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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by abuzz33: 1:45am On Jul 22, 2023
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 1:59am On Jul 22, 2023
TechGeek777:

Those using Standalone inverter with separate CC to charge they LiFePO4 battery, what happens when the battery is fully charged and you still have Load connected and solar is available.

1. Will the battery keeps charging just to supply power to the load?

2. Will the BMS shutdown inflow of power from the CC and thereby supplying the load directly from the battery?
yes!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 2:02am On Jul 22, 2023
FEGEITOK:
Please how much is 10mm cable now?

Abuja prices please. Lagos prices would be for comparison only.

Bought 20 meters of 10mm in February 2023 at 1,900.00 per meter.

Wondering the cost implications of an upgrade today would be as I need to install my newly acquired panels.

Thanks in advance.

current price: 10mm 2 core =2800 to 3000 per meter

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 2:06am On Jul 22, 2023
dbshaywhy:
Hi good evening professionals...
I will be installing tie grid solar power systems in new 3 bedroom buid... No air condition, no heater, no microwave... Just the regular appliance with 0.5 hp whale submersible pump.
Am currently on 12v system with tubular battery but will ignoring all that with new total systems...
I will love recommendations on what capacity of panels(jinko) , battery(lithium battery) and inverter (brand recommendations required) to work with.
a 24v 3.5kva hybrid inverter, 6pcs of 400w jinko and 24v 230ah/200ah lifepo4 lithium battery can serve..

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oloet: 6:43am On Jul 22, 2023
tetralogyfallot:
grin grin grin when victron energy, morning star, outback, fangpusun, sneider MPPT charge controllers dey, wetin u wan do with one yamayama Felicity. Felicity is a low budget MPPT cc mehn.

😹 Baba go and wear your glasses, he wanted to choose between Felicity and powmr.

Please give him your opinion on the two brands

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oloet: 7:29am On Jul 22, 2023
TechGeek777:

Those using Standalone inverter with separate CC to charge they LiFePO4 battery, what happens when the battery is fully charged and you still have Load connected and solar is available.

1. Will the battery keeps charging just to supply power to the load?

2. Will the BMS shutdown inflow of power from the CC and thereby supplying the load directly from the battery?


I know that with hybrid you can set power to be used from solar alone, but I am considering how possible it will be to use the power from pv(when available) and not touch you battery when you have a floated battery in a standalone point of view.

No, The battery won't keep charging and the BMS won't shutdown power inflow, let me try if I can explain this with my small knowledge .... The charge controller stops charging as soon as the battery gets to the stated voltage in the charging profile , the BMS can also stop charging incase of over charging/over current situation but it shouldn't be doing that everyday
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 7:37am On Jul 22, 2023
TechGeek777:

Those using Standalone inverter with separate CC to charge they LiFePO4 battery, what happens when the battery is fully charged and you still have Load connected and solar is available.

1. Will the battery keeps charging just to supply power to the load?

2. Will the BMS shutdown inflow of power from the CC and thereby supplying the load directly from the battery?


I know that with hybrid you can set power to be used from solar alone, but I am considering how possible it will be to use the power from pv(when available) and not touch you battery when you have a floated battery in a standalone point of view.
I'm also waiting for comprehensive explanation on this.
For lead acid (tubular) battery that I've been using with standalone morningstar Mppt CC..... In bulk stage charging, more amps are pump into the battery.
In absorption stage charging, very limited amps of about 20 to 25 are going into the battery irrespective of how large the pv capacity is.
In float stage, the amps are further reduce to about 5 while maintaining the float stage till charging source is removed or sun is gone.

I'll like to know how it works in lifepo4 battery because I may dedicate standalone CC to my lifepo4 battery bank.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oloet: 8:03am On Jul 22, 2023
isangjohnson:

I'm also waiting for comprehensive explanation on this.
For lead acid (tubular) battery that I've been using with standalone morningstar Mppt CC..... In bulk stage charging, more amps are pump into the battery.
In absorption stage charging, very limited amps of about 20 to 25 are going into the battery irrespective of how large the pv capacity is.
In float stage, the amps are further reduce to about 5 while maintaining the float stage till charging source is removed or sun is gone.

I'll like to know how it works in lifepo4 battery because I may dedicate standalone CC to my lifepo4 battery bank.

