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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 2:58pm On May 29, 2023
43Ronin:

wait na Allah be like Goro. TenQ no go kee person grin
Birds of same feather.
Maybe your TenQ is rebooting. He has not respond to my question concerning SIMILARITIES between LIE and VAIN in Jeremiah 8:8 l qouted and he replied. Lie or vain , which one is correct as the KEY WORD concerning mixture of FALSEHOOD and TRUTH in the Bible ? I have also asked him above that is it from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages the original Word translation to English means LIE or VAIN?
He argued about Arabic language meaning of other religion, here is he who is unable to argue about his religious language MONUMENTAL problem as embedded in Jeremiah 8: 8 translation.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:01pm On May 29, 2023
TenQ:
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Make you reboot well welly
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:05pm On May 29, 2023
TenQ:

If Your Allah isn't satan, why did he turn Jews into Monkeys for fishing on Saturday when he was the one who prevented fishes from surfacing during the week but only on saturday?

Tafsir ibn kathir Quran (7:163)
(And indeed you knew). This Ayah means, O Jews! Remember that Allah sent His torment on the village that disobeyed Him and broke their pledge and their covenant to observe the sanctity of the Sabbath. They began using deceitful means to avoid honoring the Sabbath by placing nets, ropes and artificial pools of water for the purpose of fishing before the Sabbath. When the fish came in abundance on Saturday as usual, they were caught in the ropes and nets for the rest of Saturday. During the night, the Jews collected the fish after the Sabbath ended. When they did that, Allah changed them from humans into monkeys, the animals having the form closest to humans. Their evil deeds and deceit appeared lawful on the surface, but they were in reality wicked. This is why their punishment was compatible with their crime. This story is explained in detail in Surat Al-A`raf, where Allah said:
(And ask them (O Muhammad ) about the town that was by the sea; when they transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath (i.e. Saturday): when their fish came to them openly on the Sabbath day, and did not come to them on the day they had no Sabbath. Thus We made a trial of them, for they used to rebel (disobey Allah).)
(We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised and rejected"wink means, "Allah changed their bodies into those of monkeys and swines. The young people turned into monkeys while the old people turned into swine." Shayban An-Nahwi reported that Qatadah commented on,
Chaii. This is the moonlight tale legalwolf and his likes are regarding as the words of God. This is pitiable.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:06pm On May 29, 2023
TenQ:

Why should I respond to you whose god allah is satan in the shape of a young man with green dress not much different from the Dajjal except that he has two eyes while Dajjal has only one?
Why should I be bothered by your god Allah who is the slave of Mohammed and is a transformer-like shape shifting disabled personality with two right hands on his right shoulder and no left hand?

If I lie: here is the evidence below

You wanted a spanking, here you have it


LegalWolf,
You never learn!
What about the hissing snake, roaring lion, haircut and murderous god of bible?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:08pm On May 29, 2023
FxMasterz:

Chaii. This is the moonlight tale legalwolf and his likes are regarding as the words of God. This is pitiable.
Moon light tale of your moroness and explicit holy porn of SONGS OF SOLOMON in the Bible, which is which?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:08pm On May 29, 2023
LegalWolf:


Lol! Why did you avoid the question about your God being able to salvage his family and ethnic group like plague? A whole god ooooo


Cc: Future thief TenQ
You have not asked me any question. Have you? If I missed your question, you can refer me to it.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:12pm On May 29, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Moon light tale of your moroness and explicit holy porn of SONGS OF SOLOMON in the Bible, which is which?
I just pity you. You can keep wallowing in your deception since you love the lies so much.

Allah turned Jews into monkey... Hahahaha. If you're in your right thinking, you'll research to find out the confirmation of such imbecilic story, but since you love lies, far be it from you.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:14pm On May 29, 2023
FxMasterz:

You have not asked me any question. Have you? If I missed your question, you can refer me to it.
You are free to help your friend in futility efforts of misinformation about Islam, on questions l threw to him above, which he has been avoiding or rebooting on.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:16pm On May 29, 2023
FxMasterz:

I just pity you. You can keep wallowing in your deception since you love the lies so much.

Allah turned Jews into monkey... Hahahaha. If you're in your right thinking, you'll research to find out the confirmation of such imbecilic story, but since you love lies, far be it from you.

