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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Gerrard59(m): 5:11pm On Apr 10, 2023
Africa's situation, although self-inflicted due to choices made by the populace, was also caused by colonial powers. Before now, I praised East/South Asians for their economic growth, but reading through history, one will see that they were aided by Europeans/Americans aka the white man to prosper through the transfer of technical know-how and access to white man's market. In return, these Asians became allies. The same was accorded to China and even Russia with the hope both would align with them subserviently. As that did not go as envisaged, they started attacking China for ridiculous reasons. What is different in TikTok getting data from users than Facebook and Google? The so-called Ugyhurs we are told are maltreated, blacks were and are still maltreated throughout the West. Factor in the atrocities committed by Germany and Belgium in Namibia and DRC, and it only worsens. These acts laid the foundation for the Holocaust, and these acts were long after the slave trade, and the trio ran concurrently. Then came Apartheid.

As black Africans, we don too suffer. So whenever I see our people nose-poking into European issues, it begs disbelief. How many European nations have condemned the massacres by Fulani herdsmen? How many have offered refugee status to the victims? After all, some of them complain that Europe would soon be Arabized. Tor! Accept the Christian victims from Taraba and Plateau, mbanu. Rather they pay Libya militias to shoot down boats in the Mediterranean Sea.

OK, you want to diversify from China due to kini kon, where do you go to? Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, India etc. Wetin do Africa? Wetin do Ghana, Senegal, DRC, Angola? Basic geography and demographics says Africa is better to place to serve your re-offshoring plans and can later serve as a growing consumer market. Mbanu! Oh! They don't have the technical know-how. Where did the Thais get theirs? Vietnamese nko? The chip industry is being moved to India. If moved to Nigeria, una go die?

The way I see it, white folks have designed the world in such a way that black Africa remains at the bottom due to some reasons I cannot formulate. One is that due to the heinous atrocities committed by them towards us, should we become prosperous, we would pay them back in their coin and possibly worse. We will be more stubborn than the Chinese and bolder than the Russians. Add our growing and energetic demographics with established black populations in the West, we fit dey place sanctions and commit treasonable acts stealing sensitive information.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Smartb0y: 6:16pm On Apr 10, 2023
pansophist:


If you read closely like a human being with a brain, you'll notice that there is no blaming here.
What's your take on this?

Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Hotice085: 9:34pm On Apr 10, 2023
pansophist:
This is sad for me to say, and the political elites know this well, but I'll say it anyways.

The realities of most African countries right now are not a happenstance, but something that has been carefully engineered centuries ago by the West. We exist in the world they created for us, and we are exactly where they want us to be.

In this imposed world they created, our best time would be in the past, not the future. The best time in your country will be in the memories of your parents, and if you think that you're having a bad time, then the upcoming generation will have it worse.

Africa as a whole never got independence in the truest sense of the word, what we called "independence" is nothing but the transition from a dying method of exploitation (colonialism), to a more sophisticated, effective, self-sustaining method of subjugation (imperialism). Nothing more.

You can't call yourself independent when your official language, political system, monetary policy, culture, and educational system have been heavily designed and photocopied by people that destroyed you in the first place. You're not independent when your strength comes from others/outside, not inside, from you.

The day any African country can survive just like Russia and China who have been sanctioned to death by the West that sees itself as an earthly god, on that very day, we have achieved independence. The day we can lock our borders and not get anything from the West through importation (autarky) and still stands, just like Russia, is when we have achieved true independence.

Most countries except maybe six globally grew outside the Western hegemonic order, hence no matter what the West does to them, they simply cannot go down, and they are hated for that.

Your politicians know this very dark fact, I also assume they are hopeless in it, and just choose to embezzle instead. Foreign powers whom are way stronger than regional and national powers and pull the strings from a global level. Africa has never had a leader in the league of Mao or Lee Kuan Yew, all we have are rulers. Foolish rulers don't know what leadership and true independence is.

Sorry for being the carrier of bad news, but unless a slave knows that he is a slave, he will never plot his freedom. Africa must undergo another series of true independence and flush off cesspit democracy once and for all because no third-world country will ever grow under such a system. It was not designed to.

Right now, the youth that should fight the system and rescue themselves from this imposed slavery their parents couldn't destroy are all on social media trying to gain followers lol, addicted to porn and gambling, chronic womanizers, alcoholics and ashawos , and these distractions are all by design. But still, I recognized the system stacked against them, making them survive in such a humiliating way. Na person wey chop belleful de fight for freedom.

If you want to truly swallow the red pill, then this is it. In a nutshell, you're surviving (not thriving) in a system created for you by the West. Like a zoo lion, you're merely a sentient for exploitation, and you do not control the realities of your existence.


