FxMasterz:


That's how they do. In one breath they'll reverence their books as holy books, in another breath, they'll deny the same books whenever incriminating evidences stare them in the face. You'll quote from their Quran directly, they'll call you a liar. Very funny guys.

Muslims will throw Allah, the Qur'an and Mohammed under the bus to protect Islam by hook or crook: and they don't care a hoot about doing it!
No conscience!
The truth doesn't matter with them!

You didn't confirm or deny this too.

Confirm or deny if Sahih Bukhari 2155 says:
....Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah’s Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah’s Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable.”.....

Do you not try to place an importance on hadith when neither Allah nor Muhammad pbuh placed any importance on them?

TenQ:

Is your Quran, the book of your Allah even comprehensive?

If it is comprehensive, I why do you need thousands of hadiths and Tafsirs to back it up?

You Muslims even dispute on your own Tafsirs and you claim comprehensiveness!

Your Hadith is even less than comprehensive.
Bukhari has 7563 Hadiths
Muslim country has 3033 Hadiths

Do you even care to know the difference?
4,530
Only in Islam is this difference insignificant.

Finally,
If everything outside the Qur'an is invalid, why don't you practice Mutah (Holy Prostitution)
Do you or do you not practice nikāḥ al-mutʿah?

FxMasterz:


That's how they do. In one breath they'll reverence their books as holy books, in another breath, they'll deny the same books whenever incriminating evidences stare them in the face. You'll quote from their Quran directly, they'll call you a liar. Very funny guys.

And you rely on what neither Allah nor his prophet say muslims should refer to?

Perhaps it's a lot like Paul's encounter with Jesus pbuh after his passing that significantly controls the new testament.
What irrefutable proof is there that Paul indeed met Jesus? Did Jesus appear to the living apostles to affirm the status of Paul?

Here is Bukhari 2155
Sahih al-Bukhari 2155
Narrated `Aisha:
Allah's Messenger came to me and I told him about the slave-girl (Barirah) Allah's Messenger said, "Buy and manumit her, for the Wala is for the one who manumits." In the evening the Prophet got up and glorified Allah as He deserved and then said, "Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah's Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah's Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable."

So, why aren't you obeying Allah's commands?

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Confirm or deny if Sahih Bukhari 2155 says:
....Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah’s Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah’s Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable.”.....

Do you not try to place an importance on hadith when neither Allah nor Muhammad pbuh placed any importance on them?

Then why do you disregard the command of Allah in Qur'an 4:24 knowing that you should not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you according to Qur'an 5:87.

Here are laws you impose which are not present in Allah's book
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"

Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Hadith 3243:
Narrated by Abdullah: "We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of dates or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and during the time of Abu Bakr until Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr bin Huraith."

Can you not comprehend what is stated in Bukhari not to follow laws outside the Quran?

Which command do you accuse me of not following? Did I snatch your wife which is what 4:24 and 5:87 refer to? I doubt we have ever even met in person.

You are the one that often refers to hadith for no other cause than to claim errors in Islam without even understanding what hadith is about.

Concisely state your arguments and premise for wrong conclusions.

TenQ:
Here is Bukhari 2155
Sahih al-Bukhari 2155
Narrated `Aisha:
Allah's Messenger came to me and I told him about the slave-girl (Barirah) Allah's Messenger said, "Buy and manumit her, for the Wala is for the one who manumits." In the evening the Prophet got up and glorified Allah as He deserved and then said, "Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah's Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah's Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable."

So, why aren't you obeying Allah's commands?


Then why do you disregard the command of Allah in Qur'an 4:24 knowing that you should not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you according to Qur'an 5:87.

Here are laws you impose which are not present in Allah's book
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"

Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Hadith 3243:
Narrated by Abdullah: "We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of dates or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and during the time of Abu Bakr until Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr bin Huraith."

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Can you not comprehend what is stated in Bukhari not to follow laws outside the Quran?

Which command do you accuse me of not following? Did I snatch your wife which is what 4:24 and 5:87 refer to? I doubt we have ever even met in person.

You are the one that often refers to hadith for no other cause than to claim errors in Islam without even understanding what hadith is about.

Concisely state your arguments and premise for wrong conclusions.

Yes or No: Do you practice Mutah?

TenQ:

Yes or No: Do you practice Mutah?

What do the Quran verses you present say? Do they talk about Mutah?

You are unable to provide up to 3 hadith from or with Kab al abhar in the chain of narration and are diverting from the subject. Why? To cover your inability?

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You are unable to provide up to 3 hadith from or with Kab al abhar in the chain of narration and are diverting from the subject. Why? To cover your inability?

The burden of any proof of Kab al-Ahbar is on you. What was my claim on him that requires a proof?

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What do the Quran verses you present say? Do they talk about Mutah?

Yes, Qur'an 4:24 speaks of women lawful for you Muslims and it include Mutah.

Quran 4:24 (Surah An-Nisa):
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise."


1. You are forbidden to have sex with married women unless they are your captives in war, why then it becomes legal.
2. Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.

I am sure you know the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر.

Did Mohammed ever allow Mutah?
Yes or No!

TenQ:

The burden of any proof of Kab al-Ahbar is on you. What was my claim on him that requires a proof?

Finally he covetly admits he cannot present anaything. Maybe I will tell you some in a subsequent post.

TenQ:


Yes, Qur'an 4:24 speaks of women lawful for you Muslims and it include Mutah.

Quran 4:24 (Surah An-Nisa):
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise."


1. You are forbidden to have sex with married women unless they are your captives in war, why then it becomes legal.
2. Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.

I am sure you know the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر.

Q4:24And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.

