so he is not nigeria's best leader. if he no like igbo, then he was not detribalised

i don't think that's the reason, i suspect they were not happy that Gowon was there for 9 years and they wanted to taste power too. it's like mafia of dogs that want to feed. it is the same script IBB, Abacha followed after and all of them planned 1966 coup.

garfield1:


Even murtala

MamaletASO:
[b]Muhammed muritala may have his own flaws..but I think if the Igbos haven't venture into coup plotting in 1966 all this hatred in Nigeria wouldn't have existed..

As if that was not enough, they decided to wage WAR against Nigeria by calling themselves Biafra.

They thought they can conquer Nigerian..but BIAFRA failed..
Gowon was magnanimous in trying to ensure Nigeria became one again using d 3R's.

Muritala may have acted stoopidly but that's human (when he said Odoh is a Biafran).

Igbos are too greedy and lack contentment. That's why u see we Igbo girls can't just settle with a poor man.
We love money and flashy things pass out lives. Greed made us to be hated. We, igbos, can kill our brothers for money..it's not a big deal to us...

But going forward:
1. I will advice all those past rulers (because dey are not leaders) that are still alive to find a way to reveal all the hidden secrets...
2. History shld be taught in various schools in Nigeria. Let them know the level of hatred or love towards each other.
3. The report of National confab under Jonathan govt should be adopted and implemented.
4. All regions/ state should be allow to use their resources to build their region and abolish the issue of federal allocation. because u can't be robbing peter to pay Paul.. all state manage your God given resources.

5. Federal Character Commission is a scam and shld be abolished.

6. If all these can't be done..then allow each tribe or language or region to go their ways as an independent Nation/Republic.

Think of it:
Since Cyprus is a country then each state in Nigeria can be a Country on its own.[/b]

Who is "WE"
Shut it you clown😑

Nefort:

Other Tribes are succeeding as well. Yorubas are succeeding as well. So why are Yorubas not getting the same hate?

One of the things I have noticed about igbos on Nairaland is the frequent bragging. Such bragging will certainly make others hate you.

What diffrence will the hate make.we dont need your love hate us a much as you can we will keep moving.

adams123:
Why will Murtala be happy when Igbo soldiers were the ones that killed their leaders, Tafawa Balewa, AHMODU Bello etc. That was the origin of the hatred we are witnessing in today's Nigeria

Stop deceiving yourself.you hate igbos for their audacity and successes .

Penguin2:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/08/murtala-mohammed-backed-coup-against-gowon-for-appointing-igbo-man-nnpc-gm-clark/amp/

And Buhari had to overthrow Shagari/Ekwueme elected government for fear that Ekwueme would succeed Shagari as president of Nigeria.
The story of Fulani and the Igbo in Nigeria is like the story of cat and mouse, worse, since the end of the civil war.

Cheap cash from crude oil is at the centre of the story. Fulani has no other big means of income in Nigeria, except from crude oil and gas deposits in the Niger Delta region inhabited mostly by the Igbo. Minority Fulani coopted the majority Hausa to control the government of Nigeria irrespective of who is the leader of Nigeria. Through that, Fulani extracts blood from the Igbo in Nigeria.

Even if you belong to indomie generation, nothing prevents you from reading books.

You are shouting history history when you are grossly ignorant of our history.

The first Nigerian refinery was built in Port Harcourt in 1965 and you are here saying Agric was the mainstay of our economy 10yrs later.

That nobody told you that Biafra was refining Crude from the begining of the war till the end- is no excuse. Couldn't you find out for yourself?

This is functional illiteracy

theophorus:
History... They are all writing whatever 'lie' and claim its their 'Autobiography'.

They don't mind telling a lie to make a needless sale.

Sir, you mean Coup was planned against Gowon because He appointed someone from a particular region as GM of NNPC?

Was Agriculture not the mainstay of our Economy then? Was NNPC the main things then?

Sir, am not saying it's a lie ooo but this can never be True.

I don't take serious anyone who makes bold assertions without any attempt to validate them.

jayAjoku:
Gowon was not overthrown it was a well planned coup so Gowon can claim plausible deniability and remain In the realms of power while seeming like a good man. The following generals should be held responsible for the Collapse and stagnation of this country.

