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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Regex: 3:06pm On Sep 21, 2023
Acidosis:
E no go ever better for the Nigerian government sha grin

You are paying subsidy and your people still buy fuel for 650 per litre? Awon ex-CORNvicts.
No be Nigerians vote them?
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by BIZNess123(m): 3:24pm On Sep 21, 2023
lexy2014:
That isn't what I asked you.

Do you mean the strategy is to be making blunders left right centre?

What is the strategy?
Strategies usually have set backs
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by grandstar(m): 3:25pm On Sep 21, 2023
Kukutente23:
Was it not the same subsidy removal and "floating" of exchange rate that spiked inflation?
Why do you enjoy making funny excuses for govt?
You can't have it all. You can't devalue your currency and still expect inflation to be tamed
You made a good point.

However, inflation was already high before Tinubu took office. The inflationary environment made it easy for price increases to be easily passed on to consumers without restraint.

Sanusi revealed that Buhari led CBN printed 22 trillion Naira.

In a much tamer inflationary environment, businesses and government would assume some or even all the price increases. It won't be passed over to the consumers, keeping inflation in check

The Swiss franc may lose 15% of its value and prices would still stay relatively static. The Norwegian currency lost about 27% of its value when oil prices collapsed in 2015, yet did not lead to a hike in prices.

Also, ending the fuel subsidy and ensuring the Naira value was market driven should have lead to a rise in the Naira's value. Rather, it went South. There's market failure somewhere.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by DoxxAnon: 3:26pm On Sep 21, 2023
Subsidy is gone!!!

Then you reversed yourself. That’s what you get when your tongue works faster than your brain
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Donaldoni: 3:40pm On Sep 21, 2023
Poanan:
What is swap what is earnings. Don't say what u don't know. The part that is swapped does not earn dollars
So how does subsidy come in in that arrangement. Does NNPC swap all its crude for PMS so that it has nothing from which to earn dollarshuh
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Treadway: 3:47pm On Sep 21, 2023
LordAdam16:
It is a combination of reasons.

The bottom line though is that he naively expected the FX rate to fall at first to its current rate, then strengthen over time to 600-650.
If that had happened, we'd be having a different conversation.
Obviously that did not happen, so he bears full responsibility for the error.

-Lord
I said this multiple times here...see the most recent below in August here

Treadway:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-09/nigerian-naira-drops-to-record-as-black-market-dollar-rate-soars

We warned and warned, but y'all didn't listen. The chimps up there have learnt nothing from 2015/2016 when Buhari made this same shitty call to remove subsidy and float naira in one fell swoop in a country like Nigeria. Now they have successfully FAILED, yet again. A move from officiall/parallel rates of 450/720 to 750/1000(in a few days) is a very successful FAILURE. Smh
You simply do not remove subsidy and float the naira at the same gaddem time. They attempted the exact thing in 2015/16 and it didn't work. But the leaders no gree learn from history, they and some Nairaland economists from Harvardus. Shioor.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Treadway: 3:51pm On Sep 21, 2023
Eriokanmi:
Oga oo. Aren't you tired of being deceived? You guys tagged the information fake news a few weeks ago when the information first leaked out. Nigeria won't move forward if you keep defending this party's lies.

I remember in 2015, buhari said subsidy was a scam and he'd never pay it. Later, he begged Nigerians to be patient as things would soon improve so, we should allow him increase pump price as he's not paying subsidy.

Later, he increased it again and people began to react. They now said they were paying something but not subsidy per se. You should stop defending this madness cos you'd not be spared in the consequences of their lies.

