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Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Karleb(m): 6:30pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Klass99: You can't blame people who do that even tho it's not the nicest things to say. When UK people are leaving, they are so quiet and secretive but once they land or are coming back, they will tell you a million reasons not to go. Which is not even a problem to me, but some, if not many of them still secretly going back. ![]() There should be a balance of information. You can't tell me you work in care job and not tell me it was this same job that sponsor your visa. You can't say you work all week including weekend and not say you actually get paid more to do the extra hour or say you are actually making money. They will never disclose their salaries but tell you they live paycheck to paycheck. ![]() Boyfriend and girlfriend no dey UK but they won't tell you they rejected their fellow VISA bro and sis with the hope of getting hooked up to a citizen, which may or may never happen. There are many instances like these and it's always UK-Nigerians. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by benzion72(m): 6:43pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
This is the land of my birth. I love Nigeria land of freedom. If there is no job create one for yourself tax free, if there is no electricity mount Solar panel and get power, if there is no water sink borehole. I just love the freedom here. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by sammyonal: 6:56pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
benzion72:And u think is normal abi? What about those that can't afford solar, make Una dey consider other people nah. |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by jedisco(m): 7:09pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Klass99: Bias differs based on our lived experiences. Ask the many more who have remained abroad what they think about returning soon It depends on what cohort you ask but for an overwhelming majority of Nigerians, migrating to the West to work legally has given them opportunities they would only have dreamt of. Take two scenarios First, the last time we had this frenzy of emigration was in the late 80's/90s. Many Nigerians who had the means to leave stayed back. Virtually all those I've met today who stayed back regret that it. In same vein, almost all who emigrated then still think they made the right choice 20yrs on. Secondly, I know two sets of retiree couples who moved few years back. They were well established, both had houses in nice areas +cars and one a driver, cook e.t.c. They both took the move to different Western nations. Of course, though they had kids abroad, they had to recommece work. On my last discussion with them, they still believe they made the right decision and main regret still remains not leaving earlier. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by jedisco(m): 7:24pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Karleb: Sometimes, its the perspective many people miss. Reason why you hear things like bills tax etc from those who've not lived abroad Or comparing rhe price of food in say Nigeria and the UK based on the sticker price of items forgetting that food is at least 10x more expensive in Nigeria and most African nations than the UK. Same way folks compare individual savings in the UK and 9ja without asking the different reasons both groups need to save. Another is castigating the mortgage system of home ownership in the west saying 'I will never borrow, I will always pay cash'. They forget that modern mortgage was an economic miracle of the 20st century just like discovery of electricity was to tech. The inability to set up a proper mortgage and pension system (just like power supply) like virtually every western nation forms a major reason why African nations remain in circumferential poverty. Take the chap talking about travelling for fun. How many Nigerians can truly afford it? The average 28yr old Brit irrespective of their job/earnings would have easily visited upward of 10 different nations for holiday. Many even take a year out just to travel. What resorts/holiday destinations do we even have in Nigeria that are functional and affordable to the public? I'm not even talking of travelling out for holiday. Even the traditional ritual of travelling back home during festivities has become unaffordable for many. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by frugal(m): 8:37pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Nbote: Come back to what? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Klass99(f): 8:52pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
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Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Ekpekus(m): 9:04pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
sukkot:Wait till he starts practicing medicine in Canada, his narrative will change. |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Ekpekus(m): 9:07pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Mindlog:I think he is yet to start practicing medicine in Canada. |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Karleb(m): 9:55pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
sammyonal: I wanted to engage that fellow but I remember say no be every fight be my fight. |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by aieromon(m): 9:58pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
jedisco: Dr Oluseun Peter Ogunnubi is a Consultant Psychiatrist. I think the point of view is his personal opinion and should be respected. https://gracecottagehospital.org.ng/?page_id=883 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZioV_iQwwE?si=W5T3JhWYuckBQkwx https://youtube.com/@mindmatterswithdrnubi/videos 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by emmaodet: 10:21pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Klass99: Class I understand your points very well. I also don't fancy Japa because I feel more relaxed and happy around my people and won't mind sacrificing a promise of a larger wealth to staying back and living moderate but then, I won't want us to overlook some advantages abroad over Nigeria. In the west, they have a robust economy where everyone fits in no matter your skill, talent and knowledge be it mechanic, barber, musician, footballer, boxer, athlete, bike rider formula 1 etc. Africa economy is too rigid, too traditional and predictable for 21st century economy. Africa population is becoming too huge for the type of economy we run. We need to open up our economy else disaster is coming. If you are not in the oil and gas sector or IT or 1 or 2 other viable sectors, you can't live a decent modern life. What kind of economy is that? Also, our economy managers aka politicians are so useless that they are not even saving for the raining days. Reason why our economy can't even absorb any external shocks like oil price slump in international market. Immediately we feel the effect in the economy. Immediately with a naira crash and so many more. Let me just stop here |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by jedisco(m): 10:30pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
