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MaxInDHouse:
You keep saying people should read our book when we that have studied it from cover to cover are telling you what's in there but you're arguing blindly!

Well this is what is written in the opening words of the Bible book of Revelation:

A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he (Jesus) sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John! Revelations 1:1

So i ask you Mr atheist, who is talking (revealing) to John here in the Bible book of Revelation?

And was Jesus literally talking or using symbolism (signs) ?

Bros please read your bible. In Revelations 20. 10, no one was talking. John was seeing and he wrote what he saw. He was not being told. He was seeing for himself.
Now let's read the bible oga.

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened

All these are verses in Revelations 20. You notice John say "I Saw'. Oga you tell a parable you don't see a parable.

Once again, you are welcome.

MaxInDHouse:
Cut off from among those in existence!

No they were cut off from the righteous. It never said cut off from those in existence.
No guess work please.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're just an idiot please stop quoting me if you don't have anything to back up your assertions!

you fool asked for it first and i gave you but you ignored it. Go and dig. You are the one who want to cure your ignorance. The ppl of the book know and they are your teachers - isaiah 44:7

bobestman:
i will not tell you again. Go and find it. Knowledge is not given to dogs. They don't know the value.

Shame on you!

Jesus never had a wife because according to God's laws a man must take good care of his wife and children both physically, morally, emotionally, mentally and spiritually, for Jesus to leave the planet at the age of 33 years it makes no PRACTICAL SENSE leaving his responsibility for anyone most especially a wife and child.

So if you lack common sense i can share some with you, go and tell whoever is feeding you lies that you've gotten a better and wiser teacher of God's word!

tctrills:
Bros please read your bible. In Revelations 20. 10, no one was talking. John was seeing and he wrote what he saw. He was not being told. He was seeing for himself.
Now let's read the bible oga.

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened

All these are verses in Revelations 20. You notice John say "I Saw'. Oga you tell a parable you don't see a parable.

Once again, you are welcome.

You just want to argue blindly!

Who is the person that sent his angels to reveal all these things to John by signs? Revelations 1:1

tctrills:
No they were cut off from the righteous. It never said cut off from those in existence.
No guess work please.

Neither did it say cut off from the righteous.

Cut off simply means removed from the picture!


For only the upright will reside in the earth, And the blameless will remain in it. As for the wicked, they will be cut off from the earth, And the treacherous will be torn away from it! Proverbs 2:21-22

bobestman:
you fool asked for it first and i gave you but you ignored it. Go and dig. You are the one who want to cure your ignorance. The ppl of the book know and they are your teachers - isaiah 44:7

"Who is there like me? Let him call out and tell it and prove it to me! From the time I established the people of long ago, Let them tell both the things to come And what will yet happen"

Idiot! Where is it written that the Messiah has a wife and son?

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Shame on you!

Jesus never had a wife because according to God's laws a man must take good care of his wife and children both physically, morally, emotionally, mentally and spiritually, for Jesus to leave the planet at the age of 33 years it makes no PRACTICAL SENSE leaving his responsibility for anyone most especially a wife and child.

So if you lack common sense i can share some with you, go and tell whoever is feeding you lies that you've gotten a better and wiser teacher of God's word! [/quote]you want to teach someone who know what the founder of your organisation don't know. I will sit him like a baby and teach him what he has not heard since he was born. Even in this our generation, a man of 20 can have more than one children let alone 2000 plus yrs ago when they marry earlier. Every god man is incomplete without a wife. This what we know not believe. The vatican played a fast one on you guys

Azrael001:
😅😅😅
Wetin you dey talk?

Of all the monikers that anyone can choose in the world, you chose Azrael, and then you still had the effrontery to quote me?

bobestman:
you want to teach someone who know what the founder of your organisation don't know. I will sit him like a baby and teach him what he has not heard since he was born. Even in this our generation, a man of 20 can have more than one children let alone 2000 plus yrs ago when they marry earlier. Every god man is incomplete without a wife. This what we know not believe. The vatican played a fast one on you guys

Guy stop this your madness!

