ejimatic:
. INEC however did not release assumed results.Neither did LP nor PDP present another results before the AC. Is handwriting not on the wall already?
Apart from Obi ,any Igbo man who contests for Aso Rock will be denied entry by the North!
It is a bitter truth!

I know why Obi didn’t give the court figures… Because it would have been problematic and introduce a lot ambiguities and technicalities to his case.

Giving the court a figure means he would have calculated for the whole of the 18 candidates who contested the election, failure of which it would be an avenue to attack his case.

Not giving the court a figure was a smart move.

What’s important is that they were able to prove that the number of votes entrapped in the blurred 18,000 polling units is enough to overturn Tinubu’s winning margin.

Penguin2:

I know why Obi didn’t give the court figures… Because it would have been problematic and introduce a lot ambiguities and technicalities to his case.

Giving the court a figure means he would have calculated for the whole of the 18 candidates who contested the election, failure of which it would be an avenue to attack his case.

Not giving the court a figure was a smart move.

What’s important is that they were able to prove that the number of votes entrapped in the blurred 18,000 polling units is enough to overturn Tinubu’s winning margin.

A rerun in which he would still lose? Lol

Penguin2:

What’s important is that they were able to prove that the number of votes entrapped in the blurred 18,000 polling units is enough to overturn Tinubu’s winning margin.

Blurred results won't matter because INEC has the paper based results which are not blurred and which Peter Obi (sensibly) refused to pay for in order to bring to court knowing the numbers on there would not support any of his outlandish claims.

Penguin2:

And I’m interested in knowing how you arrived at that conclusion.

Or do you just wake up and draw uninformed inferences?

Growing up in school we were thought history about the Kalabaries they are from the Ijaw tribe I was never thought that they were igbos they don't speak igbo they don't bear similar names. The language is never the same as well as many other tribes in Rivers. Kalahari is no igbo weather you agree or not . I may not be as educated as Pa Edwin Clerk but in this case they are not igbos

Okhuadams:
Growing up in school we were thought history about the Kalabaries they are from the Ijaw tribe I was never thought that they were igbos they don't speak igbo they don't bear similar names. The language is never the same as well as many other tribes in Rivers. Kalahari is no igbo weather you agree or not . I may not be as educated as Pa Edwin Clerk but in this case they are not igbos

E.K. Clark NEVER said he was Igbo.😕

because of his name Odoh, He was ASSUMED to be one by the IGNORANT Murtala Mohammed.😕

Just as many IGNORAMUSES assumed Godwin Emefiele and Every Ifeanyi, Amaechi, Chibuzor or Azuka to be IGBO. 🙁😒

Penguin2:

I know why Obi didn’t give the court figures… Because it would have been problematic and introduce a lot ambiguities and technicalities to his case.

Giving the court a figure means he would have calculated for the whole of the 18 candidates who contested the election, failure of which it would be an avenue to attack his case.

Not giving the court a figure was a smart move.

What’s important is that they were able to prove that the number of votes entrapped in the blurred 18,000 polling units is enough to overturn Tinubu’s winning margin.

They have forgotten that the IREV results they brought are irrelevant in this case. The original EC8 results declared by INEC at the polling units are accepted in election petition
SC judgement Adeleke vrs Oyetola 2022

Okhuadams:
Growing up in school we were thought history about the Kalabaries they are from the Ijaw tribe I was never thought that they were igbos they don't speak igbo they don't bear similar names. The language is never the same as well as many other tribes in Rivers. Kalahari is no igbo weather you agree or not . I may not be as educated as Pa Edwin Clerk but in this case they are not igbos

Were you born before or after the Civil War?

I’m asking because after the war, a lot of history was deliberately rewritten to expunge Igbos from the lives and subconsciousness of a lot of their brothers.

All Igboid groups outside of Southeast was taught to deny their Igboness as the only way to find favour in eyes of the government of the day.

That’s how an Ikwerre man (a full fledged Igbo) started denying he’s Igbo just so the Federal Government won’t treat him same way they are treating Biafrans who were recently defeated in war. But it was not just the Ikwerres, Ahoada, Etche, Opobo, Kalabari, Anioma, Ika, etc, a lot of these people were taught to deny they have anything to do with Igbo just so they won’t receive the same punishment with Igbos.