Point of focus italicised and emboldened.
(You seek them in marriage) and (desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse.

Or another translation of the meaning:
Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women—except ˹female˺ captives in your possession. This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these—as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

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Finally he covetly admits he cannot present anaything. Maybe I will tell you some in a subsequent post.



Q4:24And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.

Point of focus italicised and emboldened.
(You seek them in marriage) and (desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse.

Of cause,!
What is chastity?

Qur'an 5:87
"O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors."

The background and context for this verse
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"



Chastity is following the rules of Allah for Mutah.
The rules of Allah
Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.

According to Allah, it is a transgression and it is unlawful to RAPE or DEFRAUD an unmarried woman to have sex with her AND A married woman is lawful to Muslims only if she's a prisoner of war

These are the good things Allah has made lawful to you

What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

TenQ:

Of cause,!
What is chastity?

Qur'an 5:87
"O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors."

The background and context for this verse
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"



Chastity is following the rules of Allah for Mutah.
The rules of Allah
Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.

According to Allah, it is a transgression and it is unlawful to RAPE or DEFRAUD an unmarried woman to have sex with her AND A married woman is lawful to Muslims only if she's a prisoner of war

These are the good things Allah has made lawful to you

What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

As you insist on using hadith to derive the meaning of Quran verses can you help choose which is to be taken:
Ibn Kathir reports:
`Ali bin Abi Talhah said that Ibn `Abbas said, “This Ayah ﴿5:87﴾ was revealed about some of the Companions of the Prophet who said, `We should cut off our male organs, abandon the desires of this life and travel in the land, just as the Ruhban (monks) do.’ When the Prophet heard of this statement, he summoned them and asked them if they made this statement and they answered `Yes.’ The Prophet said:
I fast and break my fast, pray and sleep, and marry women. Whoever follows my Sunnah is of me, and whoever abandons my Sunnah is not of me. Ibn Abi Hatim also collected this Hadith. Ibn Marduwyah recorded that Al-`Awfi said that Ibn `Abbas narrated a similar Hadith. It is recorded in the Two Sahihs that `A'ishah said that some of the Companions asked the wives of the Prophet about the acts of worship that he performed in private. One of them said, "I will not eat meat,'' another said, "I will not marry women,'' while the third said, "I will not sleep on the bed.'' When the Prophet heard this statement, he said,What is the matter with some people who said such and such I fast and break the fast, sleep and wake to stand to pray, eat meat, and marry women. He who is not pleased with my Sunnah is not of me.Allah's statement and transgress not means, do not exaggerate and make it hard for yourselves by prohibiting the permissible things Do not transgress the limits by excessively indulging in the permissible matters; only use of it what satisfies your need; and do not fall into extravagance

Al- Maududi says:
This verse embodies two directives. The first is that man should not attribute to himself the authority to proclaim things either lawful or unlawful according to his own wishes. Only that which God has held to be lawful is lawful, and only that which God has declared unlawful is unlawful. If men were to declare certain things either lawful or unlawful on their own authority, they would not be following the law of God but their own laws. The second directive is that they should not adopt the course of world-renunciation and abstention from worldly pleasures as the Christian monks, Hindu mendicants, Buddhist bhikshus and illuminist mystics did. Religious-minded and virtuous people have always tended to consider their physical and carnal desires an impediment to spiritual growth. They have considered suffering, deprivation from worldly pleasures and abstention from the means of worldly sustenance to be acts of goodness and indispensable for achieving proximity to God. Even some of the Companions leaned in this direction. The Prophet (peace be on him) once came to know that some Companions had resolved that they would fast without interruption, that instead of spending the night on their beds they would remain awake praying, that they would consume neither meat nor fat, and would have no (sexual) relations with women. The Prophet (peace be on him) addressed the people on this subject and said: ‘I have not been commanded to do so. Even your own self has rights against you. So, fast on certain days and refrain from fasting on others. Stay awake praying at night and also sleep. Look at me; 1 sleep as well as stay awake (praying); sometimes I fast and sometimes I don’t. I consume meat as well as fat. Whosoever dislikes my way does not belong to me.’ He then added: ‘What has happened to people that they have prohibited for themselves women, good food, perfumes, sleep and the pleasures of the world, whereas I have not taught you to become monks and priests. In my religion there is neither abstention from women nor from meat, neither seclusion nor withdrawal.

For the purposes of self-control my religion has fasting. As for monasticism, all its benefits can be derived from jihad (struggle in the way of God). Serve God and associate none with Him. Perform Hajj and ‘Umrah, establish Prayers, dispense Zakah and observe the fasts of Ramadan. Those who were destroyed before you were destroyed because they were severe with themselves, and when they became severe with themselves God became severe with them as well.

You can see Ibn Kathir and Maududi are more encompassing in discussing this verse.

Do tell me the difference between مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر as well as it's relevance to this discussion.

Can you also quote this your Bukhari hadith in full as I am finding hadith of this specification with different content?

TenQ:

Of cause,!
What is chastity?

Qur'an 5:87
"O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors."

The background and context for this verse
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"



Chastity is following the rules of Allah for Mutah.
The rules of Allah
Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.

