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SIRTee15:
The elohim that will preside over judgements with God, are they mere mortals not not.
That's what I want to know.

Maynman:
What does “mere mortal” mean?
Go and ask ask a Judaist to explain their book to you.
Read the verse bro

Psalm 82:1– yahweh standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the elohim.

Read!
A Psalm of Asaph, Psalm 82,” the first verse reads: אלוהים נצב בעדת אל בקרב אלוהים ישפט – Elohim Nitzav Ba’ehdat El Bekerev Elohim Yishpot – “…God takes His stand in the congregation of God; He judges in the midst of the rulers.”

A form of the word Elohim appears three times in this verse, the first time it refers to God(yahweh)Himself, the second time it is speaking of “the congregation of God,” and the third time refers to “the rulers” of the people. The human rulers spoken of in the context of this chapter are clearly “judges,” those who make judgements for the people.

SIRTee15:

I say you are elohim, you are sons of the most high.

These elohim will they die or not. Are they mere mortals?
That's my question.

I'm not interested in your definition of LORD, Lord or lord.

SIRTee15:

I say you are elohim, you are sons of the most high.

These elohim will they die or not. Are they mere mortals?
That's my question.

I'm not interested in your definition of LORD, Lord or lord.

SIRTee15:

This is another one for u
Psalm 110

The Lord says to my Lord:

“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”

2 The Lord will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying,
“Rule in the midst of your enemies!”
3 Your troops will be willing
on your day of battle.
Arrayed in holy splendor,
your young men will come to you
like dew from the morning’s womb.

4 The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind:
“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”

SIRTee15 dumb head that should be in Sunday school learning basic bible principles would come here with kindergarten knowledge to debate Christian theology.

Get ready my 500 dollars provided u have one in the first place.

And as for your statement about following white man's religion.
U only have a leg to stand on if u are not using anything invented by the white man that replaced what your ancestors were using.

Otherwise SIRTee15 is only making a fool of himself because SIRTee15 is insulting his own own intellect.

MindHacker9009:
Making you aware that your invented Jesus Christ is not the promised Messiah in the Old Testament does not mean one should not be technologically advanced. The Jews are worshipping the True God in the Old Testament and not your invited Jesus Christ and 20% of the world's Nobel prizes are held by the Jews in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine etc and they have contributed a lot to all the technology we are using today.

The Europeans that gave you your invented Jesus Christ, will never allow a teacher to teach Jesus Christ in their schools unless it's a religious teacher and the teacher will all have to teach all the other main religions too. Even doctors and nurses cannot preach your invented Jesus Christ when on duty.

The invented Jesus Christ is a psychological tool used to keep you under developed and it's time you all know this and start serving only the True God of the Jews in the Old Testament without your invented Jesus Christ who is a Roman pagan idol as the True God of the Jews in the Old Testament does not mate with people wifes like in the Roman empire. 

You have not answered the question I asked but you just want to invent your own answer just like your invented Jesus Christ so that you can get the $500. No matter how hard your try to invent your own answer it will not work.

MindHacker9009:
Making you aware that your invented Jesus Christ is not the promised Messiah in the Old Testament does not mean one should not be technologically advanced. The Jews are worshipping the True God in the Old Testament and not your invited Jesus Christ and 20% of the world's Nobel prizes are held by the Jews in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine etc and they have contributed a lot to all the technology we are using today.

The Europeans that gave you your invented Jesus Christ, will never allow a teacher to teach Jesus Christ in their schools unless it's a religious teacher and the teacher will have to teach all the other main religions too. Even doctors and nurses cannot preach your invented Jesus Christ when on duty.

Your invented Jesus Christ is a psychological tool used to keep you under developed and it's time you all know this and start serving only the True God of the Jews in the Old Testament without your invented Jesus Christ who is a Roman pagan idol as the True God of the Jews in the Old Testament does not mate with people wifes like in the Roman empire. 

You have not answered the question I asked but you just want to invent your own answer just like your invented Jesus Christ so that you can get the $500. No matter how hard your try to invent your own answer it will not work.

SIRTee15:
Wannabe Jew, see him laying claim to achievement of another race. Are u a Jew or a black man from sub Sahara Africa.
Besides are u aware there are Jews who have left Judaism, atheist Jews and there are Jews who are Christians. So what exactly is your paint.
Your assertion of Judaism being the true religion is bogus and another empty rhetoric.
How did u come to learn of it, did any of your fathers worship God of Abraham,Isaac or Jacob. Did they know Moses.
But u have the gut to condemn those who chose to worship another Abrahamic religion different from yours.
If u think u guys have the true TORAH, ask the Samaritans and they will tell u that u are wrong.
Samaritans believe their own Torah is the true book given to Moses.
And u know the most interesting thing. The dead sea Scrolls shows that the Samaritan's Torah may actually be the right one.

guy u need to read more b4 coming here to embarrass yourself.

