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Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 9:25am On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
A lot of people simply dont know the difference between being landlocked and having access to the sea
You think because a river flows through your end into another man's backyard, that gives you right to his coastal front?

You are really an imbe.

Your Ohaneze successfully lobbied for dry ports in Enugu for a reason.

The dry port in Enugu that is located in Emene by the Airport was created so that Enugu can partake in customs duty .

Cargo containers are sent directly to the dry port in sealed containers that are cleared at this port so that Enugu can benefit from revenue from imports.

You guys think that if you get your Biafra , you will be allocated a coastal front in one of the coastal communities in the Delta ?

Are you seriously this stupid ?

The non existing UN charter you did not quite that you stated gives every nation on earth unfettered access to the sea does not in anywhere supplant sovereignty from one nation to another. Rather it preached on cooperation along diplomatic agreements.

Why then is Niger Republic not having thoroughfare through Nigeria to our coast ?

You dunce.

The river that drains into the Niger Delta estuary into the ocean has been clearly demarcated along state boundaries .

If you get your Biafra today, it will end at the point that river flows into the Niger Delta region.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 9:28am On Jun 30, 2023
TheboyGhost:
He is here, a Yoruba fool always seeking for threads about Igbo and Ibo for your informative correction.

How you manage to sneak into Igbo threads and constitute nuisance amazes me.
Thank God you defined it as an Ibo thread and one I will define as one attempting to colonize sea fronts in the Delta.

This thread says a lot about you people and your unrelentless attempts at expanding into the Niger Delta.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 9:44am On Jun 30, 2023
The level of illiteracy and arrogance combined in this thread is so tiring.

Let me school you ignoramuses.

1. Assuming the stupidity of Gidgiddy to be correct where he stated but did not quote a non existing UN charter that guarantees every nation access to the sea.

For starts , the Nigerian govt that has sovereignty over her coast and territorial waters will be the one to decide from which of their ports your goods pass through.

You can not dictate to someone else how to utilize his resources in a diplomatic negotiation.

If Nigeria insist that all cargo to and fro Biafra pass through Lagos port with a dry dock at Asaba crossing, then there is no way they will allow ships free access through their territory using the river route to your Biafran ports in places like Onistha .

2. If Nigeria agrees to you using these designated river routes, it will be heavily restricted to the kind of vessels that can pass through unless the rivers are dredged. Now this is where the wahala will start because those in the lower Niger Delta will resist this as they have been doing since it was first proposed in the late 90s over concerns of sea water encroachment into fresh water streams and loss of shoreline settlements along these streams.

Following on 2 above, the Nigerian govt can decide what kind of cargo can pass through these routes. For example you want to start drilling your oil for exports, the Nigerian govt can deny heavy tankers access through these rivers on environmental grounds and force you to pipe the oil and gas through a joint trans national pipeline from where the Nigerian govt will get a hefty commission.

So all you ignoramuses believing the highly deluded and greater ignoramus, gidgiddy need to go back and understand what you are discussing here.

Idiots
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 9:52am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
You think because a river flows through your end into another man's backyard, that gives you right to his coastal front?

You are really an imbe.

Your Ohaneze successfully lobbied for dry ports in Enugu for a reason.

The dry port in Enugu that is located in Emene by the Airport was created so that Enugu can partake in customs duty .

Cargo containers are sent directly to the dry port in sealed containers that are cleared at this port so that Enugu can benefit from revenue from imports.

You guys think that if you get your Biafra , you will be allocated a coastal front in one of the coastal communities in the Delta ?

Are you seriously this stupid ?

The non existing UN charter you did not quite that you stated gives every nation on earth unfettered access to the sea does not in anywhere supplant sovereignty from one nation to another. Rather it preached on cooperation along diplomatic agreements.

Why then is Niger Republic not having thoroughfare through Nigeria to our coast ?

You dunce.

The river that drains into the Niger Delta estuary into the ocean has been clearly demarcated along state boundaries .

