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Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by baralatie(m): 8:02pm On Jul 31, 2023
TheBillyonaire:
I agree that Democracy is better than Militocracy, but the President MUST agree that France stays banned from accessing Uranium and other resources of Niger's people.

France should be banned from Afrika.
So what does it have to do with Nigeria since Nigeria is an anglophone country and Niger is a francophone country🤔

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Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:10pm On Jul 31, 2023
TheBillyonaire:
I agree that Democracy is better than Militocracy, but the President MUST agree that France stays banned from accessing Uranium and other resources of Niger's people.

France should be banned from Afrika.

Ban France from accessing Uranium so that Russia can take it from the people? That’s Russia’s real interest.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by engrchykae(m): 8:11pm On Jul 31, 2023
PointB:


A full blown war will not be to Nigeria's advantage. We will waste money, time, and resources. It will be like Russia invading Ukraine. In the end the Nigeriens, who are cousins to our Northern brothers will have reason to resent Nigerians, just as the Ukrainains see the Russians. If US is not pulling the string, won't Nigeria resort to diplomacy to solve this problem? Why not use same diplomacy now? Why waste our time and money to fight proxy war on behalf of US.

I know you are not in support of this, but this is for those who are urging war instead of diplomacy.
you talk as if you don't know that the job of west Africa frontier force is to fight for colonial interest.
From ecomog in Congo till date.
We are Uncle Sam big house niggar
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by baralatie(m): 8:13pm On Jul 31, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Ban France from accessing Uranium so that Russia can take it from the people—that’s Russia’s interest.
Already china controls Nigers oil.
Honestly I don't get what the coup plotters aim to achieve!
The country is not in their hands
In Niger is a french army base and US military base.
And you want to spite them in a game with Russia?
Malis case was straight the military accused the french of not solving insurgency and collusion with the political class.this one is just absolute ment
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Creeper: 8:15pm On Jul 31, 2023
BigBashiru:


Tinubu is a western puppet obviously....doesn't he go to FRANCE of all places for medical treatment.....

Perhaps it’s because they’re fighting him at the tribunal via Obidients. However, he needs to understand that they don’t give a Bleep about him - if they did, they won’t have elevated an illiterate like Obi whilst using the mindless zombie mob they created through their sham “End SARS” colour revolution. All the indirect threats against the Nigerian judiciary also show that they don’t give a Bleep about him.

He’s also probably scared of coup happening in Nigeria. But the probability is low due to how officers get moved around in Nigeria and definitely not under the Yoruba man in-charge of the Nigerian army. He’s a fine soldier with special forces background. So, he’s got a capable hand unless the man decides to go rogue, lol.

He needs to act right and thread carefully - one misstep and Nigeria might explode as part of the collateral damage since the country itself is sitting on a powder keg.

BigBashiru:


Niger borders Algeria. French presence in Niger is not in Algerias best interests. Algeria defeated France in war of independence and Algeria has the highest military arsenal in Africa probably because of what they went thru in the hands of France.

Burkina Faso and Mali just released a joint statement backing the coupists in Russia. And with amount of Russian weapons Algeria has - the weapons are going to flow into Niger (with Russia replenishing the Algerian stock at a later date).
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by BOYS2MEN: 8:17pm On Jul 31, 2023
How did Nigeria won the independence? As e b say bet9ja dey ur eyes....and besides Nigeria no get any business with won...stop deceiving yourself... demoCRAZY is rubbing us our best stars....
BigBashiru:


They did not "give" Africa independence....independence was won by force in Zimbabwe, Algeria and Nigeria....
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by engrchykae(m): 8:18pm On Jul 31, 2023
egbetokuns:


Do you pray or agitate for coup in Nigeria? Don’t be surprise that the same military you pray to take over will arrest your last election candidate or assassinate him. How can u trust soldiers to the point to take over your country. You don’t love your country. Loosing election doesn’t mean your candidate will not win next time. The same Buhari lost many times before he became president.
if I trust soldiers enough to protect our nation.
I will also trust them to lead it
If they can guard Nigeria
They can also guide Nigeria
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by BOYS2MEN: 8:18pm On Jul 31, 2023
Or rather that is to say ....western world still got their hold on Africa...know these and know peace.. as Africans no wan receive sense...
BigBashiru:


They did not "give" Africa independence....independence was won by force in Zimbabwe, Algeria and Nigeria....
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by baralatie(m): 8:18pm On Jul 31, 2023
See how francophone countries brought weapons to west africa
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Karnice600: 8:19pm On Jul 31, 2023
BOYS2MEN:
I am beginning to believe that these westerners are the reason why Africa has been backwards in terms of democracy....the type of democracy we have here in Africa , especially west Africa is DEMOCRAZY.....the military fit come change niger , u never can tell
And you have 76 likes for this display of Down's syndrome?