According to Allah, it is a transgression and it is unlawful to RAPE or DEFRAUD an unmarried woman to have sex with her AND A married woman is lawful to Muslims only if she's a prisoner of war

These are the good things Allah has made lawful to you

What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

Explore2xmore:


As you insist on using hadith to derive the meaning of Quran verses can you help choose which is to be taken:
Ibn Kathir reports:
`Ali bin Abi Talhah said that Ibn `Abbas said, “This Ayah ﴿5:87﴾ was revealed about some of the Companions of the Prophet who said, `We should cut off our male organs, abandon the desires of this life and travel in the land, just as the Ruhban (monks) do.’ When the Prophet heard of this statement, he summoned them and asked them if they made this statement and they answered `Yes.’ The Prophet said:
I fast and break my fast, pray and sleep, and marry women. Whoever follows my Sunnah is of me, and whoever abandons my Sunnah is not of me. Ibn Abi Hatim also collected this Hadith. Ibn Marduwyah recorded that Al-`Awfi said that Ibn `Abbas narrated a similar Hadith. It is recorded in the Two Sahihs that `A'ishah said that some of the Companions asked the wives of the Prophet about the acts of worship that he performed in private. One of them said, "I will not eat meat,'' another said, "I will not marry women,'' while the third said, "I will not sleep on the bed.'' When the Prophet heard this statement, he said,What is the matter with some people who said such and such I fast and break the fast, sleep and wake to stand to pray, eat meat, and marry women. He who is not pleased with my Sunnah is not of me.Allah's statement and transgress not means, do not exaggerate and make it hard for yourselves by prohibiting the permissible things Do not transgress the limits by excessively indulging in the permissible matters; only use of it what satisfies your need; and do not fall into extravagance

Al- Maududi says:
This verse embodies two directives. The first is that man should not attribute to himself the authority to proclaim things either lawful or unlawful according to his own wishes. Only that which God has held to be lawful is lawful, and only that which God has declared unlawful is unlawful. If men were to declare certain things either lawful or unlawful on their own authority, they would not be following the law of God but their own laws. The second directive is that they should not adopt the course of world-renunciation and abstention from worldly pleasures as the Christian monks, Hindu mendicants, Buddhist bhikshus and illuminist mystics did. Religious-minded and virtuous people have always tended to consider their physical and carnal desires an impediment to spiritual growth. They have considered suffering, deprivation from worldly pleasures and abstention from the means of worldly sustenance to be acts of goodness and indispensable for achieving proximity to God. Even some of the Companions leaned in this direction. The Prophet (peace be on him) once came to know that some Companions had resolved that they would fast without interruption, that instead of spending the night on their beds they would remain awake praying, that they would consume neither meat nor fat, and would have no (sexual) relations with women. The Prophet (peace be on him) addressed the people on this subject and said: ‘I have not been commanded to do so. Even your own self has rights against you. So, fast on certain days and refrain from fasting on others. Stay awake praying at night and also sleep. Look at me; 1 sleep as well as stay awake (praying); sometimes I fast and sometimes I don’t. I consume meat as well as fat. Whosoever dislikes my way does not belong to me.’ He then added: ‘What has happened to people that they have prohibited for themselves women, good food, perfumes, sleep and the pleasures of the world, whereas I have not taught you to become monks and priests. In my religion there is neither abstention from women nor from meat, neither seclusion nor withdrawal.

For the purposes of self-control my religion has fasting. As for monasticism, all its benefits can be derived from jihad (struggle in the way of God). Serve God and associate none with Him. Perform Hajj and ‘Umrah, establish Prayers, dispense Zakah and observe the fasts of Ramadan. Those who were destroyed before you were destroyed because they were severe with themselves, and when they became severe with themselves God became severe with them as well.

You can see Ibn Kathir and Maududi are more encompassing in discussing this verse.

Do tell me the difference between مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر as well as it's relevance to this discussion.

Maybe you tell me which to use here


Tafsir Qur'an 4:24 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives; it is also said that this means: so that you buy with your wealth captives; and it is also said that this means: so that you should seek with your money marrying women for an agreed period of time (zawaj al-mut'ah) but the lawfulness of this practice was later abrogated, (in honest wedlock) He says: be with them as legitimate husbands, (not debauchery) not indulging in adultery without having a proper marriage. (And those of whom) after marriage (ye seek content) from whom you derive benefit, (give unto them their portions) give to them their full dowry (as a duty) as an obligation upon you from Allah to give the dowry in full. (And there is no sin for you) there is no harm for you (in what ye do by mutual agreement) in increasing or decreasing the amount of the dowry by mutual agreement (after the duty hath been done) after the first obligation to which you have aspired. (Lo! Allah is ever Knower) in relation to making lawful to you marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, (Wise) in later making this practice unlawful; it is also said that this means: Allah is ever Knower of your compulsion for marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, Wise in making such marriage unlawful.


Did you brother to read Ibn Kathir before posting it? It agrees perfectly with my position and it further explains it's abrogation. SMH