So, since after the war, it became a systematic thing where history was deliberately altered to fit the new reality to make sure the children born after the war are taught their concocted history.

But men like Pa Edwin Clark were around when it was happening and they know the truth and they know the right history.

So when they talk, you listen, he has nothing to gain in deceiving you; he just didn’t wanna die with the truth.

aswani:


Blurred results won't matter because INEC has the paper based results which are not blurred and which Peter Obi (sensibly) refused to pay for in order to bring to court knowing the numbers on there would not support any of his outlandish claims.

Peter Obi submitted the INEC result sheet for all the polling units he’s disputing their result.

But what did the Electoral Act say in times of dispute? It says that IREV result will take precedence.

Now, there’s dispute because Obi doesn’t trust the figures on INEC result sheets and the only way it would have been settled (according to the provisions of the Electoral Act, 2022) would have been to compare the physical results with IREV results, but IFEV results are now blurred, 18,088 of them, what do you now compare INEC’s physical results with to settle the dispute that has arisen from the election?

garfield1:


A rerun in which he would still lose? Lol

Lol!

If a rerun is held today, Tinubu will lose scandalously and you know it. Tinubu knows it, and his men know it. Which is why I believe those who are saying that Wike has been trying to buy all 5 judges to give unanimous judgment in Tinubu’s favour to rule out any dissent that the Supreme Court may rely on to give a contrary judgment.

Like, what will Tinubu campaign with in a rerun?

That he would assemble best brains? We have seen the thieves he gathered.

That he would tackle insecurity differently? Nigerians are still getting slaughtered, 3 months into his administration.

Add that to his brutish and uncalculated removal of fuel subsidy that has made the average Nigerian a pauper.

Add the fact that INEC will not be stupid twice to have another “technical glitches” again (dem no born dem well to repeat that nonsense).

Then add the fact that there would no longer be senators and House of Rep members campaigning for votes which was what helped Tinubu garner considerable votes in the first election.

So, tell me how he would win again.

How Clark take know what was Muritala's reasons for overthrowing Gowon?
He should also tell us why Obasanjo overthrew Muritala (Forget Gen. Dimka - he was just a fall guy)

GENERAL BISALLA FACED FIRING SQUADS FOR BEING ROPED WITH DIMKA COUP.
GO ON WITH ONE NIGERIA, GOWON WOULD HAVE DIED TOO FOR THE CAUSE FOR WHICH DIMKA DIED.

YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ODB IN THE SAGA?
OBASANJO IS THE SURVIVOR OF THE EPISODE 9JA TUSSLE.

ODB IS OBASANJO, DANJUMA, BABANGIDA.

NIGERIA MILITARY IS THE SMARTEST IN THE WORLD.

Penguin2:

Lol!

If a rerun is held today, Tinubu will lose scandalously and you know it. Tinubu knows it, and his men know it. Which is why I believe those who are saying that Wike has been trying to buy all 5 judges to give unanimous judgment in Tinubu’s favour to rule out any dissent that the Supreme Court may rely on to give a contrary judgment.

Like, what will Tinubu campaign with in a rerun?

That he would assemble best brains? We have seen the thieves he gathered.

That he would tackle insecurity differently? Nigerians are still getting slaughtered, 3 months into his administration.

Add that to his brutish and uncalculated removal of fuel subsidy that has made the average Nigerian a pauper.

Add the fact that INEC will not be stupid twice to have another “technical glitches” again (dem no born dem well to repeat that nonsense).

Then add the fact that there would no longer be senators and House of Rep members campaigning for votes which was what helped Tinubu garner considerable votes in the first election.

So, tell me how he would win again.

