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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:02pm On Sep 21, 2023
crystalmoon:
there are some details about him that I don't want to share online
No one can help your friend but himself. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by BABAawoo47: 9:03pm On Sep 21, 2023
ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
grin
Me na only kwesion I wan ask ooo

1. Who will succeed Pa Adeboye if he is gone.
2. Who will succeed Pa Kumuyi when he is gone.
3. Who will succeed Pa Oyedepo when he is gone.
4. Who will succeed Pa Okotie when he is gone.
5. Who will succeed Oyakhilome when he is gone?

Now let's check this:

Bishop Benson Idahosa dies, his wife took over.
T. B Joshua dies, his wife took over
And now Odukoya dies and his son took over.

Is church now a family inheritance? What is the stake of members of the church in the affairs of things?
after takeover, the church sef gradually lose it's popularity. Fact is churches are not what they are in 20th century beginnings. Churches now hold crazy amount of money to just hand over to someone else

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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Jaycee07(m): 9:03pm On Sep 21, 2023
Janosky:


"In the 19th century, Charles Haddon Spurgeon stated that Jesus is "the true Michael" and "the only Archangel."

Martin Luther said that too.

Nah this point sweet me pass cheesy

I completely support that view. It’s purely scriptural. Interestingly the only verse in the Bible the binds the two designations ‘ Michael the Archangel’ is Jude vs 9.
The word Archangel as used in the scriptures is singular, and it means chief Angel or Principal Angel.
Thus there can’t be two Arch Angels.
Both in his prehuman life and after his resurrection and ascension to heaven as an immortal spirit creature, Jesus Christ alone hold that designation.

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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by NoToPile: 9:03pm On Sep 21, 2023
I am a bit indifferent about this matter.


All I know is pastors kids and wives make a whole lot of sacrifices, a lot of times the comfort of church members translates to a lot of discomfort and sacrifices on the pastors immediate family. Pastors need to do more especially with their immediate family, the family should not always pay the price for ministry. Lots of pastors kids are in pain, they carry scars to adulthood.

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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by BJanta: 9:08pm On Sep 21, 2023
seuncyrus:
The first time I heard that was on twitter. It sparked a debate and I was so confused . Isn't he an actor ? Was the Church willed to him or how exactly does that work ? So I got to know that he's a pastor too, He actually pastors the cave church in Lekki with his sister Tolu

But I still don't understand this Pastor with long dread , tattoos and ear piercings . Maybe I'm just old fashioned. If he's genuinely called I pray the Lord strengthens him

I'm like you. Everytime I imagine him on the altar saying, ' Praise the LORD ' , my heart skips a beat. May the LORD forgive you and me in JESUS' Name. Because you CAN'T just always understand the move of GOD. Remember Jephthae, remember Apostle Paul.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Thomasankara(m): 9:09pm On Sep 21, 2023
[/color]na u Sabi, what I mean is anyone paying tithe is practising Judaism and not Christianity and God is going to judge the person on the template of Judaism and not Christianity[color=#770077]
Kobojunkie:
Order of which levites? Una go just dey open mouth yakata dey spew crap. Which of your many mogs, GOs, Popes, GBs, Bishops, etc., has the blood of Levi, Jacob's son, flowing through their veins? undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by OneCandleAway(f): 9:11pm On Sep 21, 2023
ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
grin
Me na only kwesion I wan ask ooo

1. Who will succeed Pa Adeboye if he is gone.
2. Who will succeed Pa Kumuyi when he is gone.
3. Who will succeed Pa Oyedepo when he is gone.
4. Who will succeed Pa Okotie when he is gone.
5. Who will succeed Oyakhilome when he is gone?

Now let's check this:

Bishop Benson Idahosa dies, his wife took over.
T. B Joshua dies, his wife took over
And now Odukoya dies and his son took over.

Is church now a family inheritance? What is the stake of members of the church in the affairs of things?

To answer your question:

1. Adeboyes father didn't establish RCCG. It was. Someone else and since the man didn't even give his kids any percentage, adeboye dares not chose his child to succeed him.

2. Kumuyi started the church and his sons are already being trained so might or might not be successor but will have a huge stake in decision making.

3. Oyedepo has already announced his child will be next general overseer. And those pastors not ok with this have left. So everyone there is fine with the decision. He founded the church with a partner that controls northern region and that one also has kids ready to continue after him.

4. Okotie, I don't know if he has kids but believe he will steal enough so his kids don't really need the church later in life.

