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TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by BetterNaija123: 2:29pm On Sep 08, 2023
The presidential election petition tribunal judgments went against Supreme court ruling on 25% FCT votes earlier. Finally, the outcome of the supreme court's decision will be interesting to ... Read More

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by Felimax(m): 2:50pm On Sep 08, 2023
It has nothing to do with wether lower or upper court.

It is all about an AGENDA!
The Igbos have theirs ( break this shit hole by any possible means)

The Yorubas and Hausas/Fulani has theirs ( Never in the corridors of power from an Eastern extraction - they rather die)

Non of the powerhouse of this nation is found in any part of the East or South South, even an ordinary seaport we don't deserve to own despite having the largest board in the entire nation.

You think all these things are mare coincidence? You may be a compound fool!

We are driven by AGENDAS in this country and this is the major reason this nation cannot find her bearing.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 3:23pm On Sep 08, 2023
BetterNaija123:
The presidential election petition tribunal judgments went against Supreme court ruling on 25% FCT votes earlier. Finally, the outcome of the supreme court's decision will be interesting to ... Read More
so someone that votes in abuja, his vote is more special and superior than someone that votes in suleja LGA in Niger state with is less than 1 km to Abuja territory ?

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by Bigkoko: 3:49pm On Sep 08, 2023
Asiwaju is not the type of person to toss out at the lower court, that means giving room & time to use State Organs to throw Nigeria into crisis. Give the damn judgement at the Supreme Court level, once it is made, he simply pack his bag and leave.
Na crowd go lead the new president to ASO ROCK or go force am comot there!
At that point if he make any order, he can be detained indefinitely by the New President. In-fact i believe that is the breakfast they prepare for him, as he threaten the anarchy & chaos in his submission through his lawyers!

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by Spy360(m): 4:02pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
so someone that votes in abuja, his vote is more special and superior than someone that votes in suleja LGA in Niger state with is less than 1 km to Abuja territory ?
If a candidate has 25% in Kano and another 25% in Imo, are they the same?

When the constitution says that a candidate must have the spread that's where 25% in FCT comes in. It has nothing to do with the value of the votes. It's simply a matter of spread.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 4:50pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
so someone that votes in abuja, his vote is more special and superior than someone that votes in suleja LGA in Niger state with is less than 1 km to Abuja territory ?
Law and Logic are two different things.

Why do you think we've been complaining about the loopholes and lacunas in the constitution?
At the end of the day the law is the law, no matter how illogical it seems.

Yes it doesn't make sense that Abuja's votes are more important than others,

Same way it doesn't make sense that an elected president whose election is being contested should be sworn in before the case is determined.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by ChiefJusticeFuc: 5:16pm On Sep 08, 2023
So it's this useless 25% you are all clinging to?

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by IgOga(m): 5:17pm On Sep 08, 2023
grin grin grin grin grin grin

Una still dey hold unto failure like palliative grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by IVORY2009(m): 5:17pm On Sep 08, 2023
BetterNaija123:
The presidential election petition tribunal judgments went against Supreme court ruling on 25% FCT votes earlier. Finally, the outcome of the supreme court's decision will be interesting to ... Read More


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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by PortHarcourtcit(m): 5:42pm On Sep 08, 2023
Felimax:
It has nothing to do with wether lower or upper court.

It is all about an AGENDA!
The Igbos have theirs ( break this shit hole by any possible means)

The Yorubas and Hausas/Fulani has theirs ( Never in the corridors of power from an Eastern extraction - they rather die)

Non of the powerhouse of this nation is found in any part of the East or South South, even an ordinary seaport we don't deserve to own despite having the largest board in the entire nation.

You think all these things are mare coincidence? You may be a compound fool!

We are driven by AGENDAS in this country and this is the major reason this nation cannot find her bearing.

please don't include the south south in your divisive agenda... I love Nigeria... And get this info into your skull that my Nigeria is not and can not be a shit hole as you said... 🇳🇬❤️🇳🇬

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by PortHarcourtcit(m): 5:45pm On Sep 08, 2023
Spy360:

If a candidate has 25% in Kano and another 25% in Imo, are they the same?

When the constitution says that a candidate must have the spread that's where 25% in FCT comes in. It has nothing to do with the value of the votes. It's simply a matter of spread.
you are a good citizen of Nigeria... Please don't mind those pityobi people...

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by fergie001: 5:46pm On Sep 08, 2023
This is not true.