Up till now, you don't know politics.you still don't know how Nigerians reasons.
So if tinubu want to influence judges,it is wike he will use? The increase in fuel price is a child's play compared to what Nigerians faced during the cashless policy era.that they are complaining doesn't mean they won't vote the government.moreover,there is palliatives in almost all the states.
As far as obi is involved in the rerun,the margin will be bigger.they will be more money to buy voters obviously.in SS, akpabio is now fully inchsrge of aks politics.the people of CRS are pleased with the gov.the influence of owan enoh is mighty.dansuki the only person obi has is now aligning with apc.pdp in CRS is weaker and aks gov is fighting at the courts.in rivers, low voters turnout.obi will still take Edo and delta with less turnout.
In SW,tinubu lost osun and Lagos by 10,000 votes.thar won't happen again.most yorubas who voted against tinubu regrets due to how se voted obi and how they were mocked.
In benue he will win with a bigger margin.kwara,Niger,kogi are no go areas.obi will limit himself to plateau and nasarawa.in ne,with the recent palliatives in borno,it will be bloc.tinubu will take yobe this time.he would beat obi in taraba.no change in gombe and adamawa.
In nw, kwankwaso will align with tinubu.it will be a burial for opposition.sokoto,katsina,kebbi that went with atiku narrowly will switch.it will be easier

Penguin2:

Peter Obi submitted the INEC result sheet for all the polling units he’s disputing their result.

But what did the Electoral Act say in times of dispute? It says that IREV result will take precedence.

Now, there’s dispute because Obi doesn’t trust the figures on INEC result sheets and the only way it would have been settled (according to the provisions of the Electoral Act, 2022) would have been to compare the physical results with IREV results, but IFEV results are now blurred, 18,088 of them, what do you now compare INEC’s physical results with to settle the dispute that has arisen from the election?

Please can you show me where on the electoral act that it says IREV will take precedence?

Manual results have been the "source of truth" in Nigerian elections since we started this civilian dispensation and no sensible organisation would change that (to IREV or anything else) without running them side by side for a few elections first.

Peter Obi's electoral agents would have signed them off and of course taking pictures to prove what they signed off, shout out once more to Cynthia Okeke, that is where Peter Obi could have struck gold.

He probably checked those and found nothing incriminating before deciding to go down the IREV blurred pictures route and clinging on to some false, illogical hope.

Penguin2:

Were you born before or after the Civil War?

I’m asking because after the war, a lot of history was deliberately rewritten to expunge Igbos from the lives and subconsciousness of a lot of their brothers.

All Igboid groups outside of Southeast was taught to deny their Igboness as the only way to find favour in eyes of the government of the day.

That’s how an Ikwerre man (a full fledged Igbo) started denying he’s Igbo just so the Federal Government won’t treat him same way they are treating Biafrans who were recently defeated in war. But it was not just the Ikwerres, Ahoada, Etche, Opobo, Kalabari, Anioma, Ika, etc, a lot of these people were taught to deny they have anything to do with Igbo just so they won’t receive the same punishment with Igbos.

So, since after the war, it became a systematic thing where history was deliberately altered to fit the new reality to make sure the children born after the war are taught their concocted history.

But men like Pa Edwin Clark were around when it was happening and they know the truth and they know the right history.

So when they talk, you listen, he has nothing to gain in deceiving you; he just didn’t wanna die with the truth.

Hmm for the ikwerris and others that has, not too similar language to the igbos, I might say migration. But the bitter truth is, that they were the ones chased out of igbo land due to the OSU saga in those days, . Some even return as teachers to igbo land cos they got educated first. The Okrikas in Rivers chase them when they came b4 they settled were they are now.they have similar names but all the language is even a bit differ . For the rest u mentioned they are also have their different language they don't here thereselves on like the igbos who have a general language. But the Kalaharis, Ogonis and others are Ijaws I still maintain my belief they are not igbos even the Ikwerri man will not agree

Cooly100:


So Tinubu and Buhari ignoring federal character in appointment is only capable of uniting Nigeria?

...people like you are the reason History was quickly removed from school system.

None of those men you mentioned is near to being good, they are evils as well and i am not their apologist but if you will be true to yourself, you will see that the old man utrances are always threat to the nation's unity.

And yes i will always support removal of adulterated history from school curriculum.

jayAjoku:
see how you have come out to disgrace your village people with your foolishness, and Naivety It’s a shame I’m sure in your village Buhari is a good man too infact I’m sure with the level of stupidity you have showcased you believe Obama, George bush and tony Blair are very very good men.

How I wish this your high level and extreme hatred can generate just a little energy enough to power your village you just might be able to receive some light to come out of your eerie dark and negative emotional incarceration.

