donjazzet:


Nope! Sounds like a liberal who wishes for a more open society that treats all human beings as equal irrespective of tribe, gender, race, religion or any barriers we as humans continue to set for ourselves!

Just a human being who wishes for a fairer and more compassionate society.

Fairness and equality in this same world we are living? Just this past world cup that Qatar had issues with lgbtzyxiofsyagjkvsxafgkaafbcagkchidquojf with community because of their long standing religious and historical believes we all saw what transpired on social media and in the west. Every human or group of humans is only after what benefits them in the present whether just or cruel so it's possible to also hide under the guise of morality.

akwesenana:

So as biggest suppliers of oil, they can suppress human rights of others and get away with it?
Omo.

Please I didn't say this. And mind you, they might not get away with it completely.

There already has been progress, albeit slowly.

Women are now allowed to drive, this was only recent, women are now allowed to go public without a man's permission, women are now allowed in stadiums.

These are social revolutions there going on slowly so it's not like, they themselves are not quietly liberalizing.

Just have money in this life. It's a crime to be poor

chrisley024:
on a side note, can humans actually be treated equally?. Or what you mean by being treated equal

just yesterday, I overheard a group of Spanish and Indian ladies on a bench wondering why the kiss events during the women world cup trophy presentations was generating much noise on social media.
there are things that, maybe 10 years ago, will not be looked at twice or settled at the back between adults involved and everyone shakes hands and be on their merry ways. these days they are like madness, to the extent the people involved will be forced to put out some form of statement.
someone thinks it's about fighting for minority rights.
don't be surprised that the idea of Greenwood and the lady opting to settle down into a traditional marriage angers a lot of these guys. it may sound ridiculous but when you listen some conversations you'd shudder.

donjazzet:


I'm sorry but you seem to mistake my elucidation of facts for me sanctioning it.

Now I'm not happy that that is the situation, that indeed because a country is richer, it is spared consequence from its terrible human rights action but I know why it is soo. I stated this because I was asked exactly this? Why spare Arabs but not Uganda. And I acknowledged the nuances at play here. In an ideal world, I would wish that the Arabs are also sanctioned for gross human rights violation but I do know that doing that plunges the global economy into turmoil creating worse problems.

It's just akin to the Nigerian situation, I hate that the APC carried out a democratic coup on Nigerians, now the military might want to step in and handle the situation but I would rather they do not because their attempts at solving it create a far worse issue. This is a stark nuance at play.

But I still stated that the principles and intentions is what counts.

No evidence for your shalaye.
Rather evidence against it.

donjazzet:


Can you please elaborate on the bolded??

And yeah, one can see that indeed the "west" of today does seem to genuinely care about fairness and justice. Sanctioning Uganda for its extremist LGBT stance proves it's resilience in fighting for rights of minorities all over the world.

West genuinely care about fairness and Justice yet (in your words) sanction a country for doing something and turning a blind eye to another country doing the same thing.
Abi them don update English Language?

What is really wrong with our coach sef always recruiting his old players 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

WhoDeyHause:

Fairness and equality in this same world we are living? Just this past world cup that Qatar had issues with lgbtzyxiofsyagjkvsxafgkaafbcagkchidquojf with community because of their long standing religious and historical believes we all saw what transpired on social media and in the west. Every human or group of humans is only after what benefits them in the present whether just or cruel so it's possible to also hide under the guise of morality .

I don't understand your post especially the last part.

Yeah, there might be some truth when you say "humans are only after what benefits them" but you can see why liberals fight to change this narrative.
People go out of their way to try and make the world a better place.
Look at vegetarians for example, because they genuinely believe that all life matters on earth, they go out of their way to never eat any living thing again or any byproduct of any living thing.

They feed on only plants and they commit themselves to regenerating those plants.
That right there is the extreme ultimate sacrifice some are willing to go through to leave the world and their environment a much better place.
So I guess this dispels your notion that humans will only do what benefits them, well some people sacrifice for the greater good. Soldiers go into battle ready to sacrifice their lives for the good of their countries. So I guess that counts too.

larride:


If Greenwood had kept his dick and hands to himself, he wont be in this situation.

You can't dictate how a victim of abuse will react in their emotional state.

100% agree.

ChristineC:
so all these years, and you still think stuff like this is based on fairness. I'm not surprised. it's all fun and aluta till it hits home.

Sorry, I'm confused by this. Can you elaborate?

