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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CaptainFM1: 5:44am On Apr 23, 2023
bigrovar:


Please take time to share where the battery is installed. Particularly the ambient temperature around the battery. So basically, when your use up electrolyte at such rate, it means you are over charging your battery - the reserve is when toping up electrolyte takes a long time (like 2 to 3 months) means battery is being under charged.

You may want to adjust down your charge voltage. Something people should understand is, for lead acid batteries, your charge voltage is actually relate to battery temperature, the higher the temperature of a battery, the lower the charge voltage should be. The reference charge voltage on the battery spec sheet is meant for a 27C temperature, so unless your battery is installed in an AC room, If you are in Nigeria you need to adjust your battery charge voltage to compensate for temperature increase above 27C. This is called temperature compensated charging and some solar chargers have this functionality and thus have a temperature sensor probe that you attach to the battery. This allows them to adjust charge voltage automatically based on battery temperature.

On the issue of voltage sag, this is a characteristics of Flooded Acid Battery. It is a fundamental flaw of the battery chemistry and it is one of the ways where an AGM does better. The voltage sag under load shouldn't worry you too much as long as it remains constant. It just means you are unable put heavy load on the battery which again is part of the flaws of Flooded Acid battery.

Good morning Bro.
I was searching through how to maintain my solar inverter batteries when I came across this thread. I just know that something isn't right each time I look at the batteries floats. It now dawn on me that I need to refill them as a matter of urgency.

Could you please recommend which distill water brand is best for refilling the battery? I have Enviro Tubular batteries.

Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 6:54am On Apr 23, 2023
Selina came through for me.
Payment was made early January and they arrived early April. 3mths shipping and clearing duration then.
Well packaged for the long journey inside standard cartons. I don keep the cartons to use as separator when installation starts, top quali those cartons.
One of the things I didn't like with the purchase is the busbar came without insulation (usually its in their adverts). Just ordered shrink wraps now to use for that, extra monies.
For now batteries are undergoing top balancing. I see this my small charger using up to 2wks to gain full charge status.
Batteries arrived at 3.28v with a few dropping to 3.27v. They have been marked out for close observation.
Let's see where this new adventure will take us to. One China thing wey people never start to complain about.

@justcallmenuel, abeg this Growatt hybrid still dey available? Can you please paste the specs here. Thanks.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 7:44am On Apr 23, 2023
essegis:
Selina came through for me.
Payment was made early January and they arrived early April. 3mths shipping and clearing duration then.
Well packaged for the long journey inside standard cartons. I don keep the cartons to use as separator when installation starts, top quali those cartons.
One of the things I didn't like with the purchase is the busbar came without insulation (usually its in their adverts). Just ordered shrink wraps now to use for that, extra monies.
For now batteries are undergoing top balancing. I see this my small charger using up to 2wks to gain full charge status.
Batteries arrived at 3.28v with a few dropping to 3.27v. They have been marked out for close observation.
Let's see where this new adventure will take us to. One China thing wey people never start to complain about.

@justcallmenuel, abeg this Growatt hybrid still dey available? Can you please paste the specs here. Thanks.

omo, you wan start substation ni?. thats over 50 cells, from experience, 16 cells take about 7 days 247 charging using that same charger type you are using set at 40amps.

if you want a faster charging you can hook them up in series to a decent inverter and charge at 100 amps or more with a bms of course. personally i prefer top balancing them in batches of 16.

also best to put the neg and pos terminals of the charger at opposite ends of the pack, to ensure a balanced flow of charge.

2 busbars, thats how standard busbars come--naked. only the thinner 230ah bus bars come with insulation.
the insulation on the busbars arent tht critical. you can build your packs without it.

@3.28 and 3.27 cell voltage diff...not a big deal..the are all brand new cells.

the shipper was OJ shipper or bestline....did they charge you extra for clearing

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 10:20am On Apr 23, 2023
grin grin grin

Na 52 cells oo. But I want to use 48 to make 3 banks. 4 extra was bought just in case some get issue during transport, abi na so them dey advice. I sha no see anyone with issue so I don get 4 spare be that. I go use them build 12v bank for my pikin in school.

