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43Ronin:
I am expecting answers from everyone that is a practising Christian including Maxindhouse, kobojunkie, etc.
thanks

Courz:
Help me ask them. According to them in this thread, as long as that child or Baby didn't get baptised to be a JW, That Baby or child will be destroyed at Armaggedon.

This is a lie perpetrated by enemies of God's organization!

Many unbaptized students of the Bible will not be destroyed at Armageddon!

The only reason why Armageddon will destroy many is failure to observe God's work as it's going on in their neighbourhood. JWs will come around knocking on doors to speak with people whoever give them a listening ear will be allowed to express his or her faith so if you know the organization of the true God then you will be in the best position to tell them you already know God's organization and present the fine fruit such organization is producing {Matthew 7:16-18} failure to do so means you believe God will approve all religions as long as an individual has good manners no matter the religion he belongs to, with such mindset you have judged yourself because from that moment you must not speak against any religion after all you believe anyone could be saved if he or she has good manners so your mindset is what God will use to judge you at Armageddon as you treat everyone the same way no matter their religion! Matthew 7:1-4

But if you're of the opinion that some religions are evil then you must be able to present the one and only religion practicing pure worship because that's what God told the Israelites: all other religions are false except the religion based on the Mosaic laws. There's no sitting on the fence you can't condemn any religion if you don't belong to the God of Israel who presented just one as pure. So you must know the one and only pure worship.

Now those who will be spared at Armageddon are: people who have studied the scriptures with Jehovah's Witnesses and dedicate their lives to Jehovah then always associating with worshipers of Jehovah {Hebrews 10:24-25} anyone who humbled himself or herself to give JWs the opportunity to discuss with him or her from the Bible {Matthew 10:11-15} their names will be written by angels {Malachi 3:16} sent to accompany JWs on their preaching and teaching campaign! Revelations 14:6

Children of JWs who are also studying the Bible will be spared even though they're still young as long as they're attending meetings with God's people {Hebrews 10:24-25} even though they are still very young the faith of their parents will serve as a shield over them {1Corinthians 7:14} as they're also attending our meetings and participating so every JW is anticipating seeing his or her child comment at our meetings because angels are taking note of all those in attendance as well as their participation! Malachi 3:16

So anyone outside this setting will be KILLED at Armageddon! Revelations 21:8

tctrills:
Its ok if you don't have the answers but if you conflict the scriptures I would point it out

Go and question other religions then see if all their doctrines will go down well with you, but if out of all the religions claiming Christians you can't vouch for any as the one and only group practicing Christianity then you're lying to your own soul!

tctrills:
You are wrong again.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

John the Baptist, Jacob, Samuel, and Jeremiah were never commanded to go and preach to people of other nations.
WHY because they are children of Jacob born, bread and brought up with God's laws which is the laws of their country so God chose them to speak with their own people not outsiders! Hebrews 1:1
It's Jesus and his disciples that were sent to go and convert people of other nations who have nothing to do with the Mosaic laws but having laws of their different nations! Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

Courz:
Help me ask them. According to them in this thread, as long as that child or Baby didn't get baptised to be a JW, That Baby or child will be destroyed at Armaggedon.

For me, such a decision is left for Jesus to judge. Knowing Jesus for who he is as the Best Judge, he will never hold a Baby accountable for sins he or she never committed.

Courz IBERIBEIST,did Jesus Christ @Matthew24:38-39 commend what his Father did @Genesis7:20-23?

@ John 12:49,whose command did Jesus obey?

Courz IBERIBEISM is extra beyond ordinary.

MaxInDHouse:
John the Baptist, Jacob, Samuel, and Jeremiah were never commanded to go and preach to people of other nations.
WHY because they are children of Jacob born, bread and brought up with God's laws which is the laws of their country so God chose them to speak with their own people not outsiders! Hebrews 1:1
It's Jesus and his disciples that were sent to go and convert people of other nations who have nothing to do with the Mosaic laws but having laws of their different nations! Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

Are you confused here. You claim that children are God's enemies then I give you examples of children that had relationship with God from the womb then you claim that salvation is only for the Jews. What exactly is your point?
Are you saying that God is only friends with Jewish babies and enemies with other babies.
Like only Jewish babies go to heaven? Is that your gospel?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and question other religions then see if all their doctrines will go down well with you, but if out of all the religions claiming Christians you can't vouch for any as the one and only group practicing Christianity then you're lying to your own soul!

That's between me and my soul. But as for this platform I would continue to do what I do. Leave me and my soul to God ok

Janosky:
Courz IBERIBEIST,did Jesus Christ @Matthew24:38-39 commend what his Father did @Genesis7:20-23?

@ John 12:49,whose command did Jesus obey?