Oga Donjazet, no vex abeg no just vex, you win..So come dey go abeg 😕

donjazzet:


I don't understand your post especially the last part.

Yeah, there might be some truth when you say "humans are only after what benefits them" but you can see why liberals fight to change this narrative.
People go out of their way to try and make the world a better place.
Look at vegetarians for example, because they genuinely believe that all life matters on earth, they go out of their way to never eat any living thing again or any byproduct of any living thing.

They feed on only plants and they commit themselves to regenerating those plants.
That right there is the extreme ultimate sacrifice some are willing to go through to leave the world and their environment a much better place.
So I guess this dispels your notion that humans will only do what benefits them, well some people sacrifice for the greater good. Soldiers go into battle ready to sacrifice their lives for the good of their countries. So I guess that counts too.

If that vegetarian is in charge of a food council or board don't you think they'll be some certain bias towards meat and suya activities? What of their kids, how many of them would be liberal enough to allow them not go on the same diet change as them? The soldiers are given those instructions by their unit commander who got those instructions from another higher authority, the proposed invasion of Niger republic as an example. If the glazers didn't get that huge media and pseudosocial backlash after the greenwood announcement last week he'll probably be training for manyoo. They reversed the decision cause of their image.
Every human is after what benefits them good or bad in the meantime so there's truly no fairness as we would like to this especially in this social media age where all it takes is one post to hit someone.

donjazzet:


I mean the absence of discrimination on unfair bases.
A white man not wanting to employ a black man.
A yoruba man not wanting to employ an Igbo man. An Igbo man not wanting to sell to an Hausa man.
A police recruiter not wanting to recruit women.

A church not wanting to accept a gay person into his congregation.

I'm advocating for elimination of these social barriers amongst ourselves as humans.

A fair and equitable world.

Not sure I get what you mean by "unfair bases" but I do strongly support equal opportunity, although I am against enforcing equal outcomes and am in favor of equality under the law. However, based on some of the examples you provided, I think that the private sector should not be legally obligated to offer their services to individuals they choose not to, as I think that'll be infringing on their own rights.

ChristineC:
just yesterday, I overheard a group of Spanish and Indian ladies on a bench wondering why the kiss events during the women world cup trophy presentations was generating much noise on social media.
there are things that, maybe 10 years ago, will not be looked at twice or settled at the back between adults involved and everyone shakes hands and be on their merry ways. these days they are like madness, to the extent the people involved will be forced to put out some form of statement.
someone thinks it's about fighting for minority rights.
don't be surprised that the idea of Greenwood and the lady opting to settle down into a traditional marriage angers a lot of these guys. it may should ridiculous but when you listen some conversations you'd shudder.

yeah, I agree there are those at the extreme left with their virtue signalling and getting offended at almost everything.

ChristineC:

sounds like someone from the LGBTQ community.

elrony:

You still dey NL?

Sad to see the curtains close on the golden boy, cos I'd have to be stuck with the agony of watching some one legged fraud week in, week out.

I do hope Mason finds happiness somewhere, for him and his new family, and hopefully he's become a better man.

Unlimited22:

You still dey NL?

I dey ọ starboy. Been a while tho. Trust you're doing great, our young genius.

nitrogen:


I honestly do not support the cancel culture. Unfortunately, there are careers that are just too exposed to the culture. We watch these guys every damn week. Greenwood can work in a bank with less attention. It is what it is!

The unfortunate thing is there are videos and pictures out there, innocence can’t be proven, he is guilty unless and until the case goes to court and he is cleared of all accusations.

Well the people who are after him will they not cancel the bank and urge the public to withdraw their funds from the Bank? Bank is even more exposed to public scrutiny, How long before someone spots Greenwood in a branch of Chase Bank and post it on twitter then we go again same with if he was working at Walmart

Assuming what you even say is true, That they wont bother him if he worked in a Bank but will if he is a football player, So is this beef because of how much he is likely to earn as a player vs if he worked in a Bank

This is the problem I have here, Its either you believe in the justice system or you don't and just go with jungle justice.

You sent someone to the justice system, they could not convict him then you are still not satisfied

Videos and pictures don't mean anything if you cannot go to court and prove the case otherwise we wont need to go to court and once we see video, audio or pictures we just go to town

Didn't they see video for Neymar's case? Didn't they see for Mendy's case. Did Johnny Depp not get convicted in court of public opinion too before we saw the exact truth

The only 2 people who know the whole truth are Greenwood and Heather. So what is right is for both to prove their case, when someone pulls back then what happens? We just assume Mason is guilty?