Tafsir Qur'an 4:24 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Forbidding Women Already Married, Except for Female Slaves
Allah said, (Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.) The Ayah means, you are prohibited from marrying women who are already married, (except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah was revealed, (Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women.'' This is the wording collected by At-Tirmidhi An-Nasa'i, Ibn Jarir and Muslim in his Sahih. Allah's statement,
(Thus has Allah ordained for you) means, this prohibition was ordained for you by Allah. Therefore, adhere to Allah's Book, do not transgress His set limits, and adhere to His legislation and decrees.
The Permission to Marry All Other Women
Allah said,
(All others are lawful) meaning, you are allowed to marry women other than the prohibited types mentioned here, as `Ata' and others have stated. Allah's statement,
(provided you seek them (with a dowry) from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication,) meaning, you are allowed to use your money to marry up to four wives and for (the purchase of) as many female slaves as you like, all through legal means,
((desiring) chastity, not fornication.) Allah's statement,
(So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due,) means, to enjoy them sexually, surrender to them their rightful dowry as compensation. In other Ayat, Allah said,
(And how could you take it (back) while you have gone in unto each other),
(And give to the women (whom you marry) their dowry with a good heart), and,
(And it is not lawful for you (men) to take back (from your wives) any of what (dowry) you gave them)
Prohibiting the Mut`ah of Marriage
Mujahid stated that,
(So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due,) was revealed about the Mut`ah marriage. A Mut`ah marriage is a marriage that ends upon a predeterminied date. In the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that the Leader of the Faithful `Ali bin Abi Talib said, "The Messenger of Allah prohibited Mut`ah marriage and eating the meat of domesticated donkeys on the day of Khaybar (battle).'' In addition, in his Sahih, Muslim recorded that Ar-Rabi` bin Sabrah bin Ma`bad Al-Juhani said that his father said that he accompanied the Messenger of Allah during the conquest of Makkah, and that the Prophet said,
(O people! I allowed you the Mut`ah marriage with women before. Now, Allah has prohibited it until the Day of Resurrection. Therefore, anyone who has any women in Mut`ah, let him let them go, and do not take anything from what you have given them.) Allah's statement,
(but if you agree mutually (to give more) after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you.) is similar to His other statement,
(And give to the women their dowry with a good heart). The meaning of these Ayat is: If you have stipulated a dowry for her, and she later forfeits it, either totally or partially, then this bears no harm on you or her in this case. Ibn Jarir said, "Al-Hadrami said that some men would designate a certain dowry, but then fall into financial difficulties. Therefore, Allah said that there is no harm on you, O people, concerning your mutual agreement after the requirement (has been determined).'' meaning, if she gives up part of the dowry, then you men are allowed to accept that. Allah's statement,
(Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.) is suitable here, after Allah mentioned these prohibitions.


How are these different from what I've been drumming into your head with Qur'an 4:24? It is also about Mutah sir.



Is TenQ now related to both of Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir?
Will you tell me that Kab al-Ahbar your Jewish scapegoat wrote these two tafsirs?


You can see Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir are more encompassing in discussing this verse.


Is it UNTRUE that Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir related Qur'an 4:24 also with Mutah?

Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52 is Also repeated in Hadith by Muslim with respect to Qur'an 5:87

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

Explore2xmore:
Can you also quote this your Bukhari hadith in full as I am finding hadith of this specification with different content?

Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13
=Sahih al-Bukhari 5075




What is chastity?

Qur'an 5:87
"O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors."

The background and context for this verse
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"



Chastity is following the rules of Allah for Mutah.
The rules of Allah
Every other kind of women are lawful to you for sex provided
a. You give these women gifts and
b. Pay the women their dues for the sexual service provided as a must
c. Fulfill your Mutual agreement with these women.

According to Allah, it is a transgression and it is unlawful to RAPE or DEFRAUD an unmarried woman to have sex with her AND A married woman is lawful to Muslims only if she's a prisoner of war

These are the good things Allah has made lawful to you

What is the difference between
مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مهر?

corrected!

Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?

Now you did not appropriately tag the hadith in your original post. And you still mistag here. Why?

TenQ:
Here is

Sahih al-Bukhari, [b]Book 62, Hadith 52:[/b]
Narrated by Abdullah bin Mas'ud: "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, 'Shall we get ourselves castrated?' He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry a woman temporarily by giving her even a garment, and then he recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you.'"

Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Hadith 3243:
Narrated by Abdullah: "We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of dates or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and during the time of Abu Bakr until Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr bin Huraith."

Narrated Salama:
`Ali happened to stay behind the Prophet and (did not join him) during the battle of Khaibar for he was having eye trouble. Then he said, "How could I remain behind Allah's Messenger ?" So `Ali set out following the Prophet, When it was the eve of the day in the morning of which Allah helped (the Muslims) to conquer it, Allah's Messenger said, "I will give the flag (to a man), or tomorrow a man whom Allah and His Apostle love will take the flag," or said, "A man who loves Allah and His Apostle; and Allah will grant victory under his leadership." Suddenly came `Ali whom we did not expect. The people said, "This is `Ali." Allah's Messenger gave him the flag and Allah granted victory under his leadership.
Bukhari 62 Hadith 52

TenQ:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 62, Hadith 52 is Also repeated in Hadith by Muslim with respect to Qur'an 5:87

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Narrated `Ali:
I said to Ibn `Abbas, "During the battle of Khaibar the Prophet forbade (Nikah) Al-Mut'a and the eating of donkey's meat."
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 52

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah and Salama bin Al-Akwa`:

While we were in an army, Allah's Messenger came to us and said, "You have been allowed to do the Mut'a (marriage), so do it."
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 54

Do the immediate two hadith above this writing not contradict each other?

Then:
Salama bin Al-Akwa` said:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)'s said, "If a man and a woman agree (to marry temporarily), their marriage should last for three nights, and if they like to continue, they can do so; and if they want to separate, they can do so." I do not know whether that was only for us or for all the people in general. Abu `Abdullah (Al-Bukhari) said: `Ali made it clear that the Prophet said, "The Mut'a marriage has been cancelled (made unlawful).
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 55

Why do you insist on describing Islam with literature that obviously contradict each other.


I don't have the time to show you all the hadith that forbid this mutah you refer to but will paste a link for you to see.

https://sunnah.com/search?q=temporary+marriage

You will read hadith from Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, Abi Dawud, Bulugh etc. forbidding Mutah

Why do you now cross out the arabic words? I simply asked you to explain them and their relevance. Does the crossing mean a withdrawal of the question?

Wrong basis for comparison. How did Allah create animals and other living things compared to how he created man?

He is the One Who has made perfectly everything He has created: He began the creation of human beings with clay, And made his progeny from a quintessence of the nature of a fluid despised: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit…”
Q32:7-9

All other creatures were created in a different manner and he did not breath into them to give them life.

