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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Jagabanarmy: 12:40am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
HUNGARY, A Parliamentary Republic Is A Member Of EU AND NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8JI-eYQylg
Speaking in a Bloomberg interview at the Qatar Economic Forum, Orban argued:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-23/ukraine-can-t-win-war-against-russia-hungarian-premier-says

ALJAZEERA


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/5/23/hungarys-orban-says-poor-ukrainians-cannot-win-the-war
Always talking trash! Ukraine is winning the war. Russia is the oppressor here and they must leave Ukraine before any peaceful resolution. This is a senseless war Putin started and he will be disgrace. No inch of Ukrainian land will be given to Russia. Never!!! NB: Anybody that supports Russia is an evil person and hates truth
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by INDUSTRIALFAN(m): 1:01am On May 24, 2023
slimmax:
See how you are contradicting yourself. Replace putin with zelensky and read your statement again
Read my own statement again then read what led to the war then come back and quote what I already typed there…. Incase you can’t go back to read the root cause, here is a summary.. “NATO already had an agreement in the past not to go near the territory of the Soviets and as part of that agreement, Ukraine sharing a border with Russia cannot be part of NATO because if it is, it means America can have military bases in Ukraine and that opens Russia up to infiltration and spy risks which Russia cannot have. The US being the troublemakers that they are kept increasing their reach and when they finally got to the borders of Ukraine, convinced Zelensky to join NATO (knowing fully well Russia will kick). Zelensky for whatever reason (which was a stupid one) decided that he didn’t care if he exposes Russia and decided he’d rather fight Russia to give land to opponents of the Soviets to have their military bases built in a country that shares borderlands with another world power. The US will never tolerate Russia going to Mexico to build a military base for same reason Putin is now fighting Ukraine so like I said, Putin is not zelensky’s problem. His problem is The US…. By invaders, i meant NATO.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Morphinne: 1:02am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
HUNGARY, A Parliamentary Republic Is A Member Of EU AND NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8JI-eYQylg
Speaking in a Bloomberg interview at the Qatar Economic Forum, Orban argued:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-23/ukraine-can-t-win-war-against-russia-hungarian-premier-says

ALJAZEERA


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/5/23/hungarys-orban-says-poor-ukrainians-cannot-win-the-war
But here in Nigeria, our mumu nairaland online war analysts and veterans are saying otherwise because they are the ones at the war front grin
No negotiation is needed jere, Ukraine is winning. Ghost of Kyiv dey show Putin shege
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Blazebond(m): 1:05am On May 24, 2023
What I have been saying from day one,this war is being spearheaded by the u.s.a and u.k,nobody else in Europe really wants it anymore, Europe must free herself from the grasp of the u.s, poor and defenceless Ukrainians are dying and zelensky is still touring European countries looking for more weapons.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Morphinne:
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.
The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.
I still don’t understand why a lot of Africans don’t understand this and how it serves as one of the many events that ultimately formed the prelude to the conflicts we are all seeing today. It didn’t start last year. What the USA is doing in Ukraine today is a typical example of doing to others what you are never going to tolerate. They were ready to go into an all-out war with Cuba for proposing to host Russian military bases and missiles and their reasons for it was that Cuba was just 2400km away from the US mainland and today they are planning to do same to the Russians from a 105km distance away but if we talk, the lunàtics here on Nairaland would say we are pained because we were denied US visas grin Isn’t this madness?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 1:22am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone
I guess history has been kind to USA and NATO who invaded Iraq 🇮🇶 for no reason
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 1:23am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone
I guess history has been kind to USA and NATO who invaded Iraq 🇮🇶 for no reason ?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 1:24am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone
I guess history has been kind to USA and NATO who invaded Iraq 🇮🇶 for no reason ?🤡
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by CodeTemplar: 1:30am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
HUNGARY, A Parliamentary Republic Is A Member Of EU AND NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8JI-eYQylg
Speaking in a Bloomberg interview at the Qatar Economic Forum, Orban argued:


"The Ukraine’s military effort is doomed and sending further aid will only lead to more deaths."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/5/23/hungarys-orban-says-poor-ukrainians-cannot-win-the-war
Your cheap and amateurishness propaganda won't sway even a fly or mosquito. We know Russia is struggling badly. This argument is more of a plea because Ukraine was invaded and only defence gave them survival chance.

