lawani:


I am not saying the language spoken in the suburbs will have no effect on the capital but Benin itself is a Yoruba word meaning anger or vexation and it was Oranmiyan that gave the city that name because the indigenes vexed him. Or is Ibinu an Edo word? The real title of the Warri monarch includes Atuwatse and Olu which are Yoruba words. The Ifa you people say is non existent in Benin is the national theology of the Itsekiri with the 256 signs. Ogiame itself is a combination of Yoruba and Edo which means King of the waters Ogi is king in Edo while Omi is water in Yoruba, I wouldn't know if it is water in Edo as well. Itsekiri in all ramifications are not different from Ilaje or Owo people or even Ijebu and their monarch that came from the Benin capital was a Yoruba man in all ramifications

Dont go back and start typing like a coward. He was Edo true and true. Ame is water in Benin and all Edoid. Ogiame simply translates to mean king of riverine area. There is no combination there, it is pure Edo through and through

The son of the king that went to Itsekiri was a Bini man and he called himself Ogiame or he would have been bestowed with the title by his father.

That Benin was derived from Ibinu, is peddled by Yoruba aggressively. The Benin history think of Benin as an extract of Ubini meaning Beautiful people.

Nobody cares about the religion of the Itsekiris, the Itsekiris are not Bini people. The Royals are Binis descent

It was the language spoken in the city and in the palace! Not the suburb alone. Several migrations from Benin city to Itsekiri, to Agbor and the names of the listings of kings in Agbor, Issele Uku and several other Anioma towns shows undeniably that Benin was spoken in Benin city and in the palace.

The Oranmiyan history is not what most Binis has come to terms with, we feel it is somewhat an imposition

lawani:


You people betray shallowness when you talk about travelling as if it is everything. I have never been to Europe but know more about Europe country by country than you can know in ten life times. Self education is everything. Not travelling out of the country and I have known more about Europe than people like you maybe for 25 years. Benin people can only be outside the country in proportion to their population and their population has not grown more than their neighbors in recent times and their population in Europe will be like one twentieth of the Yoruba population there. What Benin have that other Edoid groups don't have is control over a large metropolis like Benin and Benin is very cosmopolitan coming after Lagos, Ibadan, PH and Ogbomosho in Southern Nigeria. I am not sure which is rated higher between Benin and Ogbomosho. All ethnic groups should have control over their territory and work together to attract investors there as all the competition over political posts in Nigeria is somehow unhealthy. I personally do not like it.

This stats says otherwise, by ratio, the Binis are the most travelled group in Nigeria by a mile. Maybe one-6 at most when compared to the Yoruba tribe. It is not up to twenty. It is not close . Stop showing ignorance everywhere. When compared to the Yoruba population in Europe, it would be at best 1 third in the entire European continent.

Benin is bigger than Ogbomosho, Even bigger than port harcourt according to the 2006 census

And we have become more larger over the years, it is obvious and noticeable, I am just being mild with figures, it is definitely up to 60%. Bini’s control of the political terrain in Edo state suggest so. You have not been to Edo state seemingly to understand the population dynamics and political advantage in Edo state.

You clearly ignored the political advantage due to population difference, you clearly deluded yourself just the way the Esans know the truth and would like to delude themselves, then later come to Kneel and beg for vote. We don’t force people not to vote in Edo state like they do in Lagos, when we come out to vote, there is a difference

You are ignorant, clearly as it pertains to European travels when compared to me. You are not close and can never be. A people can be conscious of a place and migrate there often and it is only normal. As this stats. If you have travelled outside the country or you be been to Benin , you would know this. If it is proportionate to our population, the revenue - international remittances coming into Nigeria should have been proportionate to our population. But a whooping 25 % came to Edo state, two times more than the one that came to Lagos state and that should tell you something.



https://www.nairaland.com/7484480/international-remittances-nigeria-state-household/12#119433439

Ologbo147:
That is not a fair take, the Binis ordinarily do not migrate out of our land, because we have a large city that is averagely compared to Any other city economically in Nigeria besides Lagos. If the Binis are leaving Bini, it certainly would be Europe, you definitely have not been to Europe.

Even in terms of study, 90 percent of Binis would not leave Uniben, AAu ekpoma, Auchi polytechnic, Benson Idahosa university and Igbinedion university all in Edo state to go study elsewhere, at a stretch it would be delta state university abraka.