And Allah has created from water every living creature. Some of them crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything.
Q24:45

The nature and position of mankind in his creation is far different from other creatures. Allah created mankind and jinn to worship him

I have not created the jinns and men but to worship Me.Q51:56

So you see however highly placed Jesus pbuh is he created neither man nor jinn.

TenQ:

It seems you don't read the Qur'an.
Jesus said:
I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird,
then
I breathe into it and it becomes a bird

Explore2xmore:
Now you did not appropriately tag the hadith in your original post. And you still mistag here. Why?


Narrated Salama:
`Ali happened to stay behind the Prophet and (did not join him) during the battle of Khaibar for he was having eye trouble. Then he said, "How could I remain behind Allah's Messenger ?" So `Ali set out following the Prophet, When it was the eve of the day in the morning of which Allah helped (the Muslims) to conquer it, Allah's Messenger said, "I will give the flag (to a man), or tomorrow a man whom Allah and His Apostle love will take the flag," or said, "A man who loves Allah and His Apostle; and Allah will grant victory under his leadership." Suddenly came `Ali whom we did not expect. The people said, "This is `Ali." Allah's Messenger gave him the flag and Allah granted victory under his leadership.
Bukhari 62 Hadith 52



Narrated `Ali:
I said to Ibn `Abbas, "During the battle of Khaibar the Prophet forbade (Nikah) Al-Mut'a and the eating of donkey's meat."
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 52

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah and Salama bin Al-Akwa`:

While we were in an army, Allah's Messenger came to us and said, "You have been allowed to do the Mut'a (marriage), so do it."
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 54

Do the immediate two hadith above this writing not contradict each other?

Then:
Salama bin Al-Akwa` said:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)'s said, "If a man and a woman agree (to marry temporarily), their marriage should last for three nights, and if they like to continue, they can do so; and if they want to separate, they can do so." I do not know whether that was only for us or for all the people in general. Abu `Abdullah (Al-Bukhari) said: `Ali made it clear that the Prophet said, "The Mut'a marriage has been cancelled (made unlawful).
Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 55

Why do you insist on describing Islam with literature that obviously contradict each other.


I don't have the time to show you all the hadith that forbid this mutah you refer to but will paste a link for you to see.

https://sunnah.com/search?q=temporary+marriage

You will read hadith from Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, Abi Dawud, Bulugh etc. forbidding Mutah

Why do you now cross out the arabic words? I simply asked you to explain them and their relevance. Does the crossing mean a withdrawal of the question?

My error please for the incorrect citation on Bukhari. Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 52

Error regretted!
The correct citation is below


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


This also found in

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

My argument is not whether Mutual was cancelled or not. Of course it was cancelled BUT not by Allah in the Qur'an.

Your Claim 1:

Explore2xmore:
Confirm or deny if Sahih Bukhari 2155 says:
....Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah’s Book (Laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah’s Laws, then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah's conditions are more binding and reliable.”.....

Do you not try to place an importance on hadith when neither Allah nor Muhammad pbuh placed any importance on them?

My response,
1. The command to do Mutah was given by Allah in Quran 4:24
2. The command for Mutah was never abrogated by Allah in the Quran.
3. Mohammed later abrogated Allah's command for Mutah
4. The report of Mohammed abrogating the command of Allah on Mutah can only be found in the Hadith.
Conclusion :
Why do you hold on to Hadiths over the command of Allah in the Qur'an

2. I showed you from your hadiths that Qur'an 4:24 is about Temporary Marriage (Mutah).
a. Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
b. Sahih Muslim 1404a

3. If you doubt, I give me a single verse where Mutah was abrogated in the Qur'an.

How people just love to defend a pedophile,fetish, confused, died of poison, married a way older woman, is just amazingly mouth gaping.

Blindness is real.

Explore2xmore:
Wrong basis for comparison. How did Allah create animals and other living things compared to how he created man?

He is the One Who has made perfectly everything He has created: He began the creation of human beings with clay, And made his progeny from a quintessence of the nature of a fluid despised: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit…”
Q32:7-9

All other creatures were created in a different manner and he did not breath into them to give them life.

And Allah has created from water every living creature. Some of them crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs, and some walk on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything.
Q24:45

The nature and position of mankind in his creation is far different from other creatures. Allah created mankind and jinn to worship him

I have not created the jinns and men but to worship Me.Q51:56

So you see however highly placed Jesus pbuh is he created neither man nor jinn.

1. There is no verse that says explicitly that Allah did not breathe into the animals as animals were collectively grouped without any specifics
2. Man is the highest of God's creation and Allah specifically said he breathe into Adam after moulding him with mud or clay.
3. Jesus did exactly what Allah did
a. He moulded with clay
b. He breathe into the clay
c. The clay came to life and animals.

Are you aware that the challenge of Allah was about something as small as a fly and not Man nor Jinn?
Quran 22:73
"O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought."

Are you saying Allah is wrong and you are correct on this?


1. Do you agree that Jesus is at least a co-creator with Allah?
2. Do you know any other human with this ability to create life?


probably the descendants of the bird created by Jesus is still alive right now.
LOL!

I doesn't dawn on you that Jesus did

Mallam Explore2xmore,
Why haven't you answered my questions?


Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?

Blue86:
How people just love to defend a pedophile,fetish, confused, died of poison, married a way older woman, is just amazingly mouth gaping.

Blindness is real.

Don't mind them.
They would rather follow a 419 than the Messiah!

Your reliance on hadith before reading the Quran has only made you misunderstand the Quran.

