My mechanic uses Total Quartz Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre for my steering pump.

When i drive the car at time the steering will hard. But if i off the car and leave it for like 2-5 minutes and start again it will free.

After i gave it to one guy to work the pump the thing didn’t stop. So I used vex to new brand new steering pump, I wanted to buy toks pump but the seller advised i buy brand new. Although he said the choice is mine. initially i was scared of new because its china but another thought in me was that steering pump give too much problem and i don’t know the history of the toks one, and besides the new one will likely last more it was around 15k difference costlier than the toks, after many thought i pick the new one . And i bought the total Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre. And took it to another mechanic to fix and it was then it occurs to me me that I shouldn’t be using engine oil because because when I bought the car the previous owner was using one red atf oil. But my mechanic told me that red oil was not good.

I asked the mechanics there and they said the total 20w-50 is the wrong oil for steering pump. When I explained my problem they said that oil is responsible for why the steering hard some times. They said if i can return the new pump and flush that oil it will be okay. But I declined.

They told me to buy visco 2000 oil. But when I bought the visco 2000 oil. The 20w-30 was written on it also. When i told the mechanics they said it doesn’t matter that visco 2000 oil is very good for steering pump. That what they are using for people.

New They have poured the visco oil on the pump. But i am not really clear on this.

I need help on this. Is the visco 2000 oil good for steering pump?

AutoManual:
My mechanic uses Total Quartz Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre for my steering pump.

When i drive the car at time the steering will hard. But if i off the car and leave it for like 2-5 minutes and start again it will free.

After i gave it to one guy to work the pump the thing didn’t stop. So I used vex to new brand new steering pump, I wanted to buy toks pump but the seller advised i buy brand new. Although he said the choice is mine. initially i was scared of new because its china but another thought in me was that steering pump give too much problem and i don’t know the history of the toks one, and besides the new one will likely last more it was around 15k difference costlier than the toks, after many thought i pick the new one . And i bought the total Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre. And took it to another mechanic to fix and it was then it occurs to me me that I shouldn’t be using engine oil because because when I bought the car the previous owner was using one red atf oil. But my mechanic told me that red oil was not good.

I asked the mechanics there and they said the total 20w-50 is the wrong oil for steering pump. When I explained my problem they said that oil is responsible for why the steering hard some times. They said if i can return the new pump and flush that oil it will be okay. But I declined.

They told me to buy visco 2000 oil. But when I bought the visco 2000 oil. The 20w-30 was written on it also. When i told the mechanics they said it doesn’t matter that visco 2000 oil is very good for steering pump. That what they are using for people.

New They have poured the visco oil on the pump. But i am not really clear on this.

I need help on this. Is the visco 2000 oil good for steering pump?

Power steering pump oil is different from engine oil, you have been using engine oil in your power steering. All the oil you mentioned above are for the motor engine not the power steering pump!
You are going to destroy the new pump with the oil you just used.

What you should be using is power steering oil or ATF.

Run from those mechanics as fast as you can, what they are pouring into steering pump is engine oil which will damage it.

The right oil is ATF.

shortgun:
Run from those mechanics as fast as you can, what they are pouring into steering pump is engine oil which will damage it.

The right oil is ATF.

i tire for all this mechanics oh, i have been wasting money here and there because of them. I will go buy the atf oil today. Its a brand new pump. Which brand oil should i pour inside?

I noticed the steering is not as free for a new pump.

The problem is enugu lack professional mechanic service. Na kazeem full here and later they will say honda is not reliable not knowing they dont know anything.

uwemjack:


Power steering pump oil is different from engine oil, you have been using engine oil in your power steering. All the oil you mentioned above are for the motor engine not the power steering pump!
You are going to destroy the new pump with the oil you just used.

What you should be using is power steering oil or ATF.

which brand should i buy and how much?

AutoManual:
which brand should i buy and how much?

Which car do you use?

Go to a shop where they sell car parts and oils, as for power steering fluid or ATF for your power steering whichever one they give you is better than using an engine oil!

Those mechanicare quackand fake..you suppose to use ATF as said by some comrades, but the one you can buy is ABRO and there is another one which is inside a tin small can and not in plastic I have forget the name tho, but it's ATF too..uts around 2k for the tin and the plastic abro is around 1k..but go for the tin own because it works for almost all cars..
And before that, let your pump be loose and they should service or wash with petrol before putting the new oil..stay bless

AutoManual:
My mechanic uses Total Quartz Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre for my steering pump.

