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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Aquila99: 5:12pm On Jul 05, 2023
chisomkachy:


https://gazettengr.com/tribunal-bola-tinubus-witness-senator-bamidele-admits-nigerian-president-forfeited-460000-for-narcotics-dealing-money-laundering-in-u-s/



https://dailypost.ng/2023/07/05/tinubu-shetima-apc-closes-defence-with-opeyemi-bamideles-testimony-in-peter-obis-petition/

See Obidients allova d place. Rejoicing. Saying bamidele finished tinubu. Funny. U think dey don't know wat d did by bringing him, an inner caucus member of BAT. Also u think they have not prepared him on d questions. A lawyer for dat matter.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:13pm On Jul 05, 2023
Badgers14:


Witness admitted under cross that it was as a result of illicit drug business.. that was the highlight..
I don't know what you are arguing. No one ever denied it was about illicit drug business but rather was Tinubu involved in it to warrant a criminal forfeiture plus jail? or he just innocently kept money for his client in America who was involved, which would then amount to only a civil forfeiture of the funds without further Penalties?
The latter scenario was what happened.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Emusan(m): 5:17pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralDae:

It doesn't matter. Narcotics related money entered his account but his defense was that he only received money from a client living in America. Judges could not prove whether or not was involved in the Narcotics. If the American judges couldn't prove that, how should our courts go about proving that?

American court did and the reason for the forfeited of that huge amount.

What business was he doing when he is also working with a company?

Many of you will just try to defend without looking at the statement critically.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Exceed15: 5:19pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralPula:
Bamidele, who is the immediate past Chairman of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and a registered member of the American Bar Association, said there was no conviction and sentence against Tinubu as required by law for it to be turned to criminal charges.

Case solved!

Looooool.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Mccullum: 5:20pm On Jul 05, 2023
001Lagos:

So the $460,000 forfeited by Tinubu is for what if not drug?

It is for tax evasion.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Emusan(m): 5:20pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralDae:

I don't know what you are arguing. No one ever denied it was about illicit drug business but rather was Tinubu involved in it to warrant a criminal forfeiture plus jail? or he just innocently kept money for his client in America who was involved, which would then amount to only a civil forfeiture of the funds without further Penalties?
The latter scenario was what happened.

You keep saying client client...


What business was Tinubu doing to make him have a client?

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Exceed15: 5:20pm On Jul 05, 2023
Wait o he actually affirming his involvement in drug.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:21pm On Jul 05, 2023
Emusan:


American court did and the reason for the forfeited of that huge amount.

What business was he doing when he is also working with a company?

Many of you will just try to defend without looking at the statement critically.
If American court found he was also involved in the drug ring, he would not only have forfeited, he would have been extradited to America to serve his term. Especially in a time like 1993 when there was all out war on drugs and racism against blacks was more of a thing than now.

Additionally, America wouldn't grant him visa after that to enter their country anyhow he sees fit.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Emusan(m): 5:21pm On Jul 05, 2023
Mccullum:


It is for tax evasion.

But the case is narcotic related.

Which the witness agree with.

So come with another lie.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:22pm On Jul 05, 2023
Emusan:


But the case is narcotic related.

Which the witness agree with.

So come with another lie.
It was for both. You go read the full court document.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Emusan(m): 5:23pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralDae:

If American court found he was also involved in the drug ring, he would not only have forfeited, he would have been extradited to America to serve his term especially in a time like 1993 when there was all out war on drugs and racism against blacks was more of a thing than now.
Additionally, America wouldn't grant him visa after that to enter their country anyhow he sees fit.

That was the content of the forfeiture case.

Nigeria visa or Guinea?

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:24pm On Jul 05, 2023
Emusan:


You keep saying client client...


What business was Tinubu doing to make him have a client?
He was a Treasurer in Mobil. Do you know who a Treasurer is?

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by luluman: 5:24pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralPula:
Bamidele, who is the immediate past Chairman of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and a registered member of the American Bar Association, said there was no conviction and sentence against Tinubu as required by law for it to be turned to criminal charges.