Quran 4, An-Nisaa, The women adequately talks about marriage and does not refer to Mutah.

Foremost in verse 3: And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

Then verse 4 says give women their dowries graciously. But if they willingly forego some of it, then consume it with enjoyment and pleasure.

It now follows with further guidance as to who and how you should marry.

22. Do not marry women whom your fathers married, except what is already past. That is improper, indecent, and a bad custom.

23. Forbidden for you are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship—born of wives you have gone into—but if you have not gone into them (essentially the marriage is not consumated), there is no blame on you. And the wives of your genetic sons, and marrying two sisters simultaneously. Except what is past. God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

24. And all married women, except those you rightfully possess. This is God’s decree, binding upon you. Permitted for you are those that lie outside these limits, provided you seek them in legal marriage, with gifts from your property, seeking wedlock, not prostitution. If you wish to enjoy them (important), then give them their dowry—a legal obligation. You commit no error by agreeing to any change to the dowry. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.

25. If any of you lack the means to marry free believing women, he may marry one of the believing maids under your control. God is well aware of your faith. You are from one another. Marry them with the permission of their guardians, and give them their recompense fairly—to be protected—neither committing adultery, nor taking secret lovers. When they are married, if they commit adultery, their punishment shall be half that of free women. That is for those among you who fear falling into decadence. But to practice self-restraint is better for you. God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.

26. God intends to make things clear to you, and to guide you in the ways of those before you, and to redeem you. God is Most Knowing, Most Wise.

So you see it doesn't talk of Mutah.

The Quran itself says one should not insist on believing in a ready-made proposition or accepting a popular hypothesis, without deep observation and reasoning, as this is misguiding (2:170, 5:104, 10:100-101, 31:21, 33:67, 37:69-71)

It also harshly criticizes the inertia of a vegetative existence that lacks critical thinking and cognition (7:179, 8:22, 10:100-101, 11:24)

As well as describes unquestioning minds as polluted (10:100); describing unreasoning folks as subhumans (7:179, 8:22, 25:44).

Once you can critically and sincerely study the Quran you will see that Allah never prescribed Mutah. Sadly commentators have mislead many to wrong understanding that Quran prescribes temporary marriage.

It is indisputable that temporary marriages was part of the Arabian culture in the time of ignorance and quite a number tried to find ways to hold on to their previous ways. Indeed sincerity , steadfastness and strength in faith isn't automatic. Therein is the real jihad of every believer. You should know too that Israelites married from the female captives of war and were most certain to kill their husbands and males.

TenQ:


My error please for the incorrect citation on Bukhari. Bukhari Book 67 Hadith 52

Error regretted!
The correct citation is below


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


This also found in

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

My argument is not whether Mutual was cancelled or not. Of course it was cancelled BUT not by Allah in the Qur'an.

Your Claim 1:


My response,
1. The command to do Mutah was given by Allah in Quran 4:24
2. The command for Mutah was never abrogated by Allah in the Quran.
3. Mohammed later abrogated Allah's command for Mutah
4. The report of Mohammed abrogating the command of Allah on Mutah can only be found in the Hadith.
Conclusion :
Why do you hold on to Hadiths over the command of Allah in the Qur'an

2. I showed you from your hadiths that Qur'an 4:24 is about Temporary Marriage (Mutah).
a. Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 =Sahih al-Bukhari 5075:
b. Sahih Muslim 1404a

3. If you doubt, I give me a single verse where Mutah was abrogated in the Qur'an.

Explore2xmore:
Your reliance on hadith before reading the Quran has only made you misunderstand the Quran.

Quran 4, An-Nisaa, The women adequately talks about marriage and does not refer to Mutah.

Foremost in verse 3: And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

Then verse 4 says give women their dowries graciously. But if they willingly forego some of it, then consume it with enjoyment and pleasure.

It now follows with further guidance as to who and how you should marry.

22. Do not marry women whom your fathers married, except what is already past. That is improper, indecent, and a bad custom.

23. Forbidden for you are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship—born of wives you have gone into—but if you have not gone into them (essentially the marriage is not consumated), there is no blame on you. And the wives of your genetic sons, and marrying two sisters simultaneously. Except what is past. God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

24. And all married women, except those you rightfully possess. This is God’s decree, binding upon you. Permitted for you are those that lie outside these limits, provided you seek them in legal marriage, with gifts from your property, seeking wedlock, not prostitution. If you wish to enjoy them (important), then give them their dowry—a legal obligation. You commit no error by agreeing to any change to the dowry. God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.

25. If any of you lack the means to marry free believing women, he may marry one of the believing maids under your control. God is well aware of your faith. You are from one another. Marry them with the permission of their guardians, and give them their recompense fairly—to be protected—neither committing adultery, nor taking secret lovers. When they are married, if they commit adultery, their punishment shall be half that of free women. That is for those among you who fear falling into decadence. But to practice self-restraint is better for you. God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.

26. God intends to make things clear to you, and to guide you in the ways of those before you, and to redeem you. God is Most Knowing, Most Wise.

So you see it doesn't talk of Mutah.

The Quran itself says one should not insist on believing in a ready-made proposition or accepting a popular hypothesis, without deep observation and reasoning, as this is misguiding (2:170, 5:104, 10:100-101, 31:21, 33:67, 37:69-71)

It also harshly criticizes the inertia of a vegetative existence that lacks critical thinking and cognition (7:179, 8:22, 10:100-101, 11:24)

As well as describes unquestioning minds as polluted (10:100); describing unreasoning folks as subhumans (7:179, 8:22, 25:44).

