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LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op): 6:04pm On Sep 28, 2020
I've been excited about converting my Camry to LPG.

My excitement soon waned when I went researching possible problems with LPG conversion.

Not to sound like an alarmist, but here are my findings:

1. You lose about 20 - 25 percent of engine performance. Ok fine, I can deal.

2. Valve Seat Recession: this refers to excessive/accelerated wear of the valve seats that comes from running on LPG. Though all valve seats wear with usage, no matter your fuel type, LPG accelerates the process since "vapourised gas has no lubricating and cooling effects". (www.amrautos.co.uk/index.php/lpg-systems for full article on this).

A way around this is to install "flashlube" on the engine to provide lubrication.
Well, this not only raises the running costs of LPG conversion as against it's main attraction -- economy, it's use in cars that are prone to valve wear often do not prevent this excess wear valve seat wears.

While not all cars suffer this LPG-induced excessive valve seats wear, the list is quite long. (Ref: www.amrautos.co.uk/database_problem_cars.pdf).

My car falls in the list above (Toyota, all models from 1998 is in the list) embarassed

I can't deal. cry


Divergent opinions are welcome on the viability of LPG conversion
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by weyreypey: 7:56pm On Sep 28, 2020
oNj:
I've been excited about converting my Camry to LPG.

My excitement soon waned when I went researching possible problems with LPG conversion.

Not to sound like an alarmist, but here are my findings:

1. You lose about 20 - 25 percent of engine performance. Ok fine, I can deal.

2. Valve Seat Recession: this refers to excessive/accelerated wear of the valve seats that comes from running on LPG. Though all valve seats wear with usage, no matter your fuel type, LPG accelerates the process since "vapourised gas has no lubricating and cooling effects". (www.amrautos.co.uk/index.php/lpg-systems for full article on this).

A way around this is to install "flashlube" on the engine to provide lubrication.
Well, this not only raises the running costs of LPG conversion as against it's main attraction -- economy, it's use in cars that are prone to valve wear often do not prevent this excess wear valve seat wears.

While not all cars suffer this LPG-induced excessive valve seats wear, the list is quite long. (Ref: www.amrautos.co.uk/database_problem_cars.pdf).

My car falls in the list above (Toyota, all models from 1998 is in the list) embarassed

I can't deal. cry


Divergent opinions are welcome on the viability of LPG conversion
Check out the difference between LPG and CNG
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by AutoElectNG: 8:10pm On Sep 28, 2020
oNj:
I've been excited about converting my Camry to LPG.

My excitement soon waned when I went researching possible problems with LPG conversion.

Not to sound like an alarmist, but here are my findings:

1. You lose about 20 - 25 percent of engine performance. Ok fine, I can deal.

2. Valve Seat Recession: this refers to excessive/accelerated wear of the valve seats that comes from running on LPG. Though all valve seats wear with usage, no matter your fuel type, LPG accelerates the process since "vapourised gas has no lubricating and cooling effects". (www.amrautos.co.uk/index.php/lpg-systems for full article on this).

A way around this is to install "flashlube" on the engine to provide lubrication.
Well, this not only raises the running costs of LPG conversion as against it's main attraction -- economy, it's use in cars that are prone to valve wear often do not prevent this excess wear valve seat wears.

While not all cars suffer this LPG-induced excessive valve seats wear, the list is quite long. (Ref: www.amrautos.co.uk/database_problem_cars.pdf).

My car falls in the list above (Toyota, all models from 1998 is in the list) embarassed

I can't deal. cry


Divergent opinions are welcome on the viability of LPG conversion
Serious research up there.

Well done brother!
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by searchng4love: 3:57am On Sep 29, 2020
Not enough research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz2XaaZ4XuQ

Toyota Camry Hybrid CNG.
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op): 8:19am On Sep 29, 2020
searchng4love:
Not enough research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz2XaaZ4XuQ

Toyota Camry Hybrid CNG.
Point is not whether any (petrol) car can be converted to LPG or not; the effect on the engine is the issue.
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by searchng4love: 8:43am On Sep 29, 2020
oNj:
Point is not whether any (petrol) car can be converted to LPG or not; the effect on the engine is the issue.
All engines wear and tear even with petrol... your point?
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by fineboynl(m): 3:17pm On Jul 03, 2023
Bad fuel can will also shorting the life of engine.
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 5:28pm On Oct 27, 2024
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke:
fineboynl:
Bad fuel can will also shorting the life of engine.
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by fineboynl(m): 5:51pm On Oct 27, 2024
damiloladuke:
By the time I'm done dealing with you, you will explain to the authorities when I scammed your father and when it became a crime to have multiple accounts on nairaland to promote your different businesses.

You have just messed with the wrong person and I go assure you that in that Abuja that you are, you will be fished out and you will come explain when i run your papa street....bas tard
guy are you ok? Very sure you quoted the wrong person
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 9:16pm On Oct 27, 2024
fineboynl:
guy are you ok? Very sure you quoted the wrong person
Apologies jare. Na the useless author of the post I intend to quote
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 9:17pm On Oct 27, 2024
oNj:
I've been excited about converting my Camry to LPG.

