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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ItisHi: 7:28pm On Jun 17, 2023
Samueltemi337:
Chelsea fans dreaming again grin
Until season start Na we go know where una dey grin
dem no dey fail to mumu.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ItisHi: 7:30pm On Jun 17, 2023
nateevs:


Actually the Saudis pulled out of the Lukaku deal. Imagine that. They were offering this guy £20m/year tax-free money. But Lakaka said he wanted more money.

Even the Saudis know a bad deal when they see one.
why would Lukaku collect that to play in a finished league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:10pm On Jun 17, 2023
forgiveness:


Very good move. You collect 100m and you still want free loan plus money for Onana.
a straight swap would be the best. Would love to see Barella in chelsea
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:10pm On Jun 17, 2023
Arsenal are preparing to increase their offer for Havertz to £60m. Chelsea signed Havertz for £62.5m 3 years ago. (@JacobSteinberg) #CFC cool cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:12pm On Jun 17, 2023
Chelsea are expected to make a bid for Gabri Veiga. (@JacobSteinberg) #CFC
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kingBolton: 9:02pm On Jun 17, 2023
forgiveness:


Very good move. You collect 100m and you still want free loan plus money for Onana.
Popi will be very happy with this.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:11pm On Jun 17, 2023
ItisHi:
why would Lukaku collect that to play in a finished league.

That's £400k per week tax free

His current salary is around £150k after tax
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 9:27pm On Jun 17, 2023
Capaldi:
Hansi Flick is a fraud. The earlier Germany get rid the better for their Euros campaign.
No be everything be the coach. Germany's problems are beyond Flick. If you like carry Pep come, dem go still play their rubbish. This generation of German players are not as strong as the previous ones, quality and mentality-wise. The mentality issue is even a much bigger problem than the quality of the playing personnel IMO. Flick has tried to change his tactics to get the best out of his team, but these guys just don't know how to win. That Flick has continued to hammer on the need to show more desire, intensity, conviction and other intangibles in his criticism of his team's performances tells you all you need to know. There are still issues such as the lack of a quality no 9 and the full back positions but the fact that too many "top-rated" players are also not performing to expectations is a big part of the crisis. Havertz, Muller, Gundogan, Sane, Gnabry, and even Kimmich at times, are all guilty of this.

Flick no be magician, my guy. There is a limit to things he can do, it's up to these players to step up. I just hope they get it right in time for the Euros sha.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:30pm On Jun 17, 2023
pkasso:
No be everything be the coach. Germany's problems are beyond Flick. If you like carry Pep come, dem go still play their rubbish. This generation of German players are not as strong as the previous ones, quality and mentality-wise. The mentality issue is even a much bigger problem than the quality of the playing personnel IMO. Flick has tried to change his tactics to get the best out of his team, but these guys just don't know how to win. That Flick has continued to hammer on the need to show more desire, intensity, conviction and other intangibles in his criticism of his team's performances tells you all you need to know. There are still issues such as the lack of a quality no 9 and the full back positions but the fact that too many "top-rated" players are also not performing to expectations is a big part of the crisis. Havertz, Muller, Gundogan, Sane, Gnabry, and even Kimmich at times, are all guilty of this.

Flick no be magician, my guy. There is a limit to things he can do, it's up to these players to step up. I just hope they get it right in time for the Euros sha.





The bolded is the mistake that one is making. It is like expecting Iniesta level performance from average player like pedri just because they happen to wear the same jersey number for club and country. The era of looking at Germany team through the prism of Kross- Schweinsteiger- ozil- khedira- lahm- Boateng- Neur is long gone. They should face current reality that they are no longer a force to reckon with and work their ass off to get back to their previous level. By the way, i don't agree with you that they would play rubbish with pep Guardiola as their coach.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 10:49pm On Jun 17, 2023
andrewbaba44:
Any top team getting Nicolas Jackson is getting a fine player ,I get to watch him almost every week while watching my boy chukwueze and I hardly get dissapointed,so Chelsea just got a classy player ,but I expect most of the fans not to rate him because they prefer overrated players and Jackson is underrated ,expecially a dunce like whodeyhause 😁
Why didn't barka bid for him instead of that fat Brazil boy you are currently chasing? Put datro fofana in that Villarreal team too and he'll be scoring in your dead league. Nicolas eis still a prospect that your useless club watched in their own league but still snubbed him to bid for somebody playing in Brazil.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 10:56pm On Jun 17, 2023
popizaino:



The bolded is the mistake that one is making. It is like expecting Iniesta level performance from average player like pedri just because they happen to wear the same jersey number for club and country. The era of looking at Germany team through the prism of Kross- Schweinsteiger- ozil- khedira- lahm- Boateng- Neur is long gone. They should face current reality that they are no longer a force to reckon with and work their ass off to get back to their previous level. By the way, i don't agree with you that they would play rubbish with pep Guardiola as their coach.
LOL. Na national team football be this, no be club level oh. Pep won't get the chance to discard players and buy new ones like he does. Zero transfers. He will be stuck with the same set of players and be forced to work with them, with little time on the training pitch to build team chemistry and instill his playing philosophy, which are notoriously complex by the way. I go like see the miracle e wan perform under such conditions.

