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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Dpaulie(m): 6:00am On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:
Name them. Please name the atrocities Russia had comitted in other countries. And at what time did they commit it in history.
Don't be kid bro
Russia has invaded more than 20 countries of the world
So Ukrainian own not the first
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 6:05am On May 24, 2023
Smartguyboy:
I guess history has been kind to USA and NATO who invaded Iraq 🇮🇶 for no reason ?
USA has lost a lot of prestige, and money as a result of the invasion of Iraq. Yes, they can use their power to mitigate, but the fact is, most countries do not trust them at all.

Same issue with Russia now.

By the way, US bombing Iraq and Afghanistan does not give Russia the right to bomb Ukraine. Ukraine too should have stayed neutral, and Russia too should have not been trying to dominate its neighbours.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by TenQ: 6:05am On May 24, 2023
Smartguyboy:
Then think about what the USA did to poor Cuba 🇨🇺
USA invaded Cuba and Annexed it!

Did USA challenged USSR directly and negotiated the return of the secretly stashed Soviet missiles in Cuba or annexed Cuba?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 6:07am On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:
Name them. Please name the atrocities Russia had comitted in other countries. And at what time did they commit it in history.
Russia used to be an empire. They got there by conquering a lot of countries...Ukraine (centuries ago), Georgia, the stans, most of the Eastern parts, Finland (yes, Finland...got independence from Russia in 1918), Poland, Armenia, Azerbajan, etc etc...

Also, Poland is in Nato for a good reason, they were invaded several times by both the Germans, the Austrians and the Russians.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by mAskA78(m): 6:11am On May 24, 2023
lhordspy:
Thank God the whole world is now coming into terms with the true reality.

The next thing now is for us to call-out and further prosecute the already identified evil people who instigated this war in the first place, the war mongers masquerading as world-powers who all in a bid to test, market their latest war invention and weapons; pushed a senseless clown zelensky into sacrificing the lives of innocent soldiers and civilians and turning Ukraine into a battle field.

The US, NATO and EU government officials/member countries who instigated and contributed to this senseless war should be made to give concrete answers and pay. There should be consequences.

The United Nation must investigate this fairly. They should take into account that US almost nuked Cuba for this same reason. They refused allowing Russia build a base in Cuba, saying it is near US and they can't allow it. If not for Russia pulling out. It would have disastrous for Cuba. Infact Cuba is still under heavy sanctions till date, since 1960s. They can't even import Coke. A simple Coke into their country due to Sanctions.

Yet same US are hiding behind NATO to encircle and place war weapons at the doorstep of Russia. We must identify the real aggressors and the people defending themselves in this war. We must all judge this fairly.
Until the world knows this, then peace will reign.
Putin is never to be blamed for this, the useless obama and war mongers democrats politicians are the major problem of this earth. They kill to satisfy their ego in the name of democracy. They're just evil
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Babaken: 6:15am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
There's no need for any argument, you have decided to side with the evil and darkness, but light will surely prevail
are you for real. I with Putin on this one.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Babaken: 6:17am On May 24, 2023
Antiochus:
Name them. Please name the atrocities Russia had comitted in other countries. And at what time did they commit it in history.
not just naming them but give reason why they did so.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Father4all: 6:19am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you
The USA your mentor did more than that in Iraq
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Caseless: 6:30am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone
You people told us how this war would consume Russia and Putin and you all goaded Zelensky to take the risk, now you're sounding emotional.

They had the chance to stop the war, but they chose war. A simple "we're not joining NATO and we can do businesses with Europe and Russia" could have saved us this war.

BTW, where are those celebrities taking pictures, holding guns and ready to fight and defend their country? They thought it was a war in the movie.

Zelensky killed his people.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 6:32am On May 24, 2023
Caseless:
Zelensky killed his people.
Just like Ghaddafi and Saddam killed their people....

Okay....

Don't back Russia or the USA. If they wake up and decide to bomb Nigeria, them go say it is in their interest.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by COMPENGRFRANK(m): 6:38am On May 24, 2023
War and violence when will it endhuh cry
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Caseless: 6:38am On May 24, 2023
nairalanda1:
USA has lost a lot of prestige, and money as a result of the invasion of Iraq. Yes, they can use their power to mitigate, but the fact is, most countries do not trust them at all.

Same issue with Russia now.

By the way, US bombing Iraq and Afghanistan does not give Russia the right to bomb Ukraine. Ukraine too should have stayed neutral, and Russia too should have not been trying to dominate its neighbours.
Dominating neighbors is what USA does best. Russia does it too for security reasons.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 6:44am On May 24, 2023
Caseless:
Dominating neighbors is what USA does best. Russia does it too for security reasons.
USA, Russia and increasingly China are all the same.

That's why I am just not backing a side in this Ukraine war. I can understand why Russia is tetchy (read Russian history and you would see why), but at the same time, I also fully understand why Ukraine wants to join NATO (read Ukranian history , about how they were divided and invaded repeatedly, then read Polish history well well....for why Poland is in NATO).

Every country has interest. What we are seeing here is a clash of interests.

But at the end of the day, one cannot defend Russia for bombing Ukraine, and then come and tell me that USA doing the same thing to Iraq is evil. At the end, big countries should not bomb small countries. Big countries should not mess around with small countries. Russia is creating more issues for themselves...the same way the US did for itself by interferring with other countries...today many people don't like the USA. Just as many countries do not like Russia...even before this invasion.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by infofta(m): 6:44am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
There's no need for any argument, you have decided to side with the evil and darkness, but light will surely prevail
Your father is a friend of my enemy therefore, I'm coming to take over your family house. Don't fight, simply move out and go to Ghana. If you do I will kill your family members. Your friends and neighbours dare not help you to resist me.

