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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Minjim: 7:48am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you




Why are people failing to realise that Russia invaded Ukraine?
Ukraine has not even taken the war to Russia.
Russians are living peacefully.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Gbadebo19(m): 7:48am On May 24, 2023
Bigmouth3:

You know nothing about int politics ,unfortunately for you ,I will not educate you for free.wallow in your ignorance.
If you are intelligent enough, you will know that if russia falls or china, the west will walk over the whole world.
Politics is all about interest and the interest of nigeria/Africa aligns with the global South.
Now you can stand up to the USA and trade with China or Russia, buy weapons from them ,just imagine if the west was only your choice .just imagine
your argument shows that you have no credible standpoint for castigating the U.S but simply because you want them to have a competitor. The weapons and whatever goods you buy from china are still not up to the quality and durability of America's.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Xammie001(m): 7:49am On May 24, 2023
I'm happy we still have people that know history, Many people are calling Putin names shunning the history of the United State of America,Sanctions should be given heavily without hesitation and fairly




lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 7:51am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:


Ukronazis gave their territory to the collapsing hegemons to threaten & undermine Russia.
The rogue hegemons built bioweapons labs around Ukraine with Russia as their key target.
The rogue hegemons backed Kiev in to their brutal destruction of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. The ethnic cleansing of Russians in Ukraine became a norm.

These are some of Ukraine's offence. A very costly offence that has destroyed them forever.
1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory
2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory
3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians?

Are you aware that
1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic?
2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic
Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries?

Please, respond to each question carefully

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kukutenla: 7:53am On May 24, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
US over hyped F series Jets some major mishaps since 2020 among many :😂

2023:
May: F16 crashed in SK😂
F18 crashed in Spain😂
2022:
Jan: F35A belly danced crash in SK😂
F16V crashed in Taiwan 😂
F35C crashed in south China sea😂
Mar: F16 crashed in Louisiana(US)😂

2021

Jul: F16A crashed in Belgium 😂
Nov: F35B crashed in Mediterranean😂

2020:
Jan: F16 crashed in Egypt😂
MAY: F22 crashed in Florida😂
F35 crashed in US😂
Jun: F15c crashed in Northsea😂
Sep: F35B crashed in California😂

Oct: F/A-18E crashed in California 😂
Dec: F16 crashed in Michigan


So many wonder weapons have actually failed on the battle field, even the Patriot system failed. F-16 is an old fighter jet, next will be F-35, after that what next? Will you end up giving them nuclear weapons? When will you realize that Ukraine is no match for Russia? The Russians have only shown you one wonder weapon which you can't comprehend.
Which is the ultimate non hyperbolic hypersonic weapon..


Military 101
How You win a war before you fight a war

Jesus said to win a war you must have more men than the other side and which shows you must have more weapons than the other one if not seek peace quickly least you be destroyed.

Luke 14
31 “Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Won’t he first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32 If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace.



God bless putin God bless mother Russia.
Are you Russian
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 7:55am On May 24, 2023
Smartguyboy:

They have been starving a whole country for life is it not better than annexed?
Are you defending Ukraine or you want Russia to cripple their economy?

How do you want Ukraine to survive economically after Russia has taken
1. All their seaports
2. Their iron and steel companie
3. The fertile land in the Donbas are where wheat is grown.




What if after this, Putin request to annex Kyiv and the whole of Ukraine to Russia,: what will your advice to Ukraine be?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by frankson1(m): 7:57am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone




The Hungarian PM is a hypocrite because he doesn't support the continuous waste of resources without any impact and calls for peace.

You support the US and hail them for invading other countries but it's a crime now since it's not the US doing the invasion even though they have a hand in it.

Make all of una dey play undecided

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by pafo(m): 8:03am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you




See a "PRESIDENT" that understands what is happening over there tell you the only way fir peace is for US to negotiate with Russia and for NATO to stop its expansion but yiur cloudy head still made you put it all in Putin and his troops withdrawing from Ukraine.

Go and withdraw them na.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Diligent1(f): 8:11am On May 24, 2023
Hmmmm
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:30am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:

1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory
2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory
3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians?

Are you aware that
1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic?
2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic
Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries?

Please, respond to each question carefully


Where were you when legit elected Yanukovich was ousted by US coup in Kiev?
That grave mistake took place in 2014. Ukraine is still paying the price till 2moro cry

People who were singing "Ukraine is winning" are suddenly crying that Ukraine is bleeding.
Fake news has fallen flat on its face...