My excitement soon waned when I went researching possible problems with LPG conversion.

Not to sound like an alarmist, but here are my findings:

1. You lose about 20 - 25 percent of engine performance. Ok fine, I can deal.

2. Valve Seat Recession: this refers to excessive/accelerated wear of the valve seats that comes from running on LPG. Though all valve seats wear with usage, no matter your fuel type, LPG accelerates the process since "vapourised gas has no lubricating and cooling effects". (www.amrautos.co.uk/index.php/lpg-systems for full article on this).

A way around this is to install "flashlube" on the engine to provide lubrication.
Well, this not only raises the running costs of LPG conversion as against it's main attraction -- economy, it's use in cars that are prone to valve wear often do not prevent this excess wear valve seat wears.

While not all cars suffer this LPG-induced excessive valve seats wear, the list is quite long. (Ref: www.amrautos.co.uk/database_problem_cars.pdf).

My car falls in the list above (Toyota, all models from 1998 is in the list) embarassed

I can't deal. cry


Divergent opinions are welcome on the viability of LPG conversion
By the time I'm done dealing with you, you will explain to the authorities when I scammed your father and when it became a crime to have multiple accounts on nairaland to promote your different businesses.

You have just messed with the wrong person and I go assure you that in that Abuja that you are, you will be fished out and you will come explain when i run your papa street....bas tard
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op): 9:22am On Oct 28, 2024
damiloladuke:
By the time I'm done dealing with you, you will explain to the authorities when I scammed your father and when it became a crime to have multiple accounts on nairaland to promote your different businesses.

You have just messed with the wrong person and I go assure you that in that Abuja that you are, you will be fished out and you will come explain when i run your papa street....bas tard
Just for the records, here is my reply where I called you out.

Hide all you want, you're still a lowlife sc@mmer.

Here is what happened:


I needed some Skrill funds

Stumbled on his posts where he claims to exchange funds.

I initially Contacted him for $10 transaction (just enough to test his integrity). I made a second $10 payment to him when I realised the initial amount didn't meet Skrill’s minimum Skrill-to-account” transfer.

Just after these payments his excuses started…”I'm converting some funds”....”no success transferring” etc.

Alright, refund me; not a dine till date.


Meanwhile as his transfer wasn't forthcoming, I came online to look for another currency exchanger. Low and behold, I fell into his hands again through another of his numerous accounts.

Knowing sending same bank details he used for his first fraud would expose him, he provided/insisted on receiving payment with his Palmpay. After initial refusal I consented, After All it's $10 until trust is established.

Needless to say I never got the funds till date; Total of $30 lost this fraudster.

Don't be a victim


Come and deny any of it





I wait for your response
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 10:00am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
Just for the records, here is my reply where I called you out.

Hide all you want, you're still a lowlife sc@mmer.

Here is what happened:


I needed some Skrill funds

Stumbled on his posts where he claims to exchange funds.

I initially Contacted him for $10 transaction (just enough to test his integrity). I made a second $10 payment to him when I realised the initial amount didn't meet Skrill’s minimum Skrill-to-account” transfer.

Just after these payments his excuses started…”I'm converting some funds”....”no success transferring” etc.

Alright, refund me; not a dine till date.


Meanwhile as his transfer wasn't forthcoming, I came online to look for another currency exchanger. Low and behold, I fell into his hands again through another of his numerous accounts.

Knowing sending same bank details he used for his first fraud would expose him, he provided/insisted on receiving payment with his Palmpay. After initial refusal I consented, After All it's $10 until trust is established.

Needless to say I never got the funds till date; Total of $30 lost this fraudster.

Don't be a victim


Come and deny any of it





I wait for your response
Are you for real? This is my 3rd year running Skrill transactions and I've never had any issue with anyone.

I'll appreciate if you can post screenshot of the transaction under this thread.

I'm 💯 sure you're mistaken me for another person. For the records I'm ready to take this matter up with you. I don't care what it costs me.

Next time you'll use the pea-sized brain God gave you to do your due diligence before accusing people wrongly.

I know you're in Abuja and I'm definitely going to serve you. It's just a mater of time. You don't even know who you just messed with.

In the mean time I await your screenshot of our transactions.

If you're frustrated by the current government, it's not me you'll pour that upon.
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op):
damiloladuke:
Are you for real? This is my 3rd year running Skrill transactions and I've never had any issue with anyone.

I'll appreciate if you can post screenshot of the transaction under this thread.

I'm 💯 sure you're mistaken me for another person. For the records I'm ready to take this matter up with you. I don't care what it costs me.

Next time you'll use the pea-sized brain God gave you to do your due diligence before accusing people wrongly.

I know you're in Abuja and I'm definitely going to serve you. It's just a mater of time. You don't even know who you just messed with.

In the mean time I await your screenshot of our transactions.

If you're frustrated by the current government, it's not me you'll pour that upon.
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op): 10:25am On Oct 28, 2024
Hope you remember very well now?