When i drive the car at time the steering will hard. But if i off the car and leave it for like 2-5 minutes and start again it will free.

After i gave it to one guy to work the pump the thing didn’t stop. So I used vex to new brand new steering pump, I wanted to buy toks pump but the seller advised i buy brand new. Although he said the choice is mine. initially i was scared of new because its china but another thought in me was that steering pump give too much problem and i don’t know the history of the toks one, and besides the new one will likely last more it was around 15k difference costlier than the toks, after many thought i pick the new one . And i bought the total Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre. And took it to another mechanic to fix and it was then it occurs to me me that I shouldn’t be using engine oil because because when I bought the car the previous owner was using one red atf oil. But my mechanic told me that red oil was not good.

I asked the mechanics there and they said the total 20w-50 is the wrong oil for steering pump. When I explained my problem they said that oil is responsible for why the steering hard some times. They said if i can return the new pump and flush that oil it will be okay. But I declined.

They told me to buy visco 2000 oil. But when I bought the visco 2000 oil. The 20w-30 was written on it also. When i told the mechanics they said it doesn’t matter that visco 2000 oil is very good for steering pump. That what they are using for people.

New They have poured the visco oil on the pump. But i am not really clear on this.

I need help on this. Is the visco 2000 oil good for steering pump?

First time I'm hearing they can use engine oil for steering pump.

AutoManual:
i tire for all this mechanics oh, i have been wasting money here and there because of them. I will go buy the atf oil today. Its a brand new pump. Which brand oil should i pour inside?

I noticed the steering is not as free for a new pump.

The problem is enugu lack professional mechanic service. Na kazeem full here and later they will say honda is reliable not knowing they dont know anything.

Any ATF oil should work for you. You can equally search for the recommended steering fluid for your vehicle online.

Which side of Enugu are you?
Enugu should have good mechanics, have you tried around coal camp axis?

AutoManual:
My mechanic uses Total Quartz Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre for my steering pump.

When i drive the car at time the steering will hard. But if i off the car and leave it for like 2-5 minutes and start again it will free.

After i gave it to one guy to work the pump the thing didn’t stop. So I used vex to new brand new steering pump, I wanted to buy toks pump but the seller advised i buy brand new. Although he said the choice is mine. initially i was scared of new because its china but another thought in me was that steering pump give too much problem and i don’t know the history of the toks one, and besides the new one will likely last more it was around 15k difference costlier than the toks, after many thought i pick the new one . And i bought the total Motor Oil 20W-50 - 1Litre. And took it to another mechanic to fix and it was then it occurs to me me that I shouldn’t be using engine oil because because when I bought the car the previous owner was using one red atf oil. But my mechanic told me that red oil was not good.

I asked the mechanics there and they said the total 20w-50 is the wrong oil for steering pump. When I explained my problem they said that oil is responsible for why the steering hard some times. They said if i can return the new pump and flush that oil it will be okay. But I declined.

They told me to buy visco 2000 oil. But when I bought the visco 2000 oil. The 20w-30 was written on it also. When i told the mechanics they said it doesn’t matter that visco 2000 oil is very good for steering pump. That what they are using for people.

New They have poured the visco oil on the pump. But i am not really clear on this.

I need help on this. Is the visco 2000 oil good for steering pump?

I have seen mechanics use Visco 2000 engine oil in AT transmission. That engine oil just has a red dye but it is engine oil, same as the total.

Coming to the real question, both the ATF and engine oil are not for steering pump. There is a power steering fluid/oil.

ATF is hydraulic oil meant for heat resistance and enhancing friction while having detergents
PS oil is hydraulic oil meant for heat resistance and reducing friction
Engine oil is meant for heat resistance, reducing friction, having detergents and many additives

However, based on my research, using viscosity as major difference in the oils, I found out that ATF has very low viscosity compared to PS oil. Engine oil (20w50) has higher viscosity than PS oil. Also the lower viscosity of ATF to PS oil will cause heat build up which is bad for PS pump. Viscosity of 20w50 is higher than PS but will reduce over heating but inefficient.

My opinion is that, in the absence of PS oil, use oil engine oil with a lighter viscosity than 20w50, such as 5w30, 5w20.

The reason why most people adopt ATF is that every Automatic transmission basically has an oil pump that is basically doing the same kind of work like the PS pump. Since the operation is similar, the oil is similar. But we have very very bad ATF oils in the market that will just kill your pump. You are safer with a thicker oil than a lighter one.

Berrityga:
First time I'm hearing they can use engine oil for steering pump.