Russia jejely left Cuba when US demanded that they should exit Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis.
US led Nato terrorists should have jejely left Ukraine. They felt Russia is too small to resist, they fvcked around & found out the hard way.

Ukraine remains destroyed.

Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 8:32am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:





Where were you when legit elected Yanukovich was ousted by US backed coup in Kiev?
That grave mistake took place in 2014. Ukraine is still paying the price till 2moro cry

People who were singing "Ukraine is winning" are suddenly crying that Ukraine is bleeding.
Fake news has fallen flat on its face...

Russia jejely left Cuba when US demanded that they should exit Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis.
US led Nato terrorists should have jejely left Ukraine. They felt Russia is too small to resist, they fvcked around & found out the hard way.

Ukraine remains destroyed.


Russia removed its nuclear missiles from Cuba, in return for the USA removing nuclear missiles from Turkey then...in 1962.

It did not stop them from maintaining a millitary base in Cuba till the 1990's though.

Something always goes for something in international relations.



P.S

US dropping bombs on other countries does not mean that Russia should do same in Ukraine...it just makes them as bad as the USA.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kholar211: 8:33am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:


Anyone who opposes the experiment NATO is using the innocent Ukrainian lives to carry out ;is automatically a PUTIN friend ?. Lol

Mr Man. Hungary is a member of not just EU but NATO. Man is trying to tell the world members of NATO are tired of financing a lost cause. US and UK are on their own.
why complicating the whole issue, any member that's tired of the alliance should opt out. I wonder why Hungary is still a member thou. Many are ready to reconsider their neutrality after Russia invasion of Ukraine to join NATO.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kholar211: 8:36am On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:


Name them. Please name the atrocities Russia had comitted in other countries. And at what time did they commit it in history.
DUMB QUESTION
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Jagabanarmy: 8:36am On May 24, 2023
Topmaike007:
you never wake up ?? Ukraine will be landlocked just watch out
Why supporting evil? Who started this senseless war? They thought Ukraine is Georgia. Do you know what Russia did to Georgia? I don't know why people support evil
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:43am On May 24, 2023
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

De-dollarization is accelerating.

nairalanda1:



Russia removed its nuclear missiles from Cuba, in return for the USA removing nuclear missiles from Turkey then...in 1962.

It did not stop them from maintaining a millitary base in Cuba till the 1990's though.

Something always goes for something in international relations.



P.S

US dropping bombs on other countries does not mean that Russia should do same in Ukraine...it just makes them as bad as the USA.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 8:45am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

De-dollarization is accelerating.


It still does not make Russia invasion of Ukraine right.

You better not back Russia or the US. None of these countries have your interest or mine at heart.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Mantilla(m): 8:46am On May 24, 2023
Please can someone explain to me why Russia have to reach agreement with the US for the war to end ?
Am lost .
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:47am On May 24, 2023
The era of western degenerates dictating trash to sovereign nations have come to an end.

Welcome to a brave new multipolar world.

nairalanda1:


It still does not make Russia invasion of Ukraine right.

You better not back Russia or the US. None of these countries have your interest or mine at heart.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 8:50am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:
The era of western degenerates dictating trash to sovereign nations have come to an end.

Welcome to a brave new multipolar world.


It still does not make Russia bombing Ukraine right.

Stop justifying evil.

And no, I don't back the USA, so take your message elsewhere. Times change.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 8:53am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:




Where were you when legit elected Yanukovich was ousted by US coup in Kiev?
That grave mistake took place in 2014. Ukraine is still paying the price till 2moro cry

People who were singing "Ukraine is winning" are suddenly crying that Ukraine is bleeding.
Fake news has fallen flat on its face...

Russia jejely left Cuba when US demanded that they should exit Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis.
US led Nato terrorists should have jejely left Ukraine. They felt Russia is too small to resist, they fvcked around & found out the hard way.

Ukraine remains destroyed.
Your objective, to see Ukraine Destroyed!
Why?
You cannot tell!


PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE


1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory
2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory
3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians?

Are you aware that
1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic?
2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic
Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries?

Please, respond to each question carefully
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 8:55am On May 24, 2023
Never again will terrorists in Washington impose their hegemony on sovereign nations.

It is game over forever.


nairalanda1:


It still does not make Russia bombing Ukraine right.

Stop justifying evil.