If you get your Biafra today, it will end at the point that river flows into the Niger Delta region.
Ignoramus, this is not about what you think in your head, this is about international law. Nobody owns the Rivers, same as nobody owns the oceans, you can only own land, not international waters. It is UNCLOS that gives Nigeria territorial waters, and it will change should the South East become an independent country

Article 125 of UNCLOS states:



Article 125

Right of access to and from the sea and freedom of transit

1. Land-locked States shall have the right of access to and from the sea
for the purpose of exercising the rights provided for in this Convention
including those relating to the freedom of the high seas and the common
heritage of mankind. To this end, land-locked States shall enjoy freedom of
transit through the territory of transit States by all means of transport.


In the event that the South East becomes independent, Nigeria has no right to deny it from using Oguta, Ebonyi River, Obuaku Azumini blue River or any tributaries that run through the South East to the ocean, to gain access to the sea. That is the law

There may be certain terms and conditions that the South East may have to negotiate with Nigeria, but their right to access to the sea remains sacrosanct
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 10:06am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
The level of illiteracy and arrogance combined in this thread is so tiring.

Let me school you ignoramuses.

1. Assuming the stupidity of Gidgiddy to be correct where he stated but did not quote a non existing UN charter that guarantees every nation access to the sea.

For starts , the Nigerian govt that has sovereignty over her coast and territorial waters will be the one to decide from which of their ports your goods pass through.

You can not dictate to someone else how to utilize his resources in a diplomatic negotiation.

If Nigeria insist that all cargo to and fro Biafra pass through Lagos port with a dry dock at Asaba crossing, then there is no way they will allow ships free access through their territory using the river route to your Biafran ports in places like Onistha .

2. If Nigeria agrees to you using these designated river routes, it will be heavily restricted to the kind of vessels that can pass through unless the rivers are dredged. Now this is where the wahala will start because those in the lower Niger Delta will resist this as they have been doing since it was first proposed in the late 90s over concerns of sea water encroachment into fresh water streams and loss of shoreline settlements along these streams.

Following on 2 above, the Nigerian govt can decide what kind of cargo can pass through these routes. For example you want to start drilling your oil for exports, the Nigerian govt can deny heavy tankers access through these rivers on environmental grounds and force you to pipe the oil and gas through a joint trans national pipeline from where the Nigerian govt will get a hefty commission.

So all you ignoramuses believing the highly deluded and greater ignoramus, gidgiddy need to go back and understand what you are discussing here.

Idiots
You guys simply dont get it, Nigeria does not own the River Niger or the Atlantic ocean, it is designated as "common heritage of man". You only own the land

So how can you claim sovereignty over what you do not own? Should the South East become the independent state of Biafra, the law expressly states that that Nigeria has no right to deny Biafra access to the sea

Yes there may be negotiations that have to be done over security, tarrifs etc, but this thinking that Nigeria will have blanket powers to deny Biafra access to the sea via its many waterways is sheer fallacy
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 10:08am On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
Ignoramus, this is not about what you think in your head, this is about international law. Nobody owns the Rivers, same as nobody owns the oceans, you can only own land, not international waters. It is UNCLOS that gives Nigeria territorial waters, and it will change should the South East become an independent country

Article 125 of UNCLOS states:



Article 125

Right of access to and from the sea and freedom of transit

1. Land-locked States shall have the right of access to and from the sea
for the purpose of exercising the rights provided for in this Convention
including those relating to the freedom of the high seas and the common
heritage of mankind. To this end, land-locked States shall enjoy freedom of
transit through the territory of transit States by all means of transport.


In the event that the South East becomes independent, Nigeria has no right to deny it from using Oguta, Ebonyi River, Obuaku Azumini blue River or any tributaries that run through the South East to the ocean, to gain access to the sea. That is the law

There may be certain terms and conditions that the South East may have to negotiate with Nigeria, but their right to access to the sea remains sacrosanct
Olodo.

That rubbish does not cede sovereignty of the lower Niger to you in Biafra.

The FG can designate Lagos port for you and a dry port in Asaba as your only access.

Will you dictate to another nation how to utilize their resource ?