Our mechanics are the reason why people spend valuable time and money repairing vehicles all the time.
I remember an incident where my cousin is always changing the engine belt in his highlander to the extent that he will have like 2 spare ones in the trunk.

He complained about it to me but I didn't pay much attention to it, I just told him to look for the original serpentine belt for his vehicle.
When the complaint became too much I looked at the vehicle and noticed that he has been buying belts with 6 lines (6pk)while his vehicle should use 7 lines(7pk)

When I confronted the mechanic he told me confidently that it doesn't matter if the belt is 6 lines or 7 lines that what is important is the length of the belt and fitment, he showed me many vehicles in his workshop with 1 Line missing.

....and this is not the normal road side mechanic .
I was beyond shocked 😲😲

uwemjack:


Which car do you use?

Go to a shop where they sell car parts and oils, as for power steering fluid or ATF for your power steering whichever one they give you is better than using an engine oil!

honda DC. Its a brand new pump.

adanny01:


I have seen mechanics use Visco 2000 engine oil in AT transmission. That engine oil just has a red dye but it is engine oil, same as the total.

Coming to the real question, both the ATF and engine oil are not for steering pump. There is a power steering fluid/oil.

ATF is hydraulic oil meant for heat resistance and enhancing friction while having detergents
PS oil is hydraulic oil meant for heat resistance and reducing friction
Engine oil is meant for heat resistance, reducing friction, having detergents and many additives

However, based on my research, using viscosity as major difference in the oils, I found out that ATF has very low viscosity compared to PS oil. Engine oil (20w50) has higher viscosity than PS oil. Also the lower viscosity of ATF to PS oil will cause heat build up which is bad for PS pump. Viscosity of 20w50 is higher than PS but will reduce over heating but inefficient.

My opinion is that, in the absence of PS oil, use oil engine oil with a lighter viscosity than 20w50, such as 5w30, 5w20.

The reason why most people adopt ATF is that every Automatic transmission basically has an oil pump that is basically doing the same kind of work like the PS pump. Since the operation is similar, the oil is similar. But we have very very bad ATF oils in the market that will just kill your pump. You are safer with a thicker oil than a lighter one.

in all of this what do you suggest i do? Flush out the oil? Because I noticed there is a kind of drag when I drive? If i flush the oil. What oil should i buy and pour inside?

Sell this scrap you are using. Sell the car for 600k and rest. You are driving a carton.and not a car. Wanna use all hid life saving to repair one dead carton.na by force to drive motor

Angrygoat:
Sell this scrap you are using. Sell the car for 600k and rest. You are driving a carton.and not a car. Wanna use all hid life saving to repair one dead carton.na by force to drive motor

you are stupid.

Sell the scrap off. Idio t.hahahaha. u sef wan be car owner. Hahahahaha. U are not driving a car at all, you are drivong a carton. U will open anoyher thread very soon about the useless scrap you are driving. Loser. Hahahahahaha..hahahahahahaha

AutoManual:
you are stupid.

AutoManual:
honda DC. Its a brand new pump.

The oil you need!
Flush the system!

Just another day in the life of Automanual.

OP is blaming mechanics he found under a tree in an empty plot of land.

Somewhere in Enugu metropolis, there are seasoned workshops (known to be expensive) who can do the job and are better equipped to solve OP's problem.

However, OP would rather patronize quacks and turn around to blame a whole town (Enugu) for not having mechanics.

Chukel, mejai and other nairalanders who live in Enugu must be servicing their cars in Abuja and Port Harcourt when their vehicles develop fault.

9icetoo:
Just another day in the life of Automanual.

OP is blaming mechanics he found under a tree in an empty plot of land.

Somewhere in Enugu metropolis, there are seasoned workshops (known to be expensive) who can do the job and are better equipped to solve OP's problem.

However, OP would rather patronize quacks and turn around to blame a whole town (Enugu) for not having mechanics.

Chukel, mejai and other nairalanders who live in Enugu must be servicing their cars in Abuja and Port Harcourt when their vehicles develop fault.

Enugu has quacks all over the town, yet to find any professional mechanic that knows it onions like Lagos and other states. Even major markets like camp. You will find 80% of People who don't believe in thermostat claiming the country weather is hot. Try and error. You hardly find one using computer or scan tool.

At least there would have been a reputable mechanic from Enugu in nairaland like Lagos.

