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afrodoc2:
The difference is that Arteta had other proper football people that were advising him on how to build the team. ETH has nobody to do that which is why most of his acquisitions have been suspect. He brought it upon himself though.

It's arrogance.

If we still had Ralf Rangnick ar the club, our recruitment strategy would be way better than it is now.

Maybe that public statement RR made about needing to have a Convo with the incoming manager put him off. And it was RR that was advocating strongly for him over other candidates o.

Jodera:
I just feel you people need a good technical director to support ETH sha cos him go still make mistakes.
Arteta at first was the one doing point and kill for players and he was landing Willian and Luiz for us until Edu was appointed and they have to go back to drawing board while clearing their earlier mistakes (Willian and Luiz)

I feel ETH might tow same part if he doesn't get a helping hand no matter the amount spent

I really hope and pray this happens. Cos he's demanding for players and the club is acting incapable of landing targets.

afrodoc2:
The difference is that Arteta had other proper football people that were advising him on how to build the team. ETH has nobody to do that which is why most of his acquisitions have been suspect. He brought it upon himself though.

E dey very very difficult for a good coach to build the team without proper footballing people around him and advising him.

Even Guardiola had Txiki on ground and I think Soriano too before he was appointed to take Man city to this height.

Arsenal's downfall under Wenger started when Dein left and he had autonomous power. We went from steel to sissies at such a short span

Jodera:
I think Arteta requested for such power too before taking the Job (judging from the way he was ruthless with the players while having backing from the board) but along the line he has to be sat down to see reasons why he needs help.

Not as if the technical director will have the final say (like the way Chelsea was doing) but both of them will work hand in hand in harmony to get things done just like how Edu/ Arteta and Edwards/Klopp was doing.

If it happens like that, I don't think Man u would have shelled out 60m to buy old man casemiro when you can buy good young Dm with same amount across Europe. And I don't think ETH will be so stubborn if he feels he'll be working alongside such technical director

Whatever happens, ETH has this season to make a statement. His friends are becoming smaller

Leyqute:
I really hope and pray this happens. Cos he's demanding for players and the club is acting incapable of landing targets.

Actually, I hope it doesn't happen

eph12:
Whatever happens, ETH has this season to make a statement. His friends are becoming smaller

True tho...

Jodera:
Ramsdale, Tomi, White, Odegaard, Tavarez, Lokonga

Those 5 out of 6 where starters with the exception of Lokonga who was playing at first due to Partey being injured. Tavarez kept our Tierney for most part till December. So that's half of Outfield players totally changed.

I don't want to talk about the other ones that were bought/promoted by 2020/2021 which started the surgery

How many players did you think we brought in last season?
So we did open heart surgery last season na.

Leyqute:
You should also consider the player recruitment department and the strategy of those teams.

United are used to buying stop gaps or ageing players for huge amounts of money. Examples yapa for ground. And when they're not that, they're not the right fit.

Arsenal is filled with talented youngsters who are geling together to form a formidable team. Martinelli, Saka, White, Saliba, etc are decent players who fit the profiles the manager is looking for.

Newcastle bought Isak and Bruno Guimaraesh at the beginning of last season. They were players who are either in their prime or approaching it. They added another promising young winger to that squad in January. This season, they doubled down and improved in that same direction.

United needs a better transfer strategy and ideology. We have to move on from an 'at all at all na im bad pass' mentality to identifying youngsters with the right profile and going for them.

Let's not start about player recruitment because all the players we have signed were and are recommended by Ten Hag. If Ten Hag decides to buy players that he can't utilize then it is solely on him and he should take the fall if things go south.

odizeey:
How many players did you think we brought in last season?
So we did open heart surgery last season na.

Just only 3 were starters na if I'm not mistaken.

Licha, Casemiro and Antony or am I missing anyone


Modified: I just remembered Eriksen

Jodera:
Just only 3 were starters na if I'm not mistaken.