Alright
Ok
Tell me the LIES in holy porn Bible of SONGS OF SOLOMON?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:16pm On May 29, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

You are free to help your friend in futility efforts of misinformation about Islam, on questions l threw to him above, which he has been avoiding or rebooting on.
Refer me to the questions. I'm sure he's not avoiding the questions either. There's no hidden thing about the Bible. The Bible is plain.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:23pm On May 29, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


Alright
Ok
Tell me the LIES holy Bible of SONGS OF SOLOMON?
Songs of Solomon was a book written by Solomon in honour of his Ethiopian wife.

The Old testament is a book written to chronicle the formation of Israel as a nation as well as record the activities of their kings.

Solomon was one of the kings of Israel whom God lifted up. He later fell because of disobedience and his love for strange women. The songs of Solomon shows us some of his mistakes. We learn what we should avoid in order not to fall out of God's favor as Solomon did.

In the book of Solomon, we have lessons that could enrich our walk with God. We also catch a revelation of Christ's dealings with His church which you, uncircumcised in the heart can never see.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:36pm On May 29, 2023
FxMasterz:

Refer me to the questions. I'm sure he's not avoiding the questions either. There's no hidden thing about the Bible. The Bible is plain.

Probably , in page 1 or 2 of the thread, he associated the word ' falsehood ' with the Qur'an. I told him that, that was according to his ignorance cum passionate hatred of Islam, not according to Qur'an itself as against Bible which said so according to itself. Then I quoted Jeremiah 8:8, in which the KEY WORD concerning infiltration, interpolation, adulteration and tampering of the Bible is LIE. He replied with another quote in which KEY WORD of the verse concerning mixture of FALSEHOOD and TRUTH in the Bible is VAIN.
My questions from then (pages1 & 2) till now are:
1. How nearness or synonym is Lie and Vain in content or context of Jeremiah 8:8 ?
2. Was it from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages the original Word translated to English means LIE or VAIN ?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:49pm On May 29, 2023
FxMasterz:

Songs of Solomon was a book written by Solomon in honour of his Ethiopian wife.

The Old testament is a book written to chronicle the formation of Israel as a nation as well as record the activities of their kings.

Solomon was one of the kings of Israel whom God lifted up. He later fell because of disobedience and his love for strange women. The songs of Solomon shows us some of his mistakes. We learn what we should avoid in order not to fall out of God's favor as Solomon did.

In the book of Solomon, we have lessons that could enrich our walk with God. We also catch a revelation of Christ's dealings with His church which you, uncircumcised in the heart can never see.
So, Solomon is co-author of the Bible with God according to your first sentence?
If l am uncircumcised in the heart, never be able to see, behind porn mind, body and words ( with which l always won heart of my girl friend and often recommended to my friends for their girl friends) in the Song of Solomon; how circumcised were you in heart to tell me otherwise about Allah, Qur'an and lslam?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:51pm On May 29, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


Probably , in page 1 or 2 of the thread, he associated the word ' falsehood ' with the Qur'an. I told him that, that was according to his ignorance cum passionate hatred of Islam, not according to Qur'an itself as against Bible which said so according to itself. Then I quoted Jeremiah 8:8, in which the KEY WORD concerning infiltration, interpolation, adulteration and tampering of the Bible is LIE. He replied with another quote in which KEY WORD of the verse concerning mixture of FALSEHOOD and TRUTH in the Bible is VAIN.
My questions from then (pages1 & 2) till now are:
1. How nearness or synonym is Lie and Vain in content or context of Jeremiah 8:8 ?
2. Was it from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages the original Word translated to English means LIE or VAIN ?

I don't know what you aim to derive from this question. However, that verse of scripture had to do with a time in Israel when the people had forsaken their God and were still pretending to be worshipping Him. God sent a few prophets warning them about the judgement and the punishment of God that was coming. Jeremiah was one of such prophets. Meanwhile, there were also many self-acclaimed prophets who told the people that there's no judgements coming and that there's no punishment anywhere. They told the people that good things are coming. Jerusalem would flourish. There shall be no war. All these were lies. Jeremiah 8:8 was a warning and and a reprimand for those false prophets.