Putin desperation to replicate this argument as action in battlefield by using cheap Iranian drones to blackmail Ukraine won't deter neither Ukrainians, the president nor the backers of Ukraine.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 1:32am On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:
Only an idiot will in the first place expect Ukraine to beat Russia in battle.....NATO cannot save Ukraine the earlier Ukraine goes back to the Minsk agreement the better for them. NATO cannot do more than they are doing. The fighter jets they want to give Ukraine stands no chance against Russias air defence system which is the best air defence system in the world ahead of Israel's iron Dome self. The more the war rages on, the tighter the doors of peace closes on Ukraine.......
They can’t fly any fighter jet 🛩️ sent to them to Russia 🇷🇺 that will lead to WWlll
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 1:38am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:
So, Ukraine should
1. Forget Cremia
2. Forget her Sea Ports
3. Forget her steel factories
4. Forget her grain farms

What will now be the gain of Ukraine since these will forever cripple her economy!
Ukraine will become a land-locked nation who will need to seek the permission of Russia to export anything

Moreover, there is NO iota of guarantee that Russia will not come for any other asset they desire in Ukraine.
Then think about what the USA did to poor Cuba 🇨🇺
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 1:41am On May 24, 2023
Goodlady:
So you should call out US as if it's US that ordered Putin to display his blood thirsty acts. I see you belong to the evil clan.
And I keep asking boys like you the question. Pick one btw Russian and American visa. You ll jump at the later.
You v been packaging the evil Russia so much that your evil is stretching it's arm. You and WritersNG.
Yes the war should end. We ll see if it's not Putin that ll be prosecuted & executed.
Everyone that's alive doesn't know how he ll die. It could be that Putin ll die ontop electric pole or just one N200 apple ll send him beyond. Same goes to people like you that are romancing evil.
Let the world hear.
The Islamic countries are even happy with Putin's madness towards his neighbors. Yet the madman is only dreaming of conquering America. As if Americans are the cause of his insecure mind!
You have no clue what is going on you only want USA visa we all want USA visa too.
You should read a little bit about the Cold War how it ended and little bit about Cuba your view about USA will change .
They are the real evil 😈 who don’t want any competition
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Diddycsbsb: 1:43am On May 24, 2023
If there is no war there will be no peace
What doesn't kill you will make you stronger

Ukraine🇺🇦 will make peace with Russia 🇷🇺 sooner
But after this Ukrainian will become world supper power bcoz Putin🇷🇺 has made Ukraine more stronger relevant than Russian him self.

After this War many countries will be scared of Ukraine🇺🇦, like they are scared of Israel🇮🇱 this is what I have seen.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 2:34am On May 24, 2023
TobiAbuja:
Complete and utter rubbish. Giving excuses to mass murderers. Orban is a certified Putin puppet. Everyone knows it apart from the OP and the FP pusher.
How many the original nazi people
Germany and Italy now members of NATO after what they have down to human kind the Russia you are talking about today help to stop them . Without the help of the red army the Allied Army won’t have defeated Nazi
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 2:45am On May 24, 2023
Topmaike007:
him no know wetin dey happen I dey follow the war wella on telegram with video Ukraine don finish nothing remain again
Please which channel in telegram?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 3:06am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:
You've only been talking about uncle Sam. What is the offence of Ukraine?

What was the strategic goal of Putin for annexing Cremia in 2014 with respect to Ukraine?
By trying to bring the enemy to her neighbor doorstep 2008

Think reason for a second do you think USA will allow Russia to do anything with Mexico 🇲🇽?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Gbadebo19(m): 3:06am On May 24, 2023
Bigmouth3:
This Ukraine war shows the level of intelligence of so many people .
Why can't you ask why nato is encircling Russia?
What happened to the agreement of not expanding East wards ?
Will America allow Canada or Mexico to have a Russian base there ?
Have yoy ever asked how a pro Russian president was removed by America and install their puppet ?
Have you ever read about the cuban missle crisis ?
You honestly dont have brains. Countries join nato out of their own voalition, it doesnt "expand". If russia was good to its neighbours, why would they run as far as make alliance with the west? The cuban missile crisis: The usa never complained until russia started installing intercontinental ballistic missiles. You obviously have zero knowledge on what you are talking about.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TheGift: 3:33am On May 24, 2023
StudyBarn:
Your entire country has been reduced to rubble, mass ptsd from constant air raid sirens. So much winning.
Did I tell you that I am from Ukraine? Just stating the facts. It's nothing personal or sentimental.

