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Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ttalk:
@ Penguin2, why did Igbo jail Adaka Boro?

Why didn't the Igbo accept SS turn as their turn since they benefitted more in Jonathan's government than the sons and daughters of the SS?

Why did the Imo state drag oil well with Rivers state?

Why didn't Igbo support Wike in PDP during the primary?

Why the majority of Igbo Senators voted against Akpabio in the last Senate presidential election

Why didn't the Igbo leader grant Calabar autonomy when the SW peacefully did?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ttalk: 7:20pm On Jun 30, 2023
Hope you ain't say it is your turn after 8years of the North when we decide to to vote SS for president?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Tranquill: 7:26pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
I think you need to go back to school sir.

Even if it’s night school.

But before then, which election was held in 2010?

And where did your Ijaw people vote in 1999, 2003 and 2007?

Again which year did Igbos vote APGA at the center that decided to “teach them a lesson”?

And lastly, are Ijaws the only inhabitants of Southsouth? What about the Ikwerres? The Etches? Annang, Efik, Ibibio, etc? What about them sir?
It is you that need the night schooling the most.

The South South ethnic minorities never voted en bloc with you people so stop spewing out trash.

Your parents may not have told you but, in the late fifties during the federal election, most minority ethnic groups like the Ogonis gave Awolowo's party the majority vote. How did the Igbos react? A teenage student like Ken Saro-Wiwa (may his soul rest in peace) who was not even old enough to have voted in that election, was bullied and harassed by Igbo staff members at Government College Umuahia. They were insulting him and his Ogoni people, the same trait that over 90% of you have inherited.

Old Rivers State during the second republic was an NPN state while Igbo States were NPP so stop deceiving yourself by imagining vain things.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Raf4: 7:29pm On Jun 30, 2023
Must you yigbos embarrass yourselves with all these unnecessary naked lies just to obtain favour from SS?

In 1979 elections, Bendel state (now Edo and Delta states - SS) voted Awolowo.
Cross River (now Cross River and Akwa-Ibom - SS) voted Shagari, while only Rivers State joined SE to vote Azikiwe. Attachee by force. Shame!!!
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Tranquill: 7:43pm On Jun 30, 2023
Raf4:
Must you yigbos embarrass yourselves with all these unnecessary naked lies just to obtain favour from SS?

In 1979 elections, Bendel state (now Edo and Delta states - SS) voted Awolowo.
Cross River (now Cross River and Akwa-Ibom - SS) voted Shagari, while only Rivers State joined SE to vote Azikiwe. Attachee by force. Shame!!!
The governor of Rivers State from 1979 - 1983 was Melford Okilo (NPN). Not sure about the voting during the presidential though.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ttalk: 7:50pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
South South will never side with either the south east either the southwest.
But the southwest is just as dumb as the southeast, you guys believe Lagos belongs to you, but you will be surprised in case there is a seperation. And to the best of my knowledge, the southwest (Lagos excluded) is impoverished.
Lagos which is a part of Precolonial Benin kingdom naturally belongs with the southsouth, but my guess is that in the case of a seperation, Lagos will become its own country.
Stoplying
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Raf4: 7:51pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
Lol

If not, the Onitsha Main Market which is the biggest in the entire West Africa is enough to generate the IGR of Bayelsa and Cross River combined.
According to IPOB chestbeating statistics, they always claim onitsha to be the largest market in West Africa, but according to verifiable and reliable sources, Kejetia is the biggest

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kejetia_Market#:~:text=The%20Kejetia%20market%20is%20the,over%2010%2C000%20stores%20and%20stalls.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ofunaofu: 7:54pm On Jun 30, 2023
helinues:
SE people are just the only one still wallowing ( no disrespectful) about the 2015 election loss. Which year did both GEJ and Madam peace supported David Lyon of the same Apc you and your likes don't want to hear at all. Are you saying the same 2015 GEJ election loss to Apc has been wiped out from Bayelsa state people. This is politics you either win or lose. Moreover, didn't this same SW people supported GEJ in 2011 election?