How does this sound to you?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Sunisonflex39(m): 6:58am On May 24, 2023
Am.i the only one that first read it as HUNGRY prime Minister..I bin one shout but I come drink small garri to see well..
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Khallicopyro: 6:59am On May 24, 2023
It's obvious they can't defeat Russia... If you can't beat them you join them.... Zelensky the clown should retrace his steps or more deaths and destruction awaits the poor people of Ukraine
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Smartguyboy(m): 6:59am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:
USA invaded Cuba and Annexed it!

Did USA challenged USSR directly and negotiated the return of the secretly stashed Soviet missiles in Cuba or annexed Cuba?
They have been starving a whole country for life is it not better than annexed?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Mrfeel: 7:03am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you
Kid , you sound like Russia is losing the war
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 7:06am On May 24, 2023
TenQ:
What is the offence of Ukraine?
Ukronazis gave their territory to the collapsing hegemons to threaten & undermine Russia.
The rogue hegemons built bioweapons labs around Ukraine with Russia as their key target.
The rogue hegemons backed Kiev in to their brutal destruction of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. The ethnic cleansing of Russians in Ukraine became a norm.

These are some of Ukraine's offence. A very costly offence that has destroyed them forever.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by motih35295(m): 7:09am On May 24, 2023
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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bigmouth3: 7:11am On May 24, 2023
Gbadebo19:
You honestly dont have brains. Countries join nato out of their own voalition, it doesnt "expand". If russia was good to its neighbours, why would they run as far as make alliance with the west? The cuban missile crisis: The usa never complained until russia started installing intercontinental ballistic missiles. You obviously have zero knowledge on what you are talking about.
You know nothing about int politics ,unfortunately for you ,I will not educate you for free.wallow in your ignorance.
If you are intelligent enough, you will know that if russia falls or china, the west will walk over the whole world.
Politics is all about interest and the interest of nigeria/Africa aligns with the global South.
Now you can stand up to the USA and trade with China or Russia, buy weapons from them ,just imagine if the west was only your choice .just imagine
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Topmaike007(m): 7:12am On May 24, 2023
Smartguyboy:
Please which channel in telegram?
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Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Tigerland: 7:14am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Coming from another dictator, he's a friend of Putin, why should NATO send troops when Ukraine isn't a member of the military alliance? That will lead to world war III.

Putin should withdraw his soldiers from Ukraine, then there will be peace.

You invaded my country, killed my people, destroyed the infrastructure and expect me to negotiate with you





But NATO sent troops to Libya to destroy Ghadaffi, was libya a member of NATO?
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Patriotsleague: 7:17am On May 24, 2023
His submissions are on point, very reasonable man, sending F 19 jets to Ukraine will escalate the war tremendously.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by cyprex: 7:18am On May 24, 2023
God1000:
Yeah I know Hungary is a NATO member, but the Hungarian prime minister is a big hypocrite.

History has never been kind to invaders, posterity will judge everyone
Indeed history has not been and will never be fair to invaders of Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Iran, Syria etc.

History will not be fair to those that sat in their rooms to partition a whole continent of Africa at their pleasure
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by blaise26abj(m): 7:19am On May 24, 2023
Adjovi:
Only an idiot will in the first place expect Ukraine to beat Russia in battle.....NATO cannot save Ukraine the earlier Ukraine goes back to the Minsk agreement the better for them. NATO cannot do more than they are doing. The fighter jets they want to give Ukraine stands no chance against Russias air defence system which is the best air defence system in the world ahead of Israel's iron Dome self. The more the war rages on, the tighter the doors of peace closes on Ukraine.......
Said it before and I will say it again . Zelensky is the enemy of the Ukrainian people . If they want progress and stop this war ,someone should put in bullet in his stupid head for the deaths of many Ukrainians
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by nairalanda1(m): 7:20am On May 24, 2023
cyprex:
Indeed history has not been and will never be fair to invaders of Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Iran, Syria etc.

History will not be fair to those that sat in their rooms to partition a whole continent of Africa at their pleasure
Yes, and history would not be fair to countries that use the injustice of the US to justify their own unjust invasions.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Topmaike007(m): 7:20am On May 24, 2023
Jagabanarmy:
Always talking trash! Ukraine is winning the war. Russia is the oppressor here and they must leave Ukraine before any peaceful resolution. This is a senseless war Putin started and he will be disgrace. No inch of Ukrainian land will be given to Russia. Never!!! NB: Anybody that supports Russia is an evil person and hates truth
you never wake up ?? Ukraine will be landlocked just watch out
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 7:23am On May 24, 2023
Donate more tears 😭
Ukraine remains destroyed.

Western degenerates can't do sh¡T

Ransomware:
So go play in the dirt.

Do you think this russia can stand the big green machine? Don't let that shit they feed you in your place of worship confuse you
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by Bossly: 7:25am On May 24, 2023
Donate more tears😭
Ukraine remains ruined.

Western degenerates are in the mud. tongue


Goodlady:
You and the Russian soldiers there can do your worst. That's how we ll eat the akara of Putin and you that's his hypeman too.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by themanderon: 7:29am On May 24, 2023
This is the only man that says it as it is in Europe. He is very much against all these western new age agenda like homosexuality and the rest and he is also against the American fueled war in Ukraine.
Re: There Is No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians - Hungary PM, Orban by godofuck231: 7:35am On May 24, 2023
Na not possible, balogun putin is in power
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