You no well.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 10:12am On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
You guys simply dont get it, Nigeria does not own the River Niger or the Atlantic ocean, it is designated as "common heritage of man". You only own the land

So how can you claim sovereignty over what you do not own? Should the South East become the independent state of Biafra, the law expressly states that that Nigeria has no right to deny Biafra access to the sea

Yes there may be negotiations that have to be done over security, tarrifs etc, but this thinking that Nigeria will have blanket powers to deny Biafra access to the sea via its many waterways is sheer fallacy
Let me respond to your ignorant post on what the harsh reality of a Biafra will look like.

See this post below I responded to another useless Okoro thread

FSBoperator:
I laff.

Sea port ?

You mean inland port utilizing the rivers that flow into the Niger Delta estuary .


Now let me school you why Onistha port remains moribund

For start you will need to dredge the shallow and silt filled rivers you intend to use.

This has been proposed but dropped owing to two major reasons :

1. No be beans to dredge the rivers . The rivers are inundated yearly with high volumes of silt . It will not be cost effective to continuously dredge these rivers as heavy silt build up is an annual occurrence during the rainy season.

Even Calabar port is heavily restricted owning to its location in the Calabar marina harbour that can only manage shallow berth vessels thereby restricting the volume and types of vessels it can handle. The Calabar channel is relatively very wide but most of it isn't navigable owing to high silt deposit . Only a very narrow section at the middle is navigable and it is restricted to lighter and shallow berth vessels. Tidal swings also limit its use even at its deepest end as the tides move in and out. It is for this reason the FG in partnership with Cross River state is constructing a deep sea port in Duke Town as Calabar harbour that is even wider and deeper than any of your proposed river routes is not efficient in modern trade.

2. Resistance by Niger Delta states to this misadventure based on the very potent threat of sea water encroachment caused by such dredging is what has stalled the dredging in the first place.

3. Moving heavy container ships and oil tankers deep along these shallow river routes pose a future environmental disaster and blockade of inland ports if any of them run aground .

4. Your states have no powers nor resources to carry out such a project as it cuts across several states with waterways and shorelines along the route firmly in control of the Niger Delta states.

Are you going to forcibly dredge another man's backyard without his consent ?

5. The Federal govt has the final say on international shipping lanes within her territory . If the office of the Nigerian Security Adviser refuses to allow new shipping routes there is nothing you can do about it as international vessels will not be allowed access through these water ways.


Go school Una no go gree.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 10:12am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Olodo.

That rubbish does not cede sovereignty of the lower Niger to you in Biafra.

The FG can designate Lagos port for you and a dry port in Asaba as your only access.

Will you dictate to another nation how to utilize their resource ?

You no well.
Guy, stop this your blind arguement, there are many lanlocjed countries already using UNCLOS to gain access to sea. You will come and tell Biafra not to use Azuminu blue River in Abia state that is only 15 nautical miles to the ocean? Thats even closer to the ocean than Portharcourt wharf
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 10:16am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Let me respond to your ignorant post on what the harsh reality of a Biafra will look like.

See this post below I responded to another useless Okoro thread
All this is drinking panadol over other people's headache. The only thing you need to know as a Nigerian is that if the South East becomes independent, international law grants us access to the sea via our waterways
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 10:17am On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
Guy, stop this your blind arguement, there are many lanlocjed countries already using UNCLOS to gain access to sea. You will come and tell Biafra not to use Azuminu blue River in Abia state that is only 15 nautical miles to the ocean? Thats even closer to the ocean than Portharcourt wharf
Oga, you think the UN has sovereignty over Nigeria ?

Is Nigeria even signatory to such charter and do you think such charter is binding without diplomatic agreements being ironed out between nations ?

So you think UN will fore Nigeria to allow international vessels go as they like in their territory ?

You have no sense at all.

Even if this is the case, what if Nigeria refuses to dredges the river or divert it totally in a way that it becomes unnavigable in their end ?

Will you tell UN to sanction Nigeria on how they manage their water resources within their territory that has no environmental bearing on you upstream ?