It is almost the same only that in lifepo4, the charging has two stages Constant current and constant voltage.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 12:04pm On Jul 22, 2023
TechGeek777:

Those using Standalone inverter with separate CC to charge they LiFePO4 battery, what happens when the battery is fully charged and you still have Load connected and solar is available.

1. Will the battery keeps charging just to supply power to the load?

2. Will the BMS shutdown inflow of power from the CC and thereby supplying the load directly from the battery?


I know that with hybrid you can set power to be used from solar alone, but I am considering how possible it will be to use the power from pv(when available) and not touch you battery when you have a floated battery in a standalone point of view.
When battery is full, the charge controller reduces charge current while maintaining battery voltage, if load is connected, the load will be powered entirely by solar until load demand is greater than what solar can produce then battery supplies energy again.
It is an entirely different case if mains power is present as your inverter will change power source to mains thereby ignoring solar unless it is user editable to prioritize solar over mains power

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:09pm On Jul 22, 2023
Jefferyzz:
I had to check back on our conversation. Can you snap ur CC screen where d amps is displayed. I want to know if the 9a is the panel output or your CC's output

Hello bro, how does your LiFePO4 battery act when floated with your Crown Ricco Plus inverter, does BMS shut power from CC and power the load via battery power?

OR

Does it leave the battery in a floated state and allow power to pass through CC > BATTERY > LOAD?


Note: This question applies to when Load is connected and pv is available during the day!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:28pm On Jul 22, 2023
Valto:
yes!

Thanks, what's the Idle consumption for the SMS Sunmate 6.2kva you posted?

1. IPower Plus 5KVA/48V Solar Hybrid Inverter

2. Felicity IVCM 5KVA/48V

3. SRNE 5KW HF4850S80

Which of these inverters can effectively work with your LiFePO4 batteries, and how would you rearrange them in terms of durability?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TechGeek777: 12:35pm On Jul 22, 2023
Penuelseun:
When battery is full, the charge controller reduces charge current while maintaining battery voltage, if load is connected, the load will be powered entirely by solar until load demand is greater than what solar can produce then battery supplies energy again.
It is an entirely different case if mains power is present as your inverter will change power source to mains thereby ignoring solar unless it is user editable to prioritize solar over mains power

Thanks, this is detailed enough, but I will appreciate others to add to it.

Once again thanks, as this is what I was expecting but I need to confirm from those with hands-on experience.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Allem(m): 1:08pm On Jul 22, 2023
The thing even tire me.
oloet:


😹 Baba go and wear your glasses, he wanted to choose between Felicity and powmr.

Please give him your opinion on the two brands
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Jefferyzz(m): 3:31pm On Jul 22, 2023
My battery doesn't float at all. Cause if nah 30a 27.8v e take reach 97%. Nah that same reading e go take enter 99%. BMS den put off charging feature n only allows cells discharge feature while active balancer discharges the cell that triggered the 3.65v.
The charge controller at this moment only displays the amps which my inverter is taking(eg if I av 270w of load on my inverter, the CC only will show 10a.)
The moment the active balancer reduces the the voltage of the 3.65 to 3.50, BMS activates charging and CC shows 30a again for few secs n drop to 10a again.. d cycle continues like that. This is also the case with jbd BMS wey get passive balancer
TechGeek777:


Hello bro, how does your LiFePO4 battery act when floated with your Crown Ricco Plus inverter, does BMS shut power from CC and power the load via battery power?

OR

Does it leave the battery in a floated state and allow power to pass through CC > BATTERY > LOAD?


Note: This question applies to when Load is connected and pv is available during the day!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 5:25pm On Jul 22, 2023
Valto:
current price: 10mm 2 core =2800 to 3000 per meter
God bless you they sold it to me just now for N2,800.00
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 7:15pm On Jul 22, 2023
FEGEITOK:

God bless you they sold it to me just now for N2,800.00

Bought around 200m at ₦2500/m in April and I was pissed off that it was expensive. Just 3 months down the line we rocking almost ₦3000 na wa.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 8:58pm On Jul 22, 2023
This hard to determine, you need to be creative with your load and use that to determine what your energy usage is, then the next step is possible.

you can play around with the calculator on my bio.