Courz IBERIBEISM is extra beyond ordinary.

Watchtower just released a new Morning worship video in their website that talks about the Governing body likened to the Voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to the authority and Voice of Jesus.

So, I ask, is Jesus Fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and capable of making errors in decisions and directions like the Governing body? If so, as The Word of God who speaks for his Father, doesn't that mean that God is fallible, not inspired and is capable of making mistakes in decisions and directions?

tctrills:
Are you confused here. You claim that children are God's enemies then I give you examples of children that had relationship with God from the womb then you claim that salvation is only for the Jews. What exactly is your point?
Are you saying that God is only friends with Jewish babies and enemies with other babies.
Like only Jewish babies go to heaven? Is that your gospel?

You know my point you're just misconstruing it to the detriment of your own soul!

All babies are God's enemies that's why He commanded the Israelites to inculcate in the minds of their children His laws so Israelite babies are covered as long as their parents follow God's laws to teach their children so they can become God's friends.
The fetus in the womb of an Israelite woman is already blessed since such a child will be born in a nation having God's laws so even though such a child is born as God's enemies the provision has been made to reconcile such babies as they grow up learning God's laws!

You can't simply comprehend little explanation ;(

tctrills:
Are you confused here. You claim that children are God's enemies then I give you examples of children that had relationship with God from the womb then you claim that salvation is only for the Jews. What exactly is your point?
Are you saying that God is only friends with Jewish babies and enemies with other babies.
Like only Jewish babies go to heaven? Is that your gospel?

tctrills:
That's between me and my soul. But as for this platform I would continue to do what I do. Leave me and my soul to God

The highlighted makes me laugh because you are punishing yourself each time you try to prove God's people wrong only to end up getting provoked after you have failed!

So going by what you just typed the one and only group that needs to defend their faith out of over 41,000 religions claiming Christians is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION shey? Luke 12:11-12

Glory be to Jehovah in the heavens.
My friend do you still have more questions because i'm ready to continue tormenting you with indisputable truth that you can only argue blindly there is no other religion that you can present as the one and only group which you can vouch for their doctrine! Matthew 5:11-12

SeniorMan715:
You can't simply comprehend little explanation ;(

My brother he can but he's really pained to the marrow that with all his efforts to malign God's organization Max is making is insulting his intelligence as he can't refute the verses i'm quoting to prove to everyone that babies are truly God's enemies who really needed to be saved by inculcating God's laws in their hearts!

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted makes me laugh because you are punishing yourself each time you try to prove God's people wrong only to end up getting provoked after you have failed!

So going by what you just typed the one and only group that needs to defend their faith out of over 41,000 religions claiming Christians is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION shey? Luke 12:11-12

Glory be to Jehovah in the heavens.
My friend do you still have more questions because i'm ready to continue tormenting you with indisputable truth that you can only argue blindly there is no other religion that you can present as the one and only group which you can vouch for their doctrine! Matthew 5:11-12

I am happy you finally find a reason to laugh. Every and any one can claim to be God's people but every time I continue to see weakness in your doctrine

MaxInDHouse:
You know my point you're just misconstruing it to the detriment of your own soul!

All babies are God's enemies that's why He commanded the Israelites to inculcate in the minds of their children His laws so Israelite babies are covered as long as their parents follow God's laws to teach their children so they can become God's friends.
The fetus in the womb of an Israelite woman is already blessed since such a child will be born in a nation having God's laws so even though such a child is born as God's enemies the provision has been made to reconcile such babies as they grow up learning God's laws!

Now you are confused. If all babies are God's enemies, dies that not include Jewish babies but here you claim he blesses them.
Here is God's words to Israel
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

In those days they shall no longer say: “‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.’ But everyone shall die for his own iniquity. Each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.

tctrills:
I am happy you finally find a reason to laugh. Every and any one can claim to be God's people but every time I continue to see weakness in your doctrine

Continue deceiving yourself!

So why not present the religion you can vouch for or you have none yet claiming you know what the Bible teaches?

tctrills:
Now you are confused. If all babies are God's enemies, dies that not include Jewish babies but here you claim he blesses them.
Here is God's words to Israel
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

In those days they shall no longer say: “‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.’ But everyone shall die for his own iniquity. Each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.

Of course Israelites babies are blessed for being descendants of Abraham: God's friend! James 2:23
That's why God continued to protect them as His people because any child born to that nation has the opportunity to know the truth about the condition of humans that all babies are God's enemies. When Israelites are sent out to destroy any nation they don't pity babies because they know that all babies are God's enemies unless those who are born , bread and raised with the laws of the God of Abraham.
If a child grows among them and decides to turn away from the laws of their God such a child must be killed {Deuteronomy 21:18-21} at that time such a child has become a curse to the land of Israel not a blessing!