As for the charging, I only have one of those chargers and with children running around everywhere I no trust doing them in bits oo. Let me just keep all of them in one place for now. As for spreading out the poles for balanced charging I would have loved to do that but you know say those chargers don't come with long wires. Make I dey manage am as I see now my brother. Thanks.

As for shipping I no really know who do am. I went through one of my colleagues that does China a lot. They charged shipping and clearing in one package sha.

earthrealm:


omo, you wan start substation ni?. thats over 50 cells, from experience, 16 cells take about 7 days 247 charging using that same charger type you are using set at 40amps.

if you want a faster charging you can hook them up in series to a decent inverter and charge at 100 amps or more with a bms of course. personally i prefer top balancing them in batches of 16.

also best to put the neg and pos terminals of the charger at opposite ends of the pack, to ensure a balanced flow of charge.

2 busbars, thats how standard busbars come--naked. only the thinner 230ah bus bars come with insulation.
the insulation on the busbars arent tht critical. you can build your packs without it.

@3.28 and 3.27 cell voltage diff...not a big deal..the are all brand new cells.

the shipper was OJ shipper or bestline....did they charge you extra for clearing

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by justcallmenuel(m): 3:24pm On Apr 23, 2023
essegis:
Selina came through for me.
Payment was made early January and they arrived early April. 3mths shipping and clearing duration then.
Well packaged for the long journey inside standard cartons. I don keep the cartons to use as separator when installation starts, top quali those cartons.
One of the things I didn't like with the purchase is the busbar came without insulation (usually its in their adverts). Just ordered shrink wraps now to use for that, extra monies.
For now batteries are undergoing top balancing. I see this my small charger using up to 2wks to gain full charge status.
Batteries arrived at 3.28v with a few dropping to 3.27v. They have been marked out for close observation.
Let's see where this new adventure will take us to. One China thing wey people never start to complain about.

@justcallmenuel, abeg this Growatt hybrid still dey available? Can you please paste the specs here. Thanks.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mangolpupa: 4:10pm On Apr 23, 2023
My people, an electrician installed my ac dc ceiling fan (Qasa qcf-56c) and unfortunately wired it wrongly which burned it.

see pics.

How do I remedy the problem. What are the options?

In providing options, pls include its estimated cost if possible.

Thank you.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 5:45pm On Apr 23, 2023
mangolpupa:
My people, an electrician installed my ac dc ceiling fan (Qasa qcf-56c) and unfortunately wired it wrongly which burned it.

see pics.

How do I remedy the problem. What are the options?

In providing options, pls include its estimated cost if possible.

Thank you.

Where did you buy it from?

If you bought it from a direct distributor, or the seller can link you to the direct distributor, he can take you to Qasa service station in Alaba international and they will fix it for you at little or no extra cost. Just rapport well with them.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 5:50pm On Apr 23, 2023
essegis:
grin grin grin

Na 52 cells oo. But I want to use 48 to make 3 banks. 4 extra was bought just in case some get issue during transport, abi na so them dey advice. I sha no see anyone with issue so I don get 4 spare be that. I go use them build 12v bank for my pikin in school.

As for the charging, I only have one of those chargers and with children running around everywhere I no trust doing them in bits oo. Let me just keep all of them in one place for now. As for spreading out the poles for balanced charging I would have loved to do that but you know say those chargers don't come with long wires. Make I dey manage am as I see now my brother. Thanks.

As for shipping I no really know who do am. I went through one of my colleagues that does China a lot. They charged shipping and clearing in one package sha.


That means selina did not handle the shipment. 3 months is very good. Well-done.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mangolpupa: 6:00pm On Apr 23, 2023
odimbannamdi:


Where did you buy it from?

If you bought it from a direct distributor, or the seller can link you to the direct distributor, he can take you to Qasa service station in Alaba international and they will fix it for you at little or no extra cost. Just rapport well with them.

Thank you. I will make enquiries .
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 6:01pm On Apr 23, 2023
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 6:04pm On Apr 23, 2023
Sheisenough01:
Hi Bosses,

I need your help on this. What do you advise for longer battery run time.

Two more batteries or change from Famicare 24v inverter to a Transformless pure sine wave inverter?