I am just seeing this now and truly see why despite you trying to sound inspirational most especially to Africans one can clearly see why that is not possible.
Ordinary for you to explain who and what is a white man you started dancing makosa but here you are trying to sound like Patrice Lumumba and other African great rebels
I will answer the white man question in the proper place but as for here, I can see you are also the type that blames the colonialist for the failures of the African man.
So in this 2023 you still think just like your father and grandfather that the west is your problem, them most certainly your kids are already indoctrinated with these jargons. If you are adovcatiing for Africa total independence it must start with yourself, yoir choice of words matters a lot .
Who says he is white man, what manner of system is putting the African man where he is?
Were the British not under the Romans, Americans under British, Chinese under the Japanese and British, Arabs under the Turks and British, Indians Koreans Malaysiaians were all colonised but why are all them not wailing and lamenting like the Africans
Why are Nigerians doing very well in America and the West with the society being among the most educated?
But down here we blame the west that also colonised other continents that are now far progressive than the African continent?
Nigeria at independence was better than China,India and South Korea, Dubai Malaysia were shit holes. What did they do that your leaders couldn't do instead they blame the west, you also and same with your kids. Do the Indians have ten heads ?

As long as you lots who championed the sales of your brothers to the Europeans but will only blame the Europeans and never for one day question yourself but always be blaming others till eternity nothing good will come out

Ordinary election you can't conduct or maybe it is the West that asked MC Oluomo and otheito go about stabbing others while INEC promised us what they knew they will never do

Stop blaming the West, your destiny is in your hand

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 6:54am On Apr 11, 2023
Gerrard59:
Africa's situation, although self-inflicted due to choices made by the populace, was also caused by colonial powers. Before now, I praised East/South Asians for their economic growth, but reading through history, one will see that they were aided by Europeans/Americans aka the white man to prosper through the transfer of technical know-how and access to white man's market. In return, these Asians became allies. The same was accorded to China and even Russia with the hope both would align with them subserviently. As that did not go as envisaged, they started attacking China for ridiculous reasons. What is different in TikTok getting data from users than Facebook and Google? The so-called Ugyhurs we are told are maltreated, blacks were and are still maltreated throughout the West. Factor in the atrocities committed by Germany and Belgium in Namibia and DRC, and it only worsens. These acts laid the foundation for the Holocaust, and these acts were long after the slave trade, and the trio ran concurrently. Then came Apartheid.

As black Africans, we don too suffer. So whenever I see our people nose-poking into European issues, it begs disbelief. How many European nations have condemned the massacres by Fulani herdsmen? How many have offered refugee status to the victims? After all, some of them complain that Europe would soon be Arabized. Tor! Accept the Christian victims from Taraba and Plateau, mbanu. Rather they pay Libya militias to shoot down boats in the Mediterranean Sea.

OK, you want to diversify from China due to kini kon, where do you go to? Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, India etc. Wetin do Africa? Wetin do Ghana, Senegal, DRC, Angola? Basic geography and demographics says Africa is better to place to serve your re-offshoring plans and can later serve as a growing consumer market. Mbanu! Oh! They don't have the technical know-how. Where did the Thais get theirs? Vietnamese nko? The chip industry is being moved to India. If moved to Nigeria, una go die?

The way I see it, white folks have designed the world in such a way that black Africa remains at the bottom due to some reasons I cannot formulate. One is that due to the heinous atrocities committed by them towards us, should we become prosperous, we would pay them back in their coin and possibly worse. We will be more stubborn than the Chinese and bolder than the Russians. Add our growing and energetic demographics with established black populations in the West, we fit dey place sanctions and commit treasonable acts stealing sensitive information.

How are the Chinese and Koreans paying the Japanese back in their own coins, due to the heinous atrocities committed by the Japanese towards them?
Thanks.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 6:56am On Apr 11, 2023
Hotice085:

I am just seeing this now and truly see why despite you trying to sound inspirational most especially to Africans one can clearly see why that is not possible.
Ordinary for you to explain who and what is a white man you started dancing makosa but here you are trying to sound like Patrice Lumumba and other African great rebels
I will answer the white man question in the proper place but as for here, I can see you are also the type that blames the colonialist for the failures of the African man.
So in this 2023 you still think just like your father and grandfather that the west is your problem, them most certainly your kids are already indoctrinated with these jargons. If you are adovcatiing for Africa total independence it must start with yourself, yoir choice of words matters a lot .
Who says he is white man, what manner of system is putting the African man where he is?
Were the British not under the Romans, Americans under British, Chinese under the Japanese and British, Arabs under the Turks and British, Indians Koreans Malaysiaians were all colonised but why are all them not wailing and lamenting like the Africans
Why are Nigerians doing very well in America and the West with the society being among the most educated?
But down here we blame the west that also colonised other continents that are now far progressive than the African continent?
Nigeria at independence was better than China,India and South Korea, Dubai Malaysia were shit holes. What did they do that your leaders couldn't do instead they blame the west, you also and same with your kids. Do the Indians have ten heads ?

