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Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by kenny714433(m): 8:52pm On May 31, 2023
smiley

Just made me remember "The Nun" and "The Pope's Exorcist"

We don't even have a renowned Monastery or Abbey in Nigeria. I'd like to be an Abbot.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 9:11pm On May 31, 2023
hammerT:
Catholics are not Christians.



Very important! Their religion tolerate idol worship just like paganism.
If I may ask, what is idolatry?!.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by saintbillion(op): 9:15pm On May 31, 2023
smokinloud:
If I may ask, what is idolatry?!.
Worshiping of idols
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by hammerT:
smokinloud:
If I may ask, what is idolatry?!.
what you are looking at now.


They are worshiping dead body.

Tufiakwa!
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 9:35pm On May 31, 2023
hammerT:
what you are looking out now.


They are worshiping dead body.

Tufiakwa!
No. No one is worshipping the dead body!.
They are just amazed at the miracle of her body not decaying for over 4 years!.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 9:36pm On May 31, 2023
saintbillion:
Worshiping of idols
Can you prove it from this instance?!.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by hammerT: 9:42pm On May 31, 2023
smokinloud:
No. No one is worshipping the dead body!.
They are just amazed at the miracle of her body not decaying for over 4 years!.
Not so, this is not what God sent them to do.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by Vinnie2000(m): 10:09pm On May 31, 2023
hammerT:
Not so, this is not what God sent them to do.
Are you God's neighbour in Heaven? 😏

U Guys should NOT criticize what you don't understand. sad

According to Catholic Tradition, If a Dead person's body refuse to get corrupted (rotten), like Lazarus in the Bible
It means the person lived a Righteous Life on Earth.🙂
And After Verification, the person is declared Blessed (Beautified) and later Canonized (made a Saint).😊
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by saintbillion(op): 5:53am On Jun 01, 2023
Vinnie2000:
Are you God's neighbour in Heaven? 😏

U Guys should NOT criticize what you don't understand. sad

According to Catholic Tradition, If a Dead person's body refuse to get corrupted (rotten), like Lazarus in the Bible
It means the person lived a Righteous Life on Earth.🙂
And After Verification, the person is declared Blessed (Beautified) and later Canonized (made a Saint).😊
and worshiping begins on the death body. U start praying to it
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by hammerT: 6:02am On Jun 01, 2023
Vinnie2000:
Are you God's neighbour in Heaven? 😏

U Guys should NOT criticize what you don't understand. sad

According to Catholic Tradition, If a Dead person's body refuse to get corrupted (rotten), like Lazarus in the Bible
It means the person lived a Righteous Life on Earth.🙂
And After Verification, the person is declared Blessed (Beautified) and later Canonized (made a Saint).😊
smokinloud:
No. No one is worshipping the dead body!.
They are just amazed at the miracle of her body not decaying for over 4 years!.
JUST LISTEN TO YOURSELVES A MINUTE.


LEAVE THE DEAD TO REST IN PEACE AND STOP DIGGING THEM UP TO VERIFY WHETHER THEY ARE INNOCENT OR HOLY.


DISGUSTING!


NOW, U HAVE KIDS TOUCHING ROTTEN CORPSES OR MUMMY.


Luke 9:60
And Jesus said to him, “Leave the dead to bury their own dead. But as for you, go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”



Matthew 8:22
And Jesus said to him, “Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by hammerT: 6:08am On Jun 01, 2023
Psalm 115:17 The dead do not praise the Lord, nor do any who go down into silence.


Ecclesiastes 12:7
And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.



Ecclesiastes 9 ::For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten. Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by hammerT: 6:18am On Jun 01, 2023
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Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by hammerT: 6:22am On Jun 01, 2023
CATHOLICS ARE PAGANS IDOLATRY.


PERIOD!



NO WHERE BIBLE ASK YOU TO WORSHIP MARY OR THAT MARY JOB IS TAKING PRAYERS TO GOD.


WHY ELSE DID JESUS DIE?


EVEN UNA MARY NA ANOTHER ANCIENT PAGAN gODDESS, THEY WORSHIP IN DISGUISE.


STATUES EVERYWHERE, LIKE BABALAWO SHRINE.

THEY WILL WORSHIP WATER MAPS, CLOUDS, REFLECTIONS AND SHADOW, SAYING MARY APPEARED.