Once you can critically and sincerely study the Quran you will see that Allah never prescribed Mutah. Sadly commentators have mislead many to wrong understanding that Quran prescribes temporary marriage.

It is indisputable that temporary marriages was part of the Arabian culture in the time of ignorance and quite a number tried to find ways to hold on to their previous ways. Indeed sincerity , steadfastness and strength in faith isn't automatic. Therein is the real jihad of every believer. You should know too that Israelites married from the female captives of war and were most certain to kill their husbands and males.

Is marrying with a temporary contract not a kind of Islamic Marriage?
Is this not what is called Mutah?

If you had answered my questions, you would not be doing break-dance about the thread.


Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?

I put the question back to the questuoner when he asked about مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مَهَرَ to answer describing it's relevance to the discussion.

You later striked this through without answering or saying why only saying corrected. I didn't mark what wasn't being examined and you replaced with أُجُورَهُنَّ.

Do feel free to tell or explain. Appreciate.

TenQ:
Mallam Explore2xmore,
Why haven't you answered my questions?


Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?

As earlier informed.

Abū Isḥāq Kaʿb ibn Maniʿ, also known as Kaʿb al-Aḥbār, was a Jewish convert to Islam who lived in the first century of Islamic history. He played a significant role in the formation of Islamic traditions through the collation of hadith.

His desire to establish his authority and gain influence among the early Muslim community cannot be overlooked. As a convert from Judaism, he sought to establish his credibility and position within the Islamic tradition. By fabricating hadith that were attributed to the Prophet Muhammad, he positioned himself as an important source of knowledge and guidance

Being well-versed in Jewish scripture and traditions, he sought to incorporate elements of Jewish religious teachings into the Islamic narrative. By fabricating hadith that supported Jewish beliefs or linked them with Islamic practices, Abū Isḥāq Kaʿb ibn Maniʿ aimed to consolidate the cultural and religious dimensions of the Muslim community. You may be familiar with the term Israliyat or Israeli stories.

It is essential to recognize that not all of Abū Isḥāq Kaʿb ibn Maniʿ's contributions were negative or unfounded. Some of the fabricated hadith attributed to him contain historical or moral lessons that align with Islamic values.

Yahya related to me from Malik from Zayd ibn Aslam from Ata ibn Yasar that Kab al-Ahbar said, "If the person who passed in front of a man praying knew what he was bringing on himself, it would be better for him to sink into the ground than to pass in front of him.
Al Muwatta Book 9, Hadith 38

Yahya related to me from Malik from his paternal uncle, Abu Suhayl ibn Malik from his father that Kab al-Ahbar said, "If you want to know what a slave has with his Lord, then look at whatever good praise follows him.
Al Muwatta Book 47, Hadith 1640

Amr b. Abu Sufyan reported:
Abu Huraira said to Ka'b al-Ahbar that the Messenger of Allah pbuh had said: For every apostle there Is a (special) prayer by which he would pray (to his Lord). I, however, intend (if Allah so willed) that I would reserve my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection. Ka'b said to Abu Huraira: Did you hear this from the Messenger of Allah pbuh? Abu Huraira said: Yes.
Sahih Muslim 198d

Yahya related to me from Malik, from Zayd ibn Aslam, from Ata ibn Yasar, that Kab al-Ahbar was once coming back from Syria with a group of riders, and at a certain point along the road they found some game- meat and Kab said they could eat it. When they got back to Madina they went to Umar ibn al-Khattab and told him about that, and he said, "Who told you you could do that?", and they said, ''Kab.'' He said, "He was indeed the one I made amir over you until you should return."

Later, when they were on the road to Makka, a swarm of locusts passed them by and Kab told them to catch them and eat them. When they got back to Umar ibn al-Khattab they told him about this, and he said (to Kab), "What made you tell them they could do that?" Kab said, "It is game of the sea." He said, "How do you know?", and Kab said, "Amir al- muminin, by the One in whose hand my self is, it is only the sneeze of a fish which it sneezes twice every year."

Malik was asked whether a muhrim could buy game that he had found on the way. He replied, "Game that is only hunted to be offered to people performing Hajj I disapprove of and forbid, but there is no harm in game that a man has which he does not intend for those in ihram, but which a muhrim finds and buys."

Malik said, about someone who had some game with him that he had hunted or bought at the time when he had entered into ihram, that he did not have to get rid of it, and that there was no harm in him giving it to his family.

Malik said that it was halal for some one in ihram to fish in the sea or in rivers and lakes, etc.
Muwatta Book 20 Hadith 787

Yahya related to me from Malik from Afif ibn Amr as-Sahmi that Ata ibn Yasar said, "I asked Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-As and Kab al Ahbar about someone who was uncertain in his prayer, and did not know whether he had prayed three or four rakas. Both of them said, 'He should pray another raka and then do two sajdas from the sitting position. Muwatta Chapter 3 Hadith 68

Ka'b Al-Ahbar also said every event that has taken place or will take place, on any foot of the earth, is written in the Torah, which Allah revealed to His Prophet Moses.

He also said to Umar r.a when he summoned him and asked where do you think better to build the musalla, oratory? " Ka’b replied: "Beside the rock"i.e. the rock would be the qiblah." 'Umar r.a said: "O Jewish person [son of a Jewish woman], you are mixing your Jewishness [with Islam]. I shall build it at the forefront of the mosque, as to us belong the forefronts of the mosques

Explore2xmore:
I put the question back to the questuoner when he asked about مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ and مَهَرَ to answer describing it's relevance to the discussion.

You later striked this through without answering or saying why only saying corrected. I didn't mark what wasn't being examined and you replaced with أُجُورَهُنَّ.

Do feel free to tell or explain. Appreciate.