Issorait
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:20pm On Jul 31, 2023
baralatie:

Already china controls Nigers oil.
Honestly I don't get what the coup plotters aim to achieve!
The country is not in their hands
In Niger is a french army base and US military base.
And you want to spite them in a game with Russia?
Malis case was straight the military accused the french of not solving insurgency and collusion with the political class.this one is just absolute ment

Has anyone in favor of the coup mentioned how the military will operate and cover the financial obligations of the country? Hopefully they aren’t naive enough to think that the military leaders won’t loot any resources available to them while strong arming the citizens and exercising brutality.
Are Mail and Burkina Faso experiencing positive turnarounds? Looks like citizens are running away due to extremist violence.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by BOYS2MEN: 8:24pm On Jul 31, 2023
cool emancipate yourself from mental slavery now..... I wouldn't advice you to purchase the sense because ur poverty dey ooze from dia u dey....before u start to lecture urself wey no b me .....ur president talk say dem no go share palliatives again.....so feel free to eat your hate and drink ur tears.... grin
Karnice600:

And you have 76 likes for this display of Down's syndrome?

Issorait
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by BOYS2MEN: 8:25pm On Jul 31, 2023
It is now 78 meanwhile ur mumu never still get recognition 😁
Karnice600:

And you have 76 likes for this display of Down's syndrome?

Issorait
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by baralatie(m): 8:26pm On Jul 31, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Has anyone in favor of the coup mentioned how the military will operate and cover the financial obligations of the country? Hopefully they aren’t naive enough to think that the military leaders won’t loot any resources available to them.
the coup plotters aim I'll definitely go the economic back door route!
Because how is malinand Burkina Faso trading?
Niger is even delicate.
Does the Niger coup plotters won't to move to the french and the us base to leave after all the agreement?
I don't even want to think of the effect of economic sanctions.sudan begged day and night not to experience them
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:27pm On Jul 31, 2023
engrchykae:
if I trust soldiers enough to protect our nation.
I will also trust them to lead it
If they can guard Nigeria
They can also guide Nigeria

You trust your country’s military that could not defeat Boko Haram, banditry, and their own internal corruption to lead your entire country?
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:32pm On Jul 31, 2023
baralatie:
the coup plotters aim I'll definitely go the economic back door route!
Because how is malinand Burkina Faso trading?
Niger is even delicate.
Does the Niger coup plotters won't to move to the french and the us base to leave after all the agreement?
I don't even want to think of the effect of economic sanctions.sudan begged day and night not to experience them

Maybe they haven’t heard of the current state of Sudan or taken the time to understand that coups become never ending. Military takes over with a leader then another ambitious military man gathers supporters because he feels he can do better then there’s another coup then another then another. The citizens wind up suffering even more and fleeing elsewhere.
I wouldnt be surprised if these guys think that coups have helped nations like Sudan.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by MarketDispatch: 8:32pm On Jul 31, 2023
ryloy:


https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1685787484309917696

USA that is miles away....who will feel the impact of refugees or terrorists as a result of the Military action..is it USA or Nigeria?

Dialogue is best bet.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Creeper: 8:33pm On Jul 31, 2023
ivolt:

A country's army strength is not determined by its size but population and finance.
If you are smart, you would realize that there is a difference between rebel or terrorist groups
doing hit and run and national army.
Niger will be defeated within days and the illiterate generals will flee.
When the capital fall and it will fall so fast, that will be the end.

Lol, sit this one out - you obviously know zilch about military.

The strength of Niger’s army isn’t what’s being discussed here - it’s the vested interest, the support the coup plotters enjoy amongst Niger citizens, and the landmass (it’s very important when invading a country).

To invade a country of Niger’s size and hostile population of 27million and successfully hold it - you’ll need at least 200k ground forces. Where will Nigeria get these forces from?

Hypothetically, let’s say Nigeria captures the capital (which is impossible if Wagner forces can get there before Nigeria) - then what? Create a banana country where the president only controls the capital while other people control different parts of the country? And how is that going to work out for Nigeria when another Jihadist group set up shop along Nigeria and Niger borders?

These guys aren’t illiterates - they were trained by US Special Forces before they were hijacked to serve Russian interests via Wagner. It’s the same story from Mali, to Burkina Faso and Guinea.