AutoManual:
Enugu has quacks all over the town, yet to find any professional mechanic that knows it onions like Lagos and other states. Even major markets like camp. You will find 80% of People who don't believe in thermostat claiming the country weather is hot. Try and error. You hardly find one using computer or scan tool.

At least their would have been a reputable mechanic from Enugu in nairaland like Lagos.

There are good mechanics in Enugu, don't be ridiculous.

shortgun:

Our mechanics are the reason why people spend valuable time and money repairing vehicles all the time.
I remember an incident where my cousin is always changing the engine belt in his highlander to the extent that he will have like 2 spare ones in the trunk.

He complained about it to me but I didn't pay much attention to it, I just told him to look for the original serpentine belt for his vehicle.
When the complaint became too much I looked at the vehicle and noticed that he has been buying belts with 6 lines (6pk)while his vehicle should use 7 lines(7pk)

When I confronted the mechanic he told me confidently that it doesn't matter if the belt is 6 lines or 7 lines that what is important is the length of the belt and fitment, he showed me many vehicles in his workshop with 1 Line missing.

....and this is not the normal road side mechanic .
I was beyond shocked 😲😲

I bought several new ones until I bought a tokumbo which is 3yrs old now with no crack or tear.

Most of the spare parts imported to this country are mostly low quality or just knock offs.

AutoManual:
Enugu has quacks all over the town, yet to find any professional mechanic that knows it onions like Lagos and other states. Even major markets like camp. You will find 80% of People who don't believe in thermostat claiming the country weather is hot. Try and error. You hardly find one using computer or scan tool.

At least there would have been a reputable mechanic from Enugu in nairaland like Lagos.

Lagos has quacks all over too. There are very few credible mechanics in Lagos and a lot of them still believe thermostats should be removed. Them plenty. Quacks outnumber sabi by far. Look for a good mechanic in enugu, ask people. Enugu people are here and they don't go to mechanics who use visco 2000 to replace power steering fluid.

Before you replace that pump and pout in the expensive power steering fluid, make sure your power steering rack is up to the task cos if it isn't you will be back to square one in no time.

9icetoo:

Lagos has quacks all over too. There are very few credible mechanics in Lagos and a lot of them still believe thermostats should be removed. Them plenty. Quacks outnumber sabi by far. Look for a good mechanic in enugu, ask people. Enugu people are here and they don't go to mechanics who use visco 2000 to replace power steering fluid.

Before you replace that pump and pout in the expensive power steering fluid, make sure your power steering rack is up to the task cos if it isn't you will be back to square one in no time.

I have experienced this visco 2000 from my chief kazeem, it looks like it's common in Enugu.
The problem is the car owner. Ur money, ur car, ur wahala when it happens (na only sorry Dem go tell u) & chop ur money on top too. Get ur car manual, ask questions, seek out answers here and Honda thread here. If u insist this is what u want, will they have options? Kazeems are a constant, K. We must live with them.


Back then, I approached a rewire to ask him about check engine light in my Corolla. His response still dey shock me as I remember am.
'Nwanne, drive ur car dey go like that, all japanese cars he works on, have that light. It is a normal thing with japanese cars.'

Now, will I come back and ask him such related questions? Na trouble I dey find.

So Automanual, arm urself with information and get the right fluid and have a rest of mind. U should be ahead of them..

This is 2023 and a lot of mechanics in Nigeria are still stupid like this. Nna men

Guy Man don jam the Grand Master's Of Kazeems 😂😂


Pump otilo

Your mechanic might not be totally wrong about using Engine oil for your steering pump , he just got it all mixed up with the Engine oil specification . Most newer cars don't run on ATF anymore but on power steering hydraulic oil which is closer to the normal engine oil but a bit lighter. A lighter engine oil could do on a temporary measure basis just like applying ATF + 4 usage will also be a temporary measure.
All recommended oils for your vehicle can be found in the car manual.
I strongly suggest you get a steering fluid which are mostly hydraulic base and are not the same with the Automatic Transmission Fluid
We do have exceptions with the Engine oil in some cases depending the climate you imported the car from.
You might find the right viscosity of your oil by also putting the climate conditions that car was built for and your present climate.

AutoManual:
i tire for all this mechanics oh, i have been wasting money here and there because of them. I will go buy the atf oil today. Its a brand new pump. Which brand oil should i pour inside?

I noticed the steering is not as free for a new pump.

The problem is enugu lack professional mechanic service. Na kazeem full here and later they will say honda is not reliable not knowing they dont know anything.

Even Kazeem will not use engine oil in the place of ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid).