doing at that time ?? He even used a stupid thief and bank example to reinforce his warped reasoning, bank resemble institute of morality for ur face ?? |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Gerrard59(m): 3:05pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
seguno2:Japan was assisted by the US after being bombed with nuclear by the same Americans. Japan got unfettered access to the US/European market and even restricted or resisted purchasing American goods. They grew tremendously to the extent that economists thought she would surpass the US until the Abracadabra Plaza Accords. Low birth rates and innovation contributed though, but the Plaza Accords get as e be. The same economic benefits to the Japanese applies to the Chinese, but unlike the Japanese, they have resisted bowing down to the West. I wish China well. She should stay strong. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 3:28pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
Gerrard59:You didn’t say how the Chinese and Koreans are paying the Japanese for many brutal decades of oppression, which is your excuse for why the whites are not helping us blacks. Can you please answer this. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 3:30pm On Apr 11, 2023 |
fredwill1357:I hear you loud and clear. Thanks. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Hotice085: 6:21am On Apr 12, 2023 |
pansophist:Shut d 4k up! Your mentality shows you are programmed to blame your so called white man( Russians inclusive) You are dumber than a grain of rice Russia you say is not a western nation, but according to your language usuage are they white or not? If you can't tell me who is a white man and what is white man, take it from me you are the most inferiority complex ridden piece of shit on this platform |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 10:38pm On Apr 17, 2023 |
BidenDTrounced:For anyone that cares to read. Origins of Corruption In Africa https://panafricanreview.rw/origins-of-corruption-in-africa/ Colonialism is alive and well in Africa, but goes by many nice names https://roape.net/2022/01/26/colonialism-is-alive-and-well-in-africa-but-goes-by-many-nice-names/ |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by virginboy1(m): 9:02pm On Apr 18, 2023 |
This is why it is good to follow people with high IQ on nairaland. ..You get to come across educative threads such as this that hardly sees FP. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by letu(m): 8:59pm On Apr 19, 2023 |
seguno2:You know nothing stop's you from being our leader, maybe you can become our leader and tell the west get the hell out of my country we don't need you all anymore, who knows your own case might end up differently in which they will give you a kiss and say goodbye we accept or they will give you the Libyan treatment . |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 12:43am On Apr 20, 2023 |
letu:Why should I do something that you are equally capable of doing? Which Asian country told the West to get the heck out of their country? |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 7:31pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
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| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 4:13am On Apr 21, 2023 |
BidenDTrounced:There are some misguided folks like gambojimeta (see attached) who feel that speaking out against neocolonialism is a campaign to ask Nigerians to remain confined within the boundaries of the nation. On the contrary, there are speakers like pansophist who drops tips on immigration. My interests is a developed and prosperous Africa where ordinary Africans have the resources to travel and explore the world without having to dehumanize themselves. We can do this by weaning ourselves from the influence of the same entities that have made your native land inhabitable for the reasons stated here: "Corruption as it is is a legacy of Western colonialism. After years of looting, stealing, maiming and brigandage, the West was able to create a 'garden' for themselves and sustain this garden by the continuous subjugation and exploitation of those condemned to the jungle" Origins of Corruption In Africa https://panafricanreview.rw/origins-of-corruption-in-africa/ Colonialism is alive and well in Africa, but goes by many nice names https://roape.net/2022/01/26/colonialism-is-alive-and-well-in-africa-but-goes-by-many-nice-names/ Look at Saudi Arabia for example "Population estimates are seen to have a very small diaspora, mainly because the KSA provides native Saudis with more than adequate welfare benefits, removing the need to live and work in other developed countries. There are a variety of reasons why so few Saudi Arabians chose to permanently live to the United States. Among these were the wealth of Saudi Arabia, the religious faith and pride of Saudis who found it difficult to maintain an Islamic lifestyle in the United States, and a lack of factors motivating citizens to leave Saudi Arabia. The limited number of marriages between the US and Saudi citizens may also have contributed to the low number of Saudi immigrants and of Saudi American " Wikipedia... the West should focus on introducing democracy in Saudi Arabia instead of pillaging developing countries. The reason I'm relaxing on the RUS - UKR conflict is because the war is over, my aspirations came to fruition much more rapidly than I expected. The West has receded and declined, we're now in a multipolar world where Yuan is an acceptable alternative to the dollar, sanctions are impotent, the West has been unable to isolate Russia (the West still has embassies in Russia sef...they could communicate with Russia via Nigeria or cnn), the West has been unable to prevent trade between Russia and the relevant stakeholders (China and India).. plus, Nazi Ukraine has lost territory that is comparable to the size of some countries and the West is unable to achieve any of it's intended goals/ambition (the West is incapacitated).