The SC has not dealt with the 25% issue before now, this is the first time.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by PortHarcourtcit(m): 5:47pm On Sep 08, 2023
teeytimi:

Why are you guys so dumb, are you saying if a candidate wins 25% in the whole 36 state, in fact, possibly wins all the votes in the entire 36 states he should not be declared winner just because he didn't get 25% in FCT.

Doesn't that sounds stupid to you, is everyone going to reason like a dumb ass you lots are.
my dear, please save your energy these Agitators and pityobi people are like virus to Nigeria... If anything does not go there way there only option is to scatter and burn down to the ground...

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by chukel(m): 5:49pm On Sep 08, 2023
Supreme court has never ruled on 25% FCT. Can you please post the judgment here for all to see.
Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 5:50pm On Sep 08, 2023
teeytimi:

Why are you guys so dumb, are you saying if a candidate wins 25% in the whole 36 state, in fact, possibly wins all the votes in the entire 36 states he should not be declared winner just because he didn't get 25% in FCT.

Doesn't that sounds stupid to you, is everyone going to reason like a dumb ass you lots are.
See this dumbasss meathead!

Is this the first time you're hearing about the phrase "lacuna in the constitution?"

Why are you so stupid?

I wonder why your mama didn't christian you the name "Stupiid!"

That clause is obviously a flaw in the constitution but logic and law are not the same.

There are many many such constitutional subjects that don't make sense which is why there has been a long time clamour for a constitutional amendment.

That clause must be amended but until then, the law works with the constitution not whatever you think makes sense to you or does not.

Do I have to paint you a picture for this.?

Or should I write in pidgin for you to understand?

Damn, so many goats moving around in human costumes in this country.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by PortHarcourtcit(m): 5:53pm On Sep 08, 2023
Bigkoko:
Asiwaju is not the type of person to toss out at the lower court, that means giving room & time to use State Organs to throw Nigeria into crisis. Give the damn judgement at the Supreme Court level, once it is made, he simply pack his bag and leave.
Na crowd go lead the new president to ASO ROCK or go force am comot there!
At that point if he make any order, he can be detained indefinitely by the New President. In-fact i believe that is the breakfast they prepare for him, as he threaten the anarchy & chaos in his submission through his lawyers!
make una rest... From TINUBU will not win the presidential primary election to he will not win the presidential election to he will not be sworn in as president to the tribunal will throw him out and now is Supreme court... I wonder how pity obi people and Ipob miscreants breath in this my lovely nation called Nigeria... 🇳🇬❤️🇳🇬

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by teeytimi: 6:02pm On Sep 08, 2023
tesppidd:
See this dumbasss meathead!

Is this the first time you're hearing about the phrase "lacuna in the constitution?"

Why are you so stupid?

I wonder why your mama didn't christian you the name "Stupiid!"

That clause is obviously a flaw in the constitution but logic and law are not the same.

There are many many such constitutional subjects that don't make sense which is why there has been a long time clamour for a constitutional amendment.

That clause must be amended but until then, the law works with the constitution not whatever you think makes sense to you or does not.

Do I have to paint you a picture for this.?

Or should I write in pidgin for you to understand?

Damn, so many goats moving around in human costumes in this country.

Your education was a waste.

You sound so unintelligent.

Lucuna kò lucifer ni

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:04pm On Sep 08, 2023
tesppidd:
Law and Logic are two different things.

Why do you think we've been complaining about the loopholes and lacunas in the constitution?
At the end of the day the law is the law, no matter how illogical it seems.

Yes it doesn't make sense that Abuja's votes are more important than others,

Same way it doesn't make sense that an elected president whose election is being contested should be sworn in before the case is determined.
Abuja votes is not special or superior to any votes in other states, all votes are equal . So if a candidate lost in all 36 state and win in abuja he should be declared winner abi

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by teeytimi: 6:06pm On Sep 08, 2023
PortHarcourtcit:
my dear, please save your energy these Agitators and pityobi people are like virus to Nigeria... If anything does not go there way there only option is to scatter and burn down to the ground...

Seriously, it's a waste of time engaging them.

They are the dumbest set of people

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 6:07pm On Sep 08, 2023
teeytimi:


Your education was a waste.

You sound so unintelligent.

Lucuna kò lucifer ni
Sod off

I do not know how to type in pidgin, I could have put an end to your misery.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:10pm On Sep 08, 2023
Spy360:

If a candidate has 25% in Kano and another 25% in Imo, are they the same?