General Gowon
General Babangida
General Abacha
General Buhari
General Obasanjo
General TY danjuma
General Adbusalam
Colonel David Mark

these men are the part of the cabal if you think other wise you are a fool

Shagari was just beginning the 2nd term in 1983.
my friend, when you give soldiers power and money, dem want more.
those were junior officers removing a senior officer like Gowon and you think they will let Shagari stay after senior officers like Obasanjo and the others retired?

discusant:


And Buhari had to overthrow Shagari/Ekwueme elected government for fear that Ekwueme would succeed Shagari as president of Nigeria.
The story of Fulani and the Igbo in Nigeria is like the story of cat and mouse, worse, since the end of the civil war.

Cheap cash from crude oil is at the centre of the story. Fulani has no other big means of income in Nigeria, except from crude oil and gas deposits in the Niger Delta region inhabited mostly by the Igbo. Minority Fulani coopted the majority Hausa to control the government of Nigeria irrespective of who is the leader of Nigeria. Through that, Fulani extracts blood from the Igbo in Nigeria.

You may be right

But tell us "history" since you were there

Timoleon:
This is not history though. This is his opinion. Well garnished to make the book a good read too.

Audacity
Hatred
Betrayal and Backstabbing
Smh

This is quite detailed. I need to get a copy.

See that one just talking about corruption asif he sef clean🤣🤣🤣

This was also some chess game to many of these young men. Smh. Power drunk and pompous, entitled.


The fun fact is if the current generation and the next dig deep and get golden facts about what all these mendem did back in the day, they may not even hold tribalism as anything, even though they'll still be foolishness in abundance among some.

Oil money causing historical imbalance to a once loving people. Smh.

discusant:


And Buhari had to overthrow Shagari/Ekwueme elected government for fear that Ekwueme would succeed Shagari as president of Nigeria.
The story of Fulani and the Igbo in Nigeria is like the story of cat and mouse, worse, since the end of the civil war.

Cheap cash from crude oil is at the centre of the story. Fulani has no other big means of income in Nigeria, except from crude oil and gas deposits in the Niger Delta region inhabited mostly by the Igbo. Minority Fulani coopted the majority Hausa to control the government of Nigeria irrespective of who is the leader of Nigeria. Through that, Fulani extracts blood from the Igbo in Nigeria.

I wrote this same thing as part of my commentary to the topic but it was deleted.

garfield1:


Let us out party difference aside and say the truth.murtsla was Nigeria best leader bar yaradua.he had the balls to do what was needed.he made it possible for Gowon to lead nigeria.if not for seniority,he would have succeeded ironsi.

And that erases his atrocities at Asaba? After he supervised the Asaba massacre.

Or does that excuse the deep seated hatred he continued to harbour for Igbos?

Or it’s ok since his wrong doings were against Igbos - the tribe you love to hate?

Penguin2:

And that erases his atrocities at Asaba? After he supervised the Asaba massacre.

Or does that excuse the deep seated hatred he continued to harbour for Igbos?

Or it’s ok since his wrong doings were against Igbos - the tribe you love to hate?

There's no evidence of his igbophobia during his junta,he was fair and operated a sharing govt

Nefort:

Other Tribes are succeeding as well. Yorubas are succeeding as well. So why are Yorubas not getting the same hate?

One of the things I have noticed about igbos on Nairaland is the frequent bragging. Such bragging will certainly make others hate you.

Why would these "other tribes" hate the Igbos but refuse the Igbos to exit from Nigeria?
If you hate some people yet you want to share something with the people; that means you are senseless. Because no country remains with hatred for one of its major ethnic groups.
The hatred you project has made Nigeria become the poverty capital of the world: yet the haters would not subscribe to referendum on Nigeria because of proceeds from oil and gas in the SE and the SS.
Europeans don't tolerate country of many ethnic and religious groups in Europe because such countries in Europe FAILED.
But lust for oil and gas proceeds would not allow haters in Nigeria have good head to understand that Nigeria is a failed country. Continue to hate; even as you go to bed without food every night due to the inadequacies of Nigeria as a country.

dbestuncle:

Thank you for asking me questions.
1. South-South, Middle Belt elders endorse Jonathan for 2015

ByPremium Times June 17, 2013
Elders from the South-South and Middle Belt comprising North Central and North East zones on Monday endorsed President Goodluck Jonathan for the 2015 presidential election.

The elders led by two elder statesmen, Chief Edwin Clark; and former Senate President, Ameh Ebute; met behind closed doors with Mr. Jonathan at the State House in Abuja.