1 John 2:23 ►

No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by saintbillion(op): 6:28am On Jun 01, 2023
hammerT:
JUST LISTEN TO YOURSELVES A MINUTE.


LEAVE THE DEAD TO REST IN PEACE AND STOP DIGGING THEM UP TO VERIFY WHETHER THEY ARE INNOCENT OR HOLY.


DISGUSTING!


NOW, U HAVE KIDS TOUCHING ROTTEN CORPSES OR MUMMY.


Luke 9:60
And Jesus said to him, “Leave the dead to bury their own dead. But as for you, go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”



Matthew 8:22
And Jesus said to him, “Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.
the guy is talking about lazarus. How does the story of lazarus death relate to adoring of mummies?
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by saintbillion(op): 6:30am On Jun 01, 2023
Vinnie2000:
Are you God's neighbour in Heaven? 😏

U Guys should NOT criticize what you don't understand. sad

According to Catholic Tradition, If a Dead person's body refuse to get corrupted (rotten), like Lazarus in the Bible
It means the person lived a Righteous Life on Earth.🙂
And After Verification, the person is declared Blessed (Beautified) and later Canonized (made a Saint).😊
Abeg relate lazarus story with this. I don't see any correlation in the two Instances, stop twisting bible
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 6:55am On Jun 01, 2023
hammerT:
what you are looking at now.


They are worshiping dead body.

Tufiakwa!
Well, they believe in purgatory. They believe that some people don't go to Hell or Heaven when they die. They pass through some form of punishment and then admitted to Heaven and they pray to God for the dead to make Heaven.
They also believe some saint can intercede for them and even their righteousness can be imputed to them... I don't believe those doctrines but I don't think that's idolatry.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by Skillsnigeria: 9:04am On Jun 01, 2023
Hmmm
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by saintbillion(op): 9:12am On Jun 01, 2023
smokinloud:
Can you prove it from this instance?!.
It's clear na. Prove what is already clear to u? Is that mummy there ur creator or ur mediator?
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 11:38am On Jun 01, 2023
saintbillion:
It's clear na. Prove what is already clear to u? Is that mummy there ur creator or ur mediator?
Touching a lifeless body in awe translates to worshipping the dead?!
Can you bring any historical evidence about any church father worshipping the dead?!.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by Broveens42(m): 12:10pm On Jun 01, 2023
smokinloud:
Touching a lifeless body in awe translates to worshipping the dead?!
Can you bring any historical evidence about any church father worshipping the dead?!.
Lol. That's what Anglo does to you. It makes you do things you deny. I bet you, when you go back to your Native languages or even the common latin, you would see how funny the words with same meaning are being separated.

When you touch a dead body in awe, you are simply in a state of REVERENCE which is not different from worship in indigenous languages.

You can worship anything on planet Earth through your constant communication with matter and value placed on matter
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by zelnababa(m): 12:26pm On Jun 01, 2023
dem use chemical to preserved the bodi jare
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by Ezeama400: 4:11pm On Jun 01, 2023
saintbillion:
Thousands of worshipers have started flocking to a Catholic nun to witness her body after it was recovered from her Missouri grave without any signs of decay despite being buried since 2019.

Faithful Catholics have been pictured and filmed in a long queue rushing to Gower - about 40 miles north of Kansas City - to see the unblemished body of sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, who died in May 2019 at the age of 95, with some calling it a miraculous sign of sainthood.

The abbey which previously would receive no more than 20 visitors per day is now seeing about 1,000 visitors on a daily basis, according to Ashlie Hand, a spokesperson with the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph.

'As of Tuesday, they were seeing about 1,000 visitors a day. I think now, it's probably well above that. The expectation is the crowd will grow over the holiday weekend,' Hand said to Fox4.
Hand said it's possible the monastery would receive up to 20,000 visitors over the weekend.


Crowds have grown to the point that police have added a mobile command center, and more land has been cleared to park cars. The street outside the monastery, 316th Street, also became a one-way thoroughfare on Saturday, carrying cars west to east, according to Fox 4.
Lancaster's body has been laid out for public viewing with visitors allowed to touch her body and pray. Visiting hours run from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.

After May 29, visitors will still be able to see the nun and visit the site, but they will no longer be able to touch her body as it will be encased in glass.

Lancaster's body glass encasement will be placed near the altar to ‘welcome her growing number of devotees.’
Photos taken at the scene and shared online, show visitors gently touching Lancaster's hands, which along with her face, are covered in wax. The nun's face and hands were then covered with a wax mask after she was found intact.