Una go learn by force.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 10:22am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Oga, you think the UN has sovereignty over Nigeria ?

Is Nigeria even signatory to such charter and do you think such charter is binding without diplomatic agreements being ironed out between nations ?

So you think UN will fore Nigeria to allow international vessels go as they like in their territory ?

You have no sense at all.

Even if this is the case, what if Nigeria refuses to dredges the river or divert it totally in a way that it becomes unnavigable in their end ?

Will you tell UN to sanction Nigeria on how they manage their water resources within their territory that has no environmental bearing on you upstream ?

Una go learn by force.
Mr man, Nigeria is a signatory to the UN charter of which UNCLOS is part of. This is the law governs the sea's.

As for your water resources bill, it will become null and void at the independence of Biafra and you will have to come up with a new one that does not prevent Biafra from access to the sea, or Nigeria will violate international law
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 10:30am On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
Mr man, Nigeria is a signatory to the UN charter of which UNCLOS is part of. This is the law governs the sea's.

As for your water resources bill, it will become null and void at the independence of Biafra and you will have to come up with a new one that does not prevent Biafra from access to the sea, or Nigeria will violate international law
Ok. Let's assume you are right .

Which landlocked nation has unhindered access to Nigerian ports ?

Secondly, if we give you your Biafra , we will need to sit down and iron things out as your Biafra does not exist and isn't recognised by the UN.

You will have to get Independence first then granted admission into the UN and begin the strenuous process of establishing diplomatic relationship with Nigeria before Nigeria will recognise any useless charter with you.

If there is no charter , your goods will be subject to triple duties - import duty at the port of entry and export duty at the point of land delivery to Biafra.

Your businessmen will rely on Nigeria shipping agents and port restrictions in what you can import and export from their territory . Your businessmen must also have accounts in a Nigerian bank that will be subjected to outflow and inflow restrictions and reparation taxes. It is at this point that your merchants will have to look into having partnership with Nigerian businesses to reduce the tax burden.

You won play international trade politics abi?

We go school una
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by Yemmysworld91: 10:30am On Jun 30, 2023
TheboyGhost:
Have you been to Afikpo in Ebonyi state?
Nope. But have been to abakaliki and was even in the border community linking ebonyi and cross river.

And I don't think Afikpo is connected e to the Atlantic Ocean. So let's focus on the topic
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 10:44am On Jun 30, 2023
Gidgiddy just purge that thought in having any direct access to the sea through any riverine route.

The FG will define which access port they deem fit and not you in Biafra.

If we decide it is through a dry port in Asaba or a bonded rail line from PH then so be it.

Nigeria can even deny what passes through her port. You want to import weapons in a build up to militarisation and we will seize that consignment.

It will be explicitly stated in black and white which goods can pass through our ports.

I hope you guys will tell yourselves the truth one day and see that you are in no position whatsoever to dictate or leverage against the Nigerian state.

Your Biafra will be a vassal of Nigeria dependent solely on Nigeria for everything .

We will dictate who rules or doesn't rule you


We will dictate your foriegn policy and where we see you alligning with hostile nations will treat you as one and do the needful.

You will have less freedom and opportunities than you can ever imagine.

We can easily limit or cut food imports . Block air access, divert rivers or engineer dams as a future weapon to control you.


You don't seem to understand that your worst option is Biafra and the only option you should accept is to join the bettersouth in restructuring Nigeria back to Pre Ironsi Zikist one Nigeria.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by Guyman01: 10:59am On Jun 30, 2023
You open thread to bash Igbos but when they start reminding you of the history of Yoruba land of Ilorin not only landlocked but ruled by Fulanis that Yorubas are forced to Dobale to during this Sallah you delete their comments, you can't even take what you are dishing out grin
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 11:31am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Gidgiddy just purge that thought in having any direct access to the sea through any riverine route.

The FG will define which access port they deem fit and not you in Biafra.

If we decide it is through a dry port in Asaba or a bonded rail line from PH then so be it.