And, when you keep going through the book, you'll discover how those false prophets were eventually punished. The people who listened to them and rejected the true prophets also bore the judgement of God's wrath. It was severe.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 4:05pm On May 29, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

So, Solomon is co-author of the Bible with God according to your first sentence?
If l am uncircumcised in the heart, never be able to see, behind porn mind, body and words ( with which l always won heart of my girl friend and often recommended to my friends for their girl friends) in the Song of Solomon; how circumcised were you in heart to tell me otherwise about Allah, Qur'an and lslam?

It's you Muslims who claim the Quran was written by Allah. That's why any discrepancy in the book cannot be overlooked. And, it's pathetic that the Quran falls short of what could have been written by the Almighty God. The flaws are numerous. The cover ups by the Muslim scholars don't help matters.

On the other hand, we make no such claims about the Bible. The Bible is an inspired Book. That is a book written by men who were moved by the Spirit of God to write. These men are imperfect beings but God uses their sincerity to bless the world.

Yes, you see, when an uncircumcised mind reads the book of Solomon or any other part of scripture, he comes only in contact with the letters. Just the letters, and he can't see beyond that. He is too blind to the message that the book is passing across.

There are tons of lessons we've learnt from the book in our walk with God.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 12:29am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Birds of same feather.
Maybe your TenQ is rebooting. He has not respond to my question concerning SIMILARITIES between LIE and VAIN in Jeremiah 8:8 l qouted and he replied. Lie or vain , which one is correct as the KEY WORD concerning mixture of FALSEHOOD and TRUTH in the Bible ? I have also asked him above that is it from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages the original Word translation to English means LIE or VAIN?
He argued about Arabic language meaning of other religion, here is he who is unable to argue about his religious language MONUMENTAL problem as embedded in Jeremiah 8: 8 translation.
I have given you a chunk of information to chew if you are truthful>
LOL
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 12:30am On May 30, 2023
FxMasterz:

Chaii. This is the moonlight tale legalwolf and his likes are regarding as the words of God. This is pitiable.
Did you read his cowardly response?

He has bailed with his tail between his thighs

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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 12:35am On May 30, 2023
TenQ:

Did you read his cowardly response?

He has baled with his tail between his thighs

Lolz.

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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 12:38am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

What about the hissing snake, roaring lion, haircut and murderous god of bible?
This was not foe you, it was for legalWolf: when he started to be disrespectful, i gave him exactly his dose. You may read what lead to it the lead to this my response

Why should I respond to you whose god allah is satan in the shape of a young man with green dress not much different from the Dajjal except that he has two eyes while Dajjal has only one?
Why should I be bothered by your god Allah who is the slave of Mohammed and is a transformer-like shape shifting disabled personality with two right hands on his right shoulder and no left hand?

If I lie: here is the evidence below

You wanted a spanking, here you have it


LegalWolf,
You never learn!
According to your prophet, this same "god" of the bible is your allah!

Sunan Abi Dawud 4449: Book 40, Hadith 99
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.
They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.
He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).


Is your prophet lying?
Who is lying you or your prophet?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 12:47am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Moon light tale of your moroness and explicit holy porn of SONGS OF SOLOMON in the Bible, which is which?
gaskiyamagana:


Alright
Ok
Tell me the LIES in holy porn Bible of SONGS OF SOLOMON?
gaskiyamagana:

So, Solomon is co-author of the Bible with God according to your first sentence?
If l am uncircumcised in the heart, never be able to see, behind porn mind, body and words ( with which l always won heart of my girl friend and often recommended to my friends for their girl friends) in the Song of Solomon; how circumcised were you in heart to tell me otherwise about Allah, Qur'an and lslam?


Talking about porn, can you please open your Quran to

Quran 66:12
وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢

Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts, (i.e., safeguarded) so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.

— Dr. Ghali
Dr Ghali was sponsored by Christians, abi?

I am sure you don't know that فَرْجَهَا is Vagina?

What is Allah's mouth doing on the Vagina of Mary?

If this is not porn, what is it?
Blue film!?


Was it Allah or Jibril performing cunnilingus?

Explain how Allah HIMSELF inflated Mary with baby Isa by putting his mouth on her Farjah and blowing hard into it?

Please educate us
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 12:54am On May 30, 2023
FxMasterz:


It's you Muslims who claim the Quran was written by Allah. That's why any discrepancy in the book cannot be overlooked. And, it's pathetic that the Quran falls short of what could have been written by the Almighty God. The flaws are numerous. The cover ups by the Muslim scholars don't help matters.