National team football coaching is not as easy as most people think it is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 11:32pm On Jun 17, 2023
nateevs:


Hmmm. I thought they concluded previously that he was definitely going on loan.

If he goes to pre-season, then I think he will eclipse Chukwuemeka and become favourite to stay.

lol you have not watched casadei,he is stiff but let me not conclude , everyone gets equal chance during pre-season before the board decides
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 11:33pm On Jun 17, 2023
nateevs:


Actually the Saudis pulled out of the Lukaku deal. Imagine that. They were offering this guy £20m/year tax-free money. But Lakaka said he wanted more money.

Even the Saudis know a bad deal when they see one.
lukaku is a buffoon
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 11:42pm On Jun 17, 2023
Clearlake Capital, majority owners of Chelsea, have an excellent relationship with the Public investment fund of Saudi Arabia. PIF are driving many deals for Saudi’s biggest clubs. (@JacobsBen) 🔵

boehly has no plan dey said ,he is literally giving all our deadwoods on huge wage to Saudi 😂, masterplanner
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:42pm On Jun 17, 2023
pkasso:
No be everything be the coach. Germany's problems are beyond Flick. If you like carry Pep come, dem go still play their rubbish. This generation of German players are not as strong as the previous ones, quality and mentality-wise. The mentality issue is even a much bigger problem than the quality of the playing personnel IMO. Flick has tried to change his tactics to get the best out of his team, but these guys just don't know how to win. That Flick has continued to hammer on the need to show more desire, intensity, conviction and other intangibles in his criticism of his team's performances tells you all you need to know. There are still issues such as the lack of a quality no 9 and the full back positions but the fact that too many "top-rated" players are also not performing to expectations is a big part of the crisis. Havertz, Muller, Gundogan, Sane, Gnabry, and even Kimmich at times, are all guilty of this.

Flick no be magician, my guy. There is a limit to things he can do, it's up to these players to step up. I just hope they get it right in time for the Euros sha.





Midfield has Kroos, Goretzka, Gundogan, Can and Kimmich

Wings/AM has Sane, Musiala, Gnabry, Brandt, Wirtz

Defenders plenty, keepers are world class

Either the problem is their CF Havertz or these are excuses

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 11:46pm On Jun 17, 2023
nateevs:


Actually the Saudis pulled out of the Lukaku deal. Imagine that. They were offering this guy £20m/year tax-free money. But Lakaka said he wanted more money.

Even the Saudis know a bad deal when they see one.
Lukaku is still in his prime and can still play for some good european teams. His stint with Chelsea doesn't really smear him. He's not 33 or 35 years approaching the end of his career like Ronaldo, kante or benzema so he's right to ask for more. The Saudis just want to have everything easy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 11:47pm On Jun 17, 2023
speed finally met Ronaldo so happy for him 😂
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 5:49am On Jun 18, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Lukaku is still in his prime and can still play for some good european teams. His stint with Chelsea doesn't really smear him. He's not 33 or 35 years approaching the end of his career like Ronaldo, kante or benzema so he's right to ask for more. The Saudis just want to have everything easy.

Bros, you and Lukaku are overestimating this size of his career now. And yes boss, he is at the end of his career. The earlier he recognises this, the better for everyone.

Like I predicted at the time, it will be the most financially costly mistake we've ever made. And every single day, he reminds me why we should never have done that deal.

The Saudis are probably willing to drop £40/50m to buy him from us; but even in the wake of his impending departure, this guy is still finding a way to cost us more money. He's now actively robbing us of a chance to recoup some losses. This is after previously costing us over £100m in transfer fees, plus £15m a year in wages since. After this year, nobody will pay £10m for him, and no one in their right mind will value him at £20m/year. Not even the Saudis.


What prime? Dude is 30. But for his physical frame, his footballing age is like 35. And no one in Europe will be touching him with a barge pole. Prime is when a top European club will consider at least, still, a 3-year contract on top your head. Would you buy Lukaku now on a 3-year contract, even at £80k/week?