Nigeria can even deny what passes through her port. You want to import weapons in a build up to militarisation and we will seize that consignment.

It will be explicitly stated in black and white which goods can pass through our ports.

I hope you guys will tell yourselves the truth one day and see that you are in no position whatsoever to dictate or leverage against the Nigerian state.

Your Biafra will be a vassal of Nigeria dependent solely on Nigeria for everything .

We will dictate who rules or doesn't rule you


We will dictate your foriegn policy and where we see you alligning with hostile nations will treat you as one and do the needful.

You will have less freedom and opportunities than you can ever imagine.

We can easily limit or cut food imports . Block air access, divert rivers or engineer dams as a future weapon to control you.


You don't seem to understand that your worst option is Biafra and the only option you should accept is to join the bettersouth in restructuring Nigeria back to Pre Ironsi Zikist one Nigeria.
Dont worry about it, Im not a Lawyer but the international law of UNCLOS is there and very clear. When the time comes, we will know if the government of Nigeria will keep to the law it is signatory to, or show the world it is lawless. Thats when you Nigerians will know that the River Niger, its tributaries and the Atlantic Ocean are all owned by nobody except God

In the meantime, study section 125 of UNCLOS and read it well if you can read



Article 125

Right of access to and from the sea and freedom of transit

1. Land-locked States shall have the right of access to and from the sea
for the purpose of exercising the rights provided for in this Convention
including those relating to the freedom of the high seas and the common
heritage of mankind. To this end, land-locked States shall enjoy freedom of
transit through the territory of transit States by all means of transport.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 11:38am On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
Dont worry about it, Im not a Lawyer but the international law of UNCLOS is there and very clear. When the time comes, we will know if the government of Nigeria will keep to the law it is signatory to, or show the world it is lawless. Thats when you Nigerians will know that the River Niger, its tributaries and the Atlantic Ocean are all owned by nobody except God

In the meantime, study section 125 of UNCLOS and read it well if you can read



Article 125

Right of access to and from the sea and freedom of transit

1. Land-locked States shall have the right of access to and from the sea
for the purpose of exercising the rights provided for in this Convention
including those relating to the freedom of the high seas and the common
heritage of mankind. To this end, land-locked States shall enjoy freedom of
transit through the territory of transit States by all means of transport.
Lol.

The UN has no sovereignty over Nigeria .

Having right does not excuse you on forming diplomatic Relationship in trade and access to the sea.

Even the UN charter you quoted does not explicitly state what "access to sea " means.

If your goods can pass through our ports fine.

But we have the right to designate which port and route it will take within our territorial sphere.

If we say no to you having direct shipping route through our rivers there is nothing you can do but revert to using any of our ports .
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by TheboyGhost(m): 11:43am On Jun 30, 2023
Yemmysworld91:
Nope. But have been to abakaliki and was even in the border community linking ebonyi and cross river.

And I don't think Afikpo is connected e to the Atlantic Ocean. So let's focus on the topic
You haven't been to Afikpo and you want us to talk about waterways in Igboland?

Nah I am not having such discussions with you, thank you.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by TheboyGhost(m): 11:54am On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Thank God you defined it as an Ibo thread and one I will define as one attempting to colonize sea fronts in the Delta.

This thread says a lot about you people and your unrelentless attempts at expanding into the Niger Delta.
What is Niger Delta please?

What is the common identification of those classified as Niger Delta?

Please give me answers to this Questions.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 12:02pm On Jun 30, 2023
TheboyGhost:
What is Niger Delta please?

What is the common identification of those classified as Niger Delta?

Please give me answers to this Questions.
I see this statement regularly by you ewus.

You deginerate the nationality of each Niger Delta tribe to be seen as lower Ibo tribe which is never the case towards forcing us to see ourselves as Ibos when we are not and will never be part of you.

You also promote this as a divisive antic to drive a wedge in our ongoing solidarity to each other.

Yes we are not one homogenous body but we are united against Ibo expansionism.

And that is all you have to disturb yourself over.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 12:05pm On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Lol.

The UN has no sovereignty over Nigeria .