When the constitution says that a candidate must have the spread that's where 25% in FCT comes in. It has nothing to do with the value of the votes. It's simply a matter of spread.
so if a candidate lost in all 36 state and win Abuja only he should be declared winner? Simple yes or no question

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 6:14pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
Abuja votes is not special or superior to any votes in other states, all votes are equal . So if a candidate lost in all 36 state and win in abuja he should be declared winner abi
Agreed.
Abuja votes are not superior to other states.


So also let's assume a President scores 90 percent in all the 36 States and gets 1 percent in Abuja,
Is it fair for such President to be the "governor" of Abuja?
Definitely not fair, and doesn't make sense.


So what we need is a constitutional amendment on that issue, not some smart asses falling over themselves to see who's smarter.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:16pm On Sep 08, 2023
tesppidd:
Agreed.
Abuja votes are not superior to other states.


So also let's assume a President scores 90 percent in all the 36 States and gets 1 percent in Abuja,
Is it fair for such President to be the "governor" of Abuja?
Definitely not fair, and doesn't make sense.


So what we need is a constitutional amendment on that issue, not some smart asses falling over themselves to see who's smarter.
so if a candidate lost in 36 state and win Abuja only is it fair to declare him winner

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 6:21pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
so if a candidate lost in 36 state and win Abuja only is it fair to declare him winner
Do you understand English at all?

I just conceded that all these scenerios are not fair altogether, it is not only the 25 percent in Abuja that is not fair.

All of them are not fair.

So a constitutional amendment is required.

But for now, what we need is a proper and final Supreme Court judgement on the meaning of "36 States and the FCT"

What does it mean constitutionally and legally? not what does it mean commonsensically?.

For the umpteenth time I say,

COMMON SENSE AND LAW ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:24pm On Sep 08, 2023
I am just asking you yes or no question and you must answer it
tesppidd:
Do you understand English at all?

I just conceded that all these scenerios are not fair altogether, it is not only the 25 percent in Abuja that is not fair.

All of them are not fair.

So a constitutional amendment is required.

But for now, what we need is a proper and final Supreme Court judgement on the meaning of "36 States and the FCT"

What does it mean constitutionally and legally? not what does it mean commonsensically?.

For the umpteenth time I say,

COMMON SENSE AND LAW ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by bdon123(m): 6:30pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
so someone that votes in abuja, his vote is more special and superior than someone that votes in suleja LGA in Niger state with is less than 1 km to Abuja territory ?
Yes as written in the constitution, it seems so.no be me write am.judiciary role is to interpret constitution as written not to change d overall idea.its simple 25% in 36 states and the FCT. The fact that this has been interpreted by supreme court before to mean no need for former arguments. Tribunal is a lower court than supreme court so lets see how supreme court will cancel their earlier pronouncements
Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:34pm On Sep 08, 2023
bdon123:

Yes as written in the constitution, it seems so.no be me write am.judiciary role is to interpret constitution as written not to change d overall idea.its simple 25% in 36 states and the FCT. The fact that this has been interpreted by supreme court before to mean no need for former arguments. Tribunal is a lower court than supreme court so lets see how supreme court will cancel their earlier pronouncements
so if a candidate lost in all 36 state and win only in abuja he should be declared winner?

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 6:37pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
I am just asking you yes or no question and you must answer it
I asked you this question first,, and you must answer it,,,

Should a president govern a territory where he gets only one percent of the votes of the people in that territory?

Answer this question. Yes or No?

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:47pm On Sep 08, 2023
tesppidd:
I asked you this question first,, and you must answer it,,,

Should a president govern a territory where he gets only one percent of the votes of the people in that territory?

Answer this question. Yes or No?
YES because the territory is not whole of Nigeria, and he is president of Nigeria not president of Abuja. oya so if a candidate lost in all 36 state and win only Abuja among many contestants that means he should be declared winner?

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by tesppidd: 6:50pm On Sep 08, 2023
yarimo:
YES because the territory is not whole of Nigeria, and he is president of Nigeria not president of Abuja. oya so if a candidate lost in all 36 state and win only Abuja among many contestants that means he should be declared winner?
grin

Utter nonsense!

So Rivers has a governor.

Kaduna has a governor.

Kogi has a governor.

They all elect their governors with a majority.

So Who is the governor of Abuja? And why must an unpopular governor govern them?

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Re: TRIBUNAL: A Lower Court Undermined The Supreme Court's Ruling On 25% FCT by yarimo(m): 6:51pm On Sep 08, 2023
tesppidd:
So Rivers has a governor.

Kaduna has a governor.

Kogi has a governor.

They all elect their governors with a majority.

So Who is the governor of Abuja? And why must an unpopular governor govern them?
just answer simple yes or no question

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