On the other hand, we make no such claims about the Bible. The Bible is an inspired Book. That is a book written by men who were moved by the Spirit of God to write. These men are imperfect beings but God uses their sincerity to bless the world.

Yes, you see, when an uncircumcised mind reads the book of Solomon or any other part of scripture, he comes only in contact with the letters. Just the letters, and he can't see beyond that. He is too blind to the message that the book is passing across.

There are tons of lessons we've learnt from the book in our walk with God.
Please, dont mind him.
I have given him his response

https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436009
and
https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436029

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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 4:52am On May 30, 2023
TenQ:





Talking about porn, can you please open your Quran to

Quran 66:12
وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢

Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts, (i.e., safeguarded) so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.

— Dr. Ghali
Dr Ghali was sponsored by Christians, abi?

I am sure you don't know that فَرْجَهَا is Vagina?

What is Allah's mouth doing on the Vagina of Mary?

If this is not porn, what is it?
Blue film!?


Was it Allah or Jibril performing cunnilingus?

Explain how Allah HIMSELF inflated Mary with baby Isa by putting his mouth on her Farjah and blowing hard into it?

Please educate us
This is interupted rebooting. I have no response to this as it was not for you. Settle your own before helping the person its mean for. I mean yours as below:
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 4:55am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


Probably , in page 1 or 2 of the thread, he associated the word ' falsehood ' with the Qur'an. I told him that, that was according to his ignorance cum passionate hatred of Islam, not according to Qur'an itself as against Bible which said so according to itself. Then I quoted Jeremiah 8:8, in which the KEY WORD concerning infiltration, interpolation, adulteration and tampering of the Bible is LIE. He replied with another quote in which KEY WORD of the verse concerning mixture of FALSEHOOD and TRUTH in the Bible is VAIN.
My questions from then (pages1 & 2) till now are:
1. How nearness or synonym is Lie and Vain in content or context of Jeremiah 8:8 ?
2. Was it from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages the original Word translated to English means LIE or VAIN ?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 4:58am On May 30, 2023
TenQ:

I have given you a chunk of information to chew if you are truthful>
LOL
Remind me or requote your Chunk of information as l remind you above chunk of questions you are running away from.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 5:07am On May 30, 2023
TenQ:

This was not foe you, it was for legalWolf: when he started to be disrespectful, i gave him exactly his dose. You may read what lead to it the lead to this my response

According to your prophet, this same "god" of the bible is your allah!

Sunan Abi Dawud 4449: Book 40, Hadith 99
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.
They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.
He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).


Is your prophet lying?
Who is lying you or your prophet?

Capital and emphatical YES that God of the Bible is the Allah of the Qur'an; although and sadly with, BUT in JEREMIAH 8:8 through which God of the Bible is characterized with many ABSURDITIES.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 6:10am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

This is interupted rebooting. I have no response to this as it was not for you. Settle your own before helping the person its mean for. I mean yours as below:
This particular one is for you as you raised the issue of pornography .
He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones. You got exactly what you threw in tipper loads.
That's why I responded to your write-up

Talking about porn, can you please open your Quran to

Quran 66:12
وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢

Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts, (i.e., safeguarded) so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.

— Dr. Ghali
Dr Ghali was sponsored by Christians, abi?

I am sure you don't know that فَرْجَهَا is Vagina?

What is Allah's mouth doing on the Vagina of Mary?

If this is not porn, what is it?
Blue film!?


Was it Allah or Jibril performing cunnilingus?

Explain how Allah HIMSELF inflated Mary with baby Isa by putting his mouth on her Farjah and blowing hard into it?

Please educate us
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 6:13am On May 30, 2023
[quote author=gaskiyamagana post=123457185][/quote]
And I have answered your question to explain why the KJV used the word vain rather than lie or falsehood in their translation.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 6:15am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Remind me or requote your Chunk of information as l remind you above chunk of questions you are running away from.
You repeated the Question believing that my absence was an indication of not having an answer to your questions on
1. Jeremiah 8:8 and
2. Your claim of contradictions on Jesus being sent to Israel and being sent to the world.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 6:21am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


Capital and emphatical YES that God of the Bible is the Allah of the Qur'an; although and sadly with, BUT in JEREMIAH 8:8 through which God of the Bible is characterized with many ABSURDITIES.
I don't believe so but you do, then why were you disrespectful of the God of the bible?

gaskiyamagana:

What about the hissing snake, roaring lion, haircut and murderous god of bible ?
gaskiyamagana:

Moon light tale of your moroness and explicit holy porn of SONGS OF SOLOMON in the Bible, which is which?