Overall though, I still believe it is better to risk death for freedom than to embrace life as slaves to one Man's whims and caprices.

As they say: He who fights and runs away , lives to fight another day. And even when alive a coward dies a thousand deaths.?

The Ukrainians chose the part of bravery and dignity rather than cowardice and ignominy. Putin the paranoid tyrant , on the other hand, has lost His global leader legacy and will surely go down in infamy. However this War ends.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by MondayOsunbor(m): 3:36am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
Yoruba Muslim ! Thinking
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by fredoooooo: 4:06am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
You're calling the UN created and ruled by the West to arrest the western leaders... IMPOSSIBLE.
I know the aggressor no matter the propaganda..THE WEST is the aggressor and the evil.. they can paint it all they want, it's the truth.
Must dey dip their evil faces on everything?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Onyiiobi7735(m): 4:10am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you
Only God knows when exactly the war would end, because Ukraine isn't ready to accept Russia's conditions.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by egoldman(m): 4:20am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
In all this ur ranting, you forgot the invader, you dey smoke igbo.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Chetas81(m): 4:21am On May 24, 2023
You that wrote this you're more poorer than Ukraine citizen
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by egoldman(m): 4:23am On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:
Let your posterity start with all U.S presidents that have ordered the invasion of weaker countries since mid 19th century down to Libya. Mr Posterity.
So because the USA have invaded some countries, Russia should do there own too right?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Chetas81(m): 4:24am On May 24, 2023
Smartguyboy:
Then think about what the USA did to poor Cuba 🇨🇺
Poor Nigerian always add poor to their sentence
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by egoldman(m): 4:25am On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:
You called him a hypocrite because he was smart enough not to hurt his country's economy by joining US vassals to sanction Russia. They Wanted him to stop buying Russian oil that his country relies on heavily but he said capital NO.

How is he a hypocrite he had been stating the fact and obvious since the beginning of the war by saying Ukraine cannot win that NATO and Ukraine should sue for peace.
How about Fulani herdsmen invading your village, killing raping burning and other cruel things, then you will be asked to sue for peace.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by juman(m): 5:26am On May 24, 2023
Ukrainians are utterly idiootts.
They are foolsss that are willingly wasting their lives to please America.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by juman(m): 5:30am On May 24, 2023
I consider Nigerian Christians as also heedless.
Next president suppose to be a Christian person but they threw it away, they picked atiku instead.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by juman(m): 5:41am On May 24, 2023
European economy is damaged by the war.
The world economy is in recession caused by the war.

Everything is expensive now.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 5:58am On May 24, 2023
Smartguyboy:
By trying to bring the enemy to her neighbor doorstep 2008

Think reason for a second do you think USA will allow Russia to do anything with Mexico 🇲🇽?
This is naivity !
Do you know that one of the fundamental rights of any nation is Freedom of Association?


Let me test your maturity:
Before the war (2021), Russia and China signed a bilateral agreement of no limit and no forbidden zone with each other where militarily, technologically and economy, the two countries will relate with each other.

Does Ukraine have the right to invade Russia for forming an alliance of "no limit, no forbidden zones " with China?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 6:00am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
1.The Russians did build a base in Cuba...what was at stake in the 1962 Cuban misslie crisis was the placement of tactical nuclear weapons on the Cuban base. (The Russian base was there till the 1990's at least. US meanwhile still maintains a base at Guantanamo.).

2. All you have said does not justify Russia invading Ukraine. Just as all those who come here to defend US bombing Afghanistan, Iraq and so on are wrong. At the end, innocent people are dying for nothing.

You Russian fans and US fans should stop backing either nation. Because tomorrow, Russia or US can wake up and decide to bomb Nigeria because it is in their security interests. Countries should not invade other countries.
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