5. Oyakilome has 2 daughters (that we know of) who might not become His successor but has managed to place all his whole family members in different lucrative centers. Siblings, cousins, e.t.c even his neice that married blossom the actor is a pastor, if you see her chubby face you'll see oyakilome there no need for dna.

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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by firearcher: 9:13pm On Sep 21, 2023
Look into the scriptures and find the pattern God followed.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by hardon1(m): 9:13pm On Sep 21, 2023
If I can remember...
Eli was a priest of Israel... His Two sons hophni and phinehas were trained as priests as well.

If they hadnt died as a result of their own misbehaviour, they would have taken over after their father eli

Priesthood in buble old testament to some extent also followed family line.

So It's not different from today's practice
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Validated: 9:13pm On Sep 21, 2023
mastermaestro:

Use your brain nau. Adeboye's children cannot succeed him. RCCG has a succession template, and nowhere is familial tie a criterion.
Abegiiii, who has he announced as his successor? He is already in his 80s, naturally a successor should have been named.
EYENECK no get template? When time comes template will become tembowl.
I am redeemed by the way, I know what I am saying.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by VBCampaign: 9:14pm On Sep 21, 2023
BadEnglish:
@op, are in anyway related to Aisha Yesufu?
the author is not related to Aisha Yesufu.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by seuncyrus(m): 9:17pm On Sep 21, 2023
BJanta:


I'm like you. Everytime I imagine him on the altar saying, ' Praise the LORD ' , my heart skips a beat. May the LORD forgive you and me in JESUS' Name. Because you CAN'T just always understand the move of GOD. Remember Jephthae, remember Apostle Paul.

Honestly I don't get it . I usually feel that a pastor should actually "look the part" you get . But if people get saved through his messages , God be praised
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:17pm On Sep 21, 2023
Thomasankara:
[/color]na u Sabi, what I mean is anyone paying tithe is practising Judaism and not Christianity and God is going to judge the person on the template of Judaism and not Christianity[color=#770077]
The statement in bold is impossible. undecided

First of all, God never gave men religion. Rather what He gave men was His Law and His one and only mandate to them was obedience of His Law. That man chose to construct religion using the name of God in no way means the religion then is associated with God. No, it just means God set themselves against God by way of Religion, and God already disavowed that which you know as the religion of Judaism since the time of the prophets — Ezekiel 34.
Second, Jesus Christ also never gave men Religion but rather He gave to His followers God's Law— the Gospel aka the God News— and urged obedience to His Law. So, even your Religion of Christianity, Jesus Christ condemned as doctrines and traditions of men — lies— that are against Him - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 & John 10 vs 1 - 16. undecided

All these religions do is set people far far away from the Truth of God as explained by Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by daygee12: 9:21pm On Sep 21, 2023
Why should a church be owned by 1 person? U & i make up a church but the most Pastors see it as a way to make money for themselves
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Alliswell248: 9:21pm On Sep 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Indeed! This is why on every corner you turn in Nigeria, there are at least 2 or 3 church businesses but you can easily count on just your hands alone the number of factories, manufacturing plants, etc., in that entire town. Continue encouraging people to set up their own church noise businesses! undecided

I repeat......they are not accountable to you.
You can join the business as your claimed.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:22pm On Sep 21, 2023
Alliswell248:
I repeat......they are not accountable to you. You can join the business as your claimed.
Indeed! This is why on every corner you turn in Nigeria, there are at least 2 or 3 church businesses but you can easily count on just your hands alone the number of factories, manufacturing plants, etc., in that entire town. Continue encouraging people to set up their own church noise businesses! undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:23pm On Sep 21, 2023
daygee12:
Why should a church be owned by 1 person? U & i make up a church but the most Pastors see it as a way to make money for themselves
Stop deceiving yourselves! You give away your hard-earned money for free to the ones who really own the church business. You are neither partners nor shareholders in the business. Just blind customers. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by HRMK: 9:26pm On Sep 21, 2023
what is not so clear here is if a #yesufu is the rightful individual to take up a case that involves pastor/church?yesufu is strictly a muslim name!get busy with your muslim ccolleagues!let the christians take up their pastors!!
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Thomasankara(m): 9:27pm On Sep 21, 2023
[/color]okay I hear you[color=#770077]
Kobojunkie:
The statement in bold is impossible. undecided

First of all, God never gave men religion. Rather what He gave men was His Law and His one and only mandate to them was obedience of His Law. That man chose to construct religion using the name of God in no way means the religion then is associated with God. No, it just means God set themselves against God by way of Religion, and God already disavowed that which you know as the religion of Judaism since the time of the prophets — Ezekiel 34.
Second, Jesus Christ also never gave men Religion but rather He gave to His followers God's Law— the Gospel aka the God News— and urged obedience to His Law. So, even your Religion of Christianity, Jesus Christ condemned as doctrines and traditions of men — lies— that are against Him - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 & John 10 vs 1 - 16. undecided