Jesus never had a wife or Son.

So keep shut!

Kobojunkie:
1. What I instead said was that God ALLOWED it mentioning that I believe it serves a purpose. God's Word doesn't depend on the book nor is there some expressed need for the book but He allowed it to be written by the hands of men.

Something else to consider is this. If a book was written by God's own hands--- perfect, without "errors and contradictions", then no man would be able to touch let alone read from it given that God is Holy and men aren't. Such a book would be of absolutely no value to the sinners(the unholy) whom He came to call to Himself.

So you're saying the Bible wasn't written by yahweh but man? So it wasn't divinely inspired?
Why would Yahweh write a book only he alone can read? Besides does a god need to read books?

LordReed:
Really? Men benefit from being deceived?

Is it appropriate to allow my child to lie and continue in error and misconception? You mean if you are a parent you let your child lie and continue in error and misconception?

I warned you about this Junkie. Following his convo thread is making me lol. Dude's head is seriously messed

Kobojunkie:
1. I remember pointing out that it served to misdirect men so they do not end up hanging themselves with God's very own truth.

2. The problem is you cannot beat/wash/bleach their nature out of them by using your own "error and contradictions"-prone mentality. it is impossible. No matter what you do as a parent, I can guarantee you that your children whom you pretend to love more than others in the world will also end up "error and contradictions" prone like the rest of us. So, again, that is why I pointed out that your parent-child analogy does not work at all in this.

What does the boldest mean, ffs? Kobo are you on some new stuff that is yet to be figured out by science?

Kobojunkie:
1. I thought you would understand that given you were once from a religious background. Those who hang themselves with God's Truth have their end in Eternal damnation. And as Jesus Christ explained, they are those who are enemies of God. They know God's Truth/Law and reject it to assert their way instead in HIs Kingdom.

2.

So Yahweh allowed the deception to continue so peeps can go to hell?
Damn! This is some heavenly kush

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ revealed by way of several parables — the parable of Wheat and Tares for one— that God's enemies are those who even after coming to a realization of the truth of God, remain adamant. So, all those who are misled by the "errors and contradictions" cannot be enemies of God since they have no knowledge of God's Truth, to begin with. And they are, in a way, "saved" from eternal damnation by their confusion.

I thought u said the Bible is a deceptive piece written by man to deceive man. So why is Jesus using this deception to propagate his truth?

MaxInDHouse:
Isn't it funny seeing how fearful athiests are at the mention of the title "GOD"?

Someone said he doesn't believe God exists yet he is scared when others mention the title!

Jaephoenix always make mockery calling God sky daddy and comparing God with spaghetti and noodles yet he's really worried that the most peaceful group on planet earth says little babies (including their own) are enemies of their God.

Abeg if they're really intelligent why worry over what people who will never lift up weapons against anyone thinks?
Surely they're scared hearing what JWs have to say because they know our own God is real unlike the religions threatening them with fire they tremble at the utterances of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Nigga I don't care what you think. I'm contributing to just another discourse on Nairaland. So if you Max contribute in an argument about Muslims or Islam, then you're worried about them? Are you this cretarded?

Kobojunkie:
1. No dodging here! Just wondering why you remain confused about what is clearly stated.

Lol. You're the one confused here. Read what you mean, rephrase it and post it again

When you guys choose to make a mockery of religionists simply because your false religions have failed you i just laugh at you.
The purpose for which you're hear always active is because you're annoyed hearing and seeing people practicing religion when you think you've figured out everything about religion and concluded that it's all a scam.
But whether you like it or not that's their own personal choice of living their lives and since they aren't hurting you in anyway you make yourself a fanatic complaining about their decision to continue with what you abandoned!

Languages often course confusion most especially when you don't understand what those speaking meant.
When we JWs say a person is an enemy of our God instead of arguing about our language which we speak among ourselves your own meaning like the OP it's better you ask us what we meant.
The video the OP presented is meant for JWs alone not unbelievers but the OP who doesn't understand our language {Zephaniah 3:9} picked an excerpt to call you people thinking it's a crime and all of you fell for his stupidity.

