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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 1:32pm On Jun 16, 2023
BrownSugq:

If the PU results are wrong then the entire Ward & LG results will be wrong too.

He did not say they are wrong but blurry
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 1:32pm On Jun 16, 2023
StainlessCup:


Obi said he won the majority lawful votes.

He has abandoned that prayer
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 1:34pm On Jun 16, 2023
aswani:
When are we going to stop watching INEC chairman on telly and stop listening to journalists under oath and get on with the business of showing falsified results?

As in eh
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by sogodihno: 1:35pm On Jun 16, 2023
jozee8:

If someone should steal your child, will you let him keep the child because he's feeding your child with tea, egg and bread?

Get sense, Peter obi didn't win, no way you can win election in Nigeria without votes from NW and NE

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by aswani(m): 1:37pm On Jun 16, 2023
MyPoint:

I expect LP to present evidences where INEC officials refused to give them password to upload or gave them wrong password or told them not to alter the settings on the picture quality etc

Remember we have not even come to the star witnesses.

What have LP being waiting for all this time if they have all this evidence to hand?

Why didn't they bring their so called star witnesses on the very first day so they can quickly win their case, get the inauguration done and start the process of giving us all a "better Nigeria" as promised?

This is not like Whot where you hold on to your pick 2 and pick 3 cards until the very last minute so they you can do your last card and check up without interruption.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Heffalump(m): 1:39pm On Jun 16, 2023
keymatt:
I don land oh fellow comrades. Let the Vawulence against mandate thief mamoot and EyeNeck begin 😎 Hurricane Peter Obi is coming 😎
Agbados with low ram brain 🧠 should keep off!

Where's Babalawo Lamidi, I want to ask him something. grin

The labour of PO and LP will never end in vain!

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MyPoint: 1:40pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


The tribunal adjourned till Monday instead of tomorrow.they should have insisted on tomorrow

They all need time to strategize. Review their weeks and see how to correct any mistake made by any witness by next week.

A day is okay.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by femisplash: 1:41pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:

Friday
Thanks. I was thinking Wednesday.
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by IamV: 1:41pm On Jun 16, 2023
sogodihno:


Get sense, Peter obi didn't win, no way you can win election in Nigeria without votes from NW and NE

Buhari got all the votes from those regions,and didn't win the presidential election until he got southern votes in the build up to the 2015 presidential election.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys think,or you just spread whatever information you are given in your WhatsApp groups.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MatrixCircle: 1:43pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Those are hearsays and wild allegations.lp hasn't proven anything except that they may have won two states which changes nothing

2 additional states . It changes everything.

Moving. Tinubu from winning 12 states to 10 states is a change. 12 and 10 are different numbers. LP goes 14 states , Tinubu stays on 10. 14 and 10 are different figures.

It also proves they was a fraud.

This will put an eye in the figures of other states of other possible fraud.

So that 2 additional states is a game changer. It proves everything.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MyPoint: 1:46pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


You misunderstand it.the software engineer does not work with AWS so cannot determine.he did not give any prove that inec sabotaged anything.
Lp presented ctc without speaking on them.
The inec chairman statement has no weight,what has weight is what the law specifies.
Lp are not saying they won actually,they are saying tinubu won but through rigging

No he said AWS has 99.9% secured and available.

You don't need to work there to know. He probably used AWS to warehouse the data he got from irev.

If there is a downtime, as an aws user you ought to get a mail about the downtime.

Do you know if AWS is subpoena to explain if there was a downtime on 25th Feb?

LP told you they have not brought their star witness.

Just imagine what will happen if INEC chairman said they have aws issue and AWS says there was no issue from their end?

Relax. I am begining to understand LP strategy. It is making good sense.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by jozee8: 1:47pm On Jun 16, 2023
sogodihno:


Get sense, Peter obi didn't win, no way you can win election in Nigeria without votes from NW and NE
Since you're certain he didn't win, there's no need to panic na. He's in court and I believe those people in court would do what's right.
Just chill!

