patrickmuf:
If we sign Pep today, will you bet that in 2 years we won't start playing a recognizable pattern?

The fear here is that we have not seen anything that suggests there's a foundation being laid...

Meanwhile Patrick what do you need to see to make you believe foundation is being laid??

main24:


Meanwhile Patrick what do you need to see to make you believe foundation is being laid??

Watch City in Pep's first season or Liverpool in Klopp's first season. One thing is common, although the personnel was not good enough still you could see what they were trying to achieve.

patrickmuf:
If we sign Pep today, will you bet that in 2 years we won't start playing a recognizable pattern?

The fear here is that we have not seen anything that suggests there's a foundation being laid...

We can’t sign Pep because he won’t come here. Look at the clean and smart way he has planned his career. He goes to well run organisations with a very good structure in place.

We also have to remember that the good football Assanal is playing now took a couple of seasons to implement. There are serious reasons to criticise ETH but I honestly don’t think changing manager yet again will lead to any long term benefits.

Anybody who doubts the importance of a proper management structure should look at the sexy football Potter coached at Brighton and how utterly useless he looked at Chelshit.

afrodoc2:


We can’t sign Pep because he won’t come here. Look at the clean and smart way he has planned his career. He goes to well run organisations with a very good structure in place.

We also have to remember that the good football Assanal is playing now took a couple of seasons to implement. There are serious reasons to criticise ETH but I honestly don’t think changing manager yet again will lead to any long term benefits.

Anybody who doubts the importance of a proper management structure should look at the sexy football Potter coached at Brighton and how utterly useless he looked at Chelshit.

I am not advocating for a change just yet and I agree that a proper management structure is the way forward however, with the resources at ETH's disposal, I think we should be playing much better...Let's see some improvements at least and then we can hope for the best.

patrickmuf:
I am not advocating for a change just yet and I agree that a proper management structure is the way forward however, with the resources at ETH's disposal, I think we should be playing much better...Let's see some improvements at least and then we can hope for the best.

You are right. We should be playing better. Let’s see how the season goes in terms of quality and style of football, especially when Højlund, Mount, Amrabat, Mainoo are fully integrated into the first team.

A more serious concern is our transfer activity. Someone competent needs to come in and oversee that. There is evidence from his Ajax days that if ETH is given the right tools he can coach attractive attacking football. There is no evidence that he knows how to get those tools. Someone needs to save him from himself and take that full responsibility away from him.

My Prediction.

Bayern 1 - 2 Man United 😭😩🤲😭

patrickmuf:
Watch City in Pep's first season or Liverpool in Klopp's first season. One thing is common, although the personnel was not good enough still you could see what they were trying to achieve.

Liverpool struggled last season, ETH did better than Klopp in terms of result last season even with everything Klopp has been building.

I am not good at stats, did Pep win any trophy in his 1st year with Man city??

Oasis007:
My Prediction.

Bayern 1 - 2 Man United 😭😩🤲😭

Allegedly we've lost Mohbad to what's truly behind this post 😕..

afrodoc2:


We can’t sign Pep because he won’t come here. Look at the clean and smart way he has planned his career. He goes to well run organisations with a very good structure in place.

We also have to remember that the good football Assanal is playing now took a couple of seasons to implement. There are serious reasons to criticise ETH but I honestly don’t think changing manager yet again will lead to any long term benefits.

Anybody who doubts the importance of a proper management structure should look at the sexy football Potter coached at Brighton and how utterly useless he looked at Chelshit.

spot on brother.

Management is the heart of any organization including sports.

The coach is just a very small part of the Management. Man U is trying to build a style of play from the coach, that is a tedious way of doing it.
Yet they keep changing coach every time.
The proper way is to figure out what you want, hire a coach and players that fits into that ideology.

If the management is clueless, then stop sacking your coach every year. Give one time to build the structure.

Oasis007:
My Prediction.

Bayern 1 - 2 Man United 😭😩🤲😭

7-1; anything less Bayern is not serious.

Ole's recent interview with the Athletic.

http://archive.today/J8unL

Some interesting points there.

afrodoc2:


You are right. We should be playing better. Let’s see how the season goes in terms of quality and style of football, especially when Højlund, Mount, Amrabat, Mainoo are fully integrated into the first team.

A more serious concern is our transfer activity. Someone competent needs to come in and oversee that. There is evidence from his Ajax days that if ETH is given the right tools he can coach attractive attacking football. There is no evidence that he knows how to get those tools. Someone needs to save him from himself and take that full responsibility away from him.

I agree 100%...

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: "We [Man United] couldn’t buy the players I mentioned to the club. Haaland, before he made his Salzburg debut. Declan Rice, who wouldn’t have cost what he did in the summer. We discussed Caicedo but we felt we needed players ready for there and then."

main24:


it might not happen in 2 years. Too many drama when it comes to signing with Man U.
Too many internal drama with the club as well.

Pep Guardiola will not survive in Manchester United.

1. The Glazers won't buy his targets
2. The media will crucify him for calling McTomminay 'bad first touch.'
3. Fans will rain abuses on him after we complete 1 million passes, have 25 shots and still lose 1-0 to Reading
4. He will be blamed when Rashford decides to play his usual rubbish and Antony doesn't score tap ins.
5. The club will be in crisis mode when we lose 2 -3 consecutive games and everybody will call for his sack.

All these will happen in his first 8 months as manager.

main24:


Liverpool struggled last season, ETH did better than Klopp in terms of result last season even with everything Klopp has been building.

I am not good at stats, did Pep win any trophy in his 1st year with Man city??

