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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:05pm On Aug 30, 2023
This same prioritizing nonsense is the same thing Poch was doing when be was Tottenham's manager.

But that didn't stop you from calling him a trophless manager then. Endless trolling when he was linked to us cuz he ' couldn't even win the Carabao cup'. UCL final meant nothing to most of you here. As far as he didn't win the Carabao. Now you're saying what?

Agenda ti pa yin.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 9:06pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Which brings us back to the issue of funds.
Hojlund alone wasn't going to suddenly get us scoring tons of goals. We need an extra person that can score and create. Reason we got Mount. We also need another midfielder, and this is where the lack of funds come in.

We'll have to settle for a loan option/cheap deal. Want to contend with City with this?
Lol... Mount.. creator??🤣
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:07pm On Aug 30, 2023
Jokerman:
Lol... Mount.. creator??🤣
Totally ignored the scoring part.

Mount's not an elite creator. No one's calling him that. But he does his fair share. That's why we've got Bruno.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:07pm On Aug 30, 2023
Trevor012:
This was us begging bald head to rotate last season. That excuse won't fly cheesy
It’s ridiculous. ETH sticks to a winning team (starting 11) until something breaks. No rotation, nothing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:08pm On Aug 30, 2023
eph12:
City outspent us abi? That's fine dem pass us. What about those we have outspent? We should play better than them at least abi?
Agree with you 100%.

But the last time I checked, football is still a results business.

Guess who will be sacked if their team don’t make top 4. Wolves? Brighton?

And do we want to have ambitions teams like Brighton and Wolves have or do we want to become the best team in the country? Are we competing with Wolves or are we competing with Man City?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 9:08pm On Aug 30, 2023
🚨🚨🌖| NEW: #mufc would like to bring a forward on loan in the final days of the window to replace Mason Greenwood, who has been subject of multiple enquiries. [Simon Jones, Mail]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:09pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Which brings us back to the issue of funds.
Hojlund alone wasn't going to suddenly get us scoring tons of goals. We need an extra person that can score and create. Reason we got Mount. We also need another midfielder, and this is where the lack of funds come in.

We'll have to settle for a loan option/cheap deal. Want to contend with City with this?
But does it make sense to play Bruno and Mount together?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:11pm On Aug 30, 2023
nitrogen:
It’s ridiculous. ETH sticks to a winning team (starting 11) until something breaks. No rotation, nothing.
Cuz the quality massively drops outside the first 11. Rotating massively almost guarantees a loss.
But even with that, none of the decent players outside the first 11 can say they didn't get decent playing time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 9:11pm On Aug 30, 2023
eph12:
Games we didn't need to play. He is lucky Tottenham had a very slow start, and LFC and Chelsea were useless last season. He should repeat the same this season.

We had no CF? He brought in his country man Weghost
so if he repeats top 4 and a trophy, you'd recommend he gets a life contract from the board?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:12pm On Aug 30, 2023
nitrogen:
But does it make sense to play Bruno and Mount together?
Just as it didn't make sense to a lot to bring in a 5'8 CB. We'll find out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:13pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Cuz the quality massively drops outside the first 11. Rotating massively almost guarantees a loss.
But even with that, none of the decent players outside the first 11 can say they didn't get decent playing time.
Wrong! Some of the players on the bench were starters under Ole and they performed, also, he had 2-3 players he bought/worked with at Ajax. VDB, Malacia, Weg etc.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:14pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Just as it didn't make sense to a lot to bring in a 5'8 CB. We'll find out.
Tell me how you would play both players na. One DM plus Mount and Bruno? Disasterclass loading.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 9:17pm On Aug 30, 2023
See excuses. After buying Onana, Mount, Hodjlund, he's not backed. Hehehe

If he had used that money to buy important players maybe we wouldn't be talking about these trash talk.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:18pm On Aug 30, 2023
nitrogen:
Wrong! Some of the players on the bench were starters under Ole and they performed, also, he had 2-3 players he bought/worked with at Ajax. VDB, Malacia, Weg etc.
The ones like Maguire that probably fast tracked his sack? Man also fast-tracked out exit from the Europa league on one of his few appearances.

He didn't bring in VDB.
Weghorst was a loan buy cuz we couldn't get a striker. It was like getting Weghorst or nothing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:19pm On Aug 30, 2023
odizeey:
See excuses. After buying Onana, Mount, Hodjlund, he's not backed. Hehehe

If he had used that money to buy important players maybe we wouldn't be talking about these trash talk.
He's not backed enough to compete with the best team the league's ever seen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:21pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
He's not backed enough to compete with the best team the league's ever seen.
Quick question, is the current backing sufficient to make top 2, get to UCL quarter finals and win FA cup?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:22pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
He was trying to get the team it's first trophy in 5 years.
Which means nothing to agendeists now. All y'all want is a new face. Everything else is useless.
Who cares about a carabao cup? What we want is to see that we're on the right path and closer to competing on the biggest stages. We don't have to be there yet, but we want to see we're getting there. Right now we're still talking about replacing some of the players he brought in just last year. Shey he didn't spend billions to make his Ajax team a force and play the beautiful game? What has changed? Just play the beautiful football first and every other thing that he needs to finally go shoulder to shoulder with City will follow
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:22pm On Aug 30, 2023
nitrogen:
Tell me how you would play both players na. One DM plus Mount and Bruno? Disasterclass loading.
Sebi you sabi pass the ETH, McLaren and Van der gaag.

I don't like to use that phrase. But how about show a little patience to see how it'll work.