As long as you lots who championed the sales of your brothers to the Europeans but will only blame the Europeans and never for one day question yourself but always be blaming others till eternity nothing good will come out

Ordinary election you can't conduct or maybe it is the West that asked MC Oluomo and otheito go about stabbing others while INEC promised us what they knew they will never do

Stop blaming the West, your destiny is in your hand

Thanks a lot for this post.
Stay blessed.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 7:01am On Apr 11, 2023
Gerrard59:
Africa's situation, although self-inflicted due to choices made by the populace, was also caused by colonial powers. Before now, I praised East/South Asians for their economic growth, but reading through history, one will see that they were aided by Europeans/Americans aka the white man to prosper through the transfer of technical know-how and access to white man's market. In return, these Asians became allies. The same was accorded to China and even Russia with the hope both would align with them subserviently. As that did not go as envisaged, they started attacking China for ridiculous reasons. What is different in TikTok getting data from users than Facebook and Google? The so-called Ugyhurs we are told are maltreated, blacks were and are still maltreated throughout the West. Factor in the atrocities committed by Germany and Belgium in Namibia and DRC, and it only worsens. These acts laid the foundation for the Holocaust, and these acts were long after the slave trade, and the trio ran concurrently. Then came Apartheid.

As black Africans, we don too suffer. So whenever I see our people nose-poking into European issues, it begs disbelief. How many European nations have condemned the massacres by Fulani herdsmen? How many have offered refugee status to the victims? After all, some of them complain that Europe would soon be Arabized. Tor! Accept the Christian victims from Taraba and Plateau, mbanu. Rather they pay Libya militias to shoot down boats in the Mediterranean Sea.

OK, you want to diversify from China due to kini kon, where do you go to? Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, India etc. Wetin do Africa? Wetin do Ghana, Senegal, DRC, Angola? Basic geography and demographics says Africa is better to place to serve your re-offshoring plans and can later serve as a growing consumer market. Mbanu! Oh! They don't have the technical know-how. Where did the Thais get theirs? Vietnamese nko? The chip industry is being moved to India. If moved to Nigeria, una go die?

The way I see it, white folks have designed the world in such a way that black Africa remains at the bottom due to some reasons I cannot formulate. One is that due to the heinous atrocities committed by them towards us, should we become prosperous, we would pay them back in their coin and possibly worse. We will be more stubborn than the Chinese and bolder than the Russians. Add our growing and energetic demographics with established black populations in the West, we fit dey place sanctions and commit treasonable acts stealing sensitive information.

Can you please make up your mind about whether our rotten situation and backwardness is self inflicted, or it is caused by the oyinbos?
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by fredwill1357(m): 8:59am On Apr 11, 2023
seguno2:


Can you please make up your mind about whether our rotten situation and backwardness is self inflicted, or it is caused by the oyinbos?
Africa situation is caused by both factors, the West, African leaders and the African populace. However, much of the blame should go to African leaders and African people.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 10:03am On Apr 11, 2023
fredwill1357:
Africa situation is caused by both factors, the West, African leaders and the African populace. However, much of the blame should go to African leaders and the African people.

So why are we not working hard on the much part that is in our control, for the all round success we desire, instead of forever blaming the whites as an alibi for our inaction and endemic failures?
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by fredwill1357(m): 10:52am On Apr 11, 2023
seguno2:


So why are we not working hard on the much part that is in our control, for the all round success we desire, instead of forever blaming the whites as an alibi for our inaction and endemic failures?
Because most of us Africans are nothing but self centered brainwashed idiots. It's not the West that stops Nigeria from achieving 24hrs electricity or other simple advancements. African leaders and African people are the number 1 problem of Africa.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by pansophist(m): 11:24am On Apr 11, 2023
Smartb0y:

What's your take on this?

I'm not into Nigerian/local politics. Don't know much about it to have an opinion.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by pansophist(m): 11:52am On Apr 11, 2023
fredwill1357:
Africa situation is caused by both factors, the West, African leaders and the African populace. However, much of the blame should go to African leaders and the African people.

Exactly. Seems like you get my point clearly without adding extra rubbish like many are doing.

All I'm saying is that colonialism doesn't end. It doesn't justify our laziness, it doesn't exempt us from the bulk of the blame (no one can make you a slave without your consent), its simply a statement of fact.

It's like saying "black live matter", while some racist will understand it to be that non-black lives doesn't matter. Two things can be true at the same time.

We are to be blamed, just as the Europeans are to be blamed. The West recently destroyed Libya, sanctioning countries upon countries, weaponising the dollars, ignoring crimes of our leaders as far it doesn't conflate with their interest, support break up of countries that they hate (eg Russia and china), but won't support it with Biafra or Donass for example.

Is it a surprise that non western countries like Iran, Russia and china are actively fighting against it, falling for a new world order, but it seems these mofos are comfortable as far they can feel righteous and blame only our leaders.

Just as you blame our leaders, the bulk of the blame is also on them as well. If I steal millions to deposit in a bank, the blame is on me the thief, and also the banks that collected it. How can this basic operational moral principles be difficult to grasp?

