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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:22pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Dabronze(m): 12:29pm On Jun 03, 2023
WrriterNig:
โšก๏ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ "US will continue notifying ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia of ICBM launches and nuclear exercises," - White House.
US don't have to notify Russia what they should have to do is to lunch ICBM to Russia cheesy cheesy and tell tell the Russia military to leave Ukraine with immediate effect and Vladimir Putin will understand much better grin grin grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkir: 12:32pm On Jun 03, 2023
coke75:


You didn't give me an example, you made up a fantasy in your head.
Nobody here knows how many troops were deployed in bakmut, you don't and I don't. What we know is is that Wagner took heavy losses taking very little territory in Bahkmut...
Prigozhin said he lost 20000 troops, only counting wagner soldiers, not including other russian troops. Add the wounded and they probably lost more than 60000 troops, just to take a tiny city.
We don't know how many ukrainians were deployed or KIA, but definitely not as many. There's no reason for the ukrainians to defend the city, if they were lossing as many troops. Ukraine wouldn't have an army left anymore, if they were taking as many losses as the russians.

Early on, the reported K/D ratio in Bakhmut was 7 to 1. 7 dead russians for every ukrainian. This probably got a little less favourable for ukr in later stages. Nobody can confirm those numbers but they seem realistic. The only value the city had for the ukrainians was that a ton of russians died trying to take it.

Why are u people such a big liar?
Prigozhin said he brought 50k soldiers to Bakhmut and lost 20% of them, which is 10k men. Please how did he lost 60k soldiers when his men is nt even up to 60k?
How can someone lose 60k men according to ur ratio: 7 dead Russian soldiers for every 1 Ukraine and still take over Bakhmut? Haba, do better now

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by leobergy(m): 12:37pm On Jun 03, 2023
Alamkir:


Why are u people such a big liar?
Prigozhin said he brought 50k soldiers to Bakhmut and lost 20% of them, which is 10k men. Please how did he lost 60k soldiers when his men is nt even up to 60k?
How can someone lose 60k men according to ur ratio: 7 dead Russian soldiers for every 1 Ukraine and still take over Bakhmut? Haba, do better now

Donโ€™t mind the slow poke

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:45pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšก๏ธ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Iranian Foreign Minister said that his country will become an official member of the ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ SCO in June-July this year. The necessary processes are already underway.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:46pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:50pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšก๏ธ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russian Defense Ministry: Russian aviation destroys the ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukrainian command center in Seversk.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:52pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:53pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšก๏ธWest wants to rewrite history and sow discord between ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia and ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡พ Belarus to prevent strengthening of Union State - Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 12:58pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 1:00pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 1:16pm On Jun 03, 2023
Alamkir:


Why are u people such a big liar?
Prigozhin said he brought 50k soldiers to Bakhmut and lost 20% of them, which is 10k men. Please how did he lost 60k soldiers when his men is nt even up to 60k?
How can someone lose 60k men according to ur ratio: 7 dead Russian soldiers for every 1 Ukraine and still take over Bakhmut? Haba, do better now
Wagner chief says 20000 of its troops killed in Bakhmut battle - Al Jazeera www.aljazeera.com โ€บ news โ€บ
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Dabronze(m): 1:27pm On Jun 03, 2023
WrriterNig:
โšก๏ธ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Iranian Foreign Minister said that his country will become an official member of the ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ SCO in June-July this year. The necessary processes are already underway.
What is the full meaning of SCO?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 1:54pm On Jun 03, 2023
Dabronze:
What is the full meaning of SCO?
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 2:02pm On Jun 03, 2023
Shoodboi:


There is no way Russia would have higher losses than Ukraine. It is impossible. Ukraine has higher losses in terms of personnel and equipment losses. It was a few months ago that the lady that leads the EU revealed that Ukraine had suffered over 100k casualties. That was the moment Western media switched from claiming "Russia is losing" to "Russia is fighting a war of attrition and both sides are losing".

As you correctly stated, the rule says the attacking force needs 3x more troops than the defender, if both armies are equal. But the figure could be reduced if one side is more powerful. Russia is the more powerful force here. Ukraine has lost the bulk of its navy, armor, and all of its air force. It currently relies on "defensive" weapons like anti-tanks rockets and manpads to counter Russia's offensive weapons like tanks and aircraft.

At this point, Ukraine easily has over a million troops in the war. It was like 600k before the war but they heavily mobilized. The numbers soon gave it an edge over Russia's 150k troops, which forced Russia to mobilize another 300k. Those 300k are not fighting. They're only used in defensive and rear roles to erode whatever advantage Ukraine got/will get from the massive mobilization.