When some of us condemned the sudden and utter removal of the subsidy when Tinubu came, you guys said it was the right move and now, we're suffering the consequences. Meanwhile Angola, another oil rich nation only did partial removal but before they did, they had provided palliatives like gej did years back. You know what the dollar is saying now
bros, the mistake you are making here is assuming you are discussing this with a reasonable person. If something is black, it is black and only capable of being black. End of!
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by vannessa7(f): 3:58pm On Sep 21, 2023
This is a welcome development, a flexible government, not a rigid die hard dictator who will not change his mind no matter what . Tinubu is sensitive to the need of the populace, a listening president, I'm sure he will do more adjustment as he gets well settled in his role as the president and as the challenges comes up. One of the greatest quality of a good leader is flexibility and listening ear.
As for all the audio president on here spewing trash they believe they are the only one with brain and can fix everything if elected as president but until they get there then they will realise leadership of a country is not beans, I wonder why they think anyone will deliberately make policies that will not work. Only those who wear the shoe knows where it pinches. Afteral it's partial subsidy not full scale for those who prefer no subsidy at all.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Nobody: 4:06pm On Sep 21, 2023
vannessa7:
This is a welcome development, a flexible government, not a rigid die hard dictator who will not change his mind no matter what . Tinubu is sensitive to the need of the populace, a listening president, I'm sure he will do more adjustment as he gets well settled in his role as the president and as the challenges come up. One of the greatest quality of a good leader is flexibility and listening ear.
As for all the audio president on here spewing trash they believe they are the only one with brain and can fix everything if elected as president but until they get their then they will realise leadership of a country is not beans, I wonder why they think anyone will deliberately make policies that will not work. Only those who wear the shoe know where it pinches. Afteral it's partial subsidy not full scale for those who prefer no subsidy at all.
Vanessa7, shebi una dey shout say subsidy is gone forever ni?
Wetin come happen again?
When people dey give informed analyses based on experiential knowledge, understanding and wisdom, una dey yab Dem. No be so?
Kwantiniu!!!!
grin grin grin grin
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by vannessa7(f): 4:19pm On Sep 21, 2023
FOJEM:
Vanessa7, shebi una dey shout say subsidy is gone forever ni?
Wetin come happen again?
When people dey give informed analyses based on experiential knowledge, understanding and wisdom, una dey yab Dem. No be so?
Kwantiniu!!!!
grin grin grin grin
I never shouted that subsidy is gone forever o. Do you prefer him to leave it like that so that fuel price will be at par with dollar, at least now the debt incurred by the nation will not be as much as it would have been if the subsidy was not removed at all. He wasn't even the one who removed the it in the first place. My own inference from all this is that we have a president that cares. Lobatan
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by maasoap(m): 4:20pm On Sep 21, 2023
EmirofAfonjaz:
Send your worthless advice to your support base of agbado idiats.
Where did you see advice? Is your brain freezing or in sleeping mode?

I dont need your foolish patronage..spits
You must be thinking that you worth something for being quoted. Lol
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by maasoap(m): 4:26pm On Sep 21, 2023
grandstar:
You made a good point.

However, inflation was already high before Tinubu took office. The inflationary environment made it easy for price increases to be easily passed on to consumers without restraint.

Sanusi revealed that Buhari led CBN printed 22 trillion Naira.

In a much tamer inflationary environment, businesses and government would assume some or even all the price increases. It won't be passed over to the consumers, keeping inflation in check

The Swiss franc may lose 15% of its value and prices would still stay relatively static. The Norwegian currency lost about 27% of its value when oil prices collapsed in 2015, yet did not lead to a hike in prices.

Also, ending the fuel subsidy and ensuring the Naira value was market driven should have lead to a rise in the Naira's value. Rather, it went South. There's market failure somewhere .
Currency traders and that includes many Nigerians living abroad. Only few people understand that.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by LordAdam16: 4:27pm On Sep 21, 2023
Treadway:
I said this multiple times here...see the most recent below in August here



You simply do not remove subsidy and float the naira at the same gaddem time. They attempted the exact thing in 2015/16 and it didn't work. But the leaders no gree learn from history, they and some Nairaland economists from Harvardus. Shioor.
Timing is only a part of it.
There are a slew of modalities he had to set up before implementing both policies.
You don't set the cart before the horse.

When GEJ sought to remove subsidy in 2012, we didn't have FX woes.
So I don't know what possessed Tinubu.

Buhari had his famous, "I belong to everybody and I belong to nobody".
And Oga wanted to one up him.
Now he's in the mud.

-Lord
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by EkelediliBuhari: 4:28pm On Sep 21, 2023
Donaldoni:
The loan is a flop. Only 250m got out.

You guys are spead BS in the name of news a lot.
What’s the meaning of this crap you just typed “$250m got out”?

$3bn was approved and was communicated to everyone. Do you expect them to inform the country when the alert drops?
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by maasoap(m): 4:28pm On Sep 21, 2023
Acidosis:
E no go ever better for the Nigerian government sha grin

You are paying subsidy and your people still buy fuel for 650 per litre? Awon ex-CORNvicts.
The silent reintroduction of subsidy is what made the price to remain at current price. They are not paying subsidy to reduce the price but to prevent the price from going higher than it is at the moment.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by RealEmilokan: 4:29pm On Sep 21, 2023
Who would say Nigeria isn't an interesting place? Definitely not a place for sane people.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by blackboy(m): 4:43pm On Sep 21, 2023
Hmmm I pray it’s a lie. buhhari and Odinbajo May we not have a repeat
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Adolfnigeria: 4:44pm On Sep 21, 2023
expect the naira to fall, because currently the CBN is leaderless.

interest rates are at 5% in america, making it profitable to FDI (Foreign direct investors) , to have a preference for dollar dominated assets. I expect USD to keep moving out of the country.