Licha, Casemiro and Antony or am I missing anyone


Modified: I just remembered Eriksen

Weghourst.

So we had 5 starters. You had five starters.

Our own is not open heart but your own is open heart.

Jokerman:
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Has quite a lot of faith in ManUtd if this is true. Deadline day signing maybe

odizeey:
Weghourst.

So we had 5 starters. You had five starters.

Our own is not open heart but your own is open heart.

Werghost is a loan na abi was he signed. You for kukuma call Sabitzer
Moreover, in two transfer windows, most of Ole starters are still starting. Compared to ours, as at 2021, the only Emery/Wenger starter was just Auba, Tierney and Xhaka(Tierney been only Emery). I think that's what I call open heart surgery

But the main issue is that you guys needs a good Dof. Imagine getting Casemiro and Eriksen and a year later, you're still looking to replace those two. And then when you finally replace Eriksen it's with Mount

Jodera:
Werghost is a loan na abi was he signed. You for kukuma call Sabitzer
Moreover, in two transfer windows, most of Ole starters are still starting. Compared to ours, as at 2021, the only Emery/Wenger starter was just Auba, Tierney and Xhaka(Tierney been only Emery). I think that's what I call open heart surgery

But the main issue is that you guys needs a good Dof. Imagine getting Casemiro and Eriksen and a year later, you're still looking to replace those two. And then when you finally replace Eriksen it's with Mount

He said he wants complete control o.

If they got another person to take charge now them go say them no give am control.

patrickmuf:
I just want a coach that will get our players running like City, Liverpool, Brighton and other players of top teams. Our players don't press as much and cover less distance overall.

The reason for this is the same reason United can’t conclude transfers early, cut out their most lethal attacker, Maguire refusing to leave and many other negative things at the club.

Simply put, United is not a strong-willed club.

Clubs like R.Madrid and Bayern won’t tolerate what United has tolerated.

odizeey:
He said he wants complete control o.

If they got another person to take charge now them go say them no give am control.

Him fit still get complete control but this time it'll be alongside the Dof.

Klopp/Edwards did it perfectly before Edward left

Arteta/Edu are doing it presently


Maybe Ten Haag wouldn't have been comfortable with RR which isn't bad, but him go get correct person wey him go dey comfortable with. It's up to Man u to sign that person. I don't think Ten Haag will be that stubborn to that extent

patrickmuf:
Let's not start about player recruitment because all the players we have signed were and are recommended by Ten Hag. If Ten Hag decides to buy players that he can't utilize then it is solely on him and he should take the fall if things go south.

100% agree.

Jodera:
Him fit still get complete control but this time it'll be alongside the Dof.

Klopp/Edwards did it perfectly before Edward left

Arteta/Edu are doing it presently


Maybe Ten Haag wouldn't have been comfortable with RR which isn't bad, but him go get correct person wey him go dey comfortable with. It's up to Man u to sign that person. I don't think Ten Haag will be that stubborn to that extent

They have a director of football.

Ten Hag's condition was freedom with transfers and player management

Did Klopp and Arteta request that?

ChristoBam:
If Ralf Rangnick was here, we wouldn't have gone after bums like Antony.

Some of you here mocked the total overhaul of the squad RR mentioned after we got a few wins under ETH.

Why all the complaints now?

Was it not Ten Hag that chased Rangnick out? United have signed eight ( 8 ) Ten Hag players so far ( 10 if we add Weighost and Sabitzer loan spell). Some of whom are currently playing rubbish, how many more of his players do we need to sign to get us playing his beautiful football?

nitrogen:
See the 8 signings below. You can easily get more than a spine.

1 GK, 2 defenders, 1 DM, 2 AMs, 2 FWs (a winger and a striker), they are all starters ffs except maybe Malacia. Question is how come it’s difficult for ETH to implement his style? Let see it in the first half, and then he can decide to switch things up in the second half after making substitutions.