Mason is maintaining that he is innocent, Why can't his claim be put to test and we see if he's lying then throw the book at him.

If we are satisfied with video and pictures then why bother going to court, we could have just gotten tires and given him a market place lynching with a burning necklace

nitrogen:


I disagree. There is a huge difference between both. Not sure these guys would want to see him on TV or live in stadiums every weekend.

You mean those who dont want to see him in stadium or TV wont mind seeing him in front of them face to face flesh to flesh as a cashier?

ChristineC:

I said these guys don't really care about domestic abuse or nonsense, all they care about is cancel. I know a lot of these staunch fanatics first hand and I avoid them with every fibre in me.
a few who join them are not bad people, they just shape their life on social media, lack basic intelligence and believe they are doing something good.
in this short period there has been accusations against Mendy, Partey, Greenwood and Sigurdsson.
I can bet that a lot of fans don't even know of the last name on the list and there's a reason for that. guess what, his was even pedo related but the media looked right.
look at someone with a freaking cat, they pushed to cancel him anyways. it's absurd.

Actually Sigurdsson got messed up the most as the girl involved lied about her age (if I remember correctly). Also, it's not a pedophilia case technically as pedo involves pre-teens. It's an under age sexual assault case as she is not old enough to have consensual sex.

raumdeuter:


Well the people who are after him will they not cancel the bank and urge the public to withdraw their funds from the Bank? Bank is even more exposed to public scrutiny, How long before someone spots Greenwood in a branch of Chase Bank and post it on twitter then we go again same with if he was working at Walmart

Assuming what you even say is true, That they wont bother him if he worked in a Bank but will if he is a football player, So is this beef because of how much he is likely to earn as a player vs if he worked in a Bank

This is the problem I have here, Its either you believe in the justice system or you don't and just go with jungle justice.

You sent someone to the justice system, they could not convict him then you are still not satisfied

Videos and pictures don't mean anything if you cannot go to court and prove the case otherwise we wont need to go to court and once we see video, audio or pictures we just go to town

Didn't they see video for Neymar's case? Didn't they see for Mendy's case. Did Johnny Depp not get convicted in court of public opinion too before we saw the exact truth

The only 2 people who know the whole truth are Grenwood and Heather. So what is right is for both to prove their case, when someone pulls back then what happens? We just assume Mason is guilty?

Mason is maintaining that he is innocent, Why can't his claim be put to test and we see if he's lying then throw the book at him.

If we are satisfied with video and pictures then why bother going to court afterall, we could have just gotten tires and given him a market place lynching

May God bless you. Cancel culture people just love to destroy people especially those with high profile and earnings. To be frank, I knew something was not right with Greenwood when he posted a weird video of him and the same girl kissing when he was 17 mumbling something about "You want daddy's d*ck".

ChristineC:
so all these years, and you still think stuff like this is based on fairness. I'm not surprised. it's all fun and aluta till it hits home.

You remember one Doctor on twitter in UK accused of rappe. I think Dr Olufunmilayo. I will like to hear from him nowadays any of his opinion on whether women can lie about rape

olabode89:


Actually Sigurdsson got messed up the most as the girl involved lied about her age (if I remember correctly). Also, it's not a pedophilia case technically as pedo involves pre-teens. It's an under age sexual assault case as she is not old enough to have consensual sex.

Guess what happened to the Siggurdson accuser? Nothing, Guess what happened to Siggurdson? Career and image destroyed for life

Shebi we all heard when he was accused and publicly shamed, How many people went back to know he was acquitted?

Now is Siggurdson not someones child, son, brother, uncle or whatever?

chrisley024:
Not sure I get what you mean by "unfair bases" but I do strongly support equal opportunity, although I am against enforcing equal outcomes and am in favor of equality under the law. However, based on some of the examples you provided, I think that the private sector should not be legally obligated to offer their services to individuals they choose not to, as I think that'll be infringing on their own rights.

This statement has plagued the American supreme court for ages.

Are you aware that this statement you just made was the basis for racial segregation in the United States and then Apartheid in South Africa which went on for many years?

That statement is very dangerous, that private businesses should not be legally obligated to offer their services to who they wish not to. You are infact sanctioning discrimination.