MaxInDHouse:
This is a lie perpetrated by enemies of God's organization!

Many unbaptized students of the Bible will not be destroyed at Armageddon!

The only reason why Armageddon will destroy many is failure to observe God's work as it's going on in their neighbourhood. JWs will come around knocking on doors to speak with people whoever give them a listening ear will be allowed to express his or her faith so if you know the organization of the true God then you will be in the best position to tell them you already know God's organization and present the fine fruit such organization is producing {Matthew 7:16-18} failure to do so means you believe God will approve all religions as long as an individual has good manners no matter the religion he belongs to, with such mindset you have judged yourself because from that moment you must not speak against any religion after all you believe anyone could be saved if he or she has good manners so your mindset is what God will use to judge you at Armageddon as you treat everyone the same way no matter their religion! Matthew 7:1-4

But if you're of the opinion that some religions are evil then you must be able to present the one and only religion practicing pure worship because that's what God told the Israelites: all other religions are false except the religion based on the Mosaic laws. There's no sitting on the fence you can't condemn any religion if you don't belong to the God of Israel who presented just one as pure. So you must know the one and only pure worship.

Now those who will be spared at Armageddon are: people who have studied the scriptures with Jehovah's Witnesses and dedicate their lives to Jehovah then always associating with worshipers of Jehovah {Hebrews 10:24-25} anyone who humbled himself or herself to give JWs the opportunity to discuss with him or her from the Bible {Matthew 10:11-15} their names will be written by angels {Malachi 3:16} sent to accompany JWs on their preaching and teaching campaign! Revelations 14:6

Children of JWs who are also studying the Bible will be spared even though they're still young as long as they're attending meetings with God's people {Hebrews 10:24-25} even though they are still very young the faith of their parents will serve as a shield over them {1Corinthians 7:14} as they're also attending our meetings and participating so every JW is anticipating seeing his or her child comment at our meetings because angels are taking note of all those in attendance as well as their participation! Malachi 3:16

So anyone outside this setting will be KILLED at Armageddon! Revelations 21:8

Can you see how you have contradicted yourself with this long comment? You are confused abi? You earlier said that All Babies are enemies of God. Now, you are saying children of JWs will be spared from Destruction. They are spared because They are Not Enemies of God. Where exactly do you stand? You are a very confused Idiot! 😀

Are Children including Babies truly enemies of God if they will be spared? Pick a struggle Mad MaxInDHouse! Stop confusing yourself!

Courz:
Well, JW is a very secretive religion and they select doctrines to preach. The rest of the unpalatable doctrines will be revealed to you after you get baptised. So, a lot of people are not aware of how it works in that Cult. People are only able to see what JWs present to them.

That's how all cults operate. You never know the hard truths until you're fully initiated. At that time it would be very difficult to pull out.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course Israelites babies are blessed for being descendants of Abraham: God's friend! James 2:23
That's why God continued to protect them as His people because any child born to that nation has the opportunity to know the truth about the condition of humans that all babies are God's enemies. When Israelites are sent out to destroy any nation they don't pity babies because they know that all babies are God's enemies unless those who are born , bread and raised with the laws of the God of Abraham.
If a child grows among them and decides to turn away from the laws of their God such a child must be killed {Deuteronomy 21:18-21} at that time such a child has become a curse to the land of Israel not a blessing!

Are Israelite babies also God's enemies?

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

So why not present the religion you can vouch for or you have none yet claiming you know what the Bible teaches?

Lool. That is not my purpose. I understand you are not comfortable with what I do. But then you are free to stop answering me. So stop complaining and be a man.

tctrills:
Are Israelite babies also God's enemies?

All humans are God's enemies from the womb {Psalms 51:5} that's why God commanded the Israelites to inculcate His laws in their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} so Israelites babies are also God's enemies until they prove they're loyal to the God of Israel by remaining in the laws of their God if not they will be killed by their own parents as stipulated by their God! Deuteronomy 21:18-21

You can't prove this wrong simply because you hate the truth!

FxMasterz:
That's how all cults operate. You never know the hard truths until you're fully initiated. At that time it would be very difficult to pull out.

Exactly. If you read Mad MaxInDHouse's reply to me above, you will see a good example of Double Speak. He argued that All Babies are enemies of God including those of JWs but at the same time he claims Babies of JWs will be spared from Destruction. Typical example of Confusion. The guy is confused.

MaxInDHouse:
All humans are God's enemies from the womb {Psalms 51:5} that's why God commanded the Israelites to inculcate His laws in their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} so Israelites babies are also God's enemies until they prove they're loyal to the God of Israel by remaining in the laws of their God if not they will be killed by their own parents as stipulated by their God! Deuteronomy 21:18-21

You can't prove this wrong simply because you hate the truth!

