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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Minjim: 7:48am On May 24, 2023 |
God1000: Why are people failing to realise that Russia invaded Ukraine? Ukraine has not even taken the war to Russia. Russians are living peacefully. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Gbadebo19(m): 7:48am On May 24, 2023 |
Bigmouth3:your argument shows that you have no credible standpoint for castigating the U.S but simply because you want them to have a competitor. The weapons and whatever goods you buy from china are still not up to the quality and durability of America's. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Xammie001(m): 7:49am On May 24, 2023 |
I'm happy we still have people that know history, Many people are calling Putin names shunning the history of the United State of America,Sanctions should be given heavily without hesitation and fairly lhordspy: |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 7:51am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly:1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory 2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory 3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians? Are you aware that 1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic? 2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries? Please, respond to each question carefully 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kukutenla: 7:53am On May 24, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland:Are you Russian |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 7:55am On May 24, 2023 |
Smartguyboy:Are you defending Ukraine or you want Russia to cripple their economy? How do you want Ukraine to survive economically after Russia has taken 1. All their seaports 2. Their iron and steel companie 3. The fertile land in the Donbas are where wheat is grown. What if after this, Putin request to annex Kyiv and the whole of Ukraine to Russia,: what will your advice to Ukraine be? |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by frankson1(m): 7:57am On May 24, 2023 |
God1000: The Hungarian PM is a hypocrite because he doesn't support the continuous waste of resources without any impact and calls for peace. You support the US and hail them for invading other countries but it's a crime now since it's not the US doing the invasion even though they have a hand in it. Make all of una dey play 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by pafo(m): 8:03am On May 24, 2023 |
God1000: See a "PRESIDENT" that understands what is happening over there tell you the only way fir peace is for US to negotiate with Russia and for NATO to stop its expansion but yiur cloudy head still made you put it all in Putin and his troops withdrawing from Ukraine. Go and withdraw them na. 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Diligent1(f): 8:11am On May 24, 2023 |
Hmmmm |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:30am On May 24, 2023 |
TenQ: Where were you when legit elected Yanukovich was ousted by US coup in Kiev? That grave mistake took place in 2014. Ukraine is still paying the price till 2moro People who were singing "Ukraine is winning" are suddenly crying that Ukraine is bleeding. Fake news has fallen flat on its face... Russia jejely left Cuba when US demanded that they should exit Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis. US led Nato terrorists should have jejely left Ukraine. They felt Russia is too small to resist, they fvcked around & found out the hard way. Ukraine remains destroyed.
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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 8:32am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly: Russia removed its nuclear missiles from Cuba, in return for the USA removing nuclear missiles from Turkey then...in 1962. It did not stop them from maintaining a millitary base in Cuba till the 1990's though. Something always goes for something in international relations. P.S US dropping bombs on other countries does not mean that Russia should do same in Ukraine...it just makes them as bad as the USA. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kholar211: 8:33am On May 24, 2023 |
lhordspy:why complicating the whole issue, any member that's tired of the alliance should opt out. I wonder why Hungary is still a member thou. Many are ready to reconsider their neutrality after Russia invasion of Ukraine to join NATO. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kholar211: 8:36am On May 24, 2023 |
Antiochus:DUMB QUESTION |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Jagabanarmy: 8:36am On May 24, 2023 |
Topmaike007:Why supporting evil? Who started this senseless war? They thought Ukraine is Georgia. Do you know what Russia did to Georgia? I don't know why people support evil |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:43am On May 24, 2023 |
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal. De-dollarization is accelerating. nairalanda1: |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 8:45am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly: It still does not make Russia invasion of Ukraine right. You better not back Russia or the US. None of these countries have your interest or mine at heart. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Mantilla(m): 8:46am On May 24, 2023 |
Please can someone explain to me why Russia have to reach agreement with the US for the war to end ? Am lost . |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:47am On May 24, 2023 |