Trust me your hatred for Gowon will not remove a single strand of hair from him, unfortunately only you and your likes (in your region not all o) out of the entire world believe the nonsense theories you are peddling.

Fortunately for me your insults will also not remove a single strand of hair from me, but you see ehn these your insults are actually multiplying your stress hormones which will have adverse effects on your vital organs leading to what I don't wish for you.

Drop the hate and let love lead.

Peace

Okhuadams:
Hmm for the ikwerris and others that has, not too similar language to the igbos, I might say migration. But the bitter truth is, that they were the ones chased out of igbo land due to the OSU saga in those days, . Some even return as teachers to igbo land cos they got educated first. The Okrikas in Rivers chase them when they came b4 they settled were they are now.they have similar names but all the language is even a bit differ . For the rest u mentioned they are also have their different language they don't here thereselves on like the igbos who have a general language. But the Kalaharis, Ogonis and others are Ijaws I still maintain my belief they are not igbos even the Ikwerri man will not agree

Ikwerres, Ahaoda, Etche, Opobo, etc, these guys are Igbos. Talking about not understanding there language is just similar to the Abakaliki and Nsukka people. If an Abakaliki person is speaking, an Anambra, Imo or an Abia person will not understand except he speaks the central Igbo.

Let me even tell you, do you know that an Anambra or Abia or Imo person would understand the Ikwerre dialect more than he would understand the Abakaliki dialect?

Would you now say that Abakaliki and Nsukka people are not Igbos because they have dialects not intelligible to the rest of Igbos?

garfield1:


Up till now, you don't know politics.you still don't know how Nigerians reasons.
So if tinubu want to influence judges,it is wike he will use? The increase in fuel price is a child's play compared to what Nigerians faced during the cashless policy era.that they are complaining doesn't mean they won't vote the government.moreover,there is palliatives in almost all the states.
As far as obi is involved in the rerun,the margin will be bigger.they will be more money to buy voters obviously.in SS, akpabio is now fully inchsrge of aks politics.the people of CRS are pleased with the gov.the influence of owan enoh is mighty.dansuki the only person obi has is now aligning with apc.pdp in CRS is weaker and aks gov is fighting at the courts.in rivers, low voters turnout.obi will still take Edo and delta with less turnout.
In SW,tinubu lost osun and Lagos by 10,000 votes.thar won't happen again.most yorubas who voted against tinubu regrets due to how se voted obi and how they were mocked.
In benue he will win with a bigger margin.kwara,Niger,kogi are no go areas.obi will limit himself to plateau and nasarawa.in ne,with the recent palliatives in borno,it will be bloc.tinubu will take yobe this time.he would beat obi in taraba.no change in gombe and adamawa.
In nw, kwankwaso will align with tinubu.it will be a burial for opposition.sokoto,katsina,kebbi that went with atiku narrowly will switch.it will be easier

You really think Nigerians are goats who cannot think, right?

Make that time reach first sha.

ejimatic:
They have forgotten that the IREV results they brought are irrelevant in this case. The original EC8 results declared by INEC at the polling units are accepted in election petition
SC judgement Adeleke vrs Oyetola 2022

Are you talking about same Osun judgment that even quoted from INEC’s Guidelines on the upload of election results and the significance of IREV?

It even went further to tell INEC that IREV was different from Election Results Portal which is like INEC’s electronic warehouse for storing votes?

Penguin2:

Ikwerres, Ahaoda, Etche, Opobo, etc, these guys are Igbos. Talking about not understanding there language is just similar to the Abakaliki and Nsukka people. If an Abakaliki person is speaking, an Anambra, Imo or an Abia person will not understand except he speaks the central Igbo.

Let me even tell you, do you know that an Anambra or Abia or Imo person would understand the Ikwerre dialect more than he would understand the Abakaliki dialect?

Would you now say that Abakaliki and Nsukka people are not Igbos because they have dialects not intelligible to the rest of Igbos?

this argument might take forever with each of us wanting to prove how right we are I must say ienjoy it

Rotji:


How I wish this your high level and extreme hatred can generate just a little energy enough to power your village you just might be able to receive some light to come out of your eerie dark and negative emotional incarceration.

Trust me your hatred for Gowon will not remove a single strand of hair from him, unfortunately only you and your likes (in your region not all o) out of the entire world believe the nonsense theories you are peddling.