White men who owned hotels will refuse to offer services to black people because "IT WAS THEIR INDIVIDUAL RIGHT".
White men who owned cinemas or offered one service or the other would blatantly refuse to do so for black people.
Private Schools were segregated between racial lines because white owners felt it was their right to make that decision.

Since it's their business, they have the right to attend to who they soo wish to, not until anti-discriminiation laws enshrined under civil rights were enacted..

In cases where discrimination is blatant, the employer can be punished for discriminating another human being.

So I differ, laws should constantly be updated to reflect the challenges of the time. For instance I think Nigeria needs an anti-tribal discrimination law.
Recently there seems to be a rise in tribal hate speech with some calling other tribes cannibals on the internet and then some people of different tribes acting out these differences in public like we saw during elections. If left unchecked, nigeria could see itself in a much troublesome society ahead.

Arsenal are well coached wow!
Abeg make Ten hag give us something similar.

CrystalTiger:
Oga Donjazet, no vex abeg no just vex, you win..So come dey go abeg 😕

I'm not making an argument to win, I'm trying to influence the hardline stance of some here who think it's okay to be full of hate and hardlined against people different from them and then the others who seem to blatantly support the sexual molestation and rape of a woman and defend the criminal. These are not things that should be acceptable in the modern world.

I'm truly glad with the step Manchester united has taken on this. I think they made a powerful statement with this.

Benjamin Pavard don go Inter.

Useless club.

raumdeuter:


Guess what happened to the Siggurdson accuser? Nothing, Guess what happened to Siggurdson? Career and image destroyed for life

Shebi we all heard when he was accused and publicly shamed, How many people went back to know he was acquitted?

Now is Siggurdson not someones child, son, brother, uncle or whatever?

This is my problem with the whole scorched earth method utilized in cases like this. Wealthy men should just jejely pay for sex from discrete professionals and signed NDAs. If Greenwood jejely drop £2k to 5K for Russian or Polish olosho w for nor dey this mess.

raumdeuter:


Well the people who are after him will they not cancel the bank and urge the public to withdraw their funds from the Bank? Bank is even more exposed to public scrutiny, How long before someone spots Greenwood in a branch of Chase Bank and post it on twitter then we go again same with if he was working at Walmart

Assuming what you even say is true, That they wont bother him if he worked in a Bank but will if he is a football player, So is this beef because of how much he is likely to earn as a player vs if he worked in a Bank

This is the problem I have here, Its either you believe in the justice system or you don't and just go with jungle justice.

You sent someone to the justice system, they could not convict him then you are still not satisfied

Videos and pictures don't mean anything if you cannot go to court and prove the case otherwise we wont need to go to court and once we see video, audio or pictures we just go to town

Didn't they see video for Neymar's case? Didn't they see for Mendy's case. Did Johnny Depp not get convicted in court of public opinion too before we saw the exact truth

The only 2 people who know the whole truth are Grenwood and Heather. So what is right is for both to prove their case, when someone pulls back then what happens? We just assume Mason is guilty?

Mason is maintaining that he is innocent, Why can't his claim be put to test and we see if he's lying then throw the book at him.

If we are satisfied with video and pictures then why bother going to court afterall, we could have just gotten tires and given him a market place lynching with a burning necklace

I agree that these people are unreasonable, but we all should agree that the noise levels will be different (re: Green continuing with football vs going to a bank or somewhere else).

I believe in the justice system. The issue is the lady has decided to not proceed with the case. That’s the main issue. I would like to see the outcome and the club probably would have allowed Greenwood back if he is declared innocent. Until then, the public believes he is guilty because of the videos and stuff.

Again, I am not supporting the ‘woke’ culture people. Unfortunately, God forbid, if one enters their net, you would need to get the courts to declare you innocent. It’s a crazy world these days, we all should be very careful.

elrony:
Sad to see the curtains close on the golden boy, cos I'd have to be stuck with the agony of watching some one legged fraud week in, week out.

I do hope Mason finds happiness somewhere, for him and his new family, and hopefully he's become a better man.

elrunning

Panther7:
Arsenal are well coached wow!
Abeg make Ten hag give us something similar.

Ten hag is a bald fraud. The earlier you accept this, the better it will be for you my guy. Arsenal have been playing the same way for over 2 years, improving their personnel. Ten hag continues his weird infatuation with players he is connected with, same shiit that failed at Ajax and Utrecht.