Jokerman:


This won't work because you'd have to pay back the money they use to secure the land


What Lagos should do is that only indigenes should work in civil service. If you want to live in Lagos ,own a business and employ or work for private individuals

it will work with land use act, all sold land goes back to government and 100years of lease, some have just 10 to 20 yrs remaining

The last pix is hon apata representing somolu 2

Lanrelagboi:
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mcquin:
I am from Cross River, living in Edo State and never supported APC, my previous posts are enough proof, but you see the issue of SETTING IN MOTION LAWS THAT RECOGNIZES YORUBAS IN LAGOS AHEAD OF OTHERS, I SUPPORT IT."

Agreed, the Lagos government cannot proscribe the movement of non-indigenes to Lagos, it can put in place laws to favor first it's people as other states do. You can't keep cheating the yorubas because of their liberal disposition. What the hell is "No Man's Land." In Edo, indigenes pay far less than non-indigenes as students of it's University, Ekpoma. In Abia, a man from Imo can't work in their civil service unless he alters his place of origin. Nobody therefore has the moral justification to call out the Lagos Assembly as we all are guilty of same tribalism.

With regard oil within the Niger-Delta and the call for relocation of oil coy's HQ, we made the region uncomfortable for experts, kidnapping them and so on. It is left to the private owners to decide where they want their companies situate. Even in real estate development, we use "Youth Chairman and Deve.." money spoil things. Abegi!

You are entitled to your opinion my brother, but understand, that the constitution of Nigeria guarantees every Nigerian the right to live anywhere of their choice peacefully vote and be voted for.
You should know that it's not only the IGBOS that lives in Lagos State, who are the majorly target of this so called proposed law. When it's passed into law and signed. Don't forget, Yorubas are in other places aside their own.
My major concern here's that most members, who wants to promogate this law are not Lagosians.
Obasa himself is from Ogun State, Hamzat Obafemi iis a prince in Ogun State. Most of the head of ministries and departments in Lagos State are non- Indigenes.
Let the law come, then other states Wil also emulate them, let's see where it will take all of us.

No flattheaded criminal in the house this time around. They should go and develop their backward region. 🤣🤣

Axis313:
Forward ever.
Only one "developer?"
Nice one from the electorates.

Not a single developer going by that list.
There were a few in the last state house of assembly what happened to them ?

honeyB2018:



You are entitled to your opinion my brother, but understand, that the constitution of Nigeria guarantees every Nigerian the right to live anywhere of their choice peacefully vote and be voted for.
You should know that it's not only the IGBOS that lives in Lagos State, who are the majorly target of this so called proposed law. When it's passed into law and signed. Don't forget, Yorubas are in other places aside their own.
My major concern here's that most members, who wants to promogate this law are not Lagosians.
Obasa himself is from Ogun State, Hamzat Obafemi iis a prince in Ogun State. Most of the head of ministries and departments in Lagos State are non- Indigenes.
Let the law come, then other states Wil also emulate them, let's see where it will take all of us.

My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.

mcquin:


My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.

mcquin:


My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.

[quoted author=mcquin post=123666041]

My brother, the point is we must stop the hypocrisy. Don't dish out what you can't take. How many states are as liberal has Lagos? Why must other states promulgate laws that favor first their indigenes and Lagos is prevented from doing same? Can an Imo State indigene work in Abia state civil service?

Is it not Lagos' liberal stance that has earned it the slur "no man's land?" Can an Hausa man go to Aba and say it is a no man's land?

Let's stop the hypocrisy abeg. Other states have been doing theirs no be today. I already mentioned Edo indigenes pay lesser amount in Ekpoma than non-indigenes.[/quote]