Mr. Clark, who addressed State House correspondents after the meeting said, members of the group under the aegis of Congress for Equality and Change, were drawn from 19 States.
Till the 2015 elections Good luck was the best for the country by Grandpa Edwin Clark

2. And on October 7, 2015 the vanguard reads

Edwin Clark backs Buhari, says Jonathan ‘too gentle’ to fight corruption
Now Buhari was on the throne, he is now with Buhari

3. Do you know that Grandpa defended and supported every action of Good luck Jonathan as a president and immediately the guy lost Grandpa was already with Supporting Buhari and calling Good luck names even by August the same year.

Are you telling such a person should be believe, pls do so at your peril.

4. Then you can't be serious to believe that only a decision of making an Igbo man the MD of whatever. Don't you think that's too simple for all the coup and it's today grandpa remembers.

Let me tell you what I know about grandpa. Everything he is skimming is to be able to enjoy certain benefits and getting close to Tinubu.

He is a business man.

What you are just doing here is what is called argument ad hominem.

So, because you feel grandpa has been inconsistent in the past, therefore whatever he says now must be disproved without you offering any proof that what he’s saying is wrong?

And what you are calling inconsistency, how inconsistent was it?

He supported Jonathan in 2013 (2 years into his administration) possibly because he believed he would deliver. How is he wrong to switch support to Buhari in 2015 if he is convinced Jonathan didn’t live up to his expectations?

Again, accusing him of trying to position himself for favour from Tinubu is you being malicious. Because if the he wanted favours from Tinubu, then he would be writing against Igbos and not in support of Igbos.

Or when did Tinubu start liking Igbos that epistles in support of Igbos would get him dolling out cash for the writer?

garfield1:


There's no evidence of his igbophobia during his junta,he was fair and operated a sharing govt

He was a disaster waiting to happen.

If he stayed any longer in power, he would have rolled out his other sinister plans.

The leopard never changes its spots.

In Nigeria, an ethnic group which lives 1000 kilometres away from the oil producing areas tells itself that it owns the crude oil by because of how the civil war ended in Nigeria, after which soldiers loyal to the group restructured Nigeria politically to assign control of apex political leadership of Nigeria to the group: the new but lopsided political structure of 20 new federal units in the old northern region largely led by the group; but a meager 17 new federal units in the 2 old southern regions.
Trillion dollars earned from the oil have not provided common electricity, pipe borne water, railways, normal telephone system, good electoral system, etc for Nigeria, because of corruption in government circle.
The group rather introduced Sharia Criminal justice system which gave birth to Islamic terrorism in Nigeria. Fighting Islamic extremists has cost a fortune to Nigeria.
When will rest of Nigeria wake up?

Penguin2:

He was a disaster waiting to happen.

If he stayed any longer in power, he would have rolled out his other sinister plans.

The leopard never changes its spots.

During his short stay,Nigeria enjoyed him actually.his hatred for igbos was due to the 1966 coup which most northerners harbour.back to the main matter,Clark is lying and being petty.murtala had always wanted to rule Nigeria just like abacha

Uyomiya:


Like your mother and father?

His father and mother are jot Igbos

garfield1:


During his short stay,Nigeria enjoyed him actually.his hatred for igbos was due to the 1966 coup which most northerners harbour.back to the main matter,Clark is lying and being petty.murtala had always wanted to rule Nigeria just like abacha

Yeah, Murtala always wanted to rule Nigeria but he was waiting for excuse to strike and he found it in the appointment of someone he regarded as Igbo.

And how dare you call Clark a liar in a history he witnessed first hand and is even naming names that you can consult to verify his claims?

Or are you disappointed that he refused to toe the path of the lies that you lots have been trying so hard to propagate?

You can imagine the misgivings that Murtala had for someone from Kalabari who he still regarded as Igbo.

But today, fulls will say Kalabari has nothing in common with Igbos while northerners see all of these guys, including Wike, as Igbos.

Learn the right history now and drop the rubbish you have carried in your head for so long instead of calling Pa Clark a liar.

Penguin2:

Yeah, Murtala always wanted to rule Nigeria but he was waiting for excuse to strike and he found it in the appointment of someone he regarded as Igbo.

And how dare you call Clark a liar in a history he witnessed first hand and is even naming names that you can consult to verify his claims?

Or are you disappointed that he refused to toe the path of the lies that you lots have been trying so hard to propagate?

You can imagine the misgivings that Murtala had for someone from Kalabari who he still regarded as Igbo.