So wouldn't it be valid if I point out their wrong doing? Being accountable as a people also mean identifying the aggression and evil others are doing to you. It's the same way you give your dog bone, but kill the cockroaches. One is for you, while the other is not.

The daftness in comprehension of many nairalanders shocks me I swear. The misinterpretation, misrepresentation, mis-comprehension, false equivalence, and Stockholm Syndrome makes me ashame to admit that we might be a conquered people after all, and these are the symptoms.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by shegzhkn: 1:06pm On Apr 11, 2023
pansophist:


Exactly. Seems like you get my point clearly without adding extra rubbish like many are doing.

All I'm saying is that colonialism doesn't end. It doesn't justify our laziness, it doesn't exempt us from the bulk of the blame (no one can make you a slave without your consent), its simply a statement of fact.

It's like saying "black live matter", while some racist will understand it to be that non-black lives doesn't matter. Two things can be true at the same time.

We are to be blamed, just as the Europeans are to be blamed. The West recently destroyed Libya, sanctioning countries upon countries, weaponising the dollars, ignoring crimes of our leaders as far it doesn't conflate with their interest, support break up of countries that they hate (eg Russia and china), but won't support it with Biafra or Donass for example.

Is it a surprise that non western countries like Iran, Russia and china are actively fighting against it, falling for a new world order, but it seems these mofos are comfortable as far they can feel righteous and blame only our leaders.

Just as you blame our leaders, the bulk of the blame is also on them as well. If I steal millions to deposit in a bank, the blame is on me the thief, and also the banks that collected it. How can this basic operational moral principles be difficult to grasp?

So wouldn't it be valid if I point out their wrong doing? Being accountable as a people also mean identifying the aggression and evil others are doing to you. It's the same way you give your dog bone, but kill the cockroaches. One is for you, while the other is not.

The daftness in comprehension of many nairalanders shocks me I swear. The misinterpretation, misrepresentation, mis-comprehension, false equivalence, and Stockholm Syndrome makes me ashame to admit that we might be a conquered people after all, and these are the symptoms.
Same ol same ol.
The fact that you are too dumb to understand the point other raised is a proof you are a lost fvcking cause.
They colonise you, called you monkey and other racial epithets, guess what the Koreans are also victims of injustice, but they did not just start whining and complaining like you doing right now. They came up with a five years plan that will commence her industrial revolution by investing massively in education and also the same evil west helped them.
Now you have Korea all over your faces from smartphones, cars, consumer electronics, steel, ship, petrochemicals and semi conductors, the question is WTF was your forbears doing at that time ??
He even used a stupid thief and bank example to reinforce his warped reasoning, bank resemble institute of morality for ur face ??

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Gerrard59(m): 3:05pm On Apr 11, 2023
seguno2:


How are the Chinese and Koreans paying the Japanese back in their own coins, due to the heinous atrocities committed by the Japanese towards them?

Thanks.

Japan was assisted by the US after being bombed with nuclear by the same Americans. Japan got unfettered access to the US/European market and even restricted or resisted purchasing American goods. They grew tremendously to the extent that economists thought she would surpass the US until the Abracadabra Plaza Accords. Low birth rates and innovation contributed though, but the Plaza Accords get as e be. The same economic benefits to the Japanese applies to the Chinese, but unlike the Japanese, they have resisted bowing down to the West.

I wish China well. She should stay strong.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 3:28pm On Apr 11, 2023
Gerrard59:
Japan was assisted by the US after being bombed with nuclear by the same Americans. Japan got unfettered access to the US/European market and even restricted or resisted purchasing American goods. They grew tremendously to the extent that economists thought she would surpass the US until the Abracadabra Plaza Accords. Low birth rates and innovation contributed though, but the Plaza Accords get as e be. The same economic benefits to the Japanese applies to the Chinese, but unlike the Japanese, they have resisted bowing down to the West.

I wish China well. She should stay strong.

You didn’t say how the Chinese and Koreans are paying the Japanese for many brutal decades of oppression, which is your excuse for why the whites are not helping us blacks. Can you please answer this.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 3:30pm On Apr 11, 2023
fredwill1357:
Because most of us Africans are nothing but self centered brainwashed idiots. It's not the West that stops Nigeria from achieving 24hrs electricity or other simple advancements. African leaders and African people are the number 1 problem of Africa.

I hear you loud and clear.
Thanks.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Hotice085: 6:21am On Apr 12, 2023
pansophist:


Exactly. Seems like you get my point clearly without adding extra rubbish like many are doing.

All I'm saying is that colonialism doesn't end. It doesn't justify our laziness, it doesn't exempt us from the bulk of the blame (no one can make you a slave without your consent), its simply a statement of fact.

It's like saying "black live matter", while some racist will understand it to be that non-black lives doesn't matter. Two things can be true at the same time.

We are to be blamed, just as the Europeans are to be blamed. The West recently destroyed Libya, sanctioning countries upon countries, weaponising the dollars, ignoring crimes of our leaders as far it doesn't conflate with their interest, support break up of countries that they hate (eg Russia and china), but won't support it with Biafra or Donass for example.