Also, there isn’t that much difference between most African rebels and insurgents tbh. They both don’t fight via conventional means and I’d wager that insurgents in Africa are easier to dislodge than rebels and Algeria showed that with how it decimated AQIM. Nigeria army just doesn’t have what it takes and it has a lot to do with corruption.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by baralatie(m): 8:33pm On Jul 31, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


Maybe they haven’t heard of the current state of Sudan or taken the time to understand that coups become never ending. Military takes over with a leader then another ambitious military man gathers supporters because he feels he can do better then there’s another coup then another then another. The citizens wind up suffering even more and fleeing elsewhere.
🤷🤷
Reminds me of Nigeria military era
Soldier come soldier go

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Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by engrchykae(m): 8:36pm On Jul 31, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


You trust your country’s military that could not defeat Boko Haram, banditry, and their own internal corruption to lead your entire country?
you trust unscrupulous politicians to lead your country?
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by baralatie(m): 8:46pm On Jul 31, 2023
Afghan Taliban vex so try Dem begin burn musical instruments say it is devilish🤔🤔🤔
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Exjoker(m): 8:53pm On Jul 31, 2023
BOYS2MEN:
I am beginning to believe that these westerners are the reason why Africa has been backwards in terms of democracy....the type of democracy we have here in Africa , especially west Africa is DEMOCRAZY.....the military fit come change niger , u never can tell
If civilians can't give you democracy is it the military that will give you that
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Ofodirinwa: 9:00pm On Jul 31, 2023
engrchykae:
Nigeria must die for Africa to live

I agree
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by BOYS2MEN: 9:08pm On Jul 31, 2023
Oga no scatter my reasoning with diz ur statement.....read again pls or u probably keep calm, everybody no go comment...just read if u can read ...
Exjoker:
If civilians can give you democracy is it the military that will give you that
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by viodemus: 9:15pm On Jul 31, 2023
I think Nigeria has to stay out of this.

Afterall, hausas used to infuse the Niger republic security forces into the Nigerian one. They would rather do that than infuse the igbos, cross Rivers and akwa ibom.


This might also be a smokescreen, and those of us that are US allies, should remind the USA that this might be a false flag. The Nigerian leader will act like he is against the coup, but Russia, china, and Saudi Arabia, have already planned with hausa people to do this mission a long time ago. Then America will naively be supplying weapons and financing a well concocted plan; while the Russians and chinese divvy up the resources.

The fraudulent tribalist criminal cannot go against his northern masters, have anyone noticed that the hausas are not panicked about the situation. Whether the fraudulent tribalist criminal was in on this plan long ago remains to be seen. The niger republic army took away a fulani leaning administration because of the new resources they uncovered - that was why nzuzuari was in shock.


Nigeria, and especially igbos, should stay out of this one. On another note, Asari - that fight you are seeking you might get it soon, afterall, many in the islamics sw will be sacrificed in Niger republic, if their fraudulent tribalist god goes in with his lifeless threats. What can the sham forces do to a more professional force.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by ivolt: 9:16pm On Jul 31, 2023
Creeper:


Lol, sit this one out - you obviously know zilch about military.

The strength of Niger’s army isn’t what’s being discussed here - it’s the vested interest, the support the coup plotters enjoy amongst Niger citizens, and the landmass (it’s very important when invading a country).
See the guy who knows so much about military talking about landmass and coup support.
Removing coup plotters is so easy, sack them from the capital and that is their end.
The vested interest will send the coup plotters jets, artillery, and tanks?
Or they are going to rely on RPGs and AK-47?
Those guys are toast, should Nigeria move in.
Before you talk about Bokoharam, those overfed buffoons in military uniforms don't look suicidal to me.


To invade a country of Niger’s size and hostile population of 27million and successfully hold it - you’ll need at least 200k ground forces. Where will Nigeria get these forces from?
This epistle is for dumb illiterates to believe.
Niger has several ethnic groups with opposing interest and even have active rebellion
but there is a so-called hostile 27million people according to you.
What a joke.
The coup plotters can't even get 20% of their army's support should the issue really escalate.


Hypothetically, let’s say Nigeria captures the capital (which is impossible if Wagner forces can get there before Nigeria) - then what? Create a banana country where the president only controls the capital while other people control different parts of the country? And how is that going to work out for Nigeria when another Jihadist group set up shop along Nigeria and Niger borders?
Other groups including jihadist already hold sway in many parts of Niger.
You don't even know the country you are trying to analyze.
And what is with you guys obsession with Wagner?
I mean what is so special about them?
They die just like any other troops.
If you think Russia is going to sacrifice thousands of troops just to defend coup
plotters, you are even more even clueless than I think.
If Nigeria invades, it will capture the capital in a matter of days and that is the end of the coup.