The era of western degenerates dictating trash to sovereign nations have come to an end. Welcome to a brave new multipolar world. nairalanda1: 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 8:50am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly: It still does not make Russia bombing Ukraine right. Stop justifying evil. And no, I don't back the USA, so take your message elsewhere. Times change. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 8:53am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly:Your objective, to see Ukraine Destroyed! Why? You cannot tell! PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE 1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory 2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory 3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians? Are you aware that 1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic? 2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries? Please, respond to each question carefully |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:55am On May 24, 2023 |
Never again will terrorists in Washington impose their hegemony on sovereign nations. It is game over forever. nairalanda1: |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 9:00am On May 24, 2023 |
TenQ: My objective? Really? Am I fighting there? Did I send any fighters there? O boy I am stating the obvious. Sentiments cannot change this fact. When you say Libya & Yemen are destroyed, will it be correct for me to call it your objective?🤔 Talk from now till 2moro, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING! The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal. Meanwhile, unfortunate Ukraine remains destroyed. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by able20(m): 9:02am On May 24, 2023 |
Na waa for Putin sef, he should tamper justice with mercy. But the USA and UK press are the worst propagandist on earth. Even with the physical destruction going on in Ukraine, the selfish NATO still encourages Ukraine to keep up the fight against Russia, one day they will defeat Russia. They call it a motivational speech 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by 9gerian: 9:06am On May 24, 2023 |
A terrible stunt imo. The Ukrainian people were never truly considered in all of these. The question is: did Zelenski know before the invasion that the US and NATO will not be directly intervening in the war, and if yes, why was Ukraine then adamant in refusing to negotiate, and in a way giving Russia no other option. It is on record that prior to the Russian invasion, the Ukrainian military had killed about 14,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas region since 2014, and that they were trying to finish off the Russian insurgents (imminent in December 2022) before Russia took up the challenge to protect its ethnic population in Eastern Ukraine. The Minsk 2 agreement should have been renegotiated as it only mainly required Ukraine neutrality and autonomy for the Donbas people. Win-win when you consider that you are dealing with a superpower who is right next door. Look at Cuba today, just because it confronted a neighboring superpower, the US in the 1960s. That nation has remained a shadow of itself. Same fate awaits Ukraine. And yes, maybe the deal was considered by some Ukrainians and nato as an affront and a molestation by Russia (which is how things are viewed culturally), but a potential war is far much worse. Ukrainians voted Zelenski because he promise them he would pursue peace. Cooler heads could have prevailed and the rhetoric to join NATO dropped to save the day. And yes, the US would have done exactly the same as Russia against a Cuba or Mexico or Venezuela that decides to bring an enemy military alliance into its hemisphere or border to challenge it. Now the EU is losing its competitive advantage against other blocks, and the US is equally losing its geopolitical influence. This is whilst the petrodollar is gradually being migrated away from, as more nations explore dumping. This has been one big destructive experiment by the west. May God give all the concerned leaders and people the wisdom to end the war early enough before it gets to a nuclear exchange, which would definitely force an end to the war anyways. Adjovi: 1 Like
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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Greyworld: 9:08am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly:You think China is better? Consider working for an American firm vs Chinese firm and testify. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 9:11am On May 24, 2023 |
Western thugs will no longer dictate to sovereign nations anymore. Welcome to a brave new multipolar world Greyworld: 1 Like |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kukutenla: 9:17am On May 24, 2023 |
lhordspy:Even though I don't agree with your stand, I have to commend that you write from a logical and quite simple commonsense point of view. It's hard to believe you're the same bloke who wrote that shameful gazelle gagaraga epistle. You brought yourself to the lowest level of infamy with that one. |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Antiochus(m): 9:22am On May 24, 2023 |
Kholar211: |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 9:39am On May 24, 2023 |
Bossly:The enemy of my friend is my enemy: I hear you! |
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 9:47am On May 24, 2023 |
TenQ: The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.
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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by exnovio(m): 10:00am On May 24, 2023 |
A man with sense is talking now but the dafts wouldn’t listen 1 Like |
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