Fortunately for me your insults will also not remove a single strand of hair from me, but you see ehn these your insults are actually multiplying your stress hormones which will have adverse effects on your vital organs leading to what I don't wish for you.

Drop the hate and let love lead.

Peace

😂🤣🤣😂🤣 lover of coup plotters that ruined Nigeria I hail thee 🤣😂 na una type them dey easily deceive 😂🤣

Penguin2:

Are you talking about same Osun judgment that even quoted from INEC’s Guidelines on the upload of election results and the significance of IREV?

It even went further to tell INEC that IREV was different from Election Results Portal which is like INEC’s electronic warehouse for storing votes?

The reliance on the blurred downloaded online results in bags is like fetching water in a basket.
We will soon see.

I hear

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
That was a long & vital eyewitness account. Dis wan no be say dem say.


But i wonder why he's making it public @ this point in time?

This is actually the right time for him to spill. Dem 4 kpai am since for say he talk am

Laple0541:
I don’t really blame Gen. Muritala if he truly did that. After seeing the Igbo coup and killings of the Northern and Southwest military officers and politicians in 1966, even a madman will think twice before he can appoint them as ordinary messenger not to talk of NNPC DG.

But Mr Odoh wasn't an igbo man na

Okhuadams:
this argument might take forever with each of us wanting to prove how right we are I must say ienjoy it

My intention is not to argue with you but to make you understand that you have been taught the wrong history for a long time.

So when you see old men like Pa Clark finally speaking up to correct the lies that have been propagated for so long, don’t attack them but keep an open mind to learn from them.

Don’t hold onto anything as though it was a dogma that cannot be questioned because you can never know anything for sure.

ejimatic:
The reliance on the blurred downloaded online results in bags is like fetching water in a basket.
We will soon see.

We, really, will soon see.

We will see if INEC has right to ignore the provisions of the Electoral Act and its own guidelines.

We will see if Nigeria is a banana republic where people can pick and choose which law to obey and which to disobey; and there won’t be consequences.

Penguin2:

My intention is not to argue with you but to make you understand that you have been taught the wrong history for a long time.

So when you see old men like Pa Clark finally speaking up to correct the lies that have been propagated for so long, don’t attack them but keep an open mind to learn from them.

Don’t hold onto anything as though it was a dogma that cannot be questioned because you can never know anything for sure.

OK but I still need to do more, research myself am not yet convinced

jayAjoku:
😂🤣🤣😂🤣 lover of coup plotters that ruined Nigeria I hail thee 🤣😂 na una type them dey easily deceive 😂🤣

At least it's good to see you laughing instead of riling

Nobody wants coup plotters or military rule, and for the records the man you love to hate never planned any coup

And how is our nonsense democracy any better than the military rule. Take Buhari's rule for instance, would a military ruler not have been better than his disastrous 2 terms

He is even lying

Most of these elders cut, add and paste the truth. They disjoint history.

I once heard an igboman explaining to us youths how Awolowo falsify the education statistics in Nigeria to make Yoruba be known as the most read among the tribes.

I allowed him until I got angry and let him know that we were not there like he who claimed to be there but we have followed up good history and I asked him a simple question.
Which was.
What year did we have the first university in Nigeria and where was it and what year was the first university in the east n was it having more capacity of admitting more than the one in the southwest?
Instead he asked me to go to Nsukka and see the plenty educated sound professors of Igbo decent.
No doubt about the fact that Igbos are illustrious but why also charge Awolowo of falsifying records when infact that is what you were doing.



Grandpa Edwin Clark has distorted that history and we may not be there but it can't be about MD, NNOP I don't believe it.
Another funny thing and reason why we will fimd defficult to get the correct history is that everyone of them keep saying different stories.
Watch Oputa panel and the history go tire you.
Ask Gowon and he will say another story in this subject matter.

theophorus:
History... They are all writing whatever 'lie' and claim its their 'Autobiography'.

They don't mind telling a lie to make a needless sale.

Sir, you mean Coup was planned against Gowon because He appointed someone from a particular region as GM of NNPC?

Was Agriculture not the mainstay of our Economy then? Was NNPC the main things then?

Sir, am not saying it's a lie ooo but this can never be True.