We've already seen our full backs trying to tuck into the midfield unsuccessfully. It's not something that can't be worked on. We won't suddenly start playing his style of football without experiencing some initial hiccups.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:24pm On Aug 30, 2023
eph12:
With the right coaching, we can pick at least one Bruno deputy from the academy team, since Bruno doesn't even get injured.

We have Mainoo and Mount out injured and will be back soon right? So no panic. ETH should do his job and coach the ones available till Mainoo and Mount gets back. We currently have 6 midfielders, all collecting wages, at the club. Gore didn't do badly and with the right atmosphere, he can step in pending when the injured return.
How many top teams parade fresh academy players in their starting XI?

Garnacho is our best academy player right now. And we all saw how he performed when given the chance to be a starter for consecutive game weeks.

Not everybody is ready.

Even Greenwood, on top of his tremendous talent, Ole had to ease him in for over a year.

Cameo appearances, I’m fine with that , until they’re ready. Even with the right coaching, getting academy players into the first team doesn’t happen overnight. It takes time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 9:26pm On Aug 30, 2023
odizeey:
See excuses. After buying Onana, Mount, Hodjlund, he's not backed. Hehehe

If he had used that money to buy important players maybe we wouldn't be talking about these trash talk.
I pray we are not trophyless this season. Next season you will see anoda excuse. Na like this person dey take go 5 years trophyless grin grin grin. I expect that money spend on mount to be use for a good central midfielder. That can bench eriksen and help Casemiro in that midfield position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:27pm On Aug 30, 2023
eph12:
Who cares about a carabao cup? What we want is to see that we're on the right path and closer to competing on the biggest stages. We don't have to be there yet, but we want to see we're getting there. Right now we're still talking about replacing some of the players he brought in just last year. Shey he didn't spend billions to make his Ajax team a force and play the beautiful game? What has changed? Just play the beautiful football first and every other thing that he needs to finally go shoulder to shoulder with City will follow
From what we've seen, y'all can never be patient without the results.
Imagine getting wiped at home back to back while trying to play beautiful football first. These curses on this thread will be overflowing.
An Arsenal fan came to tell you how terrible their football was for the first 2-3 years. Worst thing is they weren't even getting results with back to back 8th place finishes.

For ETH, it's all about the combination of both for now. And it's been working so far.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 9:35pm On Aug 30, 2023
nitrogen:
Quick question, is the current backing sufficient to make top 2, get to UCL quarter finals and win FA cup?
are these your expectations for the season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 9:35pm On Aug 30, 2023
I don't hate eth, have always want him to be successful. But with this current squad and what we have play so far this season. I'm not comfortable with it. We need more reinforcement in that midfield. That is the most important thing right now
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:53pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
They prioritized competitions as a result of this. Problem is that was the best we've seen of Arsenal in yearrrrrs. Might be the best we'll see of them in a while. And they ended it trophless.
At least we have carabao cup
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 9:56pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
He's not backed enough to compete with the best team the league's ever seen.
I'm not sure I have asked him to compete with City.

We should see workings.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:56pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Games we didn't need to play? Which kain talk be this.

Given we couldn't spend on a striker in January, who else could he have gotten in January?

Omo.....
Its only when it comes to Manchester United that we will hear there are no players in the market.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:57pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Which brings us back to the issue of funds.
Hojlund alone wasn't going to suddenly get us scoring tons of goals. We need an extra person that can score and create. Reason we got Mount. We also need another midfielder, and this is where the lack of funds come in.

We'll have to settle for a loan option/cheap deal. Want to contend with City with this?
You got Mount because you need to score tons of goals? Mason Mount? Go and sleep please
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 9:59pm On Aug 30, 2023
Englishisamust:
I pray we are not trophyless this season. Next season you will see anoda excuse. Na like this person dey take go 5 years trophyless grin grin grin. I expect that money spend on mount to be use for a good central midfielder. That can bench eriksen and help Casemiro in that midfield position.
Make them continue. We dey watch
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:00pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristoBam:
Imagine we sacrificed the League cup as per we dey prioritize competitions, we'd probably be trophless now.

I bet you'd feel better about that. Cuz the agenda against Ten Hag would probably be stronger.
I have told you want I want to see. I don't care about trophy less nonsense. I just want to know that with a year or two and some very clear additions to the team, we will contend with anybody. If we win a trophy today and we spend the next 4-5 years struggling, what do we gain? And its even mickey mouse cup we won, not the champions league o
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:01pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristineC:
"When" he flops and get sacked, it's alright.
we'd move on to the next manager and we point out another £400m while completing another 360.
you sound like this will be the first.
the fact is it will remain the same till we see some ambition from the board.
any manager that finds any spec of success with the structures setup by these owners should be knighted.
LvG, Jose and Ten Hag have done what they can with what they met on ground. Ole came very close occasionally, couldn't manage that extra bit.
let's see how far Ten Hag will go before getting the boot.
It's quite straightforward really.
Will 1 billion be enough ambition from the club? Within how many years should the club spend 1 billion? After how much can we begin to demand the team play like a team?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:02pm On Aug 30, 2023
Leyqute:
Agree with you 100%.

But the last time I checked, football is still a results business.

Guess who will be sacked if their team don’t make top 4. Wolves? Brighton?

And do we want to have ambitions teams like Brighton and Wolves have or do we want to become the best team in the country? Are we competing with Wolves or are we competing with Man City?
And that's why we have outspent clubs like Wolves and Brighton with a very long gap. Does this not mean we should be better?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:04pm On Aug 30, 2023
ChristineC:
so if he repeats top 4 and a trophy, you'd recommend he gets a life contract from the board?
And the team is still not playing as a team with clear pattern and have opponents thinking twice before committing players forward? We will continue to operate in the space between mediocrity and average
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