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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:27am On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
Are children still gifts and heritage of God or did the Adamic sin stop them from being God's gift and heritage.
Note: psalms 127.3 was written hundreds of years after the Adamic sin.
Also, Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.
ADD Deuteronomy 7:2 & verses of the holy scriptures in the screenshots into your skull.

You guys always embrace daftness. cheesy

Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 11:43am On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
ADD Deuteronomy 7:2 & verses of the holy scriptures in the screenshots into your skull.

You guys always embrace daftness. cheesy
Boss, you have shown 3 different verses that do not even attempt the simple question so let me ask the question once more in case you did not understand.
Psalms 127.3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
Now, are children God's heritage (special possession), his reward (gift), and his enemies at the same time?
Please explain how Deuteronomy 7:2 answers the question.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:45am On Apr 17, 2023
bobestman:
MUMU. Are the ppl of Antioch who assumed them to be christians God? The messiah and his disciples follow the jewish ways. They are not christians. The sect they followed was called Nazarene. Paul was their leader - Acts 24:5. The disciples were hebrews or jews. Paul was a hebrew from the tribe of benjamin. Which tribe are JWs? Any converted gentiles join them in the jewish customs. They kept the sabbath, feasts and passover. Are you learning?

Oga, DECEIVING YOURSELF grin grin
Your FALSE claims are NOT in your Bible.
Go and write your own Bible.

Acts 24:10,13-14, Paul disgraced your LYING
. grin
"We have found this man to be a troublemaker who is constantly stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the cult known as the Nazarenes.


10The governor then motioned for Paul to speak. Paul said, “I know, sir, that you have been a judge of Jewish affairs for many years, so I gladly present my defense before you . 13.These men cannot prove the things they accuse me of doing.

14“But I admit that I follow the Way, which they call a cult. I worship the God of our ancestors, and I firmly believe the Jewish law and everything written in the prophets"
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 11:46am On Apr 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The ability to reproduce has been GIVEN to Adam and all his descendants that's the GIFT but then as descendants of Adam all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so death rules as King among Adam's descendants {Romans 5:17} JEHOVAH is not the God of the dead but of the living {Luke 20:38} only those who have built a relationship with Him are living to Him because their names has been written in His memory book {Malachi 3:16 compare to John 11:25} but all others including babies who never built a relationship with Him are DEAD from God's viewpoint! Luke 9:60

So even though all human lives belongs to God (not only babies) yet all are His enemies until they're able to build a relationship with Him like Abel did and His name was written as the first Jehovah's Witness among Adam's descendants! Hebrews 11:4 smiley
So the JW conclusion is that all children are God's gifts and heritage and all children belong to him yet they are His enemies. Am I quoting you right?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:51am On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
Boss, you have shown 3 different verses that do not even attempt the simple question so let me ask the question once more in case you did not understand.
Psalms 127.3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
Now, are children God's heritage (special possession), his reward (gift), and his enemies at the same time?
Please explain how Deuteronomy 7:2 answers the question.
When Jehovah your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you—, 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy"


Drive out the the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, destroy them totally.

Deuteronomy also said "put to the sword women and children."

Oga,use the brain God gave you grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 11:55am On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
When Jehovah your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you—, 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy"


Drive out the the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, destroy them totally.

Oga,use the brain God gave you grin
I see your point is clear You do not believe that Children are God's heritage and reward. You believe they are his enemies. At least, you are more direct than MaxInDHouse. He seems to believe all 3. I love your confused honesty though.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:56am On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
So the JW conclusion is that all children are God's gifts and heritage and all children belong to him yet they are His enemies. Am I quoting you right?
Put to put to the sword women and children."
Allow Judges 21:10 to guide you too.

It is foolishness to cling to Psalm 127:3 when Judges 21:10 is in your Bible.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:01pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
I see your point is clear You do not believe that Children are God's heritage and reward. You believe they are his enemies. At least, you are more direct than MaxInDHouse. He seems to believe all 3. I love your confused honesty though.
Max has already explained to you.
God loves the children of his servants , they are the children of Psalms 127:3.