Binis has grown considerably larger more than the Esan in the last seventy years, and it is obvious, there is a concentration of Bini population in Europe. We have around half a million Binis in Europe if not more

Also the power dynamics in the states suggest so, they believe we (the Binis) have the numbers to install anyone as governor and it seem so.

In politicking in the state, and because we have the majority, other regions come to the Binis to beg for vote, when it is the turn of the Binis to become governor, nothing stops it. Because of our numbers since 1999 the Binis have had two governors in twenty four. The two on a eight year term. Obaseki a Bini man would complete his second term next year.

But because of our population, some Binis are still jostling to become governor next year, which no other ethnic group can try in the state.

Out of the twenty four years, Esans had only clinched power once, and it was a rule of A year and half. A stolen mandate by Osubor. And they are serially begging for all the parties to field Esan candidates, because they know if a Bini candidates happens to emerge from any party, the Binis might aggressively vote for him.

The atmosphere in the state know Binis to be the majority, my brother we are presently above 45 %of Edo state, it might even be more notwithstanding the population of Binis outside

The population all over the world does not move at a constant, The Binis are 50-60 more numerous than Esans today.

Binis are 80% larger than the Esans today and it is not news. According to what is on the government Archive in Edo state, the Binis are 57.54 % of the population of Edo State. Our population home and abroad is over 4 million

AutomaticMotors:


This guy is sick!! Make una avoid this boy, just look at the rubbish he posted !!

You are a bastard for calling your father's age mate a boy.

AKPAMA211:
Binis are 80% larger than the Esans today and it is not news. According to what is on the government Archive in Edo state, the Binis are 57.54 % of the population of Edo State. Our population home and abroad is over 4 million

Benin city will actually be up to half of Edo population but the population is very cosmopolitan like Lagos. All sorts of people from the old Midwest and the new Edo as well as other Nigerians are there but the population is owned by Benin for revenue purposes. It does not however mean that Benin indigenes are up to 4 million.

AutomaticMotors:


This guy is sick!! Make una avoid this boy, just look at the rubbish he posted !!

The guy is mentally ill and there is one rule in life which everybody needs to follow: don't debate a mad man. To a mad man, making sense doesn't actually matter.

Stoplying:

The guy is mentally ill and there is one rule in life which everybody needs to follow: don't debate a mad man. To a mad man, making sense doesn't actually matter.

You have no identity on this faceless forum while my id is on my profile. However my solemn curse will reach you anywhere you are under the sun and I declare that you will die as a mad man and if you marry, your kids will be mad people as well. If you think it is a joke or that it won't happen to you, then you are only fooling yourself

Ologbo147:
This stats says otherwise, by ratio, the Binis are the most travelled group in Nigeria by a mile. Maybe one-6 at most when compared to the Yoruba tribe. It is not up to twenty. It is not close . Stop showing ignorance everywhere. When compared to the Yoruba population in Europe, it would be at best 1 third in the entire European continent.

Benin is bigger than Ogbomosho, Even bigger than port harcourt according to the 2006 census

And we have become more larger over the years, it is obvious and noticeable, I am just being mild with figures, it is definitely up to 60%. Bini’s control of the political terrain in Edo state suggest so. You have not been to Edo state seemingly to understand the population dynamics and political advantage in Edo state.

You clearly ignored the political advantage due to population difference, you clearly deluded yourself just the way the Esans know the truth and would like to delude themselves, then later come to Kneel and beg for vote. We don’t force people not to vote in Edo state like they do in Lagos, when we come out to vote, there is a difference

You are ignorant, clearly as it pertains to European travels when compared to me. You are not close and can never be. A people can be conscious of a place and migrate there often and it is only normal. As this stats. If you have travelled outside the country or you be been to Benin , you would know this. If it is proportionate to our population, the revenue - international remittances coming into Nigeria should have been proportionate to our population. But a whooping 25 % came to Edo state, two times more than the one that came to Lagos state and that should tell you something.



https://www.nairaland.com/7484480/international-remittances-nigeria-state-household/12#119433439

I have estimated you and you are empty headed. Calling Edo a tribe. Can you call Norwegians a tribe?. It shows your level of intelligence. I have never stepped out of Nigeria but I know the world 1000 times than you. The few places you have been to, you know nothing about. You are just an empty headed idiot. Yoruba in the world, travelling since the 15th century with the Spanish and Portuguese would be close to two hundred million in total who see themselves as Yoruba descent including white and black. The friends I have from all over the world you will never come close to having in 1000 lifetimes. Is it Edo of two million you want to be comparing with Yoruba of 200 million?. Why not say you are equal to China?.