Having right does not excuse you on forming diplomatic Relationship in trade and access to the sea.

Even the UN charter you quoted does not explicitly state what "access to sea " means.

If your goods can pass through our ports fine.

But we have the right to designate which port and route it will take within our territorial sphere.

If we say no to you having direct shipping route through our rivers there is nothing you can do but revert to using any of our ports .
And later you Nigerians will find out that your sovereignty does not extend to international waterways nor the independent state of Biafra. The government of Biafra will build River ports on its land, then you Nigerians can show us and the world what gave you ownership of the River Niger and the Atlantic Ocean
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 12:14pm On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
And later you Nigerians will find out that your sovereignty does not extend to international waterways nor the independent state of Biafra. The government of Biafra will build River ports on its land, then you Nigerians can show us and the world what gave you ownership of the River Niger and the Atlantic Ocean
Oga gidgiddy,you are land locked and have no territorial waters on the high sea.

Territorial waters does not mean International waters.

I thought you were educated but it seems you are grossly ignorant
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 12:17pm On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
And later you Nigerians will find out that your sovereignty does not extend to international waterways nor the independent state of Biafra. The government of Biafra will build River ports on its land, then you Nigerians can show us and the world what gave you ownership of the River Niger and the Atlantic Ocean
Olodo.

So international shipping vessels will not be subject to Nigerian territorial waters claim and they will just breeze into our waters , enter our harbour and use our river route deep inland to your port in Onistha ?


You see as you no get sense.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by TheboyGhost(m): 12:17pm On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
I see this statement regularly by you ewus.

You deginerate the nationality of each Niger Delta tribe to be seen as lower Ibo tribe which is never the case towards forcing us to see ourselves as Ibos when we are not and will never be part of you.

You also promote this as a divisive antic to drive a wedge in our ongoing solidarity to each other.

Yes we are not one homogenous body but we are united against Ibo expansionism.

And that is all you have to disturb yourself over.
You are not from Niger Delta cause you don't even know what Niger Delta is and what makes Niger Delta what it is.

So you can't possibly be from where you know nothing about and there is no Identity called Niger Delta.

Next time move pass me and my mentions if you don't want to be Embarrassed.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 12:26pm On Jun 30, 2023
TheboyGhost:
You are not from Niger Delta cause you don't even know what Niger Delta is and what makes Niger Delta what it is.

So you can't possibly be from where you know nothing about and there is no Identity called Niger Delta.

Next time move pass me and my mentions if you don't want to be Embarrassed.
My message has been passed very clearly to you.

Is there any nationality or tribe in the Niger Delta that is captured under the umbrella of Ohaneze ?

Even the Ikwere and Anioma Ibos are not with Ohaneze but prefer to be under PANDEF.


If you like call me whatever to suit your delusions.

I am only here on this forum to ensure you fools are reminded on the SS and Niger Delta people's position.

We are not Ibo nor Biafrans.

You can not dictate to us our political trajectory .

Last I remember, when the struggle was going on in the Niger Delta we did not invite you to join us in our struggle for resource control and it is on record that your legislators , political elite and traditional rulers all sided with the north against any talk of resource control to the SS.


We know you as the greatest enemy of the Niger Delta and this jealousy of seeing a new cultural identity being forged among several distinct nations with a similar cultural background is what is paining you guys as a strong United Niger Delta is dangerous to your Zionist ambitions .
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by gidgiddy: 12:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
Olodo.

So international shipping vessels will not be subject to Nigerian territorial waters claim and they will just breeze into our waters , enter our harbour and use our river route deep inland to your port in Onistha ?


You see as you no get sense.
How do you think you got your territorial water? It is UNCLOS that gave it to you. And when the independent State of Biafra emerges, 25 nautical miles to the Sea, UNCLOS will grant it its own

Dont worry about it all, when Biafra comes, you will all understand international law very well
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 12:33pm On Jun 30, 2023
gidgiddy:
How do you think you got your territorial water? It is UNCLOS that gave it to you. And when the independent State of Biafra emerges, 25 nautical miles to the Sea, UNCLOS will grant it its own

Dont worry about it all, when Biafra comes, you will all understand international law very well
Mumu

When you get your dot Republic, it will be encircled by Nigeria if not Niger Delta Republic.