The suspension of the MPC meeting is also ominous. CBN is now leaderless, no one will make a decision until the government confirms the new board members. this time without any direction nor action, is a loss for Nigeria. I expect a naira crash...
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by EmirofAfonjaz: 4:48pm On Sep 21, 2023
LIONs don't mingle with GOATs.
They don't eat grass...they devour flesh...

So stay on your worthless lane.... cool



maasoap:
Where did you see advice? Is your brain freezing or in sleeping mode?


You must be thinking that you worth something for being quoted. Lol
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by ChrisP92(m): 5:15pm On Sep 21, 2023
I understand there will be challenges Ma. But if d govt is willing, oga dangote go humble.
I nor know sha
OneCandleAway:
If you're dangote will you sit back and watch modular refineries emerge? Too much competition that you cant control.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by ChrisP92(m): 5:18pm On Sep 21, 2023
Well, this is my thinking having worked upstream sector. I may not know d whole profitability bullshit that goes on in d downstream sector.
So educate me sir, why is it not profitable
mrvitalis:
You think modular refinery would be profitable and people never invest?

Lmao you can't make profit with local refineries until fuel sale at least $1.2 ... So that's 1200

Sorry but that's the truth
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Jagabanarmy: 5:18pm On Sep 21, 2023
happney65:
When we told them it cannot work,they were getting angry and tearing their bras on us. Now they don return am again

As it is nonesense in 2012,so is the same in 2023. The government cannot be pushing their ineptitude to the people.

But No,very enlightened and educated people will be supporting nonesense.

Shey una don see it's all a ruse now

Nonesense and Tinubu
Yes it can't work without a functional refineries and stable FX. I said it. I never supported the removal when the president removed it. we must have functional refineries before any removal
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Nobody: 5:41pm On Sep 21, 2023
EmirofAfonjaz:
LIONs don't mingle with GOATs.
They don't eat grass...they devour flesh...

So stay on your worthless lane.... cool
Chai!
See uppercut!!!!!
grin grin grin grin

Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Obaofaba: 5:50pm On Sep 21, 2023
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The below quote clearly defines these retards:
“Many are destined to reason wrongly, others not to reason at all and some to persecute those who do reason" - Voltaire
Why is this lazy man mentioning me and plenty others?

Are we pressing your neck?

No r i p from me if you die doing what's not matter to your life.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Tianamen1: 6:08pm On Sep 21, 2023
baralatie:
With the devaluation of the naira.it meant the fg earns more naira to ots purse
What is the additional Naira been used for?

Most likely converted into Dollars to buy more cars, phones and clothes. It's the same old world, just a different day.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Growing(m): 6:12pm On Sep 21, 2023
I welcome back the subsidy. They should subsidise more self.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Diligence: 6:33pm On Sep 21, 2023
Can any good thing ever come from APC?

First, they deceived Nigerians & fought against removal of subsidy in 2012 with all the blueprint from Okojo Iweala & Sanusi of CBN.

11 years later, APC /Buhari & APC/Tinubu can't fix Nigeria!

Just return the Stolen Mandate
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by lexy2014: 6:36pm On Sep 21, 2023
BIZNess123:
Strategies usually have set backs
Do you mean the strategy is to be making blunders left right centre?

What is the strategy?
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by NSK4U(m): 6:39pm On Sep 21, 2023
Those who think that Tinubu would fight corruption with sincerity are the most deluded species of mankind occupying the space that are meant for sane people
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by starstaz(m): 6:58pm On Sep 21, 2023
Dreal1247:
One chance Government. Why not assist local refineries? Why not encourage modular refineries?
💎💎

People like us , without commiting the sin of slothful induction fallacy , have advocated to allow a local inclined solution to our alibi in the form of enhancement of local practitioner to produce for local consumption in the interim and we allow NNPC or Dangote cabal to do their refinery in a rigmarole fashion till when they are ready to produce one cup of refined product for the country. This idea of supporting local content can even stimulate competition for NNPC and Dangote cabal. What do we get _ a blocked ear government that keep romancing in insanity. Now dollar to Naira is 1k, Subsidy has returned, the gain we suppose get from crude oil sales in international market cum from price surges had eroded. The economy is in Chaos and fracturedly cowered and frozen.

Allow Local refinery to breathe!!!!
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Acidosis(m): 7:17pm On Sep 21, 2023
maasoap:
The silent reintroduction of subsidy is what made the price to remain at current price. They are not paying subsidy to reduce the price but to prevent the price from going higher than it is at the moment.
That is the deception we are talking about. You removed subsidy only for the economy to collapse. Now you are reintroducing subsidy in a depressed economy, to do what exactly?

The so called removal of subsidy without a defence mechanism is the main reason we are here again.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Brushstrokes20: 7:18pm On Sep 21, 2023
Another propaganda busted!👀👀👀👀
# all motion, NO MOVEMENT govt! 😂😂😁😁🤣🤣
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