But today, fulls will say Kalabari has nothing in common with Igbos while northerners see all of these guys, including Wike, as Igbos.

Learn the right history now and drop the rubbish you have carried in your head for so long instead of calling Pa Clark a liar.

According to most histories,murtala carried out the coup because Gowon was reluctant to handover to the civilian.he was supposed to handover in 1974 but postponed it.i will go with that rather than a jaundiced view from a senile oldie.this is the main trigger not your warped emotional reason.you need to stop seeing things from your ethnic viewpoint and start being liberal.look at Fergie,very liberal and objective.how many times do you see me carry SS matter for head? It is all about personal survival

The Igbo hate didn't start today. It preceded independence. And still persists.

Just recently, some people were attacked and stopped from voting because they 'look Igbo'.

kestolove95:
Reason why dey will never allow history in our schools

Na you no do History my colleagues did

Racoon:
Now hear it. The only thing that can unit them together to utter hatred is the Igbo man. Now have the country progressed with their conspiracies over the years? Absolutely no!

So igbos can't develop their own lands despite the Igbo governors senators and reps... Ori yin ti daru se

I thank God you got something from my first set of writeup. Which is the inconsistency.

How can you call a person you so much spoke supported in 2015 Election has the best candidate weak and lacking the political will to fight corruption the same year just after he lost the election and you were ready to jump into buhari's camp.
Don't forget the same man when celebrating Good luck said Obasanjo is the most corrupt president ever in Nigeria.
After Good luck lost na Goodluck whose tenure was the worst in terms of corruption becos the president was weak and lack political will.
Finally why is grandpa trying to divide us the more, will his speech move us forward or destroy us the more.
No doubt some northerners had issues with the easterner we all know that but can't be the reason for a coup sir.
Saying he was there doesn't validates the sincerity of the comment.

Penguin2:

What you are just doing here is what is called argument ad hominem.

So, because you feel grandpa has been inconsistent in the past, therefore whatever he says now must be disproved without you offering any proof that what he’s saying is wrong?

And what you are calling inconsistency, how inconsistent was it?

He supported Jonathan in 2013 (2 years into his administration) possibly because he believed he would deliver. How is he wrong to switch support to Buhari in 2015 if he is convinced Jonathan didn’t live up to his expectations?

Again, accusing him of trying to position himself for favour from Tinubu is you being malicious. Because if the he wanted favours from Tinubu, then he would be writing against Igbos and not in support of Igbos.

Or when did Tinubu start liking Igbos that epistles in support of Igbos would get him dolling out cash for the writer?

richie240:
Izit the same Igbos that first killed the political and military leaders of other regions while sparing their own from the hot bullets u are talking about abi?

Shey na ds lie of ''they hate Igbos" you too will pass down to ur sheedren without first telling them what the same 'hated igbos' first did to make them 'hated'.

It was done by the Niger deltan south south nzeogwu. Why bring Igbos into south south Niger delta atrocity?

I was a lot younger when my uncle told me that Gen. Gowon is a very good man.

Thank God for paying Murtala in the exact currency he deserved.

Nawaoh hate has been there for years it didn't start today.

sparko1:


You forgot to add the first coup was by an igbo man too!!!

when mutinous soldiers led by Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu and Emmanuel Ifeajuna killed 22 people[4] including the prime minister of Nigeria, many senior politicians, many senior Army officers and their wives.

Stop trying to to paint any tribe as evil, there's good and evil in every tribe.

Nzeogwu is not an Igbo man. He is Niger deltan south south

Isobug:

This one is just filled with hatred. Your reasoning is irrelevant in the scheme of things. Keep killing yourself because of ordinary comment from a fellow. He said the obvious fact, whatever you take it to be is left for you and your hateful brain

ODE.

IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO HATE US BUT NOT OKAY FOR US TO HATE YOU.

DREAM ON!

Penguin2:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/08/murtala-mohammed-backed-coup-against-gowon-for-appointing-igbo-man-nnpc-gm-clark/amp/

How does a Kalahari man becomes an igbo Oga clerk withdraw, that lie

Okhuadams:
How does a Kalahari man becomes an igbo Oga clerk withdraw, that lie

You don't seem to have fully grasped the crux of the matter

The elder statesman revealed that a very senior government official walked out of a meeting (similar to the current federal executive council meetings that PBAT usually chairs televised broadcast) in a rage of anger!

The excessive hatred and bile made him to angrily walk out of such meetings! Because he was not comfortable with a particular newly appointed executive.