Enemies of our own God are to be treated with love and care {Mark 12:31} we must do our utmost to reach them with message of hope {Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Romans 10:13-15} so that they can mend their ways and become not just friends but adopted children of our God! John 1:11-12

So whether you understand our language or not it doesn't stop us from speaking it because it's not meant for you it's meant for us and we perfectly understand our language.

jaephoenix:
I warned you about this Junkie. Following his convo thread is making me lol. Dude's head is seriously messed

jaephoenix:
Nigga I don't care what you think. I'm contributing to just another discourse on Nairaland. So if you Max contribute in an argument about Muslims or Islam, then you're worried about them? Are you this cretarded?

Ọmọ you're scared and it's obvious!

You heard JWs call little babies "enemies of our God" and the next thing is you concluded we wanted them killed whereas we take the best care of our little babies including babies of strangers we meet in the society.

So you're just stupid concluding in your head what you can't decipher instead of asking us for the meaning in our own language! Zephaniah 3:9

MaxInDHouse:
He never claimed to be that's why you need to know the difference between what the Bible says about Himself and what churchgoers are saying about Him!

So what exactly are the attributes of Yahweh?
By the way, what does this passage mean
"Whenever our heart condemns us, for God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything" 1 John 3:20

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You[b], Lord, who know the hearts of all men,[/b] show which one of these two You have chosen

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men

Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do

Psalms 147:5 Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit

MaxInDHouse:
When you guys choose to make a mockery of religionists simply because your false religions have failed you i just laugh at you.
The purpose for which you're hear always active is because you're annoyed hearing and seeing people practicing religion when you think you've figured out everything about religion and concluded that it's all a scam.
But whether you like it or not that's their own personal choice of living their lives and since they aren't hurting you in anyway you make yourself a fanatic complaining about their decision to continue with what you abandoned!

Languages often course confusion most especially when you don't understand what those speaking meant.
When we JWs say a person is an enemy of our God instead of arguing about our language which we speak among ourselves your own meaning like the OP it's better you ask us what we meant.
The video the OP presented is meant for JWs alone not unbelievers but the OP who doesn't understand our language {Zephaniah 3:9} picked an excerpt to call you people thinking it's a crime and all of you fell for his stupidity.

Enemies of our own God are to be treated with love and care {Mark 12:31} we must do our utmost to reach them with message of hope {Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Romans 10:13-15} so that they can mend their ways and become not just friends but adopted children of our God! John 1:11-12

So whether you understand our language or not it doesn't stop us from speaking it because it's not meant for you it's meant for us and we perfectly understand our language.

From your analogy, that means anytime you Max engage other Christians, Muslims or atheists on Nairaland threads, then it means you are angry and annoyed other people have figured out your religion, and living life properly
I don't want to catch you in those threads again. Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're scared and it's obvious!

You heard JWs call little babies "enemies of our God" and the next thing is you concluded we wanted them killed whereas we take the best care of our little babies including babies of strangers we meet in the society.

So you're just stupid concluding in your head what you can't decipher instead of asking us for the meaning in our own language! Zephaniah 3:9

You can hate on your babies for all I care. Murder them even. Not my problem

jaephoenix:
So what exactly are the attributes of Yahweh?
By the way, what does this passage mean
"Whenever our heart condemns us, for God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything" 1 John 3:20

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You[b], Lord, who know the hearts of all men,[/b] show which one of these two You have chosen

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men

Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do

Psalms 147:5 Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit

The book you're quoting belongs to us so instead of picking excerpt and trying to wrap your head around it just ask us for it's meaning.

Our God concentrates on His plans to redeem obedient mankind so all things having to do with those within that plan He knows!