Is it a surprise that non western countries like Iran, Russia and china are actively fighting against it, falling for a new world order, but it seems these mofos are comfortable as far they can feel righteous and blame only our leaders.

Just as you blame our leaders, the bulk of the blame is also on them as well. If I steal millions to deposit in a bank, the blame is on me the thief, and also the banks that collected it. How can this basic operational moral principles be difficult to grasp?

So wouldn't it be valid if I point out their wrong doing? Being accountable as a people also mean identifying the aggression and evil others are doing to you. It's the same way you give your dog bone, but kill the cockroaches. One is for you, while the other is not.

The daftness in comprehension of many nairalanders shocks me I swear. The misinterpretation, misrepresentation, mis-comprehension, false equivalence, and Stockholm Syndrome makes me ashame to admit that we might be a conquered people after all, and these are the symptoms.



Shut d 4k up!
Your mentality shows you are programmed to blame your so called white man( Russians inclusive)
You are dumber than a grain of rice

Russia you say is not a western nation, but according to your language usuage are they white or not?
If you can't tell me who is a white man and what is white man, take it from me you are the most inferiority complex ridden piece of shit on this platform

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 10:38pm On Apr 17, 2023
BidenDTrounced:
The age of colonialism began in the late 15th century and ended after some 500 years, after most colonized territories were set free by their metropoles. However, many believe that colonialism didn't end, but morphed into what is called today "neo-colonialism," with new ways of exploiting developing nations.

Today's collective West, clinging in every way possible to the dominance it is losing, still sees other countries as objects of colonial enslavement, said Sergey Naryshkin, director of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service and chairman of the Russian Historical Society.
Among the West's past colonial acts were the transatlantic slave trade, forcible distribution of opium in China, and the elimination of entire ethnic groups and cultures(the indigenous people of Canada for example), Naryshkin noted at a round table on colonialism on Monday

"Today's Western leaders tend to claim that the position of their countries is allegedly due to the effectiveness of democratic institutions," Naryshkin said. "In fact, the well-being of the neo-colonial powers is built on blood, unfair and violent redistribution, distribution of funds to the detriment of all those who are not part of the so-called "golden billion."

Today, many of Russia's African and Asian partners are looking at Moscow with hope, supporting Russian initiatives designed to ensure a democratic world order based on international law and principles of multipolarity, he noted.

“At the same time, recalling the words of one of the Brussels officials, Josep Borrell, who called the European Union a flowering garden surrounded by jungle, I conclude that history, unfortunately, has taught our opponents nothing,” Naryshkin stated.
The West trying to keep its dominance is still thinking within the old paradigm of colonialism, called "the rules-based order," he concluded.

African Countries Are Dumb And Easy To Manipulate- EU Is Talking From Experience
https://www.nairaland.com/7559246/african-countries-dumb-easy-manipulate


The US/West exploits the world through various clandestine activities but most especially it's currency. The economic disparity between the collective west and developing countries can be considered an exploitation or rebranded slavery. The legal minimum wage for jobs in most western countries is the equivalent of $10/hr. For illustration, A factory worker in the US/west earns $15/hr, 8 hours per day in a 5 day work week = about $500 weekly. In 2 weeks time, this factory worker would be able to save about $1000 for a tech product.... I know this worker will have other needs but this is just for illustration. Meanwhile, a factory worker in Nigeria working 8 hours a day..maybe 10K a day ..in a 5 day work week would earn like 50K naira weekly...in 2 weeks, that's 100K naira (less than $250 as of today). Both had the same labour input but the Nigerian was exploited by the hegemon and has limited opportunities due to the barriers and obstacles created by the economic disparity that favours only a few minority.

For anyone that cares to read.
Origins of Corruption In Africa
https://panafricanreview.rw/origins-of-corruption-in-africa/




Colonialism is alive and well in Africa, but goes by many nice names

https://roape.net/2022/01/26/colonialism-is-alive-and-well-in-africa-but-goes-by-many-nice-names/
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by virginboy1(m): 9:02pm On Apr 18, 2023
This is why it is good to follow people with high IQ on nairaland. smiley ..You get to come across educative threads such as this that hardly sees FP.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by letu(m): 8:59pm On Apr 19, 2023
seguno2:


Keep making excuses instead of working hard to get what you want for your group. Maybe you actually want nothing.

Go and read about any country, whether it’s in Asia, Middle East or even Europe and see how each one of your excuses is what they had in their history. I’m sure you don’t know that the UK/Britain was not always one country, and is today not exactly one country.
You know nothing stop's you from being our leader, maybe you can become our leader and tell the west get the hell out of my country we don't need you all anymore, who knows your own case might end up differently in which they will give you a kiss and say goodbye we accept or they will give you the Libyan treatment smiley.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by seguno2: 12:43am On Apr 20, 2023
letu:
You know nothing stop's you from being our leader, maybe you can become our leader and tell the west get the hell out of my country we don't need you all anymore, who knows your own case might end up differently in which they will give you a kiss and say goodbye we accept or they will give you the Libyan treatment smiley.