Case solved!
Are you still blind?
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Emusan(m): 5:24pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralDae:

It was for both. You go read the full court document.

But the main point is narcotic.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:25pm On Jul 05, 2023
Emusan:


That was the content of the forfeiture case.

Nigeria visa or Guinea?
He has travelled to the U.S several times since then. Infact, in 2012 during coronation of Obama, he was invited by the Democrats and given honours by them.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:26pm On Jul 05, 2023
Emusan:


But the main point is narcotic.
What about narcotic? Read my previous submissions. Stop going round in circles.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by uncleade(m): 5:26pm On Jul 05, 2023
I'm now totally convinced that majority of igbos don't understand english language.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by princejohnard(m): 5:27pm On Jul 05, 2023
A CASE SCENARIO

Mr. T just move to chanchanga from Lugbe to start life after rounding up his YOUTH SERVICE at Niger Water board. Mr. T got employed by a local rice mill in the neighborhood.

Due to the high house rent in Chanchanga, Mr T opted to squat with a family friend, Mr. K.

One day Mr.K brought some large amount of money home and asked Mr T to HELP him KEEP IT at it was a well known fact that Mr T is good with money. As a form of favour returned, Mr T collected the money with probing Mr k about the SOURCE of the money.

Few months later, Mr K was ARRESTED for robbery, and charged to court during the investigation by the Minna City Police, it was discovered that some of the PROCEED of Mr K crime is with Mr. T .

Note; Mr. K NEVER mentioned Mr. T as part of his robbery gang and the money the police met in Mr T account is MORE than the suspected CRIME PROCEED.

Throughout the investigation, Mr T was never linked as member of Mr K robbery gang.

Though Mr K NEVER admitted the amount he gave Mr T.

Mr T account was frozen.

During phone investigation with Mr. T admitted SOME PART of the money in his account belong to Mr K .

After a long court case, Mr. T account was unfrozen and the SUSPECTED CRIME PROCEED amount was withheld by the Niger State government.


Please ;

Is Mr T a thief ?

Does the WITHHELD money by the Niger State government from Mr. T account make Mr T a criminal?

If Mr T is indicted how come his company didn't SUSPEND or TERMINATED his employment ?



If you can answer these questions TRUTHFULLY, then you have your ANSWER to whether Tinubu is a criminal or not.

ENOUGH OF ALL THESE POLITICAL WAHALA....

MAY NIGERIA be great!!

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:28pm On Jul 05, 2023
luluman:
Are you still blind?
Nope..

Why?
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by zoedew: 5:28pm On Jul 05, 2023
001Lagos:
It is only in Nigeria that a criminal drug pusher is made president by demented people
Amazing how one can, for political reasons, point to his father’s house with his left hand.
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by goldmatrix(m): 5:28pm On Jul 05, 2023
At this point I think we can share the grace of followship. If court wants their name in print they should sit and see clearly.. Tinubu is drug lord, very bad image for Nigeria. I know to the ethnic afonjas and the hungry basterds like fani it doesn't matter but to true Nigerians it does.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Alliswell248: 5:29pm On Jul 05, 2023
001Lagos:

So the $460,000 forfeited by Tinubu is for what if not drug?

Money laundering......
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by unity004(m): 5:30pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralPula:

Mtchew..

Asking same question everyday..

Tinubu had a civil forfeiture and not a criminal forfeiture. This was why he wasn't charged nor indicted for any crime or drug related crime!

The forfeited money doesn't belong to him in anyway! Like the witness stated, tinubu was never indicted nor charged cuz his forfeiture was a civil one

I think you are right, if tinibu was guilty there is no way He will escape prison in the US as at that time

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Novarisammy2: 5:32pm On Jul 05, 2023
Lotanna2:


How does it disqualify him
did the senator admitted during cross examination that the money forfeited was linked to drugs ?


yes or no

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:32pm On Jul 05, 2023
unity004:

I think you are right, if tinibu was guilty there is no way He will escape prison in the US as at that time
Exactly..