Ologbo147:
Dont go back and start typing like a coward. He was Edo true and true. Ame is water in Benin and all Edoid. Ogiame simply translates to mean king of riverine area. There is no combination there, it is pure Edo through and through

The son of the king that went to Itsekiri was a Bini man and he called himself Ogiame or he would have been bestowed with the title by his father.

That Benin was derived from Ibinu, is peddled by Yoruba aggressively. The Benin history think of Benin as an extract of Ubini meaning Beautiful people.

Nobody cares about the religion of the Itsekiris, the Itsekiris are not Bini people. The Royals are Binis descent

It was the language spoken in the city and in the palace! Not the suburb alone. Several migrations from Benin city to Itsekiri, to Agbor and the names of the listings of kings in Agbor, Issele Uku and several other Anioma towns shows undeniably that Benin was spoken in Benin city and in the palace.

The Oranmiyan history is not what most Binis has come to terms with, we feel it is somewhat an imposition

What is Bajulaye which you call Bazulaye but which is correctly pronounced in Lagos?. Give that one too an Edo meaning like the one you gave Ibinu. I can see why Oranmiyan named the place Ibinu. You can really make people vex!. However keep your story as my own analysis is for the rest of the world and for academic purposes

lawani:


What is Bajulaye which you call Bazulaye but which is correctly pronounced in Lagos?. Give that one too an Edo meaning like the one you gave Ibinu. I can see why Oranmiyan named the place Ibinu. You can really make people vex!. However keep your story as my own analysis is for the rest of the world and for academic purposes

I am not answering this topic, I am not going back to it, I only found out you are a coward, you go and include comments when no one is watching, so I had to call you out

We call it Obazuaye to correct you and it is a Bini or Edo word which means The Oba brings life. It was borrowed by the Yorubas

Not Bazulaye as you would want the world to know.
Lawani

lawani:


I have estimated you and you are empty headed. Calling Edo a tribe. Can you call Norwegians a tribe?. It shows your level of intelligence. I have never stepped out of Nigeria but I know the world 1000 times than you. The few places you have been to, you know nothing about. You are just an empty headed idiot. Yoruba in the world, travelling since the 15th century with the Spanish and Portuguese would be close to two hundred million in total who see themselves as Yoruba descent including white and black. The friends I have from all over the world you will never come close to having in 1000 lifetimes. Is it Edo of two million you want to be comparing with Yoruba of 200 million?. Why not say you are equal to China?.

You can as well say Yorubas are 1 billion, any researchable materials online does not pit the Yoruba population above 35 million. You cannot be 3 million in the last century, as early as 1931 and be 200 million today, it is not comprehendable. I am not talking about those yoruboic sect that were taken as slaves. I am talking about actual yorubas traveling out of the country in search of greener pastures

Most yorubas would rather travel to Ghana, Ivory Coast, Togo and other west African countries. The Yorubas are not so Europe oriented, they are only more in Europe than the Binis because of their sheer population advantage than the Binis and their total population in Europe would not be more than 3x max than the Bini population in Europe

Die if you want to, cry if you want to.

The population of Binis home and abroad are well over 3 million in total population if you add the diasporan population abroad.

You are not a refined person and you are empty. It is so obvious. Not one material did you quote in this argument since I started arguing with you,not even tissue paper, but you carry fact about in your head like I can never be your mate in this life and next

Ologbo147:
You can as well say Yorubas are 1 billion, any researchable materials online does not pit the Yoruba population above 35 million. You cannot be 3 million in the last century, as early as 1931 and be 200 million today, it is not comprehendable. I am not talking about those yoruboic sect that were taken as slaves. I am talking about actual yorubas traveling out of the country in search of greener pastures

Most yorubas would rather travel to Ghana, Ivory Coast, Togo and other west African countries. The Yorubas are not so Europe oriented, they are only more in Europe than the Binis because of their sheer population advantage than the Binis and their total population in Europe would not be more than 3x max than the Bini population in Europe

Die if you want to, cry if you want to.

The population of Binis home and abroad are well over 3 million in total population if you add the diasporan population abroad.