I don't want to be hard on you. People like you sometimes, mislead others thinking they are making a reasonable point. You cannot compare Lagos State, with any other state in Nigeria. This is because it's a state being run by non- Indigenes. The population of Lagos State, is made up of 90% non- Indigenes and 10% indigenes.
We're not talking about Yoruba land here. The civil service of Lagos State, is dorminated by non- Indigenes. If you don't have ancestral home in Lagos State, you are a non- Indigene.The economy of Lagos State, is been developed and run by non- Indigenes, so their politics.
Let me enlighten you bit.
Awolowo from Ogun State played his polictics here.
MKO from Ogun State played his polictics here.
Aregbeshola, Yayi, James Faleke, Obafemi Hamzat, ditto people from other tribes.
The IGBOS have been in Lagos politics and economy and development before independence.
Lagos State, is mini Nigeria, it was our former federal capital, developed with our common resources. The ports (land and sea) were all built and developed with our common resources. Critical infrastructures in Lagos State, after the war were done with our common resources. So how can you compare Lagos State with others? When I mean non- Indigenes, I'm not talking about the IGBOS alone,I mean all Nigerians.
The development of Lagos State, was and still not the development and contributions of the people of South West alone. The problem is that the other states in the South West, don't want to acknowledge the contributions of others especially the IGBOS in the development of the State. Or else what right has anyone who's not a Lagosian, by ancestral heritage in Lagos State from any part of South West, that another Nigeria from other parts of Nigeria don't have?
You don't reap where you never sowed. It's not about Yoruba, but it's about Lagos State. If any Nigeria of South West extraction should invest in the Igboland,the way the IGBOS have invested in their land, why not, they can as well be part and parcel of the good, development and politics of Igboland, no one will stop them
There are Americans and Britons of Yoruba extraction, who have contested and won elections in those countries. I don't think, those people sat down in Ogbomosho, Ilawe, Ikare , Badagry are won the elections because they were Yorubas. They participated in the politics, economy social life and development of those places.
How many companies own by a Yoruba do you find in the South East?. Rano Oil, Indimi Oil, BUA cement companies from the North are in operation in the South East, tell me one company a Yoruba owns that you find there and you are asking wether a Yoruba can be found in the civil service of any state in the South East.
How many people of South East extraction can you find in the civil service of Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo States? If Lagos State' s development, wasn't our (Nigerians) collective contributions, why didn't the likes of Awolowo, M K O etc stay in their state and develop it, rather the came to Lagos State
Just of recent, former Vie- President, Prof. Yemi Osinbajo, who came from Ogun State to Lagos State,to study, play his politics, relocated his pulling both, from Lagos State to his own State and town in Ogun State. Why didn't he stay in his state for whatever he wanted politically?
The Igboman, is like the target of all Yoruba tribal attacks and all Nigerians are keeping quiet, they forgot that an injury to one is an injury to all. In 2003, under Tinubu as the governor of Lagos State, the Yorubas attacked the Hausas and Fulanis, what were the offences of those innocent Hausa/Fulanis that were massacred then? Did they campaign or entangled themselves with the politics of their host nation then? Did they say Lagos was a no man's Land, was there any boundary dispute? Did the but lands and never pay for it? These are questions we need to ask and find out.
African China made a song with it, Nigerians laughed over it. This happened in this same Lagos State, in 2023, 20yrs after, the turn of the IGBOS came, tomorrow, it will still be this same Yorubas against another tribe and we all will stigmatize the affected group, till it will get to every tribe, then we know, wether Lagos State, is for the Yorubas as alone after developing it with our collective resources. On the payment of school fees, go to LASU and find out. There are fees non- Indigenes pay that indigenes don't pay. I stand to be corrected.
I rest my case with you.

honeyB2018:



I don't want to be hard on you. People like you sometimes, mislead others thinking they are making a reasonable point. You cannot compare Lagos State, with any other state in Nigeria. This is because it's a state being run by non- Indigenes. The population of Lagos State, is made up of 90% non- Indigenes and 10% indigenes.
We're not talking about Yoruba land here. The civil service of Lagos State, is dorminated by non- Indigenes. If you don't have ancestral home in Lagos State, you are a non- Indigene.The economy of Lagos State, is been developed and run by non- Indigenes, so their politics.
Let me enlighten you bit.
Awolowo from Ogun State played his polictics here.
MKO from Ogun State played his polictics here.
Aregbeshola, Yayi, James Faleke, Obafemi Hamzat, ditto people from other tribes.
The IGBOS have been in Lagos politics and economy and development before independence.
Lagos State, is mini Nigeria, it was our former federal capital, developed with our common resources. The ports (land and sea) were all built and developed with our common resources. Critical infrastructures in Lagos State, after the war were done with our common resources. So how can you compare Lagos State with others? When I mean non- Indigenes, I'm not talking about the IGBOS alone,I mean all Nigerians.
The development of Lagos State, was and still not the development and contributions of the people of South West alone. The problem is that the other states in the South West, don't want to acknowledge the contributions of others especially the IGBOS in the development of the State. Or else what right has anyone who's not a Lagosian, by ancestral heritage in Lagos State from any part of South West, that another Nigeria from other parts of Nigeria don't have?
You don't reap where you never sowed. It's not about Yoruba, but it's about Lagos State. If any Nigeria of South West extraction should invest in the Igboland,the way the IGBOS have invested in their land, why not, they can as well be part and parcel of the good, development and politics of Igboland, no one will stop them
There are Americans and Britons of Yoruba extraction, who have contested and won elections in those countries. I don't think, those people sat down in Ogbomosho, Ilawe, Ikare , Badagry are won the elections because they were Yorubas. They participated in the politics, economy social life and development of those places.
How many companies own by a Yoruba do you find in the South East?. Rano Oil, Indimi Oil, BUA cement companies from the North are in operation in the South East, tell me one company a Yoruba owns that you find there and you are asking wether a Yoruba can be found in the civil service of any state in the South East.
How many people of South East extraction can you find in the civil service of Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo States? If Lagos State' s development, wasn't our (Nigerians) collective contributions, why didn't the likes of Awolowo, M K O etc stay in their state and develop it, rather the came to Lagos State
Just of recent, former Vie- President, Prof. Yemi Osinbajo, who came from Ogun State to Lagos State,to study, play his politics, relocated his pulling both, from Lagos State to his own State and town in Ogun State. Why didn't he stay in his state for whatever he wanted politically?
The Igboman, is like the target of all Yoruba tribal attacks and all Nigerians are keeping quiet, they forgot that an injury to one is an injury to all. In 2003, under Tinubu as the governor of Lagos State, the Yorubas attacked the Hausas and Fulanis, what were the offences of those innocent Hausa/Fulanis that were massacred then? Did they campaign or entangled themselves with the politics of their host nation then? Did they say Lagos was a no man's Land, was there any boundary dispute? Did the but lands and never pay for it? These are questions we need to ask and find out.
African China made a song with it, Nigerians laughed over it. This happened in this same Lagos State, in 2023, 20yrs after, the turn of the IGBOS came, tomorrow, it will still be this same Yorubas against another tribe and we all will stigmatize the affected group, till it will get to every tribe, then we know, wether Lagos State, is for the Yorubas as alone after developing it with our collective resources. On the payment of school fees, go to LASU and find out. There are fees non- Indigenes pay that indigenes don't pay. I stand to be corrected.
I rest my case with you.

The long post is not necessary. Until you move Lagos out of the South West to anywhere else, it remains the collective heritage of the yorubas.

You've referenced Nigerians going abroad and getting into politics, do these Nigerians go to the UK and desecrate their monarch? How many Nigerians have gone to the UK to call it a no man's land," disrespecting the aboriginals?

If you feel you have contributed to Lagos, they have now asked you to take your contributions elsewhere. Go develop your land.
By the way Nigerians are in Abia, Anambra, South-South especially where you have a mix of many different tribes, nobody disrespects the indigenes. Who born you to talk down the Oba of Benin?

Lastly, whether an Osun man is made a governor in Lagos or an Ekiti man, so long the yorubas allow it, who am I to complain?

mcquin:

The long post is not necessary. Until you move Lagos out of the South West to anywhere else, it remains the collective heritage of the yorubas.

You've referenced Nigerians going abroad and getting into politics, do these Nigerians go to the UK and desecrate their monarch? How many Nigerians have gone to the UK to call it a no man's land," disrespecting the aboriginals?

If you feel you have contributed to Lagos, they have now asked you to take your contributions elsewhere. Go develop your land.
By the way Nigerians are in Abia, Anambra, South-South especially where you have a mix of many different tribes, nobody disrespects the indigenes. Who born you to talk down the Oba of Benin?

Lastly, whether an Osun man is made a governor in Lagos or an Ekiti man, so long the yorubas allow it, who am I to complain?