Dude is willing to take a wage cut to join Inter, but even Inter don't want to buy him. They only want a loan or sale included in a complex deal, without paying cash.

All clubs in Europe are now aware that Lukaku will take a wage cut, but I bet you, if Inter don't strike a deal with Chelsea, then Lukaku will go nowhere. Nobody wants to pay money for him.

That's because everyone, including the Saudis who have stupid money, all recognise evident bad market from a distance.

What prime? I have been avoiding a Lukaku rant for a long time abeg. Let's not get me started.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:37am On Jun 18, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Why didn't barka bid for him instead of that fat Brazil boy you are currently chasing? Put datro fofana in that Villarreal team too and he'll be scoring in your dead league. Nicolas eis still a prospect that your useless club watched in their own league but still snubbed him to bid for somebody playing in Brazil.


Datro fofana that cannot average 1 goal in every 2 games in Norway cheesy cheesy

I hope your dead club won’t ruin the career of that boy sha because that’s the only thing you are known for

It’s your agenda against Barca that will finish you ,I have not seen you calling Madrid 16 year old 70 million striker orobo grin

Common make way for my star boy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:41am On Jun 18, 2023
nateevs:


Actually the Saudis pulled out of the Lukaku deal. Imagine that. They were offering this guy £20m/year tax-free money. But Lakaka said he wanted more money.

Even the Saudis know a bad deal when they see one.

That’s an insult to lukaku if we are to be sincere ,saudi offering lukaku 20M a year ,is it not the same lukaku that was being paid 300k weekly at Chelsea ?

Lukaku isn’t a bad deal ,but all thanks to Chelsea who think since things didn’t work out at Chelsea then it’s finished for him everywhere ,to make it worst he was even Chelsea top scorer but was still labeled a flop grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 8:13am On Jun 18, 2023
Ibime:



Midfield has Kroos, Goretzka, Gundogan, Can and Kimmich

Wings/AM has Sane, Musiala, Gnabry, Brandt, Wirtz

Defenders plenty, keepers are world class

Either the problem is their CF Havertz or these are excuses
Lmao. You wan turn Havertz to scapegoat. These names only look good on paper. In reality, when you put them together, they are average.

BTW, Kroos retired since the last Euros. Gundogan has never been a consistent performer and tactically he doesn't dovetail well with Kimmich in midfield. Can is mid, abeg.

Musiala and Wirtz are only 20, you can't possibly expect much from them. If they play well, fine. If they don't, it's part of the growth process.

No need to talk about Sane and Gnabry. Their issues are well documented at club level and Julian Brandt has never really lived up to expectations despite his obvious talent.

Plenty defenders, but how many of them are quality? Comot Rudiger, and you find yourself scratching your head looking at the defensive options left. Shey na Big Mac Sule abi na Bella Shmurda you wan pick? Even the ones beasting in the league like Schlotterbeck can't carry their form over to the national team. It doesn't matter if the GKs are world-class, if the guys in front of them are not delivering, na F.

Havertz get im own failings but he's only starting because there is no real option at the 9. It will be interesting to see him start alongside Fullkrug up front, maybe something fit click for Germany.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:55am On Jun 18, 2023
Understand Armando Broja has not been discussed in talks for Moisés Caicedo between Chelsea & Brighton at this stage. 🔵 #CFC Pochettino wants to work with Borja in pre-season; Armando's ready and back already after injury.

I feel Fofana is the one that may go on loan to an epl team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:58am On Jun 18, 2023
Kai Havertz is very close to joining Arsenal now! It all depends on the final offer from Arsenal. Transfer fee package expected: at least around £68 million all in. #CFC (@Plettigoal & @SkySportDE)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:07am On Jun 18, 2023
pkasso:
Lmao. You wan turn Havertz to scapegoat. These names only look good on paper. In reality, when you put them together, they are average.

BTW, Kroos retired since the last Euros. Gundogan has never been a consistent performer and tactically he doesn't dovetail well with Kimmich in midfield. Can is mid, abeg.

Musiala and Wirtz are only 20, you can't possibly expect much from them. If they play well, fine. If they don't, it's part of the growth process.

No need to talk about Sane and Gnabry. Their issues are well documented at club level and Julian Brandt has never really lived up to expectations despite his obvious talent.

Plenty defenders, but how many of them are quality? Comot Rudiger, and you find yourself scratching your head looking at the defensive options left. Shey na Big Mac Sule abi na Bella Shmurda you wan pick? Even the ones beasting in the league like Schlotterbeck can't carry their form over to the national team. It doesn't matter if the GKs are world-class, if the guys in front of them are not delivering, na F.