God does NOT love the children HIS servants destroyed at Judges 21:10.
God does not love the children that the flood of Noah's day destroyed, Genesis 7:20-23.
God does not love the children of Evildoers in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Oga, receive SENSE !
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:06pm On Apr 17, 2023
bobestman:
Ignorance is your name. In your Isa 43, first read verse 1 to understand the ppl the message is for. The disciples and the messiah are not christians. They were jews. They kept the sabbath, passover, feasts etc christians don't do it. Ppl not God assumed them to be christians. The letter "j" is just 400yrs old or more and these things are older than 5000yrs so the name of God didn't start from j and so it is no jehowah. Try another lie. Guess work won't help you
Acts 24:13-14, Paul debunks your fallacy.

Which Christians dey offer animal sacrifices?

Abeg carry your Mumu outta here. grin

grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:10pm On Apr 17, 2023
correctguy101:
huh huh

This guy sef. You no meek at all... angry

I suspect years later, you'll be an apostated JW grin grin
Nah 1 Corinthians 6:7-9 dey pain you.

Any sin you can imagine, check your Bible from Genesis to Revelation, Jehovah's servants have done them all.
Continue WAILING grin grin grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:11pm On Apr 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
Not true, according to Max
You have no evidence.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 12:16pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
Max has already explained to you.
God loves the children of his servants , they are the children of Psalms 127:3.

God does NOT love the children HIS servants destroyed at Judges 21:10.
God does not love the children that the flood of Noah's day destroyed, Genesis 7:20-23.
God does not love the children of Evildoers in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Oga, receive SENSE !
I love this, you guys are actually teaching contrary things. So you are saying that the children of God's servants are his heritage and reward and not the children of evildoers right?

So basically, some babies are friends of God while others are his enemies?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 12:18pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
Put to put to the sword women and children."
Allow Judges 21:10 to guide you too.

It is foolishness to cling to Psalm 127:3 when Judges 21:10 is in your Bible.
I am not clinging to any verse, I only asked you to explain the verse but you seem to be running from it.
Now don't forget that it was also God that took the life of Moses. Was Moses an enemy of God?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:28pm On Apr 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
Yes they are. Reason why some charity organizations decline those donations
Your claim is no proof.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:31pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
I am not clinging to any verse, I only asked you to explain the verse but you seem to be running from it.
Now don't forget that it was also God that took the life of Moses. Was Moses an enemy of God?
God took Moses life,Can you question God?

Is God a friend of the children of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Is God a friend of the children of Noah's day?

You don't want the truth in your Bible.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:34pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
I love this, you guys are actually teaching contrary things. So you are saying that the children of God's servants are his heritage and reward and not the children of evildoers right?

So basically, some babies are friends of God while others are his enemies?
Judges 21:10 & Genesis 7:20-23, the truth there is unpalatable to your heart.
Oga delete them from your Bible.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 12:42pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
Judges 21:10 & Genesis 7:20-23, the truth there is unpalatable to your heart.
Oga delete them from your Bible.
Oga, I fully understand Judges 21:10 & Genesis 7:20-23 but I only asked you to explain Psalms 127.3. I have no issue with the verses you quoted above
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 12:46pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
God took Moses life,Can you question God?

Is God a friend of the children of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Is God a friend of the children of Noah's day?

You don't want the truth in your Bible.
Now you are using your sense and I like it. God took Moses life, He took the lives of children of Sodom and Gomorrah and the children of Noah's day so that's no big deal. Now what makes a 2-month-old baby in Sodom and Gomorrah God's enemy? Since we see that God takes the lives of both his friends and enemies.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:46pm On Apr 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
Lol, this guy. You're really struggling at understanding English language.
Which bible verse did christians confess to be JWs?
Gentiles & Jews bearing God's name,Acts 15:7-17 & Isaiah 43:10 (ASV)


Abeg carry your Mumu outta here.

Faithless miscreants wan change Bible grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 12:54pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
Now you are using your sense and I like it. God took Moses life, He took the lives of children of Sodom and Gomorrah and the children of Noah's day so that's no big deal. Now what makes a 2-month-old baby in Sodom and Gomorrah God's enemy? Since we see that God takes the lives of both his friends and enemies.
Hebrews 10:35,39 & 11:26,God took Moses life due to disobedience, but Moses has a reward of everlasting life in God's kingdom, because of his faith.