And no, I don't back the USA, so take your message elsewhere. Times change.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 9:00am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:

Your objective, to see Ukraine Destroyed!
Why?
You cannot tell!



My objective? Really?

Am I fighting there? Did I send any fighters there?

O boy I am stating the obvious. Sentiments cannot change this fact.
When you say Libya & Yemen are destroyed, will it be correct for me to call it your objective?🤔

Talk from now till 2moro, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING!
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

Meanwhile, unfortunate Ukraine remains destroyed.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by able20(m): 9:02am On May 24, 2023
Na waa for Putin sef, he should tamper justice with mercy.
But the USA and UK press are the worst propagandist on earth.
Even with the physical destruction going on in Ukraine, the selfish NATO still encourages Ukraine to keep up the fight against Russia, one day they will defeat Russia.
They call it a motivational speech

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by 9gerian: 9:06am On May 24, 2023
A terrible stunt imo. The Ukrainian people were never truly considered in all of these.

The question is: did Zelenski know before the invasion that the US and NATO will not be directly intervening in the war, and if yes, why was Ukraine then adamant in refusing to negotiate, and in a way giving Russia no other option. It is on record that prior to the Russian invasion, the Ukrainian military had killed about 14,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas region since 2014, and that they were trying to finish off the Russian insurgents (imminent in December 2022) before Russia took up the challenge to protect its ethnic population in Eastern Ukraine.

The Minsk 2 agreement should have been renegotiated as it only mainly required Ukraine neutrality and autonomy for the Donbas people. Win-win when you consider that you are dealing with a superpower who is right next door. Look at Cuba today, just because it confronted a neighboring superpower, the US in the 1960s. That nation has remained a shadow of itself. Same fate awaits Ukraine.

And yes, maybe the deal was considered by some Ukrainians and nato as an affront and a molestation by Russia (which is how things are viewed culturally), but a potential war is far much worse. Ukrainians voted Zelenski because he promise them he would pursue peace. Cooler heads could have prevailed and the rhetoric to join NATO dropped to save the day.

And yes, the US would have done exactly the same as Russia against a Cuba or Mexico or Venezuela that decides to bring an enemy military alliance into its hemisphere or border to challenge it.

Now the EU is losing its competitive advantage against other blocks, and the US is equally losing its geopolitical influence. This is whilst the petrodollar is gradually being migrated away from, as more nations explore dumping.

This has been one big destructive experiment by the west. May God give all the concerned leaders and people the wisdom to end the war early enough before it gets to a nuclear exchange, which would definitely force an end to the war anyways.


Adjovi:
Only an idiot will in the first place expect Ukraine to beat Russia in battle.....NATO cannot save Ukraine the earlier Ukraine goes back to the Minsk agreement the better for them. NATO cannot do more than they are doing. The fighter jets they want to give Ukraine stands no chance against Russias air defence system which is the best air defence system in the world ahead of Israel's iron Dome self. The more the war rages on, the tighter the doors of peace closes on Ukraine.......

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Greyworld: 9:08am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:
The era of western degenerates dictating trash to sovereign nations have come to an end.

Welcome to a brave new multipolar world.

You think China is better?

Consider working for an American firm vs Chinese firm and testify.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 9:11am On May 24, 2023
Western thugs will no longer dictate to sovereign nations anymore.
Welcome to a brave new multipolar world

Greyworld:

You think China is better?

Consider working for an American firm vs Chinese firm and testify.

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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Kukutenla: 9:17am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
Even though I don't agree with your stand, I have to commend that you write from a logical and quite simple commonsense point of view. It's hard to believe you're the same bloke who wrote that shameful gazelle gagaraga epistle. You brought yourself to the lowest level of infamy with that one.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Antiochus(m): 9:22am On May 24, 2023
Kholar211:
DUMB QUESTION

tongue
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 9:39am On May 24, 2023
Bossly:


My objective? Really?

Am I fighting there? Did I send any fighters there?

O boy I am stating the obvious. Sentiments cannot change this fact.
When you say Libya & Yemen are destroyed, will it be correct for me to call it your objective?🤔

Talk from now till 2moro, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING!
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

Meanwhile, unfortunate Ukraine remains destroyed.

The enemy of my friend is my enemy: I hear you!
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 9:47am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:

The enemy of my friend is my enemy: I hear you!


The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by exnovio(m): 10:00am On May 24, 2023
A man with sense is talking now but the dafts wouldn’t listen

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