If two more batteries can I add 2 tubular new to my current setup though they are old? (3 months old)

My batteries do around 5-6 hours currently.

I appreciate all responses.

First of all, what is your definition of "longer battery run time" in hours based on your average load usage?

Based on my own experience, it is easier, cheaper, faster to get results and probably more effective as regards getting more back up time from your batteries if you switch to transformerless inverters as most of these bulky inverters are terrible energy guzzlers. My backup time improved by over 20% when i made the switch 2 years ago.

If you are in Lagos, reach out to me. I will give you a money back guarantee to pick up a transformerless inverter I have here and see how it improves your backup time. If it doesn't meet your expectation, i will do a full refund immediately. Terms and Conditions apply.

For the emboldened part, it isn't best practice. The old batteries could deccelerate the performance of the new ones, even if they are same brand and chemistry. If you want to go that route, you are better off setting up a new parallel system.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 6:05pm On Apr 23, 2023
mangolpupa:


Thank you. I will make enquiries .

You are welcome bro
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 7:58pm On Apr 23, 2023
mangolpupa:
My people, an electrician installed my ac dc ceiling fan (Qasa qcf-56c) and unfortunately wired it wrongly which burned it.

see pics.

How do I remedy the problem. What are the options?

In providing options, pls include its estimated cost if possible.

Thank you.

Some electrician self, na so Dem spoil a friend's own too, I did mine myself following the manual, easy to connect.

Contact seller for replacement, hopefully it's available.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mangolpupa: 9:57pm On Apr 23, 2023
Dam5reey:


Some electrician self, na so Dem spoil a friend's own too, I did mine myself following the manual, easy to connect.

Contact seller for replacement, hopefully it's available.

My brother, I just tire. Do you know how the information was passed to me? Baba electrician said, "generator burnt it"?? Which I objected to and queried... how will generator "burn it".

it was later that I discovered that Baba has connected 220v (nepa/gen) to DC wiring!!!

I have been saying since that the level of technical knowledge that our current technicians exhibit is worrisome. Imagine you or any of us having to buy a product, analyze it and its technology for fear (in part) that a technician you will not do justice to it.

Thanks for the advise jare... I will check that too.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 11:22pm On Apr 23, 2023
mangolpupa:


My brother, I just tire. Do you know how the information was passed to me? Baba electrician said, "generator burnt it"?? Which I objected to and queried... how will generator "burn it".

it was later that I discovered that Baba has connected 220v (nepa/gen) to DC wiring!!!

I have been saying since that the level of technical knowledge that our current technicians exhibit is worrisome. Imagine you or any of us having to buy a product, analyze it and its technology for fear (in part) that a technician you will not do justice to it.

Thanks for the advise jare... I will check that too.


The truth is, that fan is a new technology most typical electricians are not familiar with. In my case, I bought 2 units and my electrician mistakenly bought the first one. So we had to look for a tutorial video online and installed the second one together. After the first one was fixed, I called him back to install it again. This time around, he installed it well without issues. I really can't say whether the first one originally had issues or my guy mistakenly burnt it, but I guess he is now familiar with that technology.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 3:57am On Apr 24, 2023
There is one thing you guys are missing here, our electricians don't do DC, most of them are used to AC all their lives. If you give a DC work to any one of them without you supervising, hmmmmm, you are on a long thing. Everything nà 220v for their eyes.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valentinooo: 6:55am On Apr 24, 2023
Oshomo12:
There is one thing you guys are missing here, our electricians don't do DC, most of them are used to AC all their lives. If you give a DC work to any one of them without you supervising, hmmmmm, you are on a long thing. Everything nà 220v for their eyes.

cheesy cheesy
You are actually right, Just bring out the manual first and study it together with him.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 6:57am On Apr 24, 2023
Oshomo12:
There is one thing you guys are missing here, our electricians don't do DC, most of them are used to AC all their lives. If you give a DC work to any one of them without you supervising, hmmmmm, you are on a long thing. Everything nà 220v for their eyes.

Exactly!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 6:57am On Apr 24, 2023
Valentinooo:


cheesy cheesy
You are actually right, Just bring out the manual first and study it together with him.

