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Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Penguin2(op): 11:20pm On Jul 02, 2023
ipodstinks:
Show the picture. Even in his achievements, nothing of such was written. Na just mouth talk without proof.
Cure yourself if you care

https://blerf.org/index.php/biography/okpara-michael-ihconukara-1920-1984/

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Penguin2(op): 11:37pm On Jul 02, 2023
Gajagojo:
Do you admit you lied with your claim that SS. follow the same voting pattern as SE. You
That in the 1979 election they didn't vote Azikiwe and he failed to get 25% in a single SS state
That Awolowo won Bendel state and that in 1993_the AD voted Abiola whilst SE voted Tofa ,

Trans Amadi industrial cluster? When did that enter the conversation
You think you can just jump from one lie to the next? I

Let us first resolve your original lies and fabrications

It is a fundamental premise of logic

No one can prove a negative you cannot say a person stole your money and ask him to prove he did not

Rather you prove he did

You claim Okpara built Presidential Hotel

Where is the evidence? Prove it
In statistics, when something/research subject shows 80% accuracy, approximation is allowed.

So, in 80% of the elections in Nigeria since the 1950s, the Southeast and the Southsouth have generally voted in one direction, therefore it’s safe to approximate that the two regions vote in same pattern in elections.

That the pattern varied in 1979 does not in anyway negate that assumption.

Meanwhile in 1993, Abiola won in Anambra and got considerable votes in other southeast states. Or can you downplay Kano’s contribution to Tinubu’s supposed victory in the past election because he didn’t win the state?

And about the Presidential Hotel and Trans-Amadi Industrial Layout in Port Harcourt, they joined the conversation when some of your ilk claimed, falsely, that the minorities in the Old Eastern Region faced as much maltreatment as Awolowo meted to the Midwest people, and I took exception of that claim and cited the even distribution of projects in the old Eastern Region as proof. That Michael Okpara, an Igbo man, built Presidential Hotel in Port Harcourt and the Trans-Amadi Industrial Layout. Those two projects are surviving till this day.

Now, can you point to any such similar project built by Awolowo in the old Benin province when they were under Western Region?

Below is your proof. Hopefully you get cured of deficiency in knowledge of these facts.
https://blerf.org/index.php/biography/okpara-michael-ihconukara-1920-1984/

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Gajagojo:
Penguin2:
In statistics, when something/research subject shows 80% accuracy, approximation is allowed.

So, in 80% of the elections in Nigeria since the 1950s, the Southeast and the Southsouth have generally voted in one direction, therefore it’s safe to approximate that the two regions vote in same pattern in elections.

That the pattern varied in 1979 does not in anyway negate that assumption.

Meanwhile in 1993, Abiola won in Anambra and got considerable votes in other southeast states. Or can you downplay Kano’s contribution to Tinubu’s supposed victory in the past election because he didn’t win the state?

And about the Presidential Hotel and Trans-Amadi Industrial Layout in Port Harcourt, they joined the conversation when some of your ilk claimed, falsely, that the minorities in the Old Eastern Region faced as much maltreatment as Awolowo meted to the Midwest people, and I took exception of that claim and cited the even distribution of projects in the old Eastern Region as proof. That Michael Okpara, an Igbo man, built Presidential Hotel in Port Harcourt and the Trans-Amadi Industrial Layout. Those two projects are surviving till this day.

Now, can you point to any such similar project built by Awolowo in the old Benin province when they were under Western Region?

Below is your proof. Hopefully you get cured of deficiency in knowledge of these facts.
https://blerf.org/index.php/biography/okpara-michael-ihconukara-1920-1984/
80% ?
what is the basis of that ?
you are a liar let us take one lie at a time stop jumping to another lie when we have not finished the first

Bendel state
while it existed witnessed elections in 1979 ,1983 and 1993

These graphics show results for 1979,1983 1993

Those were The only elections


Tell us which of those elections they voted in the same way as the SE the answer is. NEVER


That same fact applies to. Old Cross River(SouthEastern) and Old Rivers states all created in1967 by Gowon.

Throughout their existence till they were split there were 3 elections

NOT FOR ONCE did their voting align with the SE


NOT ONCE

So where do you get 80%

You are a liar

The reality is 0%

Why are you telling us about Anambra?

You are comparing SS with SE

So do not single out Anambra to Tell us Abiola won there
The issue is

Did SS VOTE LIKE SE ?

The answer is NO
Compare the WHOLE SE. which you claimed.
Abiola won SS
Tofa won SE

Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Penguin2(op): 9:20pm On Jul 03, 2023
Gajagojo:
80% ?
what is the basis of that ?
you are a liar let us take one lie at a time stop jumping to another lie when we have not finished the first

Bendel state
while it existed witnessed elections in 1979 ,1983 and 1993

These graphics show results for 1979,1983 1993

Those were The only elections


Tell us which of those elections they voted in the same way as the SE the answer is. NEVER


That same fact applies to. Old Cross River(SouthEastern) and Old Rivers states all created in1967 by Gowon.

Throughout their existence till they were split there were 3 elections

NOT FOR ONCE did their voting align with the SE


NOT ONCE

So where do you get 80%

You are a liar

The reality is 0%

Why are you telling us about Anambra?