But as for people outside His plans it's angels that are going up and down to bring Him reports of what is happening outside God's plans. That's why God could see and know everything about Abraham but when it comes to Lot and his family in the land of Sodom and Gomorrah God had to send angels there to find out if the reports brought to Him are so! Genesis 18:20-21

So go back and read each verse you quoted but this time (carefully) you will find out that it's about those having faith and are within God's plans not just everybody!

jaephoenix:
From your analogy, that means anytime you Max engage other Christians, Muslims or atheists on Nairaland threads, then it means you are angry and annoyed other people have figured out your religion, and living life properly
I don't want to catch you in those threads again. Thank you

The highlighted is hilarious indeed!

They're living life properly while spending billions of dollars which supposed to be diverted into production of food and other necessities to provide a good standard of living for their people but building destructive weapons and spending billions to train their children on how to kill people.

Ọmọ they are surely living life properly!

jaephoenix:
You can hate on your babies for all I care. Murder them even. Not my problem

Humbly request a Bible study and stop being stupid!

The Bible tells you that God's people will speak pure language among themselves {Zephaniah 3:9} ordinarily what meant LOVE in one language may translate to HATE in another language a wise person will use discernment to figure out what some people meant by reading their actions. If JWs say babies are enemies of their God but are taking the best care of babies then it means you don't grasp what they meant by that word!
So instead of stupidly concluding on what you don't know, ask!

MaxInDHouse:
The book you're quoting belongs to us so instead of picking excerpt and trying to wrap your head around it just ask us for it's meaning.

Our God concentrates on His plans to redeem obedient mankind so all things having to do with those within that plan He knows!

But as for people outside His plans it's angels that are going up and down to bring Him reports of what is happening outside God's plans. That's why God could see and know everything about Abraham but when it comes to Lot and his family in the land of Sodom and Gomorrah God had to send angels there to find out if the reports brought to Him are so! Genesis 18:20-21

So go back and read each verse you quoted but this time (carefully) you will find out that it's about those having faith and are within God's plans not just everybody!

So you're saying there are events that aren't Yahweh's plans? So the devil can plot some schemes and surprise good ol' yahweh

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is hilarious indeed!

They're living life properly while spending billions of dollars which supposed to be diverted into production of food and other necessities to provide a good standard of living for their people but building destructive weapons and spending billions to train their children on how to kill people.

Ọmọ they are surely living life properly!

I don't care about your views on them. I don't want to see you in any non-JW thread. Thank you

jaephoenix:
So you're saying there are events that aren't Yahweh's plans? So the devil can plot some schemes and surprise good ol' yahweh

YES!
That's exactly what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah!

jaephoenix:
I don't care about your views on them. I don't want to see you in any non-JW thread. Thank you

Now i know i've been chatting with the same person!
So this is another account you're using shey?

Ọmọ i can chat with anyone on this forum you are free to avoid me but telling me not to chat with others that's beyond you!

MaxInDHouse:
Humbly request a Bible study and stop being stupid!

The Bible tells you that God's people will speak pure language among themselves {Zephaniah 3:9} ordinarily what meant LOVE in one language may translate to HATE in another language a wise person will use discernment to figure out what some people meant by reading their actions. If JWs say babies are enemies of their God but are taking the best care of babies then it means you don't grasp what they meant by that word!
So instead of stupidly concluding on what you don't know, ask!

Bible study from JWs?
Bible study from people that says a parent should watch on while her baby dies instead of doing exchange blood transfusion for neonatal jaundice?
Bible study from people that forces a man to watch on while his wife dies from post partum hemorrhage due to uterine atony, and abhor a blood transfusion?
I have lost many patients like that. Even though they were JWs (and cretarded like you) they dont deserve to die, and I can't bear to watch them die, but my hands are tied.
So no bro. If I'm cretarded to try religion again, i definitely won't be a JW

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
That's exactly what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah!

So you're saying some parts of the Bible lied about yahweh's attributes?

MaxInDHouse:
Now i know i've been chatting with the same person!
So this is another account you're using shey?

Ọmọ i can chat with anyone on this forum you are free to avoid me but telling me not to chat with others that's beyond you!

Which other account am I using? Are you high already this early morning?
Dude you said I'm angry at JWs by engaging you on this thread. I agree. But please allow non-JWs to do their thing in other threads. Cos if you do, that means you're angry at us too