Wether the post was long or not, I did it to highlight some critical point you missed.
Nobody in Lagos State, can ask anybody to go to anywhere, as long as there's an entity called Nigeria.
Lagos State, is a collective development, not the development of the Yoruba land. I have told you before, the critical infrastructures that were done in Lagos State, with all the money from all parts of Nigeria, you want other Nigerians to leave it and go to where? It's never and can never be done
The Nigeria constitution gave all, not only the Yorubas the right to contest election anywhere, vote and be voted for. It's just that parochialism and sentiments, will not allow the indigenes to see beyond their nose, otherwise what right has any one from Ekiti to be governor in Lagos State, that any Nigeria from another region don't have?
You lack the power to send anyone out of his chosen place of residence
Which Igboman, said Lagos is no man's land, yet the buy land and are given receipts?
It's just giving a dog a bad name.
This shenanigan you Yorubas are doing, will surely backfire on you shortly.
Mark my words. You think you are smart enough? An end is coming and it will be quite disappointing.

Lanrelagboi:


https://www.lagoshouseofassembly.gov.ng/meet-our-members/

Great.
Can someone help us with the state where these honorable members come from. I know, that not all of them are from LAGOS.

honeyB2018:


Wether the post was long or not, I did it to highlight some critical point you missed.
Nobody in Lagos State, can ask anybody to go to anywhere, as long as there's an entity called Nigeria.
Lagos State, is a collective development, not the development of the Yoruba land. I have told you before, the critical infrastructures that were done in Lagos State, with all the money from all parts of Nigeria, you want other Nigerians to leave it and go to where? It's never and can never be done
The Nigeria constitution gave all, not only the Yorubas the right to contest election anywhere, vote and be voted for. It's just that parochialism and sentiments, will not allow the indigenes to see beyond their nose, otherwise what right has any one from Ekiti to be governor in Lagos State, that any Nigeria from another region don't have?
You lack the power to send anyone out of his chosen place of residence
Which Igboman, said Lagos is no man's land, yet the buy land and are given receipts?
It's just giving a dog a bad name.
This shenanigan you Yorubas are doing, will surely backfire on you shortly.
Mark my words. You think you are smart enough? An end is coming and it will be quite disappointing.

I will start your last paragraph. I don't know why you feel if one holds an opinion on an issue, he is from so and so area. Go to Calabar and ask of the Ansa family, then you'll better know my root instead of assuming I am Yoruba.

That said, I wonder what infrastructure you keep insisting Nigeria built for Lagos. Lagos stopped being Nigeria's capital over 3 decades ago. Do you know what that means. Poor governance with Nigeria's poor maintenance culture would have killed what infrastructure you felt Nigeria built. You have to first admit good leadership for the so called infrastructure to still be in Lagos and improved on. Now, was it Nigeria that gave Lagos the BRT it no enjoys, what of the blue and red rail, what about the improved IGR? Can you compare IGR of Lagos in the 60s to it's IGR today? What of in the area of security, is it the infrastructure of the 60s that created the RRS and security Lagos enjoys? If Lagos were Anambra where citizens sit at home Mondays due to insecurity or Borno, will investments still be in Lagos? By the way go check the record how much investment came into Lagos since Sanwolu's administration alone and tell me if it's infrastructure of 60 and 70 that pulled in the investments.

Worst part is Calabar, Lokoja were once capitals, but you people never mention those states.

Lastly there are states with federal infrastructure especially in the north, Kaduna and Kano are clear examples. How many times do Nigerians go describe those places "no man's land."

Note: I can't remember anywhere in my text I mentioned Igbos calling Lagos a no man's land as I am tribalistic. You are the one that mentioned Igbos calling Lagos a no man's land.

honeyB2018:



I don't want to be hard on you. People like you sometimes, mislead others thinking they are making a reasonable point. You cannot compare Lagos State, with any other state in Nigeria. This is because it's a state being run by non- Indigenes. The population of Lagos State, is made up of 90% non- Indigenes and 10% indigenes.
We're not talking about Yoruba land here. The civil service of Lagos State, is dorminated by non- Indigenes. If you don't have ancestral home in Lagos State, you are a non- Indigene.The economy of Lagos State, is been developed and run by non- Indigenes, so their politics.
Let me enlighten you bit.
Awolowo from Ogun State played his polictics here.
MKO from Ogun State played his polictics here.
Aregbeshola, Yayi, James Faleke, Obafemi Hamzat, ditto people from other tribes.
The IGBOS have been in Lagos politics and economy and development before independence.
Lagos State, is mini Nigeria, it was our former federal capital, developed with our common resources. The ports (land and sea) were all built and developed with our common resources. Critical infrastructures in Lagos State, after the war were done with our common resources. So how can you compare Lagos State with others? When I mean non- Indigenes, I'm not talking about the IGBOS alone,I mean all Nigerians.
The development of Lagos State, was and still not the development and contributions of the people of South West alone. The problem is that the other states in the South West, don't want to acknowledge the contributions of others especially the IGBOS in the development of the State. Or else what right has anyone who's not a Lagosian, by ancestral heritage in Lagos State from any part of South West, that another Nigeria from other parts of Nigeria don't have?
You don't reap where you never sowed. It's not about Yoruba, but it's about Lagos State. If any Nigeria of South West extraction should invest in the Igboland,the way the IGBOS have invested in their land, why not, they can as well be part and parcel of the good, development and politics of Igboland, no one will stop them
There are Americans and Britons of Yoruba extraction, who have contested and won elections in those countries. I don't think, those people sat down in Ogbomosho, Ilawe, Ikare , Badagry are won the elections because they were Yorubas. They participated in the politics, economy social life and development of those places.
How many companies own by a Yoruba do you find in the South East?. Rano Oil, Indimi Oil, BUA cement companies from the North are in operation in the South East, tell me one company a Yoruba owns that you find there and you are asking wether a Yoruba can be found in the civil service of any state in the South East.
How many people of South East extraction can you find in the civil service of Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti or Ondo States? If Lagos State' s development, wasn't our (Nigerians) collective contributions, why didn't the likes of Awolowo, M K O etc stay in their state and develop it, rather the came to Lagos State
Just of recent, former Vie- President, Prof. Yemi Osinbajo, who came from Ogun State to Lagos State,to study, play his politics, relocated his pulling both, from Lagos State to his own State and town in Ogun State. Why didn't he stay in his state for whatever he wanted politically?
The Igboman, is like the target of all Yoruba tribal attacks and all Nigerians are keeping quiet, they forgot that an injury to one is an injury to all. In 2003, under Tinubu as the governor of Lagos State, the Yorubas attacked the Hausas and Fulanis, what were the offences of those innocent Hausa/Fulanis that were massacred then? Did they campaign or entangled themselves with the politics of their host nation then? Did they say Lagos was a no man's Land, was there any boundary dispute? Did the but lands and never pay for it? These are questions we need to ask and find out.
African China made a song with it, Nigerians laughed over it. This happened in this same Lagos State, in 2023, 20yrs after, the turn of the IGBOS came, tomorrow, it will still be this same Yorubas against another tribe and we all will stigmatize the affected group, till it will get to every tribe, then we know, wether Lagos State, is for the Yorubas as alone after developing it with our collective resources. On the payment of school fees, go to LASU and find out. There are fees non- Indigenes pay that indigenes don't pay. I stand to be corrected.
I rest my case with you.

People have been fighting wars over land for tens of thousands of years. Even Abuja as it is is Gwari land unless you are prepared to shed blood over it. Then if you buy land that I hold traditional title over, the land is still held in trust by me for my lineage and community. No land no title. That is the problem. Then Yoruba whether sovereign or not are one country. The Oba of Lagos is an Awori man whose ancestor was IJESA. There is an Ijeshatedo in Lagos, Abule Egba in Lagos. Madam Tinubu of Lagos was Egba. Herbert Macaulay was Ogbomosho, there was an Ijesa in the first Lagos assembly established by the British which contained two or three Africans. That is the reason why Yoruba's are one. They have been one for thousands of years. I have evidence of ancestors from all over Yoruba land and they were titled people. To enter Lagos politics for me as an IJESA will not be difficult because of all that and it is the same for other Yorubas. An IJESA man may have oriki saying he is from Ijebu or Egba or Oyo. You are right however that Lagos indigenes meaning Awori are not many but Yorubas in general are many and they are in control of the state but the leadership should remain with the landowners followed by other Yorubas who were there centuries before Nigeria. Land is a delicate matter and when outside your comfort zone you have to tread softly.

Then Yoruba have invested in Igbo land more than Igbos in the west or how do you mean no Yoruba investment in the East?. There are more Yoruba's scattered in Nigeria than Igbo's and more Yoruba origin companies by far are employers of labor in the East than we have Igbo companies in the west. It maybe up to three hundred percent. All the big companies are not really owned by their founders. They are in debt and the companies are owned by banks or secret investors. You can't use your own money alone to employ only 500 people permanently. List all the companies in the East employing people and determine their ownership structure and leadership and determine thereby how much Yoruba investment is in The east