You are not a refined person and you are empty. It is so obvious. Not one material did you quote in this argument since I started arguing with you,not even tissue paper, but you carry fact about in your head like I can never be your mate in this life and next

You don't understand. If Irish are 15 million in Europe and 50 million in US alone and they started moving in large numbers after the fall of feudalism, how much more Yoruba that has been going as slaves and freeborns since 1500s?. Therefore if there are 50 million Yorubas in West Africa, then there are 150 million in the Americas. Then if people are speaking Yoruba and practicing Yoruba culture bearing Yoruba names and having items inherited from West Africa in their possession, who am I to say they are not Yoruba? Is it the mallams in Ilorin and Iwo that are Yorubas? Or Adeboye and Oyedepo?. The real Yorubas are in the Americas. Then there is no country where they will actually do a census and Nigerian Yoruba will not be ten times Benin (not all Edo) people. Not to talk of West African or American Yorubas.

I dish out academic facts. The truth will set you free. I won't spoon feed you in this age of information but I will provide easily verifiable information that is obvious and you know this is a public forum. Your PhD supervisor will never spoonfeed you.

lawani:


Benin city will actually be up to half of Edo population but the population is very cosmopolitan like Lagos. All sorts of people from the old Midwest and the new Edo as well as other Nigerians are there but the population is owned by Benin for revenue purposes. It does not however mean that Benin indigenes are up to 4 million.

Bini was estimated to be a population of about one million people in 1987.

That is 36 years down the line, almost two generations, we have quadrupled that population since

In 1996, the Otaru asked for a separate state for Esan and Afemai people with his explanation that the Binis were big enough to stand alone both in landmass and population, in fact we would have been a state of our own if not Anenih that thwarted that plan. This is the link to the interview where he said it. Paragraph 11

https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/otaru-of-auchi-how-we-lost-out-in-the-bid-to-create-afemesan-state/

A fourth of Bini are abroad, we have close to a million Binis outside the shores, and over 3 million Binis at home. Our combined population is over 4 million

AKPAMA211:
Bini was estimated to be a population of about one million people in 1987.

That is 36 years down the line, almost two generations, we have quadrupled that population since

In 1996, the Otaru asked for a separate state for Esan and Afemai people with his explanation that the Binis were big enough to stand alone both in landmass and population, in fact we would have been a state of our own if not Anenih that thwarted that plan. This is the link to the interview where he said it. Paragraph 11

https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/otaru-of-auchi-how-we-lost-out-in-the-bid-to-create-afemesan-state/

A fourth of Bini are abroad, we have close to a million Binis outside the shores, and over 3 million Binis at home. Our combined population is over 4 million

Even more than a fourth will be abroad but Benin as a city is one of the more fortunate in the country and it has received a net immigration as a result of being a capital city. Other cities like that are Lagos, Kaduna, Abuja in the first tier. Ogbomosho is the number one city that made itself big maybe followed by Onitsha without pointed government assistance though in Anambra, Onitsha is taking some shine off Awka

lawani:


You are a bastard for calling your father's age mate a boy.

Uhundan!! May you and your future impotent generation know no peace!! Since you have made your whole existence about peddling lies about people you know nothing about!! You Vermin!!

AutomaticMotors:


Uhundan!! May you and your future impotent generation know no peace!! Since you have made your whole existence about peddling lies about people you know nothing about!! You Vermin!!

If you have common sense and were brought up well, you would have addressed the issues I raised pointedly without insulting me but how you were brought up will always rub off on how you do things

lawani:


Even more than a fourth will be abroad but Benin as a city is one of the more fortunate in the country and it has received a net immigration as a result of being a capital city. Other cities like that are Lagos, Kaduna, Abuja in the first tier. Ogbomosho is the number one city that made itself big maybe followed by Onitsha without pointed government assistance though in Anambra, Onitsha is taking some shine off Awka

It has not gotten to lagos’s level yet, it is not even close to. It is not even among the most mentioned cities in Nigeria. It does not even have close to the popularity Lagos have, the same with Abuja and maybe portharcourt

The most mentioned on every thread are usually Lagos, Abuja, Portharcourt. Bini city was also largely developed by Binis, Okada university was founded by a man, Benson Idahosa university was also founded by a Bini man which in turn opened up Ugbor which is a substantial
Part of Gra Benin city today. Lighthouse polytechnic is also opened by a Bini man, even the First private airline in Nigeria even though defunct now was also opened by a Bini man, is it several hospitals and schools, even the major tv station in the state is owned by a Bini man. The Binis contributed greatly into making our land what it is today. Even the popularity Benson Idahosa gave to it in the 80s and the 90s did a lot in making Benin city what it is today

Capital status is just twenty percent really

Ogbomosho people can do something to uplift their land

Keep in mind also that we as Binis are a one city people, as the population increases in the Bini villages, they move to the city they know which is however our prime city as Binis. If paradventure, Bini was not made a capital today, it would have arguably still be among the most populated cities in Nigeria today.