Those who control the coast , are the only ones with territorial claims to the ocean extending from the coast up to 22km into the sea.

Even that river you claim is yours will terminate at the existing state boundaries.

The lowe half will form part of Nigeria's territorial water ways and you dare not step an inch into it or risk gunboat action on you.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by ugocliff(m): 12:59pm On Jun 30, 2023
AuschwitzPrefec:
Same Crowther that brought Christianity and education to your cursed region is whom you insult?

Same Crowther that translated the Bible to Ibo and even was the first to document Ibo culture to the world long before your useless Achebe and that woke Chiamanda were ever born ?

You see,you Ibos have a way of hating on those who helped you and friending those who enslaved your ass.

You are cursed.
Get ur facts right kid, Ajahi crowther only accompanied the missionaries that brought Christianity to the igbos, he did well in did

And he never translated the bible to Igbo, when making research check sources don't disgrace ur ancestors

Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by Yorubapiglet: 1:25pm On Jun 30, 2023
Bro, No need for the lectures. Why stress your educated brain for uneducated mizcreants?


proeast:
This issue has been argued severally in the past and concluded. I wonder why they keep bringing it up again.

Now to enlighten you, once Igbos become independent, regardless of whether the boundary ends with SE or greater Igboland, they would still have unfettered access to the ocean. The following points within the SE are closer to the Atlantic than several existing ports in Nigeria:

1. Azumini in Ukwa, Abia state.
2. Osemoto in Iheala, Anambra state.
3. Oguta in Imo State.

These places mentioned above are closer to the Atlantic than ports in Lagos and P.H. The rivers that flow from there to the ocean are naturally deep enough all year round to berth ships, even very large containerized vessels!

FYI, the Ibom deep sea port isn't located on the coast, but lies in the same latitude with the aforementioned ports in Igboland. So, if a deep sea port can be built in Ibom, why not those places?
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by JOemmy(m): 1:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
I heard that some rivers in the east are less than 25 nautical miles to the sea.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by TheboyGhost(m): 1:30pm On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
My message has been passed very clearly to you.

Is there any nationality or tribe in the Niger Delta that is captured under the umbrella of Ohaneze ?

Even the Ikwere and Anioma Ibos are not with Ohaneze but prefer to be under PANDEF.


If you like call me whatever to suit your delusions.

I am only here on this forum to ensure you fools are reminded on the SS and Niger Delta people's position.

We are not Ibo nor Biafrans.

You can not dictate to us our political trajectory .

Last I remember, when the struggle was going on in the Niger Delta we did not invite you to join us in our struggle for resource control and it is on record that your legislators , political elite and traditional rulers all sided with the north against any talk of resource control to the SS.


We know you as the greatest enemy of the Niger Delta and this jealousy of seeing a new cultural identity being forged among several distinct nations with a similar cultural background is what is paining you guys as a strong United Niger Delta is dangerous to your Zionist ambitions .
You saying trash while the elders on your villages are saying otherwise.

Feed your Ego and live with your thoughts, we have more important works on ground to handle.
Re: Is Southeast Landlocked? by FSBoperator: 1:35pm On Jun 30, 2023
TheboyGhost:
You saying trash while the elders on your villages are saying otherwise.

Feed your Ego and live with your thoughts, we have more important works on ground to handle.
Which elders ?

Even in Asaba that you are now recruiting palm wine tapping losers to speak on your behalf do not occupy any stool in their own ramshackle hut in their community.

Name one prominent Niger Delta who has aligned with your Ohaneze and Biafra rubbish.

The only prominent Niger Delta person to do so in the past was Asari Dokubo who only claimed Biafra to infiltrate IPOB and dislodge it as he has done. And for this you idiots are all calling for his neck.

Lolz.

Sense is far from you and your delusions are making it worse.
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