MindHacker9009:
The Jew converting to Christianity are not real Jews. Israel is planning on banning Christianity as they know it's idol worship as it has nothing to do with Judaism. Ethiopia was a Jewish nation from around the time of King Solomon and there were others too that converted to Jewdasim. Also God Almighty of the Jews sent Jonah a Jew to the people of Nineveh to give them HIS message. 

You are the one embarrassing yourself. It is actually the dead sea scrolls you mentioned that lead to research into the origin of Jesus Christ and they discovered that he was an invented messiah as there was no mention of Jesus Christ in the dead sea scrolls.
You have no access to quality information other than the lie you have been told to make you accept an invented messiah. The European gave you and your people Jesus Christ to control your mind to be waiting for a second coming, were as the Europeans are not waiting for second coming that's why the devort their time to developing their countries, but you and you people are waiting for you invented messiah that has gone to prepare an invention mansion for you. Keep waiting, you go wait tire!

The technology you talked about has given us access to information not easily available before. I bet you don't even have the means to watch this official youtube video, which those in developed countries can watch with ease and has made them more enlightened than yourself waiting for your invented Jesus Christ. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

SIRTee15:
Keep your wack conspiracy YouTube video to yourself. Not interested in works of nutjobs.

Stop lying, the dead sea Scrolls has nothing to do with Jesus. They were mainly old testament manuscript.

Read about Messianic Jews and stop embarrassing yourself.
1.6 American Jews identify as Christians. 17% of russian Jews identify as Christians.
There are over 350 thousand messianic Jews who believes jesus is the Messiah- 20 thousand of them live in Israel.
That's why your crazy Benjamin netanyahu is running up and down like a shameless dictator because he knows the truth.

All your balderdash on European abandoning Christianity makes no sense. It wasn't their religion in the first place. There was christianity in Africa b4 it got to Europe.


Finally back to the dead sea Scrolls. Did those ancient manuscripts validate the Samaritan Torah as the true Torah. Yes or No

MindHacker9009:
You are the one lying, the dead sea scrolls also contain events during their time but there is no mention of your invented Jesus Christ.
You have been miss informed as those are not real Jews. When you cannot watch official youtube videos but believe in an invented
Messiah is the reason nothing true can make any sense to you now.

Well the different groups can have their own version of the Torah but it still remains the Old Testament and the Ten Commandments are the same, the crossing of the Red sea is the same, the Psalms are the same. Unlike your invented messiah with two different genealogies from King David even though it was a pagan Roman empire/Greek god that is his father. Even the fake resurrection all have different accounts.

SIRTee15:
Books written in 300bc will contain the life of someone who was born 300 yrs later? Is SIRTee15 u ok at all?

Does the Samaritan have the true Torah? Yes or no. If there's is true. What then shall we call the Torah u guys are parading?

MindHacker9009:
You are the one not ok at all, when you can not even watch official video documentaries on the dead sea scrolls.
Making those documentaries requires solid research and not like your lazy kind of mindset that just takes in any ggabbage thrown at you like the invented Jesus Christ.

A similar level of research used in those documentaries is what is also used to make the technology you see today.

SIRTee15:
Bring whatever evidence they sprouting here. I'm in no mood for some concocted evidence based on inconsequential evidence that's bears no weight when examined empirically.

This is the compilation of your dead sea Scrolls. Over 99@% was compiled b4 Jesus was born.


Now answer my question. Which is the true Torah according to the dead sea Scrolls.
The Samaritan Torah or the Jewish Torah.

SIRTee15:
Bring whatever evidence they sprouting here. I'm in no mood for some concocted evidence based on inconsequential evidence that's bears no weight when examined empirically...

vdestro:
Are you not seeing that vdestro is not ok at all? Do you not see that vdestro is so mad?

Do you not see how mad vdestro has became, (exactly what mad people do) when you asked vdestro if he is ok?

vdestro:
Are you not seeing that you are arguing with a person who is not ok at all? Do you not see that he is so mad that he edits your post?

Do you not see how mad he became, (exactly what mad people do) when you asked him if he is ok?

SIRTee15:


Sometimes SIRTee15 just have to indulge them to make them see SIRTee15 own folly

SIRTee15:


Sometimes u just have to indulge them to make them see their own folly

vdestro:
Someone should be given the nobel prize for accomplishment if they can get a mad vdestro to see that he is mad.