If you look at the structure of the Edoid, you would see that the Binis are a city state people, Every Bini man wants to stay where the Oba is staying even though we have villages, such that if Benin city was not a capital city, it would still be well over one million today. what is the resultant effect of this, as the population increases in the several Bini villages, there is usually an overflow to the city making it significantly larger than the other villages, the 1952 census is a classic example, as at the time, Bini city was not a capital city. while Bini city was 54 thousand in 1952, 2 of the other Bini settlements were about 5 thousand, 13 villages between 2 thousand and four thousand, 49 between 1 thousand and 2 thousand people and 571 villages less than 1 thousand.

While other Edoid groups have at most thirty settlements with large size of about 2 thousand to any where around forty thousand. Most Binis even from other communities build houses in Bini city and stay there. In fact migrations from Orhiowmon , Uhuwonde, Ovia north east, and Ovia south are up to 85 percent of the Binis in Bini city. 70 % of houses in Benin city are still Bini owned, most were built with proceeds from overseas before the advent of yahoo.

While other Edoid people would prefer to build houses in their villages, an uromi man would want to build his house in Uromi, a man from from Ughelli would want to build his house in Ughelli.

Look at the settlement pattern of the three major Edoid group in Nigeria, while one of them, the major population concentration was Benin city, which the rest of the other Bini settlements did not come close but however settled in more than four hundred villages with the major focus on Benin city because we are a centralized people

The others seem to have been centred around thier village each of the other two tribes with substantial numbers in thier villages however with no more than 30 communities and the population of the 3 tribe was still roughly the same in thier settlements.

While not underating federal government presence In Benin city. Our contributions should not be underrated in Benin city.

While the other Edoid groups have towns of over 150,000 in some sheer numbers and no major city, roughly because it has been their settlement pattern and for the fact that they are a decentralized people.

The Binis have a major city reputed to be the fourth largest in Nigeria and no other major city, it has been our trajectory and our settlement pattern

AKPAMA211:
It has not gotten to lagos’s level yet, it is not even close to. It is not even among the most mentioned cities in Nigeria. It does not even have close to the popularity Lagos have, the same with Abuja and maybe portharcourt

The most mentioned on every thread are usually Lagos, Abuja, Portharcourt. Bini city was also largely developed by Binis, Okada university was founded by a man, Benson Idahosa university was also founded by a Bini man which in turn opened up Ugbor which is a substantial
Part of Gra Benin city today. Lighthouse polytechnic is also opened by a Bini man, even the First private airline in Nigeria even though defunct now was also opened by a Bini man, is it several hospitals and schools, even the major tv station in the state is owned by a Bini man. The Binis contributed greatly into making our land what it is today. Even the popularity Benson Idahosa gave to it in the 80s and the 90s did a lot in making Benin city what it is today

Capital status is just twenty percent really

Ogbomosho people can do something to uplift their land

Keep in mind also that we as Binis are a one city people, as the population increases in the Bini villages, they move to the city they know which is however our prime city as Binis. If paradventure, Bini was not made a capital today, it would have arguably still be among the most populated cities in Nigeria today.

If you look at the structure of the Edoid, you would see that the Binis are a city state people, Every Bini man wants to stay where the Oba is staying even though we have villages, such that if Benin city was not a capital city, it would still be well over one million today. what is the resultant effect of this, as the population increases in the several Bini villages, there is usually an overflow to the city making it significantly larger than the other villages, the 1952 census is a classic example, as at the time, Bini city was not a capital city. while Bini city was 54 thousand in 1952, 2 of the other Bini settlements were about 5 thousand, 13 villages between 2 thousand and four thousand, 49 between 1 thousand and 2 thousand people and 571 villages less than 1 thousand.