A sign next to the body, which is surrounded by flowers, reads: 'Please be gentle when touching sister's body, especially her feet.'
The church officials said they are investigating Lancaster's case, as incorruptibility can be a sign of sainthood, although it is not definite.



Bishop James Johnston of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph released a statement on May 22 noting the need 'to protect the integrity of the mortal remains of Sister Wilhelmina to allow for a thorough investigation,' according to Newsweek.

The church hasn't declared the case to be miraculous, but the bishop 'is working to establish a thorough process for understanding the nature of the condition of Sister Wilhelmina's remains,' the statement said.

'Incorruptibility has been verified in the past, but it is very rare. There is a well-established process to pursue the cause for sainthood, but that has not been initiated in this case yet.'
Lancaster's body was buried outside of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles Monastery, and was dug up to be placed in a better tomb inside the chapel.

At the time of Lancaster's death, the nun's body was not embalmed before her burial and her casket was made of simple wood without an exterior layer. Workers expected to uncover boned but instead found a perfectly intact corpse.

After seeing Lancaster's intact body, the convent's Abbess, Mother Cecilia, described the actions the nuns had taken, according to Newsweek.
You can't Google, 'What do you do with an incorrupt body?'' she said, 'so we started with the basics, just cleaning her with hot water, because clinging to her face was basically a mask of thick mold.'


'Bishop Johnston invites all the Faithful to continue praying during this time of investigation for God's will in the lives of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles; for all women religious; and all the baptized in our common vocation to holiness, with hope and trust in the Lord.'
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Sourcehttps://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2023/5/thousands-of-catholics-flock-to-missouri-church-to-pray-over-body-of-miracle-nun-who-was-exhumed-after-four-years-with-no-signs-of-decay-photos.html
Nlfpmod Nlfpmod let's celebrate this Sister
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 5:28pm On Jun 01, 2023
Broveens42:
Lol. That's what Anglo does to you. It makes you do things you deny. I bet you, when you go back to your Native languages or even the common latin, you would see how funny the words with same meaning are being separated.

When you touch a dead body in awe, you are simply in a state of REVERENCE which is not different from worship in indigenous languages.

You can worship anything on planet Earth through your constant communication with matter and value placed on matter
You speak like you are addressing a 10-year-old. If touching and reverencing a thing is equal to worship then people who are addicted to their phones worship them. Let's try not to be metaphorical, Touching a dead body and having a particular belief concerning the dead does not translate to worshipping them, forget Anglo or whatever. There's no historical documents that suggests that church fathers worship the dead!.
They believe some humans are perfect and they can intercept for them before God, which I don't believe, but to accuse Catholism of idolatry is to accuse Christianity of idolatry.
Without Catholism there is no Christianity!.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by saintbillion(op): 6:02pm On Jun 01, 2023
smokinloud:
You speak like you are addressing a 10-year-old. If touching and reverencing a thing is equal to worship then people who are addicted to their phones worship them. Let's try not to be metaphorical, Touching a dead body and having a particular belief concerning the dead does not translate to worshipping them, forget Anglo or whatever. There's no historical documents that suggests that church fathers worship the dead!.
They believe some humans are perfect and they can intercept for them before God, which I don't believe, but to accuse Catholism of idolatry is to accuse Christianity of idolatry.
Without Catholism there is no Christianity!.
Blatant error. WTF man. May God forgive u, for that blasphemy u just made. Without Catholism there will be no Christianity? So catholism is now Jesus Christ. Lol from this statement of urs guy u can't convince me again. Catholics are idolatry worshipers.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 6:28pm On Jun 01, 2023
saintbillion:
Blatant error. WTF man. May God forgive u, for that blasphemy u just made. Without Catholism there will be no Christianity? So catholism is now Jesus Christ. Lol from this statement of urs guy u can't convince me again. Catholics are idolatry worshipers.
I was meant to say without Catholism there's no Protestantism!. My bad
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by Broveens42(m):
smokinloud:
You speak like you are addressing a 10-year-old. If touching and reverencing a thing is equal to worship then people who are addicted to their phones worship them. Let's try not to be metaphorical, Touching a dead body and having a particular belief concerning the dead does not translate to worshipping them, forget Anglo or whatever. There's no historical documents that suggests that church fathers worship the dead!.
They believe some humans are perfect and they can intercept for them before God, which I don't believe, but to accuse Catholism of idolatry is to accuse Christianity of idolatry.
Without Catholism there is no Christianity!.
Lol, now I understand your challenge, you are not only affected by Anglo, you also affected by 'doctrine of doctrines'

Define the term 'worship' using a passage from your own good book; let's start from here...
Seems you are so stubborn to accept the obvious you just stated; yes you can worship your phone because you placed high value on something you're in constant communication with.
Words in Anglo are like a corrupted word... that's why people tend to view words like obedience, reverence, worship, affection as different..