Of course the position of the president is more valuable and useful . That's why both SW and SS renewed their old friendship to secure the both position. They rubbed our back, we reciprocated
Helinues, you are the biggest f**l on planet Earth
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Omoawoke(m): 7:58pm On Jun 30, 2023
seunmsg:
Penguin2, why are you Igbos against the unity between South west and south south? Are we not the same southerners again? What is wrong in south west and south south working together over common interest and overall benefit of the south and Nigeria? Is there a law that says south west and south south must not collaborate?

Igbos have made it clear they don’t want to work with the south west on any issue. What then is wrong if we decide to work with our south south brothers? Why can’t you mind your business and leave the south west out of your wailing mouth? Why the obsession with the south west?

Finally, let me correct the impression that the SE and SS belong to the old eastern region. That’s a lie you people always tell to yourself. Edo and about 80% of the current Delta state were never at any time a part of the old eastern region. They were part of the western region before the Midwestern region was formed. Traditionally, Edo and Delta always vote alongside the south west as we are brother’s geographically and ethnically. In fact. Ambrose Ali of Awolowo’s UPN was elected the first Governor of Old Bendel state (Edo and Delta). In 1993, Edo and Delta voted overwhelmingly for MKO while the Igbos voted for Bashir Tofa. So, it is even politically incorrect to claim that the SS and SE always vote along the same line. Even in the last election, the SE gave over 90% of their votes to LP while LP barely got 40% in SS. So, what’s your point again?
They should leave us alone abeg

They want to divide south west and south south. E no fit work grin
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by helinues: 8:01pm On Jun 30, 2023
Ofunaofu:
Helinues, you are the biggest f**l on planet Earth
Mine still good say na small earth, something wey you are the biggest in the milky way galaxy.

grin

Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by helinues: 8:03pm On Jun 30, 2023
Omoawoke:
They should leave us alone abeg

They want to divide south west and south south. E no fit work grin
Funnily, both SW and SS are not even forcing any friendship, it came naturally which so far the friendship is benefiting both sides.

Na pikin wey get money ( votes) parent dey give regards to pass even if na last born..

grin
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Omoawoke(m): 8:26pm On Jun 30, 2023
helinues:
Funnily, both SW and SS are not even forcing any friendship, it came naturally which so far the friendship is benefiting both sides.

Na pikin wey get money ( votes) parent dey give regards to pass even if na last born..

grin
Hahahahh

Southeast knows they are finished without south south. They want to bully them to by force friendship

Akwa ibom and calabar girls dey enter their eyes too. They wan thief their oil and girls join 🤣
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 8:27pm On Jun 30, 2023
Omoawoke:
I know you are not technically sound. Actually, Most of you are not and that’s why you don’t know what you are asking for.

Let me educate you small.

See the map of Nigeria below. Tell me how you want to carve out southeast from a country that surrounds you? Meaning your country will be in the middle of Nigeria. Those countries you mentioned may be landlocked but they are not enveloped by a single country. Even Niger is not enveloped by a single country.


And you talk of river, you think na canoe dem they use carry containers?
Ships cannot pass through rivers oga!!! Stop disgracing yourself and update your knowledge

Southeast can never ever stand on its own
Take a look at the map below.

It’s the map of Lesotho 🇱🇸 enveloped by South Africa.

Has Lesotho died?

And when I talked about River, I wasn’t telling you that seaport will be built on the River. I was telling you about the Southeast’s route to the sea against your narrative of Southeast being landlocked.

I know it’s painful for you to hear.

Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Thomasankara(m):
[/color]you dull small,it's like you lack history of political development in Nigeria. If your post is born out of ignorance,you are forgiven but if it's a delibrate attempt to misinform people,then you should know,there are many educated people on this forum. Take a good study of 1993election,it was only Rivers that went with Igbos,why creating tension where there is none?[color=#770077]
Penguin2:
Since the 1952 elections in the colonial Nigeria till this year’s general elections, about 70 years later, the Southeast and Southsouth have, to a substantial extent, always voted in same direction.

The two regions have been like a woman’s breast where if you are able to suck one, you will get the other one for free. That is that if you can get the Southsouth to support your presidential ambition as a presidential candidate then you are getting the southeast as jara, and vice versa.

This might be because these two regions were historically one region before the balkanization that happened in 1967 at the wake of the Civil War which was intended to weaken the homogeneity of the Old Eastern Region.