aieromon: His pov is not being disrespected. There was none in my post. From the video, he emigrated as a student and is trying to get his licensing papers together. A person of his standing before travelling should have weighed the process and know the pathway by which an international medic can practice in the host nation and what to do in the intervening period. It's unclear if he did this. A fair comparison would either be: 1. Comparing his life as a student with a side-job in canada to a student doing same in Nigeria 2. Comparing his earnings/life when he starts practicing as a psychiatrist to what his peers in Nigeria enjoy. BTW, some of his points are also suspect which I didn't delve into. For example, it's not clear if he's against the productivity mandate workers have in developed nations or if he was rather referring to career fulfilment. People paid for a job should do it so we dont end up with scenarios where service users have to pay civil service staff to report to work and carry out tasks they are already being paid for 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Nbv1: 10:32pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Nbote: He is saying the truth, if you are here you will understand. I advice people never to sell anything to come here . That would have been my greatest regrets if I had sold my houses . |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Nbv1: 10:34pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Unperturbedpota: Where do you live because I am here in canada and this man is saying the truth. If you live here you will understand canada is not for everyone those who are already established in Nigeria have no reason to come to canada 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by 1Sharon(f): 11:04pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Karleb: 🤣 You said it all And citizens tend to stick to each other. Nobody wants to be taken for a fool. The entitlement and delusion. |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by 1stGenAmerican(f): 11:04pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Why would a rich person have to sell his possessions in order to move to Canada? People who are rich have the resources to move without having to sell their possessions. Was he used to getting paid salary in Nigeria for doing nothing? Because just about everywhere in the world, you actually have to work in order to get paid— I don’t understand him complaining about labor. Is he upset because in Canada, he is unable to talk to and treat patients like animals? Is it because in Canada, he is treated just like a regular person instead of a god? Is it general culture shock? Don’t know. Many of the things this man says are very suspect—I’ll leave it at that. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by 1Sharon(f): 11:13pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican: 😂😂 The work ethics in Nigeria is poor! In Nigeria, 30 minutes can spent sitting down, another 30 minutes can be spent on the phone I'm sure he's shook because in the West he actually has to do some WORK. 6 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by aieromon(m): 11:21pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by 1stGenAmerican(f): 11:23pm On Aug 30, 2023 |
1Sharon: Ooo, I understand—-he misses mediocrity. I knew 1Sharon would give it to me straight! 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by kkins25(m): 1:30am On Aug 31, 2023 |
1Sharon:I once read a novel that entailed the perils of being in the Healthcare sector.. I was thanking God i didn't do medicine.. Doctors in the west are suffering abeg😂 |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by honour7: 2:24am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Mindlog: Let him be cleared first as a medical doctor and he starts earning he will sing a new song 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by sammyonal: 5:18am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Karleb:😂😂😂😂 |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Gerrard59(m): 6:45am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Japa is good when one is young and unmarried. Japa is good when one has read the requirements and laws guiding the visa class the person uses. However, I am not a party to selling all one's properties to relocate. But if that is the person's wish, so be it. The man is probably over 40, and again, I maintain the stance that age group should remain in Nigeria. But judging by stories across the English-speaking world, the success rate for Nigerian doctors who relocated has been very high. One more thing, the belief that things should be the same in the new destination, like where you emigrated from is total bunkum! If so, Canadians would be the ones moving to Nigeria. There is a reason why the system is the way it is and the reason he moved there. Anyone who does not like it should create his own system to be better than the one in Canada. That way, you enjoy your dominant environment amidst the cultural characteristics that come with it. A Japanese or Singaporean doctor has no business in Canada for economic survival. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by 1Alex: 6:51am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Unperturbedpota:oga did you watch the video? The man clearly said if you are doing well in Nigeria, there's no point going to Canada. He had a hospital and was doing well in Nigeria before he emigrated to Canada. But from your point, you were struggling before you japa. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Gerrard59(m): 6:58am On Aug 31, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican: Probably, people like him want free money without work. That is the reason why his age group should not emigrate. They find it hard to assimilate to the new working conditions and begin to whine every now and then. I bet you, the first thing he would do after naturalisation is return to Nigeria and continue his commandering attitude. His mates are in the National Assembly. It seems many Nigerians hate a rule-based society, but want Nigeria to move forward. 1Alex: Then, he should have remained in Nigeria. Not everyone needs to emigrate. Mathematically, it is not possible. Once person nack 40, make the person siddon for Nigeria by Keeping Up With The EmiLokans 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by jedisco(m): 7:47am On Aug 31, 2023 |
aieromon: It's odd you fail to understand a basic concept. He is NOT a medic in canada. There are thousands of international doctors in the west who become drivers, carers e.t.c. They might be medics in their home country but not in the west until they become licensed. To practice medicine in any nation, you need to have a licence of their medical authority. BTW, if you call the above 'disrespect', then there are bigger issues at stake |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by jedisco(m): 7:51am On Aug 31, 2023 |
kkins25: On the contrary, being a medic in the west is one of the more assured and beneficial jobs. Yes, it rightly comes with its expectations but the reward is significant. Being a medical specialist in Canada puts you in the top earning quota of a developed nation. Something very few would actually achieve. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by jedisco(m): 8:02am On Aug 31, 2023 |
Gerrard59: Odd thing is that it's the senior folks like him that are partly responsible for the rot in the medical sector in Nigeria that has driven the young bright minds away. Now, they are also looking to emigrate and play catch-up to their younger colleagues. They instutionalised the culture of bullying, absenteeism, big manism and even sexual harassment. It automatically seems odd to work in a country where everyone is held accountable esp medics. Young Nigerian specialised medics/FPs in Canada are seeing upwards of 300,000 cad per annum with some earning in multiples of that. Already, his chorus is changing, if he gets to work as a specialist, his verse would alse change. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Doctor Regrets Japa-ing To Canada. Video Included by Gerrard59(m): 8:27am On Aug 31, 2023 |
jedisco: Why doesn't his type put their yansh siddon put for Nigeria? Why the urge to japa? They should remain in Nigeria, for crying out loud! No gun was pointed at his head to sell his properties and relocate. Young Nigerian specialised medics/FPs in Canada are seeing upwards of 300,000 cad per annum with some earning in multiples of that. Already, his chorus is changing, if he gets to work as a specialist, his verse would alse change. No one has ever lost betting against Nigeria. We have had demons here spew mendacious statements that skilled folks can't earn good money in the West. Again, anyone who wants to relocate/migrate/japa should do in-depth research before embarking on the journey. https://www.nairaland.com/7650379/points-consider-before-after-japa |
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