I don’t understand why someone is defending this guy. Does not make sense.

He got his signings wrong. How many of these his new signings played in a possession based footie in their previous clubs.

Most of the present players were used to Counter attack Footie.
For that our teams his players from Ajax and Sancho had played a possession footie before. The rest have counter attacking brain in them.

But Patrickmuf, you shouldn’t assume an all or nothing attitude.

Let’s look at the fundamental issue and find solutions to it.

We need a good coach and a good recruitment strategy for success. We might not get all of this in one person like we did with SAF.

Sacking ETH is not the solution, neither is pushing Rangnjck out of the club.

If we sack ETH, we might not get a good coach to replace him. And even if we do get a good coach, there's a good chance he wont be a good recruiter. Good coaxhes these days dont know how to identify and recruit talent. They need someone else to do that for them.

we need both a competent dof and a good coach.

And the merry-go-round continues.

odizeey:
They have a director of football.

Ten Hag's condition was freedom with transfers and player management

Did Klopp and Arteta request that?

Yes, Arteta did make such request. It was after his early failings with transfer like Willian and Luiz that arsenal have to review it and bring in Edu to help him. And both of them have major say while working hand in hand harmoniously.

For some reasons, I can't send pictures here else I for bring receipts

ChristineC:
there's no need to be upset. this is self loathe on Olympus levels.
nobody will offer permanent residency for bow and scrapes

Omo

Jodera:
I just feel you people need a good technical director to support ETH sha cos him go still make mistakes.
Arteta at first was the one doing point and kill for players and he was landing Willian and Luiz for us until Edu was appointed and they have to go back to drawing board while clearing their earlier mistakes (Willian and Luiz)

I feel ETH might tow same part if he doesn't get a helping hand no matter the amount spent

I don't think Ten Hag is ready to work with a DoF. He forced Rangnick out because he wanted full control, appointing a DoF now might lead to clash of interest unless their are changes in contract terms...

odizeey:
Abeg stop lying.

You are a lair. Which overhaul?

Arsenal did overhaul na
The players emery and wengay left for arteta only holding is left

odizeey:
Changing players over the years is now termed as overhaul?

The kind of overhaul you are talking about is an instant replacement of all players in a window or two at most.

Even pep no do am.

No not possible you can't change an entire squad at once
Even Chelsea went through about 3 transfer windows

TrebleChamp:
I don't think Ten Hag is ready to work with a DoF. He forced Rangnick out because he wanted full control, appointing a DoF now might lead to clash of interest unless their are changes in contract terms...

The board allowed him to force Rangnick out. They gave him power that he didn't have at Ajax. How can you be moving from a smaller club to a bigger club and then be automatically given extra powers?

I remember many people here were cheering his decision because most fans here are reactionary and emotional. If people used logic, it would be obvious that the problems at Manchester United are structural and just buying expensive players alone or just appointing a competent manager alone can't solve them. Look at the way Potter that was coaching Brighton to beautiful football went to the chaotic structure at Chelsea and looked worse than Ole. If a club without proper structure appoints De Zerbi as manager, they might be in for a rude awakening. as well.

Jodera:
Yes, Arteta did make such request. It was after his early failings with transfer like Willian and Luiz that arsenal have to review it and bring in Edu to help him. And both of them have major say while working hand in hand harmoniously.

For some reasons, I can't send pictures here else I for bring receipts

Send link

odizeey:
They have a director of football.

Ten Hag's condition was freedom with transfers and player management

Did Klopp and Arteta request that?

Why Man U go even accept that yeye clause

sod09:
Arsenal did overhaul na
The players emery and wengay left for arteta only holding is left

Changed their players overtime which most teams do, even united.

sod09:
No not possible you can't change an entire squad at once
Even Chelsea went through about 3 transfer windows

Ragnick says one year is enough.

melodyogonna:
Why Man U go even accept that yeye clause

Maybe it's the female team that told them to accept it.