Havertz get im own failings but he's only starting because there is no real option at the 9. It will be interesting to see him start alongside Fullkrug up front, maybe something fit click for Germany.

Niklas Sule is a good defender ,don’t just start this

That german team is complete abeg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 10:57am On Jun 18, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Niklas Sule is a good defender ,don’t just start this

That german team is complete abeg
Sule is a good defender just like Lukaku is a good striker and Hazard is a good winger grin There is no point in being "good" if you can't show it.

Look beyond the names. How many of these guys are actually performing at the top level at their clubs? This past season, the only ones that can hold their heads up high are MATS, Kimmich and Musiala. Shey na Havertz wey dem dey curse here every weekend, abi na Gnabry wey chop bench tire or Sane wey dey fluctuate like NEPA. Even Gundogan sef, na when e reach almost the end of the season, e pick form.

Team wey no get better CF naim complete. Just dey play.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:17am On Jun 18, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Niklas Sule is a good defender ,don’t just start this

That german team is complete abeg
Lmao!!!!

Like Popi said, most of you are looking at Germany through the prism of dem Ozil and Schweinsteiger .

Like pka.sso said, this team is just average and that's the truth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:29am On Jun 18, 2023
Jodera:

Lmao!!!!

Like Popi said, most of you are looking at Germany through the prism of dem Ozil and Schweinsteiger .

Like pka.sso said, this team is just average and that's the truth.

I am not saying the team should be competing to win the World Cup ,but they should be doing better than they are
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:31am On Jun 18, 2023
pkasso:
Sule is a good defender just like Lukaku is a good striker and Hazard is a good winger grin There is no point in being "good" if you can't show it.

Look beyond the names. How many of these guys are actually performing at the top level at their clubs? This past season, the only ones that can hold their heads up high are MATS, Kimmich and Musiala. Shey na Havertz wey dem dey curse here every weekend, abi na Gnabry wey chop bench tire or Sane wey dey fluctuate like NEPA. Even Gundogan sef, na when e reach almost the end of the season, e pick form.

Team wey no get better CF naim complete. Just dey play.

You are mentioning mats as if he is a regular for the Germany team ,once 59 year old neuer is back from injury I am sure mats will be sent to the bench grin

Sule is performing at top level for Dortmund at least
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 11:55am On Jun 18, 2023
andrewbaba44:


You are mentioning mats as if he is a regular for the Germany team ,once 59 year old neuer is back from injury I am sure mats will be sent to the bench grin

Sule is performing at top level for Dortmund at least
MATS chose the wrong era to play for Germany grin It's almost like there is nothing he can do to displace Neuer. Imagine having the best season of your career, and still not sure of a starting shirt when THAT guy comes back.

Sule no dey perform at top level kan kan. He is not even the best defender at Dortmund. He should get back in top shape and maybe Flick fit look im side.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:04pm On Jun 18, 2023
andrewbaba44:


That’s an insult to lukaku if we are to be sincere ,saudi offering lukaku 20M a year ,is it not the same lukaku that was being paid 300k weekly at Chelsea ?

Lukaku isn’t a bad deal ,but all thanks to Chelsea who think since things didn’t work out at Chelsea then it’s finished for him everywhere ,to make it worst he was even Chelsea top scorer but was still labeled a flop grin

See this guy.

At Chelsea, Lukaku's after-tax YTD earnings on his payslip at the end of a financial year will read just under £8m, assuming he is on PAYE.

The Saudis are offering 150% of his current post-tax earnings at Chelsea.

To put things in perspective, it is the equivalent of offering Lukaku £770,000 a week in salary in the Premier League -.pre-tax earnings.

And you think it's an insult to Lakaka. Alhaji pass me what you are smoking.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 12:05pm On Jun 18, 2023
pkasso:
MATS chose the wrong era to play for Germany grin It's almost like there is nothing he can do to displace Neuer. Imagine having the best season of your career, and still not sure of a starting shirt when THAT guy comes back.

Sule no dey perform at top level kan kan. He is not even the best defender at Dortmund. He should get back in top shape and maybe Flick fit look im side.

Too bad for mats ,he will start for any national team that doesn’t parade courtois and maybe Allison

Even when neuer didn’t play for almost a year they still didn’t allow mats keep at the 2018 World Cup grin

You and raumdeuter no rate Sule and yet he was a regular throughout his stay at Bayern and even rejected a new contract
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 12:06pm On Jun 18, 2023
So, the two players that fans used to kill themselves on this thread will be joining Chelsea rivals after a bad season.

Havertz10 and Donstan, Una hero abandoned Chelsea after a rocky season. Wow grin

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