But asides the fact that these regions shared same political and regional entity in the past, they are almost, substantially, same people as can be observed from their homogeneous Christianity, similarities in culture, customs, etc. The only substantially separation between these people is dialects.

Now, this near homogeneity is why they tend to share same worldview and are always attracted to same thing, ideas and ideals. Hence the consistency in voting in same direction in successive elections.

This union between SE/SS is why northern politicians have always coveted an alliance between the north and SE/SS. This was the pattern since 1960 when Northern and Eastern alliance birthed the first indigenous government when Tafawa Balewa became Prime Minister and Azikiwe became President. This alliance was sustained in the 1979 and 1983 elections, and between 1999 till 2015.

We can say that that pattern was broken by Buhari in 2015 because he was overly popular in the north. But even Buhari himself courted the North/Eastern alliance in 2 election cycles but failed to get because the Easterners failed to gravitate to him because of the reason we just finished seeing for 8 years.

Now, after the last election where the incumbent president was able to be declared ‘winner’ because Atiku and Obi being on the ballot divided the Northern/Eastern alliance votes, I’ve noticed that Tinubu has commissioned his foot soldiers to start both online and offline propaganda to try to break the bond between the two brothers of Southeast and Southsouth.

That’s why Asari Dokubo started saying gibberish online about how he was selling Igbos and all. It’s obvious the intention was to get the Igbos to react, and from there spark an ethnic friction between the Ijaw and Igbo and from there they will use propaganda to lump other ethnic minorities in Southsouth into it of how Igbos are trying to dominate them and other lies they’ve told since the 1960s.

But the Igbos are always one million miles ahead of these agents of darkness. That’s why till today not even an Igbo baby has responded to Asari Dokubo. You would wonder if all Igbos are in one WhatsApp group where we were instructed not to respond to Asari but we are not. We are just so alike that we reason and react same way to things. We saw through Asari from a million miles and ignored him. Now he has foolishly crawled back to whence he came.

But not only Asari, even here on Nairaland, I’ve seen multiple threads trying to tell Southsouth people why they should stop associating with the Southeast. Some have even created threads to tell Ebonyi people that they are not Igbos just so they would stop adding to the voting powerhouse that is SE/SS.

Now, apart from Asari and online minions, a closer look at the actions Wike, Ibori, Akpabio and co, will tell you that they are trying to re-engineer the Southsouth away from the Southeast and redirect them towards the Southwest so they can birth a SS/SW alliance that would now be going into alliance with the north to win elections. That’s the reason they fought so had to give Akpabio the Senate Presidency just to make it seem that Tinubu cares about the Southsouth.

Hence my question, why is Tinubu and his men trying to separate two brothers?

Do you not know we can see through you from a million miles away?

Do you think your propaganda and shenanigans will separate us?

Do you think this is 1960s when you sold lies and propaganda to cause divisions and succeeded with it?

Who is threatened by the SE/SS unbreakable alliance?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 8:35pm On Jun 30, 2023
Tranquill:
It is you that need the night schooling the most.

The South South ethnic minorities never voted en bloc with you people so stop spewing out trash.

Your parents may not have told you but, in the late fifties during the federal election, most minority ethnic groups like the Ogonis gave Awolowo's party the majority vote. How did the Igbos react? A teenage student like Ken Saro-Wiwa (may his soul rest in peace) who was not even old enough to have voted in that election, was bullied and harassed by Igbo staff members at Government College Umuahia. They were insulting him and his Ogoni people, the same trait that over 90% of you have inherited.

Old Rivers State during the second republic was an NPN state while Igbo States were NPP so stop deceiving yourself by imagining vain things.
You still haven’t answered my question of the election that took place in 2010 and who your Ijaw people voted in 1999, 2003 and 2007.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 8:37pm On Jun 30, 2023
Ttalk:
@ Penguin2, why did Igbo jail Adaka Boro?

Why didn't the Igbo accept SS turn as their turn since they benefitted more in Jonathan's government than the sons and daughters of the SS?

Why did the Imo state drag oil well with Rivers state?

Why didn't Igbo support Wike in PDP during the primary?