Exactly what I did as well
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Xmen149(m): 7:34am On Apr 24, 2023
dammodee911:

Recently installed a 5.5kwh Smk hybrid on and off grid inverter system coupled with 4 units of 12v 200ah blue carbon lithium ion lifepo4 batteries and 8 450watts mono solar panels. Everything seems fine, but the only downside is that my 9kva firman 12990esr generator can’t seem to charge it. So far only the solar and Nepa light have been able to charge it. But with the raining season on full mode and epileptic power supply, I really need the generator option. My installer said my generator frequency isn’t enough, this is a generator that comfortably powers my 3hp inverter standing AC and 1.5hp inverter AC. What can I do pls? So far from the inverter screen, my gen produces btw 275 -285v and btw 48 - 50.5hz. Shouldn’t this be enough to charge the battery?

275v-285v is dam too high for domestic use bro,.the inverter will continue rejecting it and it's doing you a favour.

Get a gen technician to tune the voltage down for you before you enter sorry mode

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Xmen149(m): 8:04am On Apr 24, 2023
Suggestions.!!!!!!!!!!

I think this thread should have a WhatsApp group.

Either for all or

Suppliers and technicians.

It will have countless benefits which includes easy sourcing of materials,help/assistance even in real-time, connection (client to technician, technician to technician) ,easy recommendation to name a few ...all in realtime
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valentinooo: 8:15am On Apr 24, 2023
I got this diagram from youtube. Hope it will help intending QASA or other DC fan buyers

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mangolpupa: 8:43am On Apr 24, 2023
Xmen149:


275v-285v is dam too high for domestic use bro,.the inverter will continue rejecting it and it's doing you a favour.

Get a gen technician to tune the voltage down for you before you enter sorry mode

Me, I know understand how your frequency is not "enough". Nigeria formally supplies 230v at 50hz . Most appliances in use in nigeria accept 50hz/60hz.

I concur with my other oga. 280v is high. So thank your stars your inverter is discriminating against that voltage. Please see if there is a way to regulate your generator output voltage to 220-230v.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 9:03am On Apr 24, 2023
Xmen149:
Suggestions.!!!!!!!!!!

I think this thread should have a WhatsApp group.

Either for all or

Suppliers and technicians.

It will have countless benefits which includes easy sourcing of materials,help/assistance even in real-time, connection (client to technician, technician to technician) ,easy recommendation to name a few ...all in realtime
The thread is okay as it is, the wealth of information here is not something that can be gotten from a WhatsApp group which I am sure even you won't be privy to if we have gone that route

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jonescosmos: 9:32am On Apr 24, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Please share your extractor fan model?

I have found myself having to import this as well don't have what I want locally.

Thanks please.

Also share why you went for that particular brand and model.

Thanks again

I stumbled upon this fan at a friend's house, I liked it and tested it to comfirm the ratings and I went for it.

Rated 220v 50w with Shutter and Grill. (I personally don't think it takes up to that because I measured the Amperage of around 2.5A max while it's operating)

It is controlled by the 15A 220v MOES Smart Temperature and Humidity switch which detects the preset temperature of the room and then starts or stops the fan. This Switch has two outputs which can control 2 fans. So I can choose that one fan kicks on at 35 degrees centigrade and if the temperature increases further to 45 degrees, the second fan should kick on also. Second fan can be set to shut off at 35 degrees and the first fan to shut off at 32 degrees. This is very impressive of the MOES switch. It has inbuilt Wi-Fi also so it's connected to my home network and controlled by the APP.

I also got some really nice models and brands from Amazon USA with more functions like speed control, etc. But those were miraculously overpriced hence my choice for this Alaba market model. Hahahaha.

The shutter opens only when it's operating thereby preventing rodents and Co from getting in. The grill behind the fan prevents stubborn intruders also.

This fan not only extracts the heat from the power room but also the dust..
I am considering adding the second fan soon to complement this one and utilize the full potentials of the Smart switch also.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 10:39am On Apr 24, 2023
Xmen149:
Suggestions.!!!!!!!!!!

I think this thread should have a WhatsApp group.