dbshaywhy:
Hi good evening professionals...
I will be installing tie grid solar power systems in new 3 bedroom buid... No air condition, no heater, no microwave... Just the regular appliance with 0.5 hp whale submersible pump.
Am currently on 12v system with tubular battery but will ignoring all that with new total systems...
I will love recommendations on what capacity of panels(jinko) , battery(lithium battery) and inverter (brand recommendations required) to work with.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 9:32pm On Jul 22, 2023
mctfopt:


Bought around 200m at ₦2500/m in April and I was pissed off that it was expensive. Just 3 months down the line we rocking almost ₦3000 na wa.
200meters much oo cheesy, u de draw load from abuja to lagos cheesy

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Juror: 9:37pm On Jul 22, 2023
easyyoke:


Growatt inverters consume too much power o. Is your load that plent? If your load is not up to 2000W, buying the growatt will 1. Be a waste of Money 2. Growatt 3kw inverter is said to use 50W on its own on stanby. That is a lot of power that the inverter will be consuming on its own. But since your system is a 48V system, I dont think you will see any 48V inverter lesser than 2.5Kw upwards but bear in my mind that it consumes a lot ot power. Many youtube videos testify to that
Please share the exact model no. of the growatt that consumes 50W, is it also a transformer type?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Juror: 9:53pm On Jul 22, 2023
Penuelseun:
When battery is full, the charge controller reduces charge current while maintaining battery voltage, if load is connected, the load will be powered entirely by solar until load demand is greater than what solar can produce then battery supplies energy again.
It is an entirely different case if mains power is present as your inverter will change power source to mains thereby ignoring solar unless it is user editable to prioritize solar over mains power
This is correct.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tetralogyfallot(m): 9:55pm On Jul 22, 2023
oloet:


😹 Baba go and wear your glasses, he wanted to choose between Felicity and powmr.

Please give him your opinion on the two brands
why not encourage him to go for the best if he has the capacity.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obitobe: 10:30pm On Jul 22, 2023
Can this work for stand-alone inverters or strictly hybrid inverters

Penuelseun:
When battery is full, the charge controller reduces charge current while maintaining battery voltage, if load is connected, the load will be powered entirely by solar until load demand is greater than what solar can produce then battery supplies energy again.
It is an entirely different case if mains power is present as your inverter will change power source to mains thereby ignoring solar unless it is user editable to prioritize solar over mains power
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 10:40pm On Jul 22, 2023
tetralogyfallot:
grin grin grin when victron energy, morning star, outback, fangpusun, sneider MPPT charge controllers dey, wetin u wan do with one yamayama Felicity. Felicity is a low budget MPPT cc mehn.

Felicity Charge Controller is not bad, and I have used Outback, Midnite Solar and Fangpusun Blue solar in the past. I exchanged my last Midnite Solar for a Felicity and my last Outback FM80 is doing 12V duty in my office since it appears as if its input capacitor has become too weak for my 48V system at home. I currently have 2 Felicity CC 120A and they are both serving admirably.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 11:02pm On Jul 22, 2023
Valto:
200meters much oo cheesy, u de draw load from abuja to lagos cheesy


Needed for like 3 projects. Had to buy more as the number didn't cover the projects.. But it was worth it.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by funshyboi(m): 11:01am On Jul 23, 2023
Hello guys, please which of this wires should I connect to each other ? Is it blue with blue or otherwise.

Don’t mind my question I’m Just a DIY person.

My second question is my battery charger which is tagged “A” in the picture uploaded with the following rating
INPUT:AC100V-240V~2.0A
MAX 47-63Hz,
OUTPUT:14.6V, 5.0A
is faulty.

I got a laptop charger which is tagged “B” in the picture uploaded with following rating
INPUT:AC100V-240V~1.6A
MAX 50-60Hz,
OUTPUT:18.5V, 3.5A

Will it charge the battery efficienciently

Thank you for your response

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by waleayeni1: 12:15pm On Jul 23, 2023
Solar generals, I greet una specially. The numbers you guys mention for solar setup dey make my heart beat fast @Valto and the rest are killing it around here: calling big big numbers like say na chicken change. God dey. My question is; for person like us wey no too hold bar, what's the best and most durable non lithium battery we could buy that would serve us well? I am looking at 2 batteries of 12v 230ah capacity. Also what's the best budget charge controller to use with the batteries. I like DIY systems and I really want to do it myself. My load is not much, a less than 100W fridge, 75W tv, other nominal loads like phones and laptop. I need una experience make I no go use head jam wall
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 1:25pm On Jul 23, 2023
funshyboi:
Hello guys, please which of this wires should I connect to each other ? Is it blue with blue or otherwise.