You are comparing SS with SE

So do not single out Anambra to Tell us Abiola won there
The issue is

Did SS VOTE LIKE SE ?

The answer is NO
Compare the WHOLE SE. which you claimed.
Abiola won SS
Tofa won SE
The first question I have for you is, do you agree that mathematically, 9.5 is 10 by approximation?

Second, the old Bendel was not in existence in 1993. Delta was carved out of it on 27th August, 1991.

Now, Nigeria held elections in 1952, 1954, 1959, 1964, 1979, 1983, 1993, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and 2023.

That’s about 15 elections in total. I said about because I might not have captured all of the pre colonial elections.

Now, after the Civil War ended in 1970, the Southwest Press went on a propaganda overdrive against the Igbos and painted them as the devils on earth. So it was understandable why no Southeasterners voted in opposite direction with the Southeast. Same sentiments still pervaded in 1983. While the Southsouth region voted Abiola in 1993.

But by 1999, the Southsouth Region started understanding that what they had been told about the Igbos are all lies and propaganda which is why their anti Igbo sentiments died and they started aligning with the Igbos till date; an alignment that is causing you and your fathers sleepless nights.

Now, back to our elections, if out of 15 elections, the Southeast and Southsouth have voted 12 times in one direction what is the percentage? And if you were a researcher researching Nigerian elections, what would your conclusion be about the two regions?
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Gajagojo: 9:56pm On Jul 03, 2023
Penguin2:
The first question I have for you is, do you agree that mathematically, 9.5 is 10 by approximation?

Second, the old Bendel was not in existence in 1993. Delta was carved out of it on 27th August, 1991.

Now, Nigeria held elections in 1952, 1954, 1959, 1964, 1979, 1983, 1993, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and 2023.

That’s about 15 elections in total. I said about because I might not have captured all of the pre colonial elections.

Now, after the Civil War ended in 1970, the Southwest Press went on a propaganda overdrive against the Igbos and painted them as the devils on earth. So it was understandable why no Southeasterners voted in opposite direction with the Southeast. Same sentiments still pervaded in 1983. While the Southsouth region voted Abiola in 1993.

But by 1999, the Southsouth Region started understanding that what they had been told about the Igbos are all lies and propaganda which is why their anti Igbo sentiments died and they started aligning with the Igbos till date; an alignment that is causing you and your fathers sleepless nights.

Now, back to our elections, if out of 15 elections, the Southeast and Southsouth have voted 12 times in one direction what is the percentage? And if you were a researcher researching Nigerian elections, what would your conclusion be about the two regions?
You have written gibberish mixed with your usual lies
E.g there was no election held in 1964.


Again in Presidential elections Azikiwe could not get 25% in one single SS STATE
Again in Presidential elections Azikiwe could not get 25% in one single SS STATE
Again in Presidential elections Azikiwe could not get 25% in one single SS STATE

I have given you examples of 3 clear elections since

Since states were created
Where is your own evidence that SS and SE voted in same direction 12 times
That is a lie

Crucially you need to show that in those elections when SS and SE voted in alignment they did not vote in alignment with SW because that is your premise and to that extent you cannot cite 2003,2007 or 2011 elections BECAUSE SS,SW. And SE all voted in alignment

The so called. SS did not exist before states were created
Rather it was split between the Eastern and Western Regions
You have not provided evidence of one single election where AS aligned with you
Rather you continue to fabricate after lie
All you do is lie and lie
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by aswani(m): 3:16am On Jul 04, 2023
Penguin2:
Now, after the Civil War ended in 1970, the Southwest Press went on a propaganda overdrive against the Igbos and painted them as the devils on earth.
Are you able to expand on this, Penguin2?

Who are the organisations that constitute "The Southwest Press"?

What are the examples of the "propaganda overdrive" they went on to paint Igbos as "devil's on earth"?

I am genuinely interested in your answer and am happy to read any links you can point me to if you don't have the time to address my questions in any detail.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Nobody: 6:13am On Jul 04, 2023
The Midwest fought tooth and nail to be removed from the west? While the minorities in the east were treated like princes and princesses, I presume? So, what would you call what Adaka Boro did? I know you will be cursing him for that history, and for making all this your writeup a pile of bull that it is by that his historic action.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Nobody: 6:15am On Jul 04, 2023
helinues:
Why was Adaka Boro arrested?

What was his offence?

Who arrested him?
Adaka Boro started an armed struggle because he was so shocked by how nice the ibbos were treating his people. He didn't believe anyone could be that nice to his people.
Re: How Awolowo Opposed The Creation Of The Midwestern Region in 1963. by Nobody: 6:22am On Jul 04, 2023
Stoplying:
Yes the Igbos have no history.
But neither do the Yorubas.
The Igbos accept that they have no history whereas the yorubas invent stories of batman dropping from the sky with golden Mr T chains: I think you call it super Oduduwa.
The Oyo empire and its conquests were fabrication? The FG needs to quickly complete those mental health centres they proposed in the dot region. You guys really needs it. Your irrelevance in this country is really driving you guys to the trees.
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