While other Edoid groups have at most thirty settlements with large size of about 2 thousand to any where around forty thousand. Most Binis even from other communities build houses in Bini city and stay there. In fact migrations from Orhiowmon , Uhuwonde, Ovia north east, and Ovia south are up to 85 percent of the Binis in Bini city. 70 of houses in Benin city are still Bini owned, most were built with proceeds from overseas before the advent of yahoo.

While other Edoid people would prefer to build houses in their villages, an uromi man would want to build his house in Uromi, a man from from Ughelli would want to build his house in Ughelli.

You don't understand what I mean. In that 1952, Benin was not bigger than Ilesa the capital of traditional Ijesa land but what about today?. Benin was capital of the Midwest and there are also many institutions there because of that. What OAU is to Ife is what Uniben is to Benin. Government house, media houses, consuls of foreign nations and etc. If any city will be praised for maintaining by itself a huge population, then the first prize goes to Ogbomosho and not Benin.

lawani:


You don't understand what I mean. In that 1952, Benin was not bigger than Ilesa the capital of traditional Ijesa land but what about today?. Benin was capital of the Midwest and there are also many institutions there because of that. What OAU is to Ife is what Uniben is to Benin. Government house, media houses, consuls of foreign nations and etc. If any city will be praised for maintaining by itself a huge population, then the first prize goes to Ogbomosho and not Benin.

I added to it, go and finish reading, that is because our population was smaller then. It would have nevertheless grown considerably beyond this because we are a one city people

AKPAMA211:
I added to it, go and finish reading, that is because our population was smaller then. It would have nevertheless grown considerably beyond this because we are a one city people

Everybody have been giving birth since then too. Ilesa is surrounded by over two hundred towns and villages on the traditional Ijesa six LGs apart from those not in those LGs and I believe Benin too will be surrounded in like manner even if to a bit lesser degree. Ilesa is just Ijesa capital and not really a one city state but with a bit of government assistance that capital cañ host even five million people while still being surrounded by smaller towns. Isn't Abuja like that?. I believe none of the surrounding Benin towns have been deserted since 1952 as people there have their source of income there.

lawani:


Everybody have been giving birth since then too. Ilesa is surrounded by over two hundred towns and villages on the traditional Ijesa six LGs apart from those not in those LGs and I believe Benin too will be surrounded in like manner even if to a bit lesser degree. Ilesa is just Ijesa capital and not really a one city state but with a bit of government assistance that capital cañ host even five million people while still being surrounded by smaller towns. Isn't Abuja like that?. I believe none of the surrounding Benin towns have been deserted since 1952 as people there have their source of income there.

Everybpdy has been giving birth since then, but still it boils down to settlement pattern, the Ilesha might not be so capital city conscious. There might be other fairly large towns in Ilesha too. Local government does not tell anything, Ekiti has 16 local government, Bayelsa has eight but both are roughly the same in Size in Nigeria

The Binis in Bini province were 203 thousand as at 1952. One fourth were in the capital city

And also if you keep hundred people in two seperate communities, there is no yardstick that they will give birth the same way even if they are polygamous such that if you come back to meet them, they will be the same numbers. That is why census is conducted on a ten year basis, some might even grow fairly larger than the other, I will give you some examples if you want me to

The Binis are surrounded with six hundred communities. You can calculate the number of communities there.

Urhobos have been giving birth since then, as a result, they have about six to seven fairly large towns as a result of thier settlement pattern today. If they have been a concentrated city conscious people. Their sole city will certainly be over a million today. I just wanted you to get the point but it is okay

The same with the Esan people, they have about seven large settlement, each of least over 90 thousand people.

Why did you not type immediately? I was online for a while, it now seem like I ran away or something. I fell asleep.

Why are you making this about Ilesha and Bini? But it is okay.

And do you want any proof as it pertains to population difference greatly among several
tribes over the years?

What is the settlement pattern of Ilesha people ?