Show where you fulfilled your side of the deal or refunded me

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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op): 10:29am On Oct 28, 2024
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 10:44am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
Keep living in denial
Mr man. I'm a Creative Content Developer by profession and run Cryptocurrency business as a side hustle. I'll never write that trashy English whoever scammed you wrote in that screenshot.

I've sent you my number. Call me or drop your number.

There's no ignorance in law. That's how most of you end up in jail for not doing your due diligence. I swear to God if to say I dey that Abuja na today we go fish you out.

Are you mad
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op):
damiloladuke:
Mr man. I'm a Creative Content Developer by profession and run Cryptocurrency business as a side hustle. I'll never write that trashy English whoever scammed you wrote in that screenshot.

I've sent you my number. Call me or drop your number.

There's no ignorance in law. That's how most of you end up in jail for not doing your due diligence. I swear to God if to say I dey that Abuja na today we go fish you out.

Are you mad
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 10:51am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
No peace for you till you refund every penny you took from me.
You're asking me to refund you what I didn't collect from you.. You're a joker.

I understand your plight, but let me explain what he did to you.

The fellow must have known me as a legit vendor. After you contacted him that you needed Skrill, he must have contacted me that he needed a coin. Cuz I don't sell Skrill, I only buy.

After contacting me that needed the coin, he must have requested for my account number and sent it to you.

Now after I must have received payment, I would have sent him the coin he asked for while he left you in the loop.

That's the scam he used for you and I've alerted the community on that.

Like I said. Drop his number so I can check my WhatsApp and see if I ever had any communication with whoever scammed you.

Your refusal to drop that will lead me to take this case as defamation and you won't find it funny at all
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 10:54am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
Lol; are you denying your Palmpay account?


Should I post your account details?
Don't be stupid boy. Anyone other than me can send you my account. Are you that dumb.

I'm asking you to show us the number you were chatting with. You're here stalling.

Mr man if you know what's best for you drop his number and drop your number too.

OK how do we find a solution to this problem if we don't talk. So drop your number.
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke:
oNj:
Hope you remember very well now?


Show where you fulfilled your side of the deal or refunded me
LOL. I don't even use the word "Greetings" in my communication. Oga if you want a solution to your problem, you'd better call me.
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 11:02am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
Lol; are you denying your Palmpay account?


Should I post your account details?
OK better still drop your full name and date and time of the transaction, let me trace it in my Palmpay.

Mind you I'm not refunding you a dime because I'm 💯 sure I must have sent value for the payment. I only want to trace the bastard.

Which kind wahala be this like this
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 11:15am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
You have my messages on WhatsApp.... Be bold enough to reply.


I see you're also denying your account details; it must be difficult living a life of fr@ud


"Wrong contact" and you acknowledged receiving the funds in your Palmpay. Grow up
If you are not chatting with 08038606260 oga you were scammed by a bastard.

I've tried as much as possible to be reasonable with you.

Your refusal to call me, drop your number, the Scammers number shows you're simply trying to defame and I'm definitely going to sue you for this.

My contacts in Abuja will sooner or later fish you out. You'll come and explain yourself to the police
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 11:19am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
You have my messages on WhatsApp.... Be bold enough to reply.


I see you're also denying your account details; it must be difficult living a life of fr@ud


"Wrong contact" and you acknowledged receiving the funds in your Palmpay. Grow up
Why would I deny my account details.

Agunbiade Sanya Palmpay 8038606260 is my details and anyone can copy this and send out to their contacts.. Use your brain

I've explained to you the likely scenario here. I want to believe you don't need your money cuz if you do you'll send your details so we can work out how to get the fellow that scammed.

But I can see you lack brains. Reason why an illiterate must have found it easy to swindle you.

Are you not even ashamed of yourself that a petty school drop out ran you street. You should be crying and not accusing me.

We're both the victims here, but if you don't wanna reason with me. Goodluck to you
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 11:25am On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
You have my messages on WhatsApp.... Be bold enough to reply.


I see you're also denying your account details; it must be difficult living a life of fr@ud


"Wrong contact" and you acknowledged receiving the funds in your Palmpay. Grow up
Let this be the last I hear from you. The so-called aimtoget is a serial scammer and I have no affiliation with him.

Cease dragging my name in the mud otherwise I'll turn this against you and you'll pay dearly for it.

THANK you

Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op):
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Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by oNj(op): 12:18pm On Oct 28, 2024
Here is your account details.....

Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke: 12:35pm On Oct 28, 2024
oNj:
Here is your account details.....
You're a fool. My name is Agunbiade Sanya, not that nonsense you got there.

That guy is a serial scammer devising vicious plans to swindle fools like you.

Him using my account to scam you makes me a victim of identify theft. I asked you to drop his number you're acting like a fool.

This is the last you'll hear from me. Any further defamation post from you I'll swear for your entire generation...

You claim to be learned, yet one drop out run you street... Dumbass
Re: LPG Conversion..... Possible Issues by damiloladuke:
oNj:
Keep trying to swerve attention;

Explain how your Palmpay received funds, and confirmed it... And you claim it's not you
If you don't post screenshot of your chat with my WhatsApp number, you're a bastard
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