Why the majority of Igbo Senators voted against Akpabio in the last Senate presidential election

Why didn't the Igbo leader grant Calabar autonomy when the SW peacefully did?
If the Western Region was such a darling to the people of Mid Western Region, why did they ask for a separate region and made troubles until they were granted referendum?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 8:45pm On Jun 30, 2023
seunmsg:
Penguin2, why are you Igbos against the unity between South west and south south? Are we not the same southerners again? What is wrong in south west and south south working together over common interest and overall benefit of the south and Nigeria? Is there a law that says south west and south south must not collaborate?

Igbos have made it clear they don’t want to work with the south west on any issue. What then is wrong if we decide to work with our south south brothers? Why can’t you mind your business and leave the south west out of your wailing mouth? Why the obsession with the south west?

Finally, let me correct the impression that the SE and SS belong to the old eastern region. That’s a lie you people always tell to yourself. Edo and about 80% of the current Delta state were never at any time a part of the old eastern region. They were part of the western region before the Midwestern region was formed. Traditionally, Edo and Delta always vote alongside the south west as we are brother’s geographically and ethnically. In fact. Ambrose Ali of Awolowo’s UPN was elected the first Governor of Old Bendel state (Edo and Delta). In 1993, Edo and Delta voted overwhelmingly for MKO while the Igbos voted for Bashir Tofa. So, it is even politically incorrect to claim that the SS and SE always vote along the same line. Even in the last election, the SE gave over 90% of their votes to LP while LP barely got 40% in SS. So, what’s your point again?
Nobody said you should not form a union with people of Southsouth but must have to denigrate the Southeast in order to do that?

Do you have to try to rewrite history and sell lies to Southsouth people in order to paint Igbos as their enemy just so you can form a union with them?

Do you have to commission fat pig Asari Dokubo to try to stoke up ethnic friction between the Igbos and Ijaws?

And talking about the history of the Southsouth, 80% of the territory that is now called Southsouth was with the Old Eastern region. So, it’s not out of place if the entire Southsouth is considered to have been part of the Old Eastern region by approximation.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 8:46pm On Jun 30, 2023
FSBoperator:
You know nothing.

Long before Murtala took Asaba , your Biafran rogue soldiers occupied old Bendel driving out Ejoor and from there began rounding up non Igboid young men in places like Warri and from there killing and eating them.

The same thing happened in Cross River and present day Rivers.

Have you asked why the Niger Delta tribes treated you Ike invaders and celebrated the Nigerian federal forces

Professor Akpan wrote a well researched book on this hidden artrocities committed by your cannibal orcs on the Niger Delta minorities during the occupation.

There is even a community in Rivers that holds an annual remberence of their liberation from Biafra.
Why not provide links to some of the books you are making reference to if you are not concocting stories in your head?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 8:49pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
And talking about the history of the Southsouth, 80% of the territory that is now called Southsouth was with the Old Eastern region. So, it’s not out of place if the entire Southsouth is considered to have been part of the Old Eastern region by approximation.
Dude you are fast and lose with reality, the Midwest is more than 50% of the south-south.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by YorubaNinja: 8:50pm On Jun 30, 2023
Ezeama400:
Some of them think there is mighty Chinese wall demarkettimg SS/SE not knowing that looking at the map, SE is nearly inside SS..

The reason for creating SS is to give non Igbos in the region voice at the National politics and Ekwueme made that possible..

Yorubas have been begging for our alliance since time immemorial yet they are not getting it..

Their madness is always at the peak when election is around the corner like they did previously, yet despite seeing the outcome they won't stop creating what doesn't exist..

Inasmuch as there are few disgruntled elements in SS, but even if election is conducted million of times, those disgruntled elements always vote in the same line with SE Igbos.. They will always consider a SE politician ahead of SW politician ..

Tinubu rodents should know that it's easier to divide NE and NW votes (If it's possible) than dividing SS and SE voting pattern during election..

Modified: One clown below me is shouting Akpabio...Even SE Supported Akpabio more than SS senators.. Most SS senators voted for Yari..

Hate has destroyed these people.. They don't even know how NASS elected their principal officers
Okoro Savage on rampage! grin
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 8:51pm On Jun 30, 2023
helinues:
Funnily, both SW and SS are not even forcing any friendship, it came naturally which so far the friendship is benefiting both sides.