That said, casualties are based on one thing only, which is firepower. The more powerful side has more firepower and can attack from longer ranges. This results in lesser casualties for the powerful side and more casualties for the weaker side.

But this strength factor can be affected by one other thing, which is "Who is attacking?" Let us assume the stronger side has 1 casualty for every 10 on the weaker side. When the stronger side is attacking, its casualties can easily go up to 2 for every 10 soldiers killed on the weaker die. If the weaker side is attacking, its casualty can easily go up to 15 soldiers for every one killed on the stronger side.

Now, you will be wondering, how is Russia still in the war despite being outnumbered by Ukraine?

It is because Russia prevents Ukraine from using its large army to its advantage. If you look at maps from this war, you will notice that Russia isolates battlefields. When it attacks an area/city, It blocks the flanks (sides) and then enters from the middle. Think of it as Russia drawing a letter U around a city. Ukraine can only send in reinforcements and resupply the battlefield using the open gap at the top of the U.

That is hard for Ukraine as Russia monitors the roads leading to that open gap and uses long range missiles, kamikaze drones, aircraft, and artillery to destroy any Ukrainian resupplies and reinforcements its spots.

The weird thing is that the strongest Russian units are the ones responsible for blocking the flanks. They are rarely deployed into the city to do the actual fighting.

We saw this happen in Bakhmut where Russia used its powerful armored units and the elite VDV to cover the flanks while Wagner entered the city. The same happened in Mariupol where Russian armored units, Marines, and VDV units covered the flanks while the Chechens entered the city. It also happened in Luhansk where Russian Marines, VDV, and armor covered the flanks while the Luhansk People's Republic and Chechens and Russian infantry soldiers did the fighting. Even the elite 1 Tank Army, which is responsible for protecting Moscow, was deployed to cover the flanks in Luhansk.

Mind you, the Wagnerians, Chechens, and Russian infantry fighting inside the city were outnumbered but they didn't have to bother about being attacked from the flanks, so they were able to focus on the battle. They had had heavy firepower too - way more than what Ukraine has. At the same time, the Ukrainians in the city had to put the Russians in the flanks into consideration cos they're even more powerful than the ones they were fighting with inside the city.

So how can Ukraine counter this?

Interestingly, the only way Ukraine could have won or at least prevented its destruction in Mariupol, Luhansk, and recently, Bakhmut, was not to focus on attacking the Chechens, Wagner, and Russian units inside the city but to focus on attacking the powerful forces protecting the flanks.

If those powerful units fall, the ones inside the city (Wagner, Chechen, and the Russian motorized infantries) will retreat. This was why the Wagner commander was shouting and fighting with the Russian general staff weeks ago. It wasn't because he wasn't been supplied as he claimed. It was because the Russian general staff planned to, and later withdrew the VDV from the flanks and sent in motorized infantry units as replacements. Motorized infantry is no match for mechanized infantry or armor.
I doff my hat.
You've just done what i don't have the time to do, hence my initial agreement with him, because I've been busy all day and don't have the time to lecture him.

This is a clear detail of what's happening and what happened in bakhmut.

The only problem is these western slaves who will rather remain myopic and emotionally dysregulated than accept reality.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 2:09pm On Jun 03, 2023
Alamkir:


Why are u people such a big liar?
Prigozhin said he brought 50k soldiers to Bakhmut and lost 20% of them, which is 10k men. Please how did he lost 60k soldiers when his men is nt even up to 60k?
How can someone lose 60k men according to ur ratio: 7 dead Russian soldiers for every 1 Ukraine and still take over Bakhmut? Haba, do better now
What I've understood so far in this war is that every Ukraine supporter on nairaland that I've engage thus far can be classified as dumb.

A simple maths is like rocket science to them.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 2:12pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 2:36pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšกZelensky threatened that Kyiv would not take part in the NATO summit in Vilnius if there were no promises to accept ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukraine into the alliance.

โ€œTell me how many lives is worth one phrase at the ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡น Vilnius summit: โ€œUkraine will be in NATO after the conflict? If they donโ€™t see us there and donโ€™t give us some kind of signal in Vilnius, I think Ukraine has nothing to do at this summit,โ€ Zelensky said in an interview with a WSJ journalist.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 2:37pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšกRoyal United Services Institute: "Russian engineering has proven to be one of the stronger branches of the ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russian military. Russian engineers have been constructing complex obstacles and field fortifications across the front. This includes concrete reinforced trenches and command bunkers, wire-entanglements, hedgehogs, anti-tank ditches, and complex minefields.