What’s was the population of Ijesha people in 1952?
Don’t believe, ask questions, you did not properly read and comprehend my previous write up

those surrounding Bini villages are unshakeably farm settlements. They feed directly from the Ground unlike the other two Edoid tribes who have about six or seven major towns


I just saw your last comments now,

AKPAMA211:
Everybpdy has been giving birth since then, but still it boils down to settlement pattern, the Ilesha might not be so capital city conscious. There might be other fairly large towns in Ilesha too. Local government does not tell anything, Ekiti has 16 local government, Bayelsa has eight but both are roughly the same in Size in Nigeria

The Binis in Bini province were 203 thousand as at 1952. One fourth were in the capital city

And also if you keep hundred people in two seperate communities, there is no yardstick that they will give birth the same way even if they are polygamous such that if you come back to meet them, they will be the same numbers. That is why census is conducted on a ten year basis, some might even grow fairly larger than the other, I will give you some examples if you want me to

The Binis are surrounded with six hundred communities. You can calculate the number of communities there.

Urhobos have been giving birth since then, as a result, they have about six to seven fairly large towns as a result of thier settlement pattern today. If they have been a concentrated city conscious people. Their sole city will certainly be over a million today. I just wanted you to get the point but it is okay

The same with the Esan people, they have about seven large settlement, each of least over 90 thousand people.

Why did you not type immediately? I was online for a while, it now seem like I ran away or something. I fell asleep.

Why are you making this about Ilesha and Bini? But it is okay.

And do you have any proof as it pertains to population difference greatly among tribes over the years?

What is the settlement pattern of Ilesha people ?

What’s was the population of Ijesha people in 1952?

I can as well use any other example like Ijebu or Egba which are traditional states too. I of course can not use the whole Yoruba to compare with Benin. That is why I use Ijesha. I agree that Urhobo are large enough to have a big city and it would have helped if one of their towns was made a capital city. They had towns larger than Abuja before Abuja became FCT. Ilesa was over 50k in the 19th century but I don't know the 1952 figure, it would be high too because Ilesa was second headquarter after Ibadan with all of Ondo and Ekiti reporting there originally. It was the second LG hq in the country or so. Settlement pattern of Ijesha is Oyo style which is capital city surrounded by smaller towns and villages. They term it the Oyo-Ijesa settlement pattern in urban studies. Back then unlike now more than seventy percent of urban centers were on Yoruba land. I don't know who give birth more but considering that education and standard of living of Benin and Ijesa are more or less at par, it will be safe to assume an equal population growth rate. However it can not be perfectly equal.

It will help every group if they have control over their land, organise and tax the industries.

lawani:


I can as well use any other example like Ijebu or Egba which are traditional states too. I of course can not use the whole Yoruba to compare with Benin. That is why I use Ijesha. I agree that Urhobo are large enough to have a big city and it would have helped if one of their towns was made a capital city. They had towns larger than Abuja before Abuja became FCT. Ilesa was over 50k in the 19th century but I don't know the 1952 figure, it would be high too because Ilesa was second headquarter after Ibadan with all of Ondo and Ekiti reporting there originally. It was the second LG hq in the country or so. Settlement pattern of Ijesha is Oyo style which is capital city surrounded by smaller towns and villages. They term it the Oyo-Ijesa settlement pattern in urban studies. Back then unlike now more than seventy percent of urban centers were on Yoruba land. I don't know who give birth more but considering that education and standard of living of Benin and Ijesa are more or less at par, it will be safe to assume an equal population growth rate. However it can not be perfectly equal.

It will help every group if they have control over their land, organise and tax the industries.

what proof do you have that Ijesha and the Benin people would be roughly the same population?

lawani:


If you have common sense and were brought up well, you would have addressed the issues I raised pointedly without insulting me but how you were brought up will always rub off on how you do things

Olu desist from your obsession with Benin/Edo except na grave dey hungry you!! Bazztardd!!

AKPAMA211:
what proof do you have that Ijesha and the Benin people would be roughly the same population?

Ijesa in total might be more. I said growth rate. Not population size.

AutomaticMotors:


Olu desist from your obsession with Benin/Edo except na grave dey hungry you!! Bazztardd!!

e nor go come now o e go first check whether person don go offline,

lawani:


Ijesa in total might be more. I said growth rate. Not population size.

might be more , fine, proof ?

AutomaticMotors:


Olu desist from your obsession with Benin/Edo except na grave dey hungry you!! Bazztardd!!

Go home and drop dead. You piece of shit.

AKPAMA211:
might be more , fine, proof ?

Benin might be more

lawani:


Benin might be more

okay

AKPAMA211:
e nor go come now o e go first check whether person don go offline,

I swear the guy na comfam bazztardd, a stinky vermin.... Na that same Olu smello that roams like a naked mad man in the culture section , be like say Dem don ban that his olu account