Na pikin wey get money ( votes) parent dey give regards to pass even if na last born..

grin
Is it too much to ask that both southeast and southwest stop talking on our (southsouth) behalf?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by YorubaNinja: 8:54pm On Jun 30, 2023
limeta:


we can inter marry, do businesses together and you can also buy properties and migrate to our region


If you can do this as one then house keeping should not be a problem
BIA-FURO! grin
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ttalk: 8:56pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
If the Western Region was such a darling to the people of Mid Western Region, why did they ask for a separate region and made troubles until they were granted referendum?
Because they have self dignity and are self-reliant. They believe they have an identity and can stand on their own unlike some people who after being chased away are ready to die in SW
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 8:59pm On Jun 30, 2023
Christistruth03:
I can even remove Dave Umahi and a few others from the Plot against Akpabio but that your Ohaneze we will leave them to God

They are terrible People who lack Values

It was because of that Plot that Yari thought he had any chance at all

Thank you for the correction it was Yari of Zamfara
The Ohaneze you are quoting is the stupid Ohaneze that has always issued statements supporting Tinubu, isn’t it? That’s Tinubu’s Ohaneze that has nothing to do with Ohaneze Ndigbo Worldwide.

Meanwhile, Senator Jimoh Ibrahim from Ondo State was the Director General of Yari Campaign, should we take it to mean therefore that the Southwest did not support Akpabio??
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 9:01pm On Jun 30, 2023
Ttalk:
Because they have self dignity and are self-reliant. They believe they have an identity and can stand on their own unlike some people who after being chased away are ready to die in SW
No sir!

It was Awolowo and the Yoruba were subjugating them in the Western Region until they could no longer take it.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Penguin2(op): 9:03pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
Dude you are fast and lose with reality, the Midwest is more than 50% of the south-south.
Excuse me!

You mean Edo and some parts of Delta is bigger than Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Bayelsa and some parts of Delta?

By what metrics sir? Landmass or population?
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Stoplying: 9:04pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
No sir!

It was Awolowo and the Yoruba were subjugating them in the Western Region until they could no longer take it.
Can you shut up ?
Speak for your own people and not for my Midwest people. Thank you.

For the records, we left the western region because of fanatical Yoruba who were trying to marginalise everybody whom the Yoruba didn't identify as Yoruba (that included all of the Midwest).
Also, Lagos was never part of the western region.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Benwallt(m): 9:06pm On Jun 30, 2023
What are you afraid of? Your post shows you as insecure persona
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ttalk: 9:11pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
No sir!

It was Awolowo and the Yoruba were subjugating them in the Western Region until they could no longer take it.
We are saying same thing, the SS decided to leave because the believe they can stand on their own but the SE in Lagos have refused to move and inch and are ready to die in Lagos and other SW states
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by seunmsg(m): 9:13pm On Jun 30, 2023
Penguin2:
Nobody said you should not form a union with people of Southsouth but must have to denigrate the Southeast in order to do that?

Do you have to try to rewrite history and sell lies to Southsouth people in order to paint Igbos as their enemy just so you can form a union with them?

Do you have to commission fat pig Asari Dokubo to try to stoke up ethnic friction between the Igbos and Ijaws?

And talking about the history of the Southsouth, 80% of the territory that is now called Southsouth was with the Old Eastern region. So, it’s not out of place if the entire Southsouth is considered to have been part of the Old Eastern region by approximation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05d287NGqp8

You don’t have to lie to yourself to sound woke. If you have a problem with Asari, face him like a man and stop trying to drag Yorubas into what is non of our business. There are historical accounts of Binis, Itshekiris and Ijaws raiding Igbo villages and capturing them as slaves. Above is a YouTube link from 2021 where Reno Omokri said the same thing. Did Yoruba also commission Reno to say same thing in 2021?

History is history. It’s a stubborn past occurrence that can never be changed. It is what it is. Accept your history and stop spewing nonsense around.
Re: Why Is Tinubu And His Men Trying To Severe The SE/SS Bond? by Ttalk: 9:13pm On Jun 30, 2023
Stoplying:
Can you shut up ?
Speak for your own people and not for my Midwest people. Thank you.

For the records, we left the western region because of fanatical Yoruba who were trying to marginalise everybody whom the Yoruba didn't identify as Yoruba (that included all of the Midwest).
Also, Lagos was never part of the western region.
Get your fact right, my part of Lagos was in Western region
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