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by BabaRamota1980: 1:48pm On Jun 16, 2023
00FFT00:
senatordave1 and Garfield1 are one and the same person.

Rules 19 has been massacred by this individual. A cursory look at the logs will show that he is posting from the same IP or IP range. His mac address will most likely be identical.

@seun,mynd44, mukina2, dominique, nlfpmod.

Dude, mac address is private data resource. That's why it is concealed and buried in tcp headers. It is not something you go investigating just to prove a rule violation in a social media forum.

Tinubu Administration has signed Data Privacy Act. Items like this will fall in that jurisdiction.

Use of double identity is not that serious of a violation that you need to dig into private and licensed resource to establish proof.

If he was using those double identities to commit crime or an offense against public interest then I can understand.

Please lets not get carried away.
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MyPoint: 1:55pm On Jun 16, 2023
aswani:


Have you got proof of this because going by proceedings at the Tribunal, LP's lawyers clearly don't?

If you do have proof, you might want to hand it over to them and quickly too because time is running out.

You do realise that even if what you said did happen, if you don't have proof, as far as the Judges are concerned, it didn't happen.


LP have been submitting all the proof since the case began.

All those boxes consist of results
1. From pulling unit
2. From irev
3. From inec CTC
4..possibly their agent copies and police copies.

They have also done their computation in all their statement. Why do you think they talk about schedule, paragraphs etc?

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by OLOKOESHIN: 1:55pm On Jun 16, 2023
saintbillion:
Tinubu days are numbered. He will be deported back to jail
Lol
Cry me ocean

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by IfnobeGod20: 2:02pm On Jun 16, 2023
pandax:


And in APC/INEC purported interview of 23rd February on Tribune Newspaper, INEC is simply saying that BVAS will not be used for TABULATION of raw results, but it will be used for transmission of scanned copies of form EC8A from the polling units in real time.

Is this the kind of technicalities that Wole Olanipekun is renowned for?
The man doesn't win cases based on facts but through technicalities. Thankfully, the tribunal had said, they are not there to look for technicality but raw fact. No country that want justice, fairness and peace will be scouting for technicality which is even alien to our laws. I have been asking people to point out any section of our law that says cases can be won through technicalities. It only retrogress the nation.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Softwareguy21: 2:04pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


You misunderstand it.the software engineer does not work with AWS so cannot determine.he did not give any prove that inec sabotaged anything.
Lp presented ctc without speaking on them.
The inec chairman statement has no weight,what has weight is what the law specifies.
Lp are not saying they won actually,they are saying tinubu won but through rigging
now I can understand better. You are saying stupid things since

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by INDOMIE9090(f): 2:05pm On Jun 16, 2023
Ddeliverer007:


Okay. But the slaves have bought all your inheritance. Lol
the one they buy on internet alone but not in reality?
Abi which one are you talking about
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MichaelSokoto(m): 2:06pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


True.unfortunately he focused only on irev without cross checking with the other copies to get a true picture.
Secondly,after finishing from the units,he should have done it ward by ward to see what he will get.
Finally,the only significant change he saw was that 18,000 copies from irev was blurred.he admitted that the other copies might not be blurred.he also admitted that all other states results were consistent except rivers and benue which obi probably won
Listen to urself!

At least u agree dat ur paymaster altered d results massively which Obi is left to show to d whole world...

Na d court we dey so, pls let's focus!
cool

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Bkelly2: 2:07pm On Jun 16, 2023
Ekykool:


“After the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and uploaded into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level.