All these religions do is set people far far away from the Truth of God as explained by Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by daygee12: 9:28pm On Sep 21, 2023
OneCandleAway:


Relax. The person you quoted probably isn't aware it was another man that founded RCCG and named Adeboye his successor. Therefore Adeboye cannot name his children successor because nor bi him papa start RCCG

If it were to be Adeboye that founded the church he would have willed it to his Son. Pa Akindayomi knows a church is U & I that was the reason he gave Adeboye the mantle but Adeboye is now ready to let go of the church when the church constitution clearly says all Pastors should retire at certain age

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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by daygee12: 9:32pm On Sep 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Stop deceiving yourselves! You give away your hard-earned money for free to the ones who really own the church business. You are neither partners nor shareholders in the business. Just blind customers. undecided

Make God open people's eye to see these Pentecostal Pastors are just out there to eat church money and nothing more. That Oyedepo can't make heaven
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:33pm On Sep 21, 2023
daygee12:
■ Make God open people's eye to see these Pentecostal Pastors are just out there to eat church money and nothing more. That Oyedepo can't make heaven
Heaven no concern any of them as their focus has always been amassing fame and fortune here on earth, Just as Jesus Christ said of those who are against Him.. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by MrAndre07: 9:41pm On Sep 21, 2023
mastermaestro:


Use your brain nau. Adeboye's children cannot succeed him. RCCG has a succession template, and nowhere is familial tie a criterion.
That is because Adeboye didn't found RCCG. And his ascension was not heriditary so not familial.
Others - who are the founders - practice such familial succession.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:41pm On Sep 21, 2023
GanagiBitrus:
No single man that has laboured to grow a church to a level where tithes/offerings run into millions of Naira, will just hand over the church to an outsider. He will always prefer his family member.

That's the reality.
well this is why some persons prefer other places succession is via inheritance like Catholic Anglican etc... Even in business there are cases children don't succeed parents but can still benefit.. what's important is keeping the legacy... There are pastors who were there when the ministry started to...
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:44pm On Sep 21, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
well this is why some persons prefer other places succession is via inheritance like Catholic Anglican etc... Even in business there are cases children don't succeed parents but can still benefit.. what's important is keeping the legacy... There are pastors who were there when the ministry started to...
Succession is via inheritance? Even the popes practiced similar nepotism for a while until the entire establishment got too big for one man and his family to even dream of managing. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:44pm On Sep 21, 2023
VBCampaign:


The author does not query sons succeeding fathers. The author thinks it right and wholesome - all things being equal. The author thinks that the self promoting spirit of Pentecostal churches however leads almost inevitably to churches running as family businesses. Truth is that if these churches were sacrificial and serving humanity, it will not be the business that most of them have become, that warrant family members succeeding themselves.
u Sabi summary... that's why more churches ll come up cos pple ll want to establish their own

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Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:49pm On Sep 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Succession is via inheritance? Even the popes practiced similar nepotism for a while until the entire establishment got too big for one man and his family to even dream of managing. undecided
as it is Toda churches like Catholic Anglican isn't via inheritance... Some churches it is even by voting self...
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 9:52pm On Sep 21, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
as it is Toda churches like Catholic Anglican isn't via inheritance... Some churches it is even by voting self...
...All the businesses you mentioned have their history of the same
Nepotism was first practiced, and that to a very considerable degree, by pope Nicholas III (q.v.), towards the close of the 13th century; reproachfully he was called the patriarch of papal nepotism.
All of them na the same dem be. undecided
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:54pm On Sep 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
...All the businesses you mentioned have their history of the sameAll of them na the same dem be. undecided
nepotism how...
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by soccerlite: 10:00pm On Sep 21, 2023
So you are preacher - oops

I thought you are a religious critic

I usually read your articles, they confuse more than preaching the gospel



Surely you be controversial preacher
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by Kobojunkie: 10:02pm On Sep 21, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
nepotism how...
undecided
nep·o·tism

the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs.
Re: When A Son Should Not Succeed A Father By Deji Yesufu by soccerlite: 10:05pm On Sep 21, 2023
mastermaestro:


Use your brain nau. Adeboye's children cannot succeed him. RCCG has a succession template, and nowhere is familial tie a criterion.


What's rccg succession template

Baba go refused to retire when other pastor are retired at 70

You better emancipate yourself and focus more on Christ than one g.o

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