Why should I do something that you are equally capable of doing?

Which Asian country told the West to get the heck out of their country?
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 7:31pm On Apr 20, 2023
BidenDTrounced:
The BBC story continues that with bribes estimated to be over $100m, “Companies controlled by Mr Gertler started sweeping up licences for mineral deposits all over the country.” Not to eat alone, Gertler helped other capitalist exploiters “like Swiss commodities trader Glencore and New York hedge fund company Och-Ziff Capital Management.” These acquired control over mining sites, and the pillage continued. It is estimated that DR Congo has lost $1.36bn in these shady deals. Presently, there are Blue Helmets in DR Congo, and continued violence in different parts of the country directly connected to the ways in which minerals are mined in the region. The difference here is that while King Leopold II would be directly called out, under Gertler’s regime, it is individual Congolese held responsible for killing each other. Gertler is deftly hidden.


BidenDTrounced:
For those unfamiliar with the new wave of colonialist-capitalist control, it is easy to put the two Kabila presidencies on the spot for being corrupt and allowing foreign pillage. It is also easy to seek to hold Gertler as individually accountable. This would be barely scratching the surface. These men are beneficiaries and servants of a ‘regime of truth’ that was set in motion by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.

Under the language of free market economies, former and new colonisers work in the background—outsourcing individual businessmen whom they can discard once things turn sour. In addition to quietly manipulating and supporting conflicts, they return as defenders of human rights, and seek to prosecute perpetrators – to do all of this they have conscripted an army of journalists and scholars, returned as donors and aid-givers, and turned the political class into compradors accessing entire economies through simple, technocratized routes (development, aid, human rights, democracy, etc.)

In the Congo, the Gertler pillage is technocratized and no one ever questions how a white foreigner owns monopoly rights over natural resources in a war-ridden country. Instead, the situation is captured and debated in technicalities and legalese of courts judgments, licenses or sanctions, and does not involve dismantling this outrightly colonial empire.


BidenDTrounced:
Structural Adjustment as Colonial Adjustment


In a recently published book, Less is More: How Degrowth will Save the World, Jason Hickel tells the story of Structural Adjustment in rivetingly precise details: after independence in the 1950s and 1960s, Hickel writes, newly independent governments rolled out progressive policies to rebuild their economies. They used taxes and subsidies “to protect their domestic industries, improve labour standards and raising workers’ wages. They also invested in public health and education.” Hickel continues that “all of this was meant to reverse the extractive policies of colonialism and improve human welfare – and it was working.” The effect of this was that “average incomes in the global South grew at 3.2% per year in the 1960s and 1970s” which in effect, improved the quality of life in these countries.
As this happened, former colonisers were not pleased at all. These breakthroughs in formerly colonised places had meant, Hickel notes, “LOSING ACCESS TO CHEAP LABOUR, raw materials and captive markets that they had enjoyed under colonialism.” They had to intervene. For about 25 years, they schemed and planned on how to reverse the tide. Using their control over the World Bank and the IMF, they imposed structural adjustment programmes across Latin America, Africa and parts of Asia. Forcefully, SAPs “liberalised the economies of the global South, tearing down protective tariffs and capital controls, cutting wages and environmental laws, slashing social spending and privatising public goods – all to break open profitable new frontiers for foreign capital and restore access to cheap labour and resources,” Hickel concludes.



BidenDTrounced:
Elizabeth II bestowed a knighthood on President Mugabe, which was clearly a subtle bribe to get him to ignore land reforms, a burning issue at independence in 1980. For 20 years, Mugabe remained a darling of the West, never antagonising white farmers and instead, becoming ensnared in endless negotiations with them and the UK government to find a less radical or less painful way to allow them to keep their colonial loot. Even when the British government gave Mugabe money to buy land for redistribution, the white landowners refused to sell. Caving into pressure in the late 1990s from inside his own party and from former combatants, Mugabe then took a hard stance on land. Shamelessly, Zimbabwe’s former colonisers took back their bribe, and the media and academia competed in badmouthing Mugabe. On the heels of UK government sanctions, were tons of monsterizing scholarship and media coverage.

In nearby South Africa, the gift for his political-economic naivety was the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Nelson Mandela which was working wonders. Mandela admitted in his memoir, Long Walk to Freedom, that he had blatantly defied the ANC’s resolutions in his ignorant and childlike pursuit of political independence. In effect, he left South Africa’s entire economy in the hands of white South Africans. As Zizek puts it, if Mandela had really won, he would never have become a darling of the West — and of the world.
Similarly, before Kagame started taking a hard stance towards the West, he had been their darling for years. He is now their monster. (Published on July 1, 2021.)

