It is not written that by your hair doth a woman live.

sonmvayina:


How did Paul's personal correspondence with his friend Timothy become "the word of God"?

Or the ones he wrote to his frat members in Corinth, Theselonica or Phillipi?

Simple: because Paul heard directly from God so it is reasonable for all God lovers to see what he said in case there is something God told him which we need and can use.

And everything he said is exactly as what God Said and will Say as we see in the Testimonies of God of the days past (Old)

Dantedasz:


Just imagine this ignorance. There are 21 letters that are BOOKS in the new testament of the bible!
These letters are trusted,quoted and followed by adherents of Christianity every day!

Same as Lincoln's letters are followed by his people.

Dtruthspeaker:


Same as Lincoln's letters are followed by his people.

For Judas sake,are Abraham Lincolns letters part of a religious book of a deity. What kind of people are on this forum self?
Just because you want to win an argument do you have to bring points out of your backside??

Dantedasz:


For Judas sake,are Abraham Lincolns letters part of a religious book of a deity. What kind of people are on this forum self?
Just because you want to win an argument do you have to bring points out of your backside??

You were making an issue talking about people following a person's letters as if it is wrong/bad and I am simply pointing out that it is a reasonable and normal thing people do. So no issue here.

Dtruthspeaker:


You were making an issue taking about people following a person's letters as if it is wrong/bad and I am simply pointing out that it is a reasonable and normal thing people do. So no issue here.

Go back and start from the beginning then you will understand why I said what I said.

TheMadame:
Good day.
I have recently read 1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 9-15. People always talk about the fact that this chapter of the Bible admonishes women to be silent in church and learn from their husbands but are silent on the part about women's dressing in particular braided hairstyles. Verse 9 is the verse on which I seek enlightenment.
I only seek knowledge not quarrel or insults please.


1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 9-15.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Anti Christ.

Dantedasz:


Go back and start from the beginning then you will understand why I said what I said.

Ok. I see it. I will address that one.

confusedlady:


Anti Christ.

You keep on running all over my threads shouting "anti Christ".
You profer no solutions to the questions asked.
I am lost here.
Could you please bring me up to speed. Have I offended your sensibility?

TheMadame:


You keep on running all over my threads shouting "anti Christ".
You profer no solutions to the questions asked.
I am lost here.
Could you please bring me up to speed. Have I offended your sensibility?

that is how they behave, if u counter them they call u name...

izonborn098:
that is how they behave, if u counter them they call u name...

I am surprised. I quoted the Bible chapter that opposes braided hair. I asked a simple question and she has been digging up my old threads and writing anti Christ on them.
She should let us learn in peace and not try to derail the thread.

Dantedasz:
These are just MYSOGNYISTIC passages in the Bible written by patriarchal writers to belittle women. There are numerous passages like this one running throughout the bible from Genesis to Revelation.
The bible constantly seeks to degrade women and let them understand that the are second rate to men...

That is because you do not understand what has gone down e.g. who was the first to draw the wrath of God and to become His enemy, anywhere and everywhere? Satan.

Who was the first human being to draw that same Wrath? Female Adem.

Who was the first murderer? Cain

Who was the first serial murderer? Lamech, grandson of the first murderer.

Who was the first man to take 2 wives? The same first serial murderer, the same Lamech, grandson of the first murderer.

Who was the first righteous man? Enoch

So, the same way we have a thing for the first e.g. first car, first job, first wife, first house, first salary, first friend, first enemy, is also the way God too operates and places value on the first.

And even you have never forgiven a person who greatly betrays your love not to talk of when billions and billions of God's creations are destroyed because of her.

And till tomorrow women still continue to do the same evil which female Adam did.

As i said, no one ever wants to see or deal with an enemy or the children of an enemy and you forget that God is everywhere seeing everything, so He clearly sees every evil thing which women do even if you do not see them nor know them because you were not there and they pretend and deceive you with their silence and quietness.

Her monika said she is confused...

TheMadame:


I am surprised. I quoted the Bible chapter that opposes braided hair. I asked a simple question and she has been digging up my old threads and writing anti Christ on them.
She should let us learn in peace and not try to derail the thread.

no need wasting ur precious time with her...

TheMadame:


You keep on running all over my threads shouting "anti Christ".
You profer no solutions to the questions asked.
I am lost here.
Could you please bring me up to speed. Have I offended your sensibility?

You think we do not see your evil minds as proven by your threads and your responses? You really imagine that we do not see you?

You are an evil person if not the answers you got would have led you to tunderstanding and you would have found yourself not asking these questions.

During the international convention of Jehovah's Witnesses you will see cultural values as each of us attends the convention with our traditional dressing and local delicacies. The only thing that unite us as one family is our faith not cultural values!