There are four questions I posted : are you saying that the perfect answer for a question is to ask the questioner the same questions?

My Basis
1. Question 1
The Qur'an 4:24 used the word أُجُورَهُنَّ rather than مهر.
So, I asked you the question:
What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. The Qur'an 4:24 used the word مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ
So, I asked the question
What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

The other two questions are straight forward
3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu ?

No temporary marriage in Islam. All you have of it is from the Jahiliyah period and maybe early Islam.
I am not very clear on reports that some people try to validate this claim and we know there are such contractual marriages in society. Do such contract societal marriage carry the name Mutah?

What break dance? I have further educated you about the non reliability of hadith even the ones with the classification of authentic or Sahih. These often rely on the chain of narration and don't bother as much with the content of the hadith.

You that asked the question in arabic should answer. I will love to show you something and probably learn from you.

It is against my belief to explain Quran based on hadith. There will be numerous hadith which are more of people's opinions on the Quran. Sahih, Hassan, Daif or Maudu are irrelevant as these are opinions and you have seen these collections having contrary hadith so tell me what then is the use?

TenQ:

Is marrying with a temporary contract not a kind of Islamic Marriage?
Is this not what is called Mutah?

If you had answered my questions, you would not be doing break-dance about the thread.


Questions :
1. What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?

You are too anxious!
I have answered you in my post before this.
Okay let me part answer your updated question, which verse of the Quran has مهر in it?

TenQ:

There are four questions I posted : are you saying that the perfect answer for a question is to ask the questioner the same questions?

My Basis
1. Question 1
The Qur'an 4:24 used the word أُجُورَهُنَّ rather than مهر.
So, I asked you the question:
What is the difference between
أُجُورَهُنَّ and مهر?

2. The Qur'an 4:24 used the word مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ
So, I asked the question
What is مُسْتَمْتِعِينَ ?

The other two questions are straight forward
3. Is it untrue that Qur'an 5:87 is related to Sahih al-Bukhari 5075, Muslim 1404a and subsequently Tafsir by Ibn ‘Abbâs and Ibn Kathir on Qur'an 4:24?

4. Is hadith by Bukhari 5075 and Muslim 1404a Sahih or Daif or Maudu?

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No temporary marriage in Islam. All you have of it is from the Jahiliyah period and maybe early Islam.
I am not very clear on reports that some people try to validate this claim and we know there are such contractual marriages in society. Do such contract societal marriage carry the name Mutah?

What break dance? I have further educated you about the non reliability of hadith even the ones with the classification of authentic or Sahih. These often rely on the chain of narration and don't bother as much with the content of the hadith.

You that asked the question in arabic should answer. I will love to show you something and probably learn from you.

It is against my belief to explain Quran based on hadith. There will be numerous hadith which are more of people's opinions on the Quran. Sahih, Hassan, Daif or Maudu are irrelevant as these are opinions and you have seen these collections having contrary hadith so tell me what then is the use?

It is impossible for you to speak the truth with respect to your religion.


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


This also found in

Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”

You are not a Qur'an only Muslim yet you don't explain the Qur'an with the hadith. I So, non of why reference the hadiths in the first place?

Did you see ANYTHING like Contract of Temporary Marriage in the two Sahih Hadiths?
This Mutah was Authorised By Allah and his prophet! Your prophet banned it then allowed it then banned it then allowed it And till he died, Mutah was still in practice till the second Khalif finally banned it.



All you have shown me is the unreliability of your hadiths narrated by Muslims, guess what compiled by Muslims and used by Muslims. How then can we trust anything from the mouth of Muslims.

You don't even trust yourselves to speak the truth! SMH!


FINALLY
On the title of your Original Post:

KAB AL AHBAR The Prominent Jew Tenq Follows And Fabrication Of Hadith -
1. This is completely untrue. Is it possible to follow a person you don't even know?
2. I did not know ANYTHING about Kab al-Ahbar till you opened this your thread
3. You could not even show that any significant number of Hadiths relative to your available hadiths are by Kab al-Ahbar
4. Kab al-Ahbar was a Jew who converted to Islam and DIED as a Muslim




Please let's call it a day!

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And you rely on what neither Allah nor his prophet say muslims should refer to?

Perhaps it's a lot like Paul's encounter with Jesus pbuh after his passing that significantly controls the new testament.
What irrefutable proof is there that Paul indeed met Jesus? Did Jesus appear to the living apostles to affirm the status of Paul?

Paul's meeting of Jesus was first verified by the disciples of Jesus before he was finally accepted into the fold! Who verified the meeting of Mohammed with the said angel Gabriel? I really want an answer to this question.

Also, your Quran and your hadith are your holy books. Do you now want to deny your hadith because they're not the sayings of Allah and Mohammed? Are your hadith now filthy books?

Thirdly, keep your pbuh to yourself while referring to Christ. He is the Prince of Peace. He needs no such prayers. Mohammed needs such prayers as his fate was actually uncertain to him. He was even afraid to face death. Unfortunately for him, prayers don't work for the dead. Once you die, your fate is sealed.

TenQ:

Muslims will throw Allah, the Qur'an and Mohammed under the bus to protect Islam by hook or crook: and they don't care a hoot about doing it!
No conscience!
The truth doesn't matter with them!

Their conscience is seared with hot iron. Their ultimate goal is to make allah and Mohammed look good. The fate of their own souls do not matter to them.

FxMasterz:


Their conscience is seared with hot iron. Their ultimate goal is to make allah and Mohammed look good. The fate of their own souls do not matter to them.

He refused to answer my questions.

He has denied his hadiths now and want to turn himself into Qur'an only Muslim!