“The difference between what Kenya did in 2015 and what we are doing is that we are not transmitting raw figures for collation. Infact, the law does not allow for electronic collation of results. So, we don’t transmit raw figures because raw figures transmitted online are more susceptible to hacking, while image of a document is not susceptible to hacking.
"


INEC, shot themselves on the foot with this publication. Which invariably means that upload of result as an image was allowed..hence what we all saw then... Irrespective of how inec may interprete their own electoral law or whatever, IREV was a crucial tool in the last election and cannot be jettisoned...Interesting court proceedings...Let's see how it all goes.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MyPoint: 2:08pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Lp has failed to prove that election wasn't transmitted

Check the portal and you will see that inec is still erring till now.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Bkelly2: 2:10pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


He established probable doubt on his work when he displayed poor knowledge of irev.if a copy of a document is illegible,you simply check the original or another copy except there is only one copy.dont forget that the blurring might be from bvas itself


Very funny analysis......
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by IfnobeGod20: 2:11pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


He said it is a collation system at first and changed his mind later which gives doubt
Whether a collation centre or collation system still mean the same thing. Collation means to put together and that was why in his follow up he submitted that IREVs is not a tabulation centre. Go back and follow the questions and the use of words. Two key words used were distinct "collation centre/system" and "tabulation". Until you beat that before you can understand.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MyPoint: 2:12pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


The electoral act says transmit after election,it didn't say real time.transmusdion may be manual or electronic,it didn't say electronic.and all results are on irev which means transmission happened...

Obi has just five days left.if he bring witnesses to testify non transmission,it will only be few witnesses and will only affect those polling units.obi has lost sir

Even the Tribune newspaper quoted today said it.https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman/#:~:text=Infact

I understand you concern about time. But leave that to the SANS to worry about.

All results are yet to be transmitted as at today. So INEC erred.

Transmission was to be done via bvas which is an electronic device hence the word electronic. The manual computation done at the collation center (from ward to LGA to state) will be redone and the correct result will be presented by PEPT.

That is the essence of all the loads of boxes LP were bringing. If you are not seeing the direction of the case yet then I can help it.

All wrong values used in the computation will be discarded and the correct CTC values used.

Witness you will see will be likely inec chairman, aws, inec ad-hoc staff etc.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 2:13pm On Jun 16, 2023
MyPoint:


Even the Tribune newspaper quoted today said it.

Said what
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 2:13pm On Jun 16, 2023
Bkelly2:



Very funny analysis......

How
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MichaelSokoto(m): 2:14pm On Jun 16, 2023
ubaobi:

Of course IREV is a collation system, according to section 64 sub 4 of the 2022 electoral act, the result sheet form EC8A must be transmitted directly from the polling unit. When the presiding officer presents the result sheet at the collation centre, the ward collation officer must check the result on IREV and confirm that what is on IREV is the same with the physical copy that has been submitted by the presiding officer, it's clearly written in the electoral act. So if images are blurred or what is uploaded is different from what is on the physical form. Then there is a problem. So IREV is not used for collation, form EC8A is the primary source of election results, but the IREV is clearly part. of the collation system. In fact the law clearly states that where there is a discrepancy the ward collation officer will rely on what was uploaded. Read section 64 of the electoral act carefully.
This is highly informative!

I don save am!
cool

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by ncoolsome(m): 2:14pm On Jun 16, 2023
IamV:


This is the Tribune Newspaper of 23rd February 2023.
INEC RIGHTLY noted that RAW FIGURES won't be transmitted of election results
.

PLEASE DOES IT MEAN INEC SAID THEY WILL NOT TRANSMIT PICTURES OF ELECTION RESULTS DIRECTLY FROM POLLING UNIT?

UPDATED;!

HERE'S A LINK TO THE FULL TEXT ;

https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman/#:~:text=Infact%2C%20the%20law%20does%20not,a%20long%20period%20of%20time


Who owns tribune please??how many other paper houses carry the same report/new Dey play
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 2:15pm On Jun 16, 2023
MyPoint:


Check the portal and you will see that inec is still erring till now.

The electoral act demands substantial compliance not total or full compliance.
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 2:16pm On Jun 16, 2023
MichaelSokoto:

Listen to urself!

At least u agree dat ur paymaster altered d results massively which Obi is left to show to d whole world...

Na d court we dey so, pls let's focus!
cool

There was alterations like everywhere in the world but not massive enough

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