We all know Liverpool were seriously plagued by injuries last season hence their poor performance but we all saw them push for a top 4 finish when their players began recovering from injuries. Their good start to the season is further proof that last season was just a one-off...

Mourinho won 3 trophies during his time here but we all knew his style of play was not going to guarantee results in the long run. I'd like to look past the Caraboa cup win last season and see if we are making progress as a team...Have we managed to close the gap between us and the likes of Arsenal, City or Liverpool? I think not.

patrickmuf:
We all know Liverpool were seriously plagued by injuries last season hence their poor performance but we all saw them push for a top 4 finish when their players began recovering from injuries. Their good start to the season is further proof that last season was just a one-off...

when are you going to give ETH his one-off season?

main24:


when are you going to give ETH his one-off season?

Is there time for that?

I just want to see all the players back and after a run of games, I'll know if we are headed in the right direction or not but still, I feel we should be playing better with the players available now.

Leyqute:


Pep Guardiola will not survive in Manchester United.

1. The Glazers won't buy his targets
2. The media will crucify him for calling McTomminay 'bad first touch.'
3. Fans will rain abuses on him after we complete 1 million passes, have 25 shots and still lose 1-0 to Reading
4. He will be blamed when Rashford decides to play his usual rubbish and Antony doesn't score tap ins.
5. The club will be in crisis mode when we lose 2 -3 consecutive games and everybody will call for his sack.

All these will happen in his first 8 months as manager.

Most people don’t realize that Txixi, Soriano and the structure behind Pep have every bit to do with City‘s success as Pep himself. That’s the problem with having owners who really don’t care and are also unwilling to relinquish full control to competent football people.

Pep would flop hilariously at the current Manchester United.

This same owners were here when Ferguson was dominating football world both home and abroad. But Pep Guardiola one of the greatest coach of all time will fail here. Excuses will never run dry 😂😂

Trevor012:
This same owners were here when Ferguson was dominating football world both home and abroad. But Pep Guardiola one of the greatest coach of all time will fail here. Excuses will never run dry 😂😂

Who Dey talk that one self ?

As far as there is finances guardiola won’t fail anywhere ,and man united got the finance

DeadPresidents:


Most people don’t realize that Txixi, Soriano and the structure behind Pep have every bit to do with City‘s success as Pep himself. That’s the problem with having owners who really don’t care and are also unwilling to relinquish full control to competent football people.

Pep would flop hilariously at the current Manchester United.

Pep won’t flop at man united oga

Una too like to Dey find excuses abeg

At times try to tell yourselves the truth

When Sir Ole was finishing top 3 back to back we didn't hear nonsense about how the structure was affecting him. The general agenda was Ole was a pe teacher and any other coach will be challenging for league titles with his squad. Patrickmumu was even calling Mctominay better than Rodri 😂 now we are here another nonsense excuse. Na Glazers make Brighton flog us senselessly for old Trafford despite missing half of their team , na Glazers make the team incapable of making passes 😂😂

Trevor012:
This same owners were here when Ferguson was dominating football world both home and abroad. But Pep Guardiola one of the greatest coach of all time will fail here. Excuses will never run dry 😂😂

Trevor, how many years did it take SAF to build his system?

main24:


Trevor, how many years did it take SAF to build his system?

Was Ferguson successful with the Glazers yes or no? That's the question you should be asking.

andrewbaba44:


Pep won’t flop at man united oga

Una too like to Dey find excuses abeg

At times try to tell yourselves the truth

José Mourinho won't flop at Man U too

SAF flopped at Man U for over 4 years.

Trevor012:

Was Ferguson successful with the Glazers yes or no? That's the question you should be asking.

SAF flopped at Man U for over 4 years.
He couldn't win even a spoon.

main24:


SAF flopped at Man U for over 4 years.
He couldn't win even a spoon.

That's a useless point. You are the one shouting about Glazers and structure. Was Ferguson not dominating football home and abroad under the Glazers?

Trevor012:
When Sir Ole was finishing top 3 back to back we didn't hear nonsense about how the structure was affecting him. The general agenda was Ole was a pe teacher and any other coach will be challenging for league titles with his squad. Patrickmumu was even calling Mctominay better than Rodri 😂 now we are here another nonsense excuse. Na Glazers make Brighton flog us senselessly for old Trafford despite missing half of their team , na Glazers make the team incapable of making passes 😂😂

How does a team maintain the same style of play even after changing their coach and almost half of their players?
How does a team keep scouting same profile of unknown players who then become big names later?

Trevor012:

That's a useless point. You are the one shouting about Glazers and structure. Was Ferguson not dominating football home and abroad under the Glazers?

No, he was not. SAF was a complete failure for good 4 years!

main24:


How does a team maintain the same style of play even after changing their coach and almost half of their players?
How does a team keep scouting same profile of unknown players who then become big names later?

Brighton is doing nothing special when it comes to scouting. They are just like the rest Epl mod table team with semi good players. The reason they are hyped it's down to their style of play and that's all on De zerbi coaching his team not management or owners. Erik 7evn is a useless coach who was badly exposed. Wolves did the same thing at old Trafford and should have scored 3 and even 4 goals with better finishing.

andrewbaba44:


Who Dey talk that one self ?

As far as there is finances guardiola won’t fail anywhere ,and[b] man united got the finance[/b]

who dash una finance?

main24:


No, he was not. SAF was a complete failure for good 4 years!

was that under the Glazers. You are just typing nonsense. You are blaming glazers and imaginary structure yet saf was dominating football under the same glazers winning numerous trophies.