MindHacker9009:
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SIRTee15:
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SIRTee15:
Went through the video. Same baseless and nonsense conspiracy theories as usual.
Emperor Vespesian created Christianity and imaginary passive Messiah called Jesus. The gospels were written by Josephus. Passive Messiah was created to make the rebellious Jews submissive to Roman authority....blablabla

The Jewish Roman war was btw 66 to 70 AD. The gospel of Mark was already in circulation prior to the war. Most of Paul letters were already in circulation and read aloud in churches.

The new testament mentioned real and well known figures of that time that had contact with Jesus and the apostles. These include Ananias the high priest, Caiaphas, Nicodemus, Gamaliel, Herod Antipas, Herod Agrippa, Governors Felix and Festus.

So Josephus forged a fictional book claiming the main characters are real and met these people
I mentioned above. Yet nobody questioned when Herod or Gamaliel met imaginary Jesus or Paul.

U guys must think people living in the 1st century must be so dumb that someone can sell a fictional Messiah that walked around Galilee and Judea; and the people would swallow it hook, line and sinker.
They had no reasoning capacity to question when and where did this imaginary Messiah emerge from.

Let me ask u a simple question? Have u heard of the apostolic fathers. Who are they and what's thier role in the early church.

Maynman:
All the surviving books of josephus is gotten from one of the early church fathers, Eusebius, a Known Forger.

MindHacker9009:
You should ask yourself how did the Jesus Christ religion become an official religion in Rome and Europe which they imposed on all their colonies around the world.

The answer is that the invented Jesus Christ appeared 300 years later to the king in Rome and helped the king to fight and win his civil war in Rome and after winning the war the king made Christianity the official religion as this was the deal he made with the invented Jesus Christ. If this deal had not happened no one would know of Jesus Christ today. 

Now Christians have been deceived that the Jews rejected their messiah the invented Jesus Christ because he came as a gentle turn the other cheek messiah and not the warrior they were expecting but the invented Jesus Christ went to Rome to help the king fight and win a war for the king. If this doesn't convince you that you are following an invented messiah then nothing else will.

SIRTee15:
I'm asking about the apostolic fathers not someone that lived in the 4th century.
If u dont know about apostolic fathers, go and read about them.

SIRTee15:
By the 2nd century, Christianity was well established. So u calling 4th century as the year Jesus Christ emerged shows u late to the game.
The issue we dissecting here is the 1st century. Go and read about Christianity in the 1st century and get enlightened.

Maynman:
Your collection of books you call bible was assembled finally in what century?

SIRTee15:
You this ignorant wannabe atheist.
Go and read about apostolic fathers if u want to engage me

SIRTee15:
Go and read about apostolic fathers if u want to engage me

SIRTee15:
By the 2nd century, Christianity was well established. So u calling 4th century as the year Jesus Christ emerged shows u late to the game.
The issue we dissecting here is the 1st century. Go and read about Christianity in the 1st century and get enlightened.

MindHacker9009:
You are the one that has come very late to the game of your invented Jesus Christ. The followers of Serapis Christos have been called the Bishops of Christ and as Christians, meaning followers of christ. The religion of Serapis Christos has been around since at least 323 bc. In the Greek world when the Greek Ptolemaic Pharaoh's ruled Egypt, a new god was created. This god was named Serapis Christos. The purpose of this god was to unit the Greek and Egyptian pantheons. 

And then in the first century after Paul claimed he saw the resurrected invented Iesus (Jesus) Christos, a new sect was formed also called the followers of Iesus (Jesus) Christos .Some who followed Serapis Christos were confused and thought that Iesus (Jesus) Christos was the same as Serapis Christos. Some who entered into the Way of Jesus continued to follow Serapis as well thinking the two were the same.

Just as Paul was able to brainwash followers in the first century who were brainwashed by Paul that he had seen the resurrected invented Iesus (Jesus) Christos and they were called the followers of Christos and in turn emperor Constantine claimed he too had seen the resurrected invented Iesus (Jesus) Christos to lead him in a civil war battle and able to brainwash followers of Iesus (Jesus) Christos and the followers of Serapis Christos who were confused and thought that Iesus (Jesus) Christos was the same as Serapis Christos all joined emperor Constantine army to fight with Iesus (Jesus) Christos or Iesus (Jesus) Christos helping them to win the war. And the deal with Iesus (Jesus) Christos or Serapis Christos was to make Christianity the official religion of Rome now Europe which they took to the rest of the world.
Hope you got a good lashing from this piece of history you have never heard of before.