MaxInDHouse:
During the international convention of Jehovah's Witnesses you will see cultural values as each of us attends the convention with our traditional dressing and local delicacies. The only thing that unite us as one family is our faith not cultural values!

How does this relate to the OP?

Dtruthspeaker:


You think we do not see your evil minds as proven your threads and your responses? [/b]You really imagine that we do not see you?

[b]You are an evil person if not the answers you got would have led you to tunderstanding and you would have found yourself not asking these questions.

Wow!
Once again I do not see how this answers the OP.
Should women braid their hair or not? Simple yes or no.
People are so sensitive.

TheMadame:

How does this relate to the OP?

Is hair braiding not part of cultures?

MaxInDHouse:


Is hair braiding not part of cultures?

1st Timothy chapter 2:9.


9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

Here are more different Bibles.

TheMadame:


Wow!
Once again I do not see how this answers the OP.
Should women braid their hair or not? Simple yes or no.
People are so sensitive.

Do you people not already do as you please?

TheMadame:

1st Timothy chapter 2:9.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

TheMadame:
Here are more different Bibles.

So how do you APPLY what you're quoting in a PRACTICAL sense?

Christian Women should be careful as to how they express themselves.
Their real beauty as believers is not in what they put on rather it's their good manners that really matters.

That's the import of what you're quoting not that faithful women shouldn't braid their hair.

The quotation mentioned several things including jewelries faithful women of ancient times put on jewelries but they don't rely on these things as what makes them beautiful rather they rely on their good manners!

MaxInDHouse:



So how do you APPLY what you're quoting in a PRACTICAL sense?

There is no harm in admitting you have no answer to the question raised in the OP,rather than wasting everyone's time .

MaxInDHouse:
Christian Women should be careful as to how they express themselves.
Their real beauty as believers is not in what they put on rather it's their good manners that really matters.

That's the import of what you're quoting not that faithful women shouldn't braid their hair.

The quotation mentioned several things including jewelries faithful women of ancient times put on jewelries but they don't rely on these things as what makes them beautiful rather they rely on their good manners!

So why is the law in the Bible,which is God's word? Should believers now cherry pick which of God's laws we choose to obey?

Dtruthspeaker:


Do you people not already do as you please?

Please if you do not know the answer to questions raised in the OP,you need to stop responding. Let people who have the knowledge respond so that me and you can learn.

TheMadame:

So why is the law in the Bible,which is God's word? Should believers now cherry pick which of God's laws we choose to obey?

God never said women shouldn't braid their hair it's your pastors that misinformed you!

MaxInDHouse:


God never said women shouldn't not braid their hair it's your pastors that misinformed you!

Look,I can't keep having a conversation with you if you keep on calling white as black.
I have given screen shots of various bibles and all say the same thing. From my interactions with you the default mode in your arguments are always pastors and atheists. It gets boring after some time. Please try and be a bit original. Don't just keep on repeating what you read in Awake and Watch tower. Read your Bible to comprehend and ask questions.



1st Timothy chapter 2 verse 9


9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

TheMadame:


Look,I can't keep having a conversation with you if you keep on calling white as black.
I have given screen shots of various bibles and all say the same thing. From my interactions with you the default mode in your arguments are always pastors and atheists. It gets boring after some time. Please try and be a bit original. Don't just keep on repeating what you read in Awake and Watch tower. Read your Bible to comprehend and ask questions.



1st Timothy chapter 2 verse 9


9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

The first question is: What was the reason behind this statement?

In what context is this statement being made?

What's the idea behind the pre-text and post-text of the place quoted?

Finally, is the quoted meant to be a standard practise for all Christian women today?

TheMadame:


Look,I can't keep having a conversation with you if you keep on calling white as black.
I have given screen shots of various bibles and all say the same thing. From my interactions with you the default mode in your arguments are always pastors and atheists. It gets boring after some time. Please try and be a bit original. Don't just keep on repeating what you read in Awake and Watch tower. Read your Bible to comprehend and ask questions.



1st Timothy chapter 2 verse 9


9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

Do faithful women of old do all these?

YES! But moderately.
That's the import of what you're quoting!

TheMadame:


Please if you do not know the answer to questions raised in the OP,you need to stop responding. Let people who have the knowledge respond so that me and you can learn.

The evil you do will do you too. You can as well ask if it is ok to steal.

Dtruthspeaker:


Simple: because Paul heard directly from God so it is reasonable for all God lovers to see what he said in case there is something God told him which we need and can use.

And everything he said is exactly as what God Said and will Say as we see in the Testimonies of God of the days past (Old)

Be deceiving yourself...

Letters he addressed to specific group...

Probably as the leader of the brotherhood or fraternity that he founded, they wanted clarity on some of the rules he introduced, so they wrote him letters and he answered them. Them somebody who wanted to deceive you saw it and added it at the back of God's divine laws and you foolishly fell for it...

You are here regurgitating the BS....

KONRINUE