Take for instance in Igbo ;
"sopuru nne na nna gi ..." a non literal translation to English is "obey your mother and father..."

when you look at it contextually in the indigenous language, you are being urged to worship your parents as your providers (gods)
I don't know your mother tongue, but I wish someone can understand my illustration
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by Broveens42(m): 5:18pm On Jun 02, 2023
To illustrate my point futher
Luke 4

5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

8 And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

Worship here, means submission/obedience; the statement "and him only you shall SERVE" suggest so.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by smokinloud(m): 11:58pm On Jun 02, 2023
Broveens42:
Lol, now I understand your challenge, you are not only affected by Anglo, you also affected by 'doctrine of doctrines'

Define the term 'worship' using a passage from your own good book; let's start from here...
Seems you are so stubborn to accept the obvious you just stated; yes you can worship your phone because you placed high value on something you're in constant communication with.
Words in Anglo are like a corrupted word... that's why people tend to view words like obedience, reverence, worship, affection as different..

Take for instance in Igbo ;
"sopuru nne na nna gi ..." a non literal translation to English is "obey your mother and father..."

when you look at it contextually in the indigenous language, you are being urged to worship your parents as your providers (gods)
I don't know your mother tongue, but I wish someone can understand my illustration
I understand your misunderstanding.

Exodus 13:19
[19]And Moses took the bones of Joseph with him: for he had straitly sworn the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you; and ye shall carry up my bones away hence with you.
I don't know if you believe the bible or not but Moses intending to take a corpse along with him out of Egypt to the promise land is never considered idolatry by God. You know why? He never gave the worship due to God to the corpse. He only esteem the corpse as an ancestor. It's not different from from touching the dead in awe and praying as they're doing in the picture.
Yes, people can worship objects unknowingly by giving it the reverence and time that only God deserves but coming to conclusion that some people are idolaters for performing some rites that you don't believe in does not speak good.
Reverencing (worshipping ) your parents as special people does not translate to idolatry. You're only playing semantics!.
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by tiwasiaife(m): 12:12am On Jun 03, 2023
Creamypie:
Make Una dey willfully accept marketing scam for broad daylight. This waxed body. Why did they dig her up if it wasn't planned right from the beginning.
Not all have criminal mind like you.
Even if they wanted to do it don't u think they should have used a white Nun.
Now it's a black you are still weeping in ignorance
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by tiwasiaife(m): 12:13am On Jun 03, 2023
Goldmind1:
Religious madness. Those that worship God must worship Him in Spirit and truth John 4;24. You need not go to anywhere for God to hear you. Reach God even from your house. O foolish Galatians who has bewitched you?
Not all have criminal mind like you.
Even if they wanted to do it don't u think they should have used a white Nun.
Now it's a black you are still weeping in ignorance
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by tiwasiaife(m): 12:14am On Jun 03, 2023
NoahHadNoArk:
I’m catholic and proud

But I will still come out to say this practice is beyond weird and Bizarre.

Why dig up that body in the first place ?!
What story or passage in the scripture are you trying to Justify?

If it’s not kneeling down to sculptures and Images of Gold, it’s digging up body to check their levels of

decomposition like say you be skull miner. Isokay


You are not in anyway a Christian let alone catholic so move on

My peace I leave you
Re: Catholics Members Flock To Missouri Church To Pray Over Body Of 'miracle' Nun. by kahal29: 5:00am On Jun 03, 2023
NoahHadNoArk:
I’m catholic and proud

But I will still come out to say this practice is beyond weird and Bizarre.

Why dig up that body in the first place ?!
What story or passage in the scripture are you trying to Justify?

If it’s not kneeling down to sculptures and Images of Gold, it’s digging up body to check their levels of decomposition like say you be skull miner. Isokay

My peace I leave you
Sorry, you are not a Catholic
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