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| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 4:26am On Apr 21, 2023*. Modified: 10:41am On Apr 21, 2023 |
BidenDTrounced:In addition to this, President Peter Obi, President of Biafra, some parts of Nigeria and commander in chief of obidients worldwide has submitted an application for Africa (yes, he also doubles as the president of Africa) to join NATO. Our enormous natural resources is too dear to allow it to fall into Russian hands. ![]() BidenDTrounced: |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by lawani(m): 12:15pm On Jun 24, 2023 |
You can as well say Japan, Germany, South Korea etc were colonized because what is the difference?. Germany was only allowed to reunite in the 90s. There are well respected leaders with integrity from Africa. Many of them. Aminu Kano, Obafemi Awolowo are as popular among their followers as Chairman Mao in China or Lee Kuan Yew in Singapore. The way the Japanese and Germans are different is that they are aligned behind their leadership. There is no ethnic rivalry or people trying to rule people they hate. Can you blame the US or Britain or China or Russia for that?. Then you can't lump all Africa together. Most African countries are like Eastern Europe and Eastern Europe is only better mainly because of a lower dependency ratio. Nigeria in Africa is the outlier and a breakup of the country is the best solution. If you don't break up the country, then the country will have to continue struggling to find its feet and it will be as an English speaking country with local languages at risk of being eradicated. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by IbeOkehie: 6:02pm On Jun 28, 2023 |
lawani:Why exactly is Nigeria still united? If Unity has been such a bad thing then WHY have the different tribes and their elites continued to go along with a United Nigeria? I'm curious to know what you think. Thanks. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by lawani(m): 7:52pm On Jun 28, 2023 |
IbeOkehie:Simply because no serious leader has risen to commit self to dismembering the country so far. That is the only reason. It does not take more than meeting the right people in the US and Britain especially and appealing to them. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by mysticwarrior(m): 4:55am On Jun 29, 2023 |
tensazangetsu20:fact. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by panafrican(m): 5:53am On Jun 29, 2023 |
True. That is why we need to fight by relying not only on ourselves but also on countries that can help mitigate or annihilate colonialism . You must invest in manufacturing , develop inter-African road infrastructure, and trade. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Martinez39s(m): 6:32pm On Jul 01, 2023 |
Pansophist and his interesting posts. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by pansophist(op): 12:27am On Jul 05, 2023 |
Martinez39s:Did you agree with the post that colonialism did not end? |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Martinez39s(m): 9:55pm On Jul 10, 2023 |
pansophist:Sure. The funniest and most deplorable one is our mindset of according greater importance to the European traditional way of wedding than our traditional wedding. |
| Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Kipaji: 9:19am On Jul 30, 2023 |
tommy589:There is no freedom. Furthermore, this monetary control also furthers their intellectual control. While other countries' currencies show some remarkable people in their history (King Sejon on the Korean won bill, Benjamin Franklin on the US dollar bill, ...), the CFA shows nothing. No Um Nyobe, no Ouandié, no Lumumba... Just useless images of agriculture, buildings, and so on. They don't want the African youth to be aware as revolutions always start in the mind. I was disappointed when new CFA bills came out some months ago but without any historical figures. |
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..You get to come across educative threads such as this that hardly sees FP.