Ever wondered why with all Museveni’s crimes, he is yet to become a monster? Well, Museveni is in Somalia, Central African Republic, South Sudan, and in the Democratic Republic of Congo – doing mercenary work for the western democracy merchandising imperialists. He is providing the calm under which foreign mining companies enjoy Congolese resources, and also providing the environment under which European pirates enjoy Somalia’s marine resources. Thus, despite his well-documented crimes on Ugandans, he is yet to make the label, a monster.

The point I am making here is that a huge percentage of scholarship and media in the West reflects the foreign policies of their states. This is true not just in the so-called “formerly colonised” places, but it is also true of Europe’s and America’s relations across the world where their exploitative tentacles are being resisted. Mainstream scholarship, and media, which is largely ‘a bunch of frauds’ as Noam Chomsky puts it, will often find the ‘ethical imperative’ to blast leaderships in Russia, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Bolivia, Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, China, and even helpless Palestine — as long as their multinationals face stiff opposition attempting to monopolise the economies of these countries.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 4:13am On Apr 21, 2023
BidenDTrounced:

As a matter of "leaks", resources rich Africa was next on the Russian agenda. But thanks to the sacrifices of Jewlensky and the benevolent West, Russia is unable to invade Nigeria. Tinubu has traveled to Ukraine to thank the Nazi militant for fighting for our freedom.








There are some misguided folks like gambojimeta (see attached) who feel that speaking out against neocolonialism is a campaign to ask Nigerians to remain confined within the boundaries of the nation. On the contrary, there are speakers like pansophist who drops tips on immigration.
My interests is a developed and prosperous Africa where ordinary Africans have the resources to travel and explore the world without having to dehumanize themselves.
We can do this by weaning ourselves from the influence of the same entities that have made your native land inhabitable for the reasons stated here:

"Corruption as it is is a legacy of Western colonialism. After years of looting, stealing, maiming and brigandage, the West was able to create a 'garden' for themselves and sustain this garden by the continuous subjugation and exploitation of those condemned to the jungle"

Origins of Corruption In Africa
https://panafricanreview.rw/origins-of-corruption-in-africa/

Colonialism is alive and well in Africa, but goes by many nice names


https://roape.net/2022/01/26/colonialism-is-alive-and-well-in-africa-but-goes-by-many-nice-names/

Look at Saudi Arabia for example

"Population estimates are seen to have a very small diaspora, mainly because the KSA provides native Saudis with more than adequate welfare benefits, removing the need to live and work in other developed countries.
There are a variety of reasons why so few Saudi Arabians chose to permanently live to the United States. Among these were the wealth of Saudi Arabia, the religious faith and pride of Saudis who found it difficult to maintain an Islamic lifestyle in the United States, and a lack of factors motivating citizens to leave Saudi Arabia. The limited number of marriages between the US and Saudi citizens may also have contributed to the low number of Saudi immigrants and of Saudi American
" Wikipedia...
the West should focus on introducing democracy in Saudi Arabia instead of pillaging developing countries.

The reason I'm relaxing on the RUS - UKR conflict is because the war is over, my aspirations came to fruition much more rapidly than I expected.
The West has receded and declined, we're now in a multipolar world where Yuan is an acceptable alternative to the dollar, sanctions are impotent, the West has been unable to isolate Russia (the West still has embassies in Russia sef...they could communicate with Russia via Nigeria or cnn), the West has been unable to prevent trade between Russia and the relevant stakeholders (China and India).. plus, Nazi Ukraine has lost territory that is comparable to the size of some countries and the West is unable to achieve any of it's intended goals/ambition (the West is incapacitated).

Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by BidenDTrounced: 4:26am On Apr 21, 2023
BidenDTrounced:


There are some misguided folks like gambojimeta (see attached) who feel that speaking out against neocolonialism is a campaign to ask Nigerians to remain confined within the boundaries of the nation. On the contrary, there are speakers like pansophist who drops tips on immigration.
My interests is a developed and prosperous Africa where ordinary Africans have the resources to travel and explore the world without having to dehumanize themselves.
We can do this by weaning ourselves from the influence of the same entities that have made your native land inhabitable for the reasons stated here:

"Corruption as it is is a legacy of Western colonialism. After years of looting, stealing, maiming and brigandage, the West was able to create a 'garden' for themselves and sustain this garden by the continuous subjugation and exploitation of those condemned to the jungle"

Origins of Corruption In Africa
https://panafricanreview.rw/origins-of-corruption-in-africa/

Colonialism is alive and well in Africa, but goes by many nice names


https://roape.net/2022/01/26/colonialism-is-alive-and-well-in-africa-but-goes-by-many-nice-names/

Look at Saudi Arabia for example

"Population estimates are seen to have a very small diaspora, mainly because the KSA provides native Saudis with more than adequate welfare benefits, removing the need to live and work in other developed countries.
There are a variety of reasons why so few Saudi Arabians chose to permanently live to the United States. Among these were the wealth of Saudi Arabia, the religious faith and pride of Saudis who found it difficult to maintain an Islamic lifestyle in the United States, and a lack of factors motivating citizens to leave Saudi Arabia. The limited number of marriages between the US and Saudi citizens may also have contributed to the low number of Saudi immigrants and of Saudi American
" Wikipedia...
the West should focus on introducing democracy in Saudi Arabia instead of pillaging developing countries.