Russian mine laying is extensive and mixes anti-tank and victim-initiated anti-personnel mines, the latter frequently being laid with multiple initiation mechanisms to complicate breaching. These defences pose a major tactical challenge to ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukrainian offensive operations."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Badassniggga(m): 2:42pm On Jun 03, 2023
coke75:


1. You don't understand the 'theory'. Obviously it referes to a situation were both sides are roughly equal in strength and not if one side has tanks and the other sticks and stones. This is literally understood by every military on the planet. The general rule is that the attacking force needs to have 3x more soldiers and equipment.
2. As one would expect, russia has had significantly higher losses.

Visually confirmed losses of equipment from both sides:
Ukraine - 3464, of which: destroyed: 2258, damaged: 216, abandoned: 95, captured: 895
Russia - 10500, of which: destroyed: 6920, damaged: 353, abandoned: 404, captured: 2823
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/
lol visually confirmed by who? Where are the evidences of the confirmations? Who counted the equipment losses? With what did they use to count the equipments? grin grin grin. I hope you know no one takes that your link seriously? grin grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 4:26pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšกMoscow military analyst: โ€œOnce the Ukrainian army is defeated, the eight regions of Novorossiya will be inside ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia [Odessa, Nikolaev, Dniepropetrovsk, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov]. This is a war that has not seen a single ceasefire and there will be none.

This ends with the end-game. For the ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Americans a very substantial loss of face for Putin with a large number of casualties and some claw-back of territory taken by Moscow is victory. For the Russians, there are no half-measures. They have to seal it and they have to destroy or defeat the ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukrainian army on the battlefield. There will be no bargaining with anyone. Putin will not make the mistakes of Gorbachev to give back what has been won on battlefield. They [Russia] will come in and take the cities after the Ukrainian forces capitulate.โ€

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Badassniggga(m): 4:38pm On Jun 03, 2023
WrriterNig:
โšกMoscow military analyst: โ€œOnce the Ukrainian army is defeated, the eight regions of Novorossiya will be inside ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia [Odessa, Nikolaev, Dniepropetrovsk, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov]. This is a war that has not seen a single ceasefire and there will be none.

This ends with the end-game. For the ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Americans a very substantial loss of face for Putin with a large number of casualties and some claw-back of territory taken by Moscow is victory. For the Russians, there are no half-measures. They have to seal it and they have to destroy or defeat the ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukrainian army on the battlefield. There will be no bargaining with anyone. Putin will not make the mistakes of Gorbachev to give back what has been won on battlefield. They [Russia] will come in and take the cities after the Ukrainian forces capitulate.โ€
I don't understand how some people never learn from history. RUSSIA has never lost any war. if anything, their empire and territory keeps expanding. Hitler and Napoleon learnt a bitter lesson not to confront Russia but Murica and her conquered vassals in Europe thinks this slow grind proxy will weaken Russia. They never learn.

Even if this war takes 5 years, all I see is Russian victory. Don't poke the bear ๐Ÿป.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 4:45pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšก๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ BlackRock, Vanguard "use their clout to promote agenda politics" in companies, sparking nationwide boycotts from customers.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 4:51pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 4:55pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:12pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšกThe founder of ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ โ˜  Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin said that he had phoned the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov. According to him, they agreed to "release the conflict on the brakes."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:17pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:18pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšกAbandoned bunker used for sick human experiments in WWII found after 78 years.

Experiments included exposing subjects to grenades and chemical weapons, spinning them to death inside centrifuges, and even imprisoning people in low-pressure chambers until their eyeballs exploded, Live Science reported.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:23pm On Jun 03, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:30pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšก๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Dmitry Medvedev: "I can say with certainty: there will be no return to โ€˜brightโ€™ European past... only renegades who forgot about the death of our citizens can dream about the return to a friendly European family."

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:32pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšกThe SRG that attacked the ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Belgorod region had weapons and equipment from the ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ US, the Czech Republic and Belgium - Washington Post

"Three MRAP mine-resistant armoured vehicles were provided by the US, one by ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Poland. At least two of them were seized by Russian forces. Rifles from the Czech Republic and ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช Belgium and an anti-tank AT-4 used in the US and in the West were also used."- the publication notes.

The ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Washington Post also said that this raises questions about Kiev's control over the situation.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 5:35pm On Jun 03, 2023
โšก๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukrainian forces are continuing to shell civilian areas in Shebekino and other towns in Belgorod oblast. Several civilians have been killed. The rationale is likely to bait ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russian command into pulling troops from the hot areas of the front.

It's a tactic they use often; e.g. during the Russian push on Severodonetsk, the Ukrainians intensified their terror shellings in Donetsk to apocalyptic levels to bait ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia into pulling artillery units back to the city for counter-battery purposes.

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