Either for all or

Suppliers and technicians.

It will have countless benefits which includes easy sourcing of materials,help/assistance even in real-time, connection (client to technician, technician to technician) ,easy recommendation to name a few ...all in realtime

Ask yourself: If there was a WhatsApp group before you knew of the thread and every conversation happened there, would you have met this thread in the first place or even got to know about the WhatsApp group in the second place?

Abeg perish the idea of WhatsApp group before moderator dash you 99 years ban. Moderators no dey like use eye read anything about WhatsApp group on Nairaland o

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Juror: 10:54am On Apr 24, 2023
essegis:
Selina came through for me.
Payment was made early January and they arrived early April. 3mths shipping and clearing duration then.
Well packaged for the long journey inside standard cartons. I don keep the cartons to use as separator when installation starts, top quali those cartons.
One of the things I didn't like with the purchase is the busbar came without insulation (usually its in their adverts). Just ordered shrink wraps now to use for that, extra monies.
For now batteries are undergoing top balancing. I see this my small charger using up to 2wks to gain full charge status.
Batteries arrived at 3.28v with a few dropping to 3.27v. They have been marked out for close observation.
Let's see where this new adventure will take us to. One China thing wey people never start to complain about.

@justcallmenuel, abeg this Growatt hybrid still dey available? Can you please paste the specs here. Thanks.

Didn't you have some cells recently? I think Nissan leaf or so? or was it someone else
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mangolpupa: 11:00am On Apr 24, 2023
odimbannamdi:


Ask yourself: If there was a WhatsApp group before you knew of the thread and every conversation happened there, would you have met this thread in the first place or even got to know about the WhatsApp group in the second place?

Abeg perish the idea of WhatsApp group before moderator dash you 99 years ban. Moderators no dey like use eye read anything about WhatsApp group on Nairaland o

grin grin grin grin

Baba this your correct advise crack me up. cheesy
Abi oo. Make person no come cut Seun ticket.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 11:04am On Apr 24, 2023
mangolpupa:


grin grin grin grin

Baba this your correct advise crack me up. cheesy
Abi oo. Make person no come cut Seun ticket.

grin grin

No be small cut him wan cut Seun ticket o...him wan carry Seun traffic go whatsapp...lol
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Pojomojo: 11:12am On Apr 24, 2023
Prices of Solar system about to go sky rocket once they remove fuel subsidy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 1:08pm On Apr 24, 2023
jonescosmos:


I stumbled upon this fan at a friend's house, I liked it and tested it to comfirm the ratings and I went for it.

Rated 220v 50w with Shutter and Grill. (I personally don't think it takes up to that because I measured the Amperage of around 2.5A max while it's operating)

It is controlled by the 15A 220v MOES Smart Temperature and Humidity switch which detects the preset temperature of the room and then starts or stops the fan. This Switch has two outputs which can control 2 fans. So I can choose that one fan kicks on at 35 degrees centigrade and if the temperature increases further to 45 degrees, the second fan should kick on also. Second fan can be set to shut off at 35 degrees and the first fan to shut off at 32 degrees. This is very impressive of the MOES switch. It has inbuilt Wi-Fi also so it's connected to my home network and controlled by the APP.

I also got some really nice models and brands from Amazon USA with more functions like speed control, etc. But those were miraculously overpriced hence my choice for this Alaba market model. Hahahaha.

The shutter opens only when it's operating thereby preventing rodents and Co from getting in. The grill behind the fan prevents stubborn intruders also.

This fan not only extracts the heat from the power room but also the dust..
I am considering adding the second fan soon to complement this one and utilize the full potentials of the Smart switch also.

Thanks for your detailed response.

I thought it was one device. It looks like two devices. The (1) fan and the (2) Smart Temperature and Humidity switch.

Did you get both locally? Or did you get the fan locally but the Switch was imported?

How much did they go for?

I appreciate what you have said about the pricing on Amazon. My research indicates that the more powerful the extractor fan, and the more likely it was built well and that it will last long. Prices around $200 are considered reasonable if you get a powerful one from a renowned brand.

Your information has been very useful.

So if I were to get the setup, I should consider the setup incomplete without 2 fans.

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