Ain’t no way bro..
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Bluntemperor: 5:33pm On Jul 05, 2023
001Lagos:
It is only in Nigeria that a criminal drug pusher is made president by demented people

Tell us what we don't know,as you expressed your opinion!
It's settled as a a Civil matters,or you be American or you be the judge!
Let's move forward!
No more Campaign!
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralDae: 5:33pm On Jul 05, 2023
princejohnard:
A CASE SCENARIO

Mr. T just move to chanchanga from Lugbe to start life after rounding up his YOUTH SERVICE at Niger Water board. Mr. T got employed by a local rice mill in the neighborhood.

Due to the high house rent in Chanchanga, Mr T opted to squat with a family friend, Mr. K.

One day Mr.K brought some large amount of money home and asked Mr T to HELP him KEEP IT at it was a well known fact that Mr T is good with money. As a form of favour returned, Mr T collected the money with probing Mr k about the SOURCE of the money.

Few months later, Mr K was ARRESTED for robbery, and charged to court during the investigation by the Minna City Police, it was discovered that some of the PROCEED of Mr K crime is with Mr. T .

Note; Mr. K NEVER mentioned Mr. T as part of his robbery gang and the money the police met in Mr T account is MORE than the suspected CRIME PROCEED.

Throughout the investigation, Mr T was never linked as member of Mr K robbery gang.

Though Mr K NEVER admitted the amount he gave Mr T.

Mr T account was frozen.

During phone investigation with Mr. T admitted SOME PART of the money in his account belong to Mr K .

After a long court case, Mr. T account was unfrozen and the SUSPECTED CRIME PROCEED amount was withheld by the Niger State government.


Please ;

Is Mr T a thief ?

Does the WITHHELD money by the Niger State government from Mr. T account make Mr T a criminal?

If Mr T is indicted how come his company didn't SUSPEND or TERMINATED his employment ?



If you can answer these questions TRUTHFULLY, then you have your ANSWER to whether Tinubu is a criminal or not.

ENOUGH OF ALL THESE POLITICAL WAHALA....

MAY NIGERIA be great!!
Thank you very much. A respectable organisation like Mobil would have terminated Tinubu's employment immediately if he was indicted.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by debeginin(m): 5:33pm On Jul 05, 2023
GeneralPula:

Mtchew..

Asking same question everyday..

Tinubu had a civil forfeiture and not a criminal forfeiture. This was why he wasn't charged nor indicted for any crime or drug related crime!

The forfeited money doesn't belong to him in anyway! Like the witness stated, tinubu was never indicted nor charged cuz his forfeiture was a civil one
OBIDIENTS really need to go back to school.
They are everywhere shouting OWN GOAL.
Illiteracy.They have comprehension problem.

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Novarisammy2: 5:34pm On Jul 05, 2023
uncleade:
I'm now totally convinced that majority of igbos don't understand english language.


what has Igbo got to do with this abi u just wan display ur inherited mental deficiencies?

reasoning is definitely an alien to hound dogs whose life has been damaged courtsey of drugs from the drug lord

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Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by GeneralPula: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2023
debeginin:

OBIDIENTS really need to go back school.
They are everywhere shouting OWN GOAL.
Illiteracy.
That’s their style. That’s how they usually labour in vain..

They make noise, but when you check, you won’t find anything significant..
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Lotanna2: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2023
Novarisammy2:

did the senator admitted during cross examination that the money forfeited was linked to drugs ?


yes or no

Is that a disqualifying criteria? What disqualifies him is conviction.see,obi has lost it
Re: Forfeited $460,000 Was A Civil Matter: Tinubu's Witness, Bamidele Tells Tribunal by Badgers14: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2023
Lotanna2:


Yes media highlight.but was he convicted? Was it a criminal case?

Prosecutors sometimes structure a plea deal like that.. 'make our jobs easy and we make your life easy..'

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