1stGenAmerican:


Expungement seals/deletes records, making them inaccessible. People file expungements so that that criminal records can’t be produced.

Lotanna2:

It is not conviction

GeneralDae:

That's the point. He wasn't in the U.S. He was in Nigeria.

1stGenAmerican:


I’m not going in circles at all. Extradition wasn’t necessary because he was already here in the US.

ragna1991:




Ait,, I agree with you, it was civil forfeiture, but what lead to that and where is the proceed from.
I want to know, explain civil forfeiture for me,,.
However, because he was not charged nor convicted does proved him to be innocent of the accusation.

Explaintomeplease.

1stGenAmerican:


He was in the US when he was indicted, in the state of Illinois to be precise. I’m not going to argue with you about something that I’m sure of.
Godspeed.

M4A1carbine:
Let them continue enjoying their useless Propaganda.

1stGenAmerican:


He was in the US when he was indicted, in the state of Illinois to be precise. I’m not going to argue with you about something that I’m sure of.
Godspeed.

1stGenAmerican:


You’re right. This all started when the DEA set up a sting operation which netted Tinubu and his co-defendants. I’m realizing that some of these monikers don’t understand sealing or expunging records after a criminal conviction.
The forfeiture of drug proceeds stems from criminal cases.

001Lagos:

Same way that MKO abiola casted obafemi awolowo from becoming president which led to obafemi awolowo commiting suicide 😂

M4A1carbine:
The issue with these Tinubu supporters is that in a bid to defend or sound morally sound, they indict themselves with obvious lack of knowledge of events.

As you rightly said the operation is a DEA affair, but the useless (SAN) wannabes of Nairaland will be asking questions that truly call to question their brain processing Power.

These are the useful idiots Politicians use to propagate Nonsense and their uneducated and gullible followers will cheer them foolishly.

Thanks for exposing the foolishness of that misfit.

Who is Mr. Bonner?

See why I say it constantly that you people are the worst Propagandist ever?

Mr. Bonner, wrote a letter and you are finding it difficult to use him as a star witness?

With the way you use fake names and even fake accounts to push Propaganda,I can bet $100,000 that the Bonner person is actually a Junkie in the USA that created the Bonner identity for Propaganda.

It's your normal operandi and people don't buy that Nonsense.

Bonner ko .. hard-on ni....spits

GeneralDae:


One Mr. Bonner wrote a letter in plain English on behalf of the American Embassy in Nigeria in which he said that Tinubu had NOT been INDICTED or CONVICTED of ANY crime.

This means that Tinubu was neither formally charged to court or convicted by any court of law for drug or drug related offences or indeed any other offences at all in America after what I am sure was a thorough criminal investigation into the source of his funds.

1stGenAmerican:


You’re right. This all started when the DEA set up a sting operation which netted Tinubu and his co-defendants. I’m realizing that some of these monikers don’t understand sealing or expunging records after a criminal conviction.
The forfeiture of drug proceeds stems from criminal cases.

GeneralPula:

Forfeiture - A situation in which government can take away your property or money if the origin of such item was from illegal dealings..

A forfeiture becomes civil if after investigation, you have no hand in the illegal dealings where the money or property came from! It means you’re a victim of the circumstance yourself! Such person won’t be charged as he/she hasn’t commits any crime..

A forfeiture becomes criminal if after investigation, you have a hand in the illegal dealings where the money or property came from. In this case, such person would be charged and would sure go to jail!

In tinubu's case, he has no hand in the illegal dealings which brought the money into his account. The money doesn't belong to him and he has no knowledge where it came from!

However, IRS found out the money came from a drug trade! IRS involved DEA for more thorough investigation but tinubu wasn't involved! This was why he only forfeited the money and he wasn't charge for any crime!

M4A1carbine:
Who is Mr. Bonner?

See why I say it constantly that you people are the worst Propagandist ever?

Mr. Bonner, wrote a letter and you are finding it difficult to use him as a star witness?

With the way you use fake names and even fake accounts to push Propaganda,I can bet $100,000 that the Bonner person is actually a Junkie in the USA that created the Bonner identity for Propaganda.

It's your normal operandi and people don't buy that Nonsense.

Bonner ko .. hard-on ni....spits

1stGenAmerican:


Thanks. That’s exactly what I’m going to do. I tried discussing this objectively but I see that it’s useless.

Stevosty:
but forfeiture is a form of punishment while narcortics is a crime?

onuman:


Conviction is defined by the English Dictionary as "a
formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence."
A jury is a body of persons
that examine a case and give a verdict.

The jury in Tinubu's drug case was the body of persons who found him guilty of drug trafficking offences and passed sentence of forfeiture.
It was not just one person that ordered Tinubu to forefeit the drug trafficking money.

Nannyservices:

Atleast we agree that he's into Narcotics And a drug Lord.
As for the criminal's removal, it's up to the judges.

onuman:

Can you swear that Tinubu did not know that the source of the huge sums of money he was keeping safe in his account was from drug trafficking?

So you now agree that the Bonner nonsense is a farce and fake Propaganda abi?

You are asking for DEA report, did I tell you that I want to produce it?

You are just confused and even messing ya sef the more.

GeneralDae:

Where is your DEA report?

Lotanna2:


In summary,obi failed

Karlman:
Npw you would not see all those criminals on nairaland who were quick to sentence Mmesoma even before any investigation come here...
That is why whatever they said was about the Jamb results matter was said with hatred and bitterness because the person involved is from the other side.

Tinubu forfeited money he made from drug business but see them telling you he was not guilty but only doing father Christmas that time.
And tomorrow you will say Nigeria will be successful, how will that happen when its already programmed to fail by putting criminals in charge.

GeneralPula:
Bamidele, who is the immediate past Chairman of the Senate Committee on Judiciary and a registered member of the American Bar Association, said there was no conviction and sentence against Tinubu as required by law for it to be turned to criminal charges.

Case solved!

GeneralDae:

This one came from your vivid imaginations. 😄

DesignMaestro:
Obifools are allover the thread celebrating already. It is this your gragra nature that always end in humiliation for you guys.

Bamidele didn't say anything different from what had been said before as far as the forfeiture case is concerned.

Neither Tinubu nor any of his associates has ever before denied that the forfeiture was for drug related case. The point is he was never convicted for drug or any criminal offence in the USA. The forfeited money was traced to some third party who were convicted of drug trafficking offences. Whether he was directly or indirectly involved in drug trafficking is nothing but mere conjecture since no single evidence to prove that he was charged to court or convicted of drug related offence.

So, don't be too excited about this, because:
1. He was never convicted by a US court

2. The incident happened some thirty years ago (the constitution says not more than ten years)

3. He was never found guilty of any criminal offence by any Nigerian court and has no forfeiture case in Nigeria.

GeneralPula:

Of course, but then tinubu didn’t commit the drug crime! Hence why he never got charged! Emotion can’t win you court cases!

The forfeited money was related to drugs? Yes!

Was Tinubu sentenced for the crime? NO!

Why wasn’t tinubu sentenced
or got any indictment? It was cuz he had a civil forfeiture! Not a criminal forfeiture!

WATCHOVER:

I swear it is all over for Tinubu oo