Don’t mind my question I’m Just a DIY person.

My second question is my battery charger which is tagged “A” in the picture uploaded with the following rating
INPUT:AC100V-240V~2.0A
MAX 47-63Hz,
OUTPUT:14.6V, 5.0A
is faulty.

I got a laptop charger which is tagged “B” in the picture uploaded with following rating
INPUT:AC100V-240V~1.6A
MAX 50-60Hz,
OUTPUT:18.5V, 3.5A

Will it charge the battery efficienciently

Thank you for your response

I don't know if other people can tell you what is what by just looking at those pictures without taking any measurements. If you don't know what you are doing, pls, look for someone that does. Those wires can be wired the other way round, who knows!
Get a multimeter and let us know the positive and negative.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 1:28pm On Jul 23, 2023
waleayeni1:
Solar generals, I greet una specially. The numbers you guys mention for solar setup dey make my heart beat fast @Valto and the rest are killing it around here: calling big big numbers like say na chicken change. God dey. My question is; for person like us wey no too hold bar, what's the best and most durable non lithium battery we could buy that would serve us well? I am looking at 2 batteries of 12v 230ah capacity. Also what's the best budget charge controller to use with the batteries. I like DIY systems and I really want to do it myself. My load is not much, a less than 100W fridge, 75W tv, other nominal loads like phones and laptop. I need una experience make I no go use head jam wall
Since you are on tight budget, why not going for 12v 160ah lifepo4 battery about 2kwh battery bank.
This will be cheaper for you than going for 2 pcs of 12v 230ah lead acid battery.
Work on loads management by powering your fridge/other important loads during the day. By 9 or 10pm bedtime, your tv may be put off.
The remaining minor loads like fans and lightnings will take over till 7am.
You should try and buy rechargeable standing fan or qasa ceiling fan with 5 steps speed/remote control.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by waleayeni1: 2:43pm On Jul 23, 2023
isangjohnson:

Since you are on tight budget, why not going for 12v 160ah lifepo4 battery about 2kwh battery bank.
This will be cheaper for you than going for 2 pcs of 12v 230ah lead acid battery.
Work on loads management by powering your fridge/other important loads during the day. By 9 or 10pm bedtime, your tv may be put off.
The remaining minor loads like fans and lightnings will take over till 7am.
You should try and buy rechargeable standing fan or qasa ceiling fan with 5 steps speed/remote control.

Thank you for responding.

I was gifted a 24v 1.5kva Gloras inverter and I intend to use it for my setup. Like how much is the lithium battery you mentioned? Aren't those batteries crazily expensive? Won't i require 2 units to complement the 24v inverter?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Machiny: 3:30pm On Jul 23, 2023
isangjohnson:

Since you are on tight budget, why not going for 12v 160ah lifepo4 battery about 2kwh battery bank.
This will be cheaper for you than going for 2 pcs of 12v 230ah lead acid battery.
Work on loads management by powering your fridge/other important loads during the day. By 9 or 10pm bedtime, your tv may be put off.
The remaining minor loads like fans and lightnings will take over till 7am.
You should try and buy rechargeable standing fan or qasa ceiling fan with 5 steps speed/remote control.
am interested in this contribution because mine is still around 300watt. But my emphasis is on a freezer of 100w, tv of 45w, rechargeable fan of 45w, with phones. My questions are can an inverter power the freezer directly through solar? Can a 12v set work effectively as a 24v? Whts the benefit over the other? Can price tag required materials to achieve 160ah proposed on lifepo4.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 3:49pm On Jul 23, 2023
Machiny:
am interested in this contribution because mine is still around 300watt. But my emphasis is on a freezer of 100w, tv of 45w, rechargeable fan of 45w, with phones. My questions are can an inverter power the freezer directly through solar? Can a 12v set work effectively as a 24v? Whts the benefit over the other? Can price tag required materials to achieve 160ah proposed on lifepo4.
If your total loads is below 500w, go for 12v system.
System design is based on loads to be powered.
24v system is more expensive than the 12v system and will power more loads than the 12v system.

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