God executed Judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah , adults and children, faithless miscreants.
Sodom and Gomorrah case is closed.
That's the difference..
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 1:04pm On Apr 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
These are screenshots of costs of endocopic/laparoscopic myomectomy.
Now this is the cost of the op alone. Doesn't cover specialist consultation fees 50k, investigations 40k, theater fees 30k, consumables 30k. Add it to this cost and you'll see what this clown says costs less than 500k
Nah only medicine certs.com dey do EM Surgery for Nigeria?


Nah every medical info dey internet in this country?


You may have certificate (clown disrespectful to his potential clients) but you don't have SABIFICATE. grin cheesy
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 1:09pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
Hebrews 10:35,39 & 11:26,God took Moses life due to disobedience, but Moses has a reward of everlasting life in God's kingdom, because of his faith.

God executed Judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah , adults and children, faithless miscreants.
Sodom and Gomorrah case is closed.
That's the difference..
No sir you just opened the case. You only raised many more questions.

So please for what disobedience did God take the life of the 2 month-old babies in Sodom and Gomorrah. Let's start from here. Was it for their disobedience or that of their parents?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 1:12pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
No sir you just opened the case. You only raised many more questions.

So please for what disobedience did God take the life of the 2 month-old babies in Sodom and Gomorrah. Let's start from here. Was it for their disobedience or that of their parents?
What disobedience did your forebears commit to inherit the punishment for Adam?

Your MUMU dun do,abeg you.
grin grin

Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 1:15pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
What disobedience did your forebears commit to inherit the punishment for Adam?

Your MUMU dun do,abeg you.
grin grin
Are you saying that the 2 months old Children of Sodom and Gomorrah inherited their parent's sins? And man does not suffer for the sins of Adam and Eve we would all be punished for our own sins.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by correctguy101(m): 1:45pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
Nah 1 Corinthians 6:7-9 dey pain you.

Any sin you can imagine, check your Bible from Genesis to Revelation, Jehovah's servants have done them all.
Continue WAILING grin grin grin
Pain me? huh

You sound delusional, yeye man grin

SMH
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:27pm On Apr 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You guys are just lying to your own souls! smiley

Ordinary illustration you can't grasp yet you're poised for arguments.

When i mentioned living creature with flesh, fire and survival of course a physicist knows what i meant, it's not logical to say a living creature with flesh can survive inside fire because fire consumes. If the soul of business is the customer that means an entrepreneur's major concern is the customer so if the businessman now discover that anything could hinder customers from patronizing his products or services he will do everything manly possible to prevent it.
But now someone who supposed to be sane is claiming a businessman invested his money in the production of some goods and at the same time spending billions of dollars to print magazines and books plus training people all over the earth to go out there discouraging potential customers from patronizing his own product! embarassed

I don't think there's any reason to continue in such a discussion because it doesn't make any sense logically! grin
Logic has never been your favorite suit, bro grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:32pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
You have no evidence.
Have you been reading his posts or you have comprehension issues?
You didn't see where he said criminals would be dealt in-house. And from what I see, that is exactly what you JWs are doing
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:33pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
I love this, you guys are actually teaching contrary things. So you are saying that the children of God's servants are his heritage and reward and not the children of evildoers right?

So basically, some babies are friends of God while others are his enemies?
This Janosky guy has removed every doubt from my mind that he's daft, every time he opens his mouth
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:48pm On Apr 17, 2023
tctrills:
So the JW conclusion is that all children are God's gifts and heritage and all children belong to him yet they are His enemies. Am I quoting you right?
Quote God's word and explain to yourself!

All have sinned (including all the babies in the world) and fallen short of God's glory! Romans 6:23

So go and figure it out yourself! wink
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 2:52pm On Apr 17, 2023
Janosky:
Your claim is no proof.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-epstein-charity-idUSKBN0L51G720150201
This is an example of a charity org that rejects some fundings
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:56pm On Apr 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
Logic has never been your favorite suit, bro grin
Sit yourself there's no need arguing with you because you're the same person i have been avoiding! wink
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by oteneaaron(op): 3:03pm On Apr 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-epstein-charity-idUSKBN0L51G720150201
This is an example of a charity org that rejects some fundings
This is interesting.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't care where the money comes from.

I'm sure if they were in the shoes of that charity organization you mentioned above, they definitely wouldn't mind.

Even if the money comes from the sale of weapons of mass destruction or from a Gambling Authority, they don't care.

For Jehovah's Witnesses, the end always justifies the means.
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