The reason I'm relaxing on the RUS - UKR conflict is because the war is over, my aspirations came to fruition much more rapidly than I expected.
The West has receded and declined, we're now in a multipolar world where Yuan is an acceptable alternative to the dollar, sanctions are impotent, the West has been unable to isolate Russia (the West still has embassies in Russia sef...they could communicate with Russia via Nigeria or cnn), the West has been unable to prevent trade between Russia and the relevant stakeholders (China and India).. plus, Nazi Ukraine has lost territory that is comparable to the size of some countries and the West is unable to achieve any of it's intended goals/ambition (the West is incapacitated).








In addition to this, President Peter Obi, President of Biafra, some parts of Nigeria and commander in chief of obidients worldwide has submitted an application for Africa (yes, he also doubles as the president of Africa) to join NATO. Our enormous natural resources is too dear to allow it to fall into Russian hands. grin


BidenDTrounced:

As a matter of "leaks", resources rich Africa was next on the Russian agenda. But thanks to the sacrifices of Jewlensky and the benevolent West, Russia is unable to invade Nigeria. Tinubu has traveled to Ukraine to thank the Nazi militant for fighting for our freedom.







Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by lawani: 12:15pm On Jun 24, 2023
You can as well say Japan, Germany, South Korea etc were colonized because what is the difference?. Germany was only allowed to reunite in the 90s. There are well respected leaders with integrity from Africa. Many of them. Aminu Kano, Obafemi Awolowo are as popular among their followers as Chairman Mao in China or Lee Kuan Yew in Singapore. The way the Japanese and Germans are different is that they are aligned behind their leadership. There is no ethnic rivalry or people trying to rule people they hate. Can you blame the US or Britain or China or Russia for that?. Then you can't lump all Africa together. Most African countries are like Eastern Europe and Eastern Europe is only better mainly because of a lower dependency ratio. Nigeria in Africa is the outlier and a breakup of the country is the best solution. If you don't break up the country, then the country will have to continue struggling to find its feet and it will be as an English speaking country with local languages at risk of being eradicated.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by IbeOkehie: 6:02pm On Jun 28, 2023
lawani:

Nigeria in Africa is the outlier and a breakup of the country is the best solution. If you don't break up the country, then the country will have to continue struggling to find its feet and it will be as an English speaking country with local languages at risk of being eradicated.

Why exactly is Nigeria still united?

If Unity has been such a bad thing then WHY have the different tribes and their elites continued to go along with a United Nigeria?

I'm curious to know what you think.

Thanks.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by lawani: 7:52pm On Jun 28, 2023
IbeOkehie:


Why exactly is Nigeria still united?

If Unity has been such a bad thing then WHY have the different tribes and their elites continued to go along with a United Nigeria?

I'm curious to know what you think.

Thanks.

Simply because no serious leader has risen to commit self to dismembering the country so far. That is the only reason. It does not take more than meeting the right people in the US and Britain especially and appealing to them.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by mysticwarrior(m): 4:55am On Jun 29, 2023
tensazangetsu20:


Botswana and Namibia are worst than Nigeria even with Nigeria in it's current state
fact.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by panafrican(m): 5:53am On Jun 29, 2023
True.
That is why we need to fight by relying not only on ourselves but also on countries that can help mitigate or annihilate colonialism
.
You must invest in manufacturing , develop inter-African road infrastructure, and trade.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Martinez39s(m): 6:32pm On Jul 01, 2023
Pansophist and his interesting posts.
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by pansophist(m): 12:27am On Jul 05, 2023
Martinez39s:
Pansophist and his interesting posts.

Did you agree with the post that colonialism did not end?
Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Martinez39s(m): 9:55pm On Jul 10, 2023
pansophist:


Did you agree with the post that colonialism did not end?
Sure. The funniest and most deplorable one is our mindset of according greater importance to the European traditional way of wedding than our traditional wedding.

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Re: Colonialism Didn't End, It Only Transformed. Prove Me Wrong. by Kipaji: 9:19am On Jul 30, 2023
tommy589:
France created CFA, prints CFA and still controls CFA for most French speaking countries. Where is the freedom when the puppet masters are still at play everywhere

There is no freedom.
Furthermore, this monetary control also furthers their intellectual control. While other countries' currencies show some remarkable people in their history (King Sejon on the Korean won bill, Benjamin Franklin on the US dollar bill, ...), the CFA shows nothing. No Um Nyobe, no Ouandié, no Lumumba... Just useless images of agriculture, buildings, and so on. They don't want the African youth to be aware as revolutions always start in the mind.
I was disappointed when new CFA bills came out some months ago but without any historical figures.

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