These guys aren’t illiterates - they were trained by US Special Forces before they were hijacked to serve Russian interests via Wagner. It’s the same story from Mali, to Burkina Faso and Guinea.
Just because you read something on social media doesn't make it true.
Stop letting kids on the internet use your head for you.
The coup plotters hatched a copycat plan hoping to be welcomed or at least left alone.
When their projections failed, they decided to "invite" Russia in a desperate move.


Also, there isn’t that much difference between most African rebels and insurgents tbh. They both don’t fight via conventional means and I’d wager that insurgents in Africa are easier to dislodge than rebels and Algeria showed that with how it decimated AQIM. Nigeria army just doesn’t have what it takes and it has a lot to do with corruption.
What are you trying to say here?
That the coup plotters will become rebel or the invading forces are the rebels?
I am sure they are already processing their exile papers as plan B.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by DoxxAnon: 9:16pm On Jul 31, 2023
tunjilana:


A coup plotter doesnt need the vote of over 80 million Nigerians to get power, A coup plotter doesnt need to go round the country to campaign, plead, promise, massage ego and consult.

A coup plotter only needs his friends in the military and selfish foreign powers, to thrive. And you wont even be able to protest or talk about your sufferings. Guess none of you were alive during the IBB/ Abacha regime.

Democracy, even if flawed, is still the best

A coup plotter seizes power without the votes of the people… doesn’t matter if you wear a uniform or Agbada, if you come to power without the votes of the majority, if you come to power by stealing your way to power, you are no different from a coup plotter.

What you have is a Kakistocracy not a democracy
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by mignone(f): 9:24pm On Jul 31, 2023
BOYS2MEN:
Bro may heaven be kind to you and your household....you shall never lack wisdom for saying these....I have been trying to school lots slave dullards here about that but you know how some Nigerian slaves can be ....very stubborn even in their chains..... Civilian rule has caused more pain,hardship and deaths than military rule ..
Amen ooo, my brother bt na woman I be.
U can't understand ow fed up I am with fellow Nigerians' reasoning.
I don't know how unrefined/unexposed/unintelligent some ppl would av been if they hadn't any formal education. But then, it goes to reflect d greed in some& dt they wldnt do any better, if given d opportunity.
Just see d roads being constructed since d yáşšyáşš democracy, they begin to peel off like yam after a few months. Go look at Lagos/Ib expressway after 2 decades of transferring frm one contractor to d other.
Whereas, Sokoto/Badagry Expressway, Sagamu/Ore/Benin & Co are there till today. To even patch them up is difficult for d thieves.

Same way I told ppl bf elections, this ur man is my kinsman too bt some of us knw him beyond 'he built lagos', even though I always say where will you now put Jakande& Marwa if u think this man built lagos.

I may be wrong but I personally ddnt believe in another election but seccesion. We can then come bk together with agreement if each region is able to find its balance.
Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by BOYS2MEN: 9:35pm On Jul 31, 2023
Oh babe .. no vex grin, honestly the reasoning of some ppl whom I claim to share nationality with has been e serious regret.... honestly my mind nor dey una country again...it's either I find way comot or Biafra ..infact BIAFRA is what I want....I believe with Biafra ,democracy would be demonstrated...fr crying out loud ,this ppl offer so much to the country and yet they are been attacked this way....apart from say Iike my Igbo brother which is natural...yoruBAS use to be my second family....I swear but all that changed...before u judge me...I didn't vote ,so don't say because obi didn't win....I no even care whether obi win or not .....for crying out loud, Nigeria ought to have seen the benefits of democracy by now....with the way we were made to believe it......NIGERIA WAS FORCEFULLY JOINED AGAINST ITS WISH....progress far from here and that's the sad truth ..
mignone:

Amen ooo, my brother bt na woman I be.
U can't understand ow fed up I am with fellow Nigerians' reasoning.
I don't know how unrefined/unexposed/unintelligent some ppl would av been if they hadn't any formal education. But then, it goes to reflect d greed in some& dt they wldnt do any better, if given d opportunity.
Just see d roads being constructed since d yáşšyáşš democracy, they begin to peel off like yam after a few months. Go look at Lagos/Ib expressway after 2 decades of transferring frm one contractor to d other.
Whereas, Sokoto/Badagry Expressway, Sagamu/Ore/Benin & Co are there till today. To even patch them up is difficult for d thieves.

Same way I told ppl bf elections, this ur man is my kinsman too bt some of us knw him beyond 'he built lagos', even though I always say where will you now put Jakande& Marwa if u think this man built lagos.

I may be wrong but I personally ddnt believe in another election but seccesion. We can then come bk together with agreement if each region is able to find its balance.

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