You may quote the absurdities as whatever you insinuate cannot be close to blowing in a lady's vagina

Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her (vagina) so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.


Tell me if this is not absurd for one who creates by saying "BE Kunfayakun" and it is.
Why this lewdness?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 7:31am On May 30, 2023
TenQ:

You repeated the Question believing that my absence was an indication of not having an answer to your questions on
1. Jeremiah 8:8 and
2. Your claim of contradictions on Jesus being sent to Israel and being sent to the world.

I requoted the questions, this is your answer or requoted answers to them ? As a confused person with confirmed mission , l am not surprised.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 7:41am On May 30, 2023
TenQ:

And I have answered your question to explain why the KJV used the word vain rather than lie or falsehood in their translation.
For others on this thread to judge both of us requote the answer to the original Word translated into English meaning Vain or Lie from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages. Also, the mission coverage of Jesus, lost sheep of the house of Israel or whole world or whole creation, as verses l qouted are confusing and contradicting.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 7:47am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

For others on this thread to judge both of us requote the answer to the original Word translated into English meaning Vain or Lie from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages. Also, the mission coverage of Jesus, lost sheep of the house of Israel or whole world or whole creation, as verses l qouted are confusing and contradicting.


TenQ:

I guess you do not know the meaning of a contradiction.
A contradiction would be
Statement 1: "I was sent to the lost Sheep of the House of Israel!"
Statement 2: "I was NOT sent to the lost Sheep of the House of Israel!"

These two statements above would be contradictions.
However,
The verses you mentioned, Matthew 10:5-6 and John 17:18, do present differing scopes of Jesus' mission.

SHORT ANSWER:
1. While Jesus was Alive, His ministry was to the House of Israel and He sent His Disciples to preach in Israel
2. After the Death and Resurrection of Christ, His ministry was to the World and He sent His Disciples to preach to the whole World



LONG ANSWER:
Let's examine these Scriptures:
In Matthew 10:5-6, Jesus is speaking to His disciples and instructs them as follows:
"These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.'"

Here, Jesus specifically directs His disciples to focus their mission on the "lost sheep of Israel" and not to venture among the Gentiles or Samaritans. This can be seen as a limited scope of the mission at that particular time.

On the other hand, in John 17:18, Jesus is praying to God the Father just before His crucifixion, and He says:
"As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world."

In this context,
Jesus is referring to His disciples and expresses that just as God sent Him into the world, He is sending His disciples into the world.
This broader statement suggests a mission that encompasses more than just the lost sheep of Israel.

While there may appear to be a contradiction between these verses, it is important to consider the different contexts in which they were spoken. Matthew 10:5-6 reflects a specific instruction to the disciples at a particular moment, emphasizing their initial mission among the Jewish people. John 17:18, on the other hand, expresses a broader understanding of the disciples' mission and their subsequent role in spreading the message to the world.

In Christian theology, these passages are reconciled by interpreting the initial focus on the lost sheep of Israel in Matthew 10:5-6 as part of a gradual unfolding of the mission, which eventually encompassed all nations as depicted in John 17:18 and the Great Commission given later in Matthew 28:19-20.

Overall, these statements can be understood in light of different stages and aspects of Jesus' mission and the progression of the early Christian movement.


Finally, Jesus did exactly the same with His disciples
1. Stay in Jerusalem until you are endowed with power
Lk 24:49
“And now I will send the Holy Spirit, just as my Father promised. But stay here in the city until the Holy Spirit comes and fills you with power from heaven.”
2. Only after this can they expand and go into all the world
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.


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Here is a scripture that may help you if you can process it.
Eph 2:11-13:
"Why remember, that you being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus you who sometimes were far off are made near by the blood of Christ."


Through the Blood of Christ, we Gentiles (non Isrealites) became partaker of the Gift of SALVATION by the BLOOD of Christ!

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