So in short when God made relationships with Jeremiah and co, he was dealing with his evil enemies right.

Now to another question, please show me where it is written that God can only deals with non Israelite Adults eg Job, Melchizedek and many others but when it comes to babies and fetus he only deals with Israelites.

tctrills:
Lool. That is not my purpose. I understand you are not comfortable with what I do. But then you are free to stop answering me. So stop complaining and be a man.

I will when there's no reason to answer you any more! Ecclesiastes 3:7

But as long as you're displaying your faithlessness i will continue to push you to the extreme, what remains now is for you to denounce your faith in the book that says babies are sinners (God's enemies) right from their mother's womb {Psalms 51:5} and also commanded God's people to destroy little babies just as their God did in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek!

MaxInDHouse:
All humans are God's enemies from the womb

Wrong wrong wrong! . It is you and all the JWs all over the world that were born Enemies of God. Don't generalise this nonsense demonic doctrine. You, Your family and all the Babies in JW, all of you are enemies of God. Nonsense!

MaxInDHouse:
I will when there's no reason to answer you any more! Ecclesiastes 3:7

But as long as you're displaying your faithlessness i will continue to push you to the extreme, what remains now is for you to denounce your faith in the book that says babies are sinners (God's enemies) right from their mother's womb {Psalms 51:5} and also commanded God's people to destroy little babies just as their God did in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek!

Which extreme is this man talking about.
Are you talking about the book that teaches that babies would inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

tctrills:
So in short when God made relationships with Jeremiah and co, he was dealing with his evil enemies by condition.

They are God's enemies due to condition in which they are born {Romans 3:23} but are privileged to change their status as their parents are instructed to help them out! Deuteronomy 6:6-7

tctrills:
Now to another question, please show me where it is written that God can only deals with non Israelite Adults eg Job, Melchizedek and many others but when it comes to babies and fetus he only deals with Israelites.

Do you remember the lineage of Melchizedek or Job's descendants the same way the descendants of Abraham was recorded in the Bible?

That's what He meant by calling Himself the God of Abraham the God of Israel and the God of Jacob!

tctrills:
Which extreme is this man talking about.
Are you talking about the book that teaches that babies would inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

Adults that makes themselves teachable like children! John 21:5

Courz:
Exactly. If you read Mad MaxInDHouse's reply to me above, you will see a good example of Double Speak. He argued that All Babies are enemies of God including those of JWs but at the same time he claims Babies of JWs will be spared from Destruction. Typical example of Confusion. The guy is confused.

The moment any organizations, group or individuals claim an exclusive knowledge of God while denegrating all others, you already know that the devil is their master, and lies would be their stock in trade.

MaxInDHouse:
They are God's enemies due to condition in which they are born {Romans 3:23} but are privileged to change their status as their parents are instructed to help them out! Deuteronomy 6:6-7


Do you remember the lineage of Melchizedek or Job's descendants the same way the descendants of Abraham was recorded in the Bible?

That's what He meant by calling Himself the God of Abraham the God of Israel and the God of Jacob!

Ok you mean Job and Melchizedek instructed their kids to be evil? Please what verse of the bible teaches that God's none Israel servants were not allowed to teach their kids the way of the Lord. No guesswork here please.

MaxInDHouse:
I will when there's no reason to answer you any more! Ecclesiastes 3:7

But as long as you're displaying your faithlessness i will continue to push you to the extreme, what remains now is for you to denounce your faith in the book that says babies are sinners (God's enemies) right from their mother's womb {Psalms 51:5} and also commanded God's people to destroy little babies just as their God did in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek!

You will be quoting verses without reading them. Where in this verse you quoted did you see the person saying I was born an Enemy of God from the Womb? Where did you see that there? Why can't you just read the Bible as you see it? Why are you adding to the Bible? Are you trying to say you as a Sinner are an enemy of God? Where did you see where serving God prevents you from being a Sinner? You are you perfect? Going by your logic, All sinners are enemies of God Including you. Therefore, every Christian is still an enemy of God as long as they are still Sinners. We were all born with Sin but making efforts to live a Christlike life will not prevent you from Sinning. That's why we continue to pray to God to forgive us of our sins continuously. So, where did you see Enemy in this verse below?

FxMasterz:
The moment any individual claim an exclusive knowledge of God while denegrating all others, you already know that the devil is their master, and lies would be their stock in trade.

Regarding the highlighted a first century young Jew said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

Perhaps his (true) disciples will have the same mindset! John 17:22

MaxInDHouse:
Adults that makes themselves teachable like children! John 21:5

You are right, adults that make themselves like chicken would enjoy the same reward Christ promised to the little children
Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”