AlexBells:

Keep creating more confusion for yourself, is there any people in Nigeria called Cross River, have you done a study of who makes up the Akwa/Cross area, where does Ogoni, Isoko, Uhrobo, Etc stand in this, or you just dream up another stupid amalgamation that doesn't take account of the feelings of native people. Besides in this your writing you already admired up to 5 in south alone yet the North is over 5 times more diverse than the south, travel abeg and stop these emotional write up talk only about Igbo if you are Igboid and let the rest decide who they are

Akwa -cross is the name of ethnic nation
Ogoni is among the 2%
Isoko and uhrobo are ediod na it's easy

mrvitalis:

Akwa -cross is the name of ethnic nation
Ogoni is among the 2%
Isoko and uhrobo are ediod na it's easy

Oga stop this public embarrassment abeg, stop dividing and ceding people, I ask again have you travelled to This Akwacross area, do you know the people called Abang, Ibibio to mention but just few, stop this embarrassing display abeg

AlexBells:

Oga stop this public embarrassment abeg, stop dividing and ceding people, I ask again have you travelled to This Akwacross area, do you know the people called Abang, Ibibio to mention but just few, stop this embarrassing display abeg

Place I lived for years sure
Annang, Ibibio, Oron, eket, ibeono, obollo, Erik, ugap, are all called Akwa cross

They share similar culture, similar language unique to them

They have more in common within themselves than any other people

They even call themselves Akwa Cross

onumadu:
Funny thread.

Funny in the sense that you have Yoruba (as usual) dictating that South East and South south are never to form one region. lol
Whoever gave them the authority to dictate what happens in regions outside of their own.

And then one funny person up there is saying that the sit at home is the referendum.
Apparently all the protests by ALL south eastern leaders about it means nothing.

The final truth about which political formations would emerge from Nigeria is that nobody knows what the maps will look like after Nigeria collapses.

Europe is a good example of this...

European territories have been swapped countless times from the middle ages till date.
For example, Russia is keeping parts of Germany, while Ukraine is keeping parts of Poland, Hungary, etc,,, and so forth.

I pity groups that are not ready when the shit hits the fan.

A lot of my Igbo brothers commenting here are totally clueless and letting others foist their agenda without challenge.

That cluelessness is how the south east became the only geopolitical zone in Nigeria not connected to the sea or another country.

That is why we Igbo will not allow such people to dictate our future: Sit at home or not.

I don't think it is clueless for the south East not to be connected to sea, and in fact South East is, however south east was created to be an Igbo region, forget about the stupid propaganda of today, Zik was very influential during the last state creations and remember Shehu Shehu shagari and alex ekwueme, the minorities in the east complained a lot in the first Republic why, some things happen the way it is bad it is great that way, unlike the west, the west, the east was more diverse and it is treat that we Igbos have a distinct region to ourselves, if you are worried about sea access we are still part of Nigeria, we have the higher inland water so sea access is very much there what we need for now is production cause if you open the sea without export then you would be an importers which is bad

mrvitalis:

Place I lived for years sure
Annang, Ibibio, Oron, eket, ibeono, obollo, Erik, ugap, are all called Akwa cross

They share similar culture, similar language unique to them

They have more in common within themselves than any other people

They even call themselves Akwa Cross

Then still you need a Refendum to decide if those people you mentioned truly want to lose their identity to another amalgam that's due process don't lump them without their approval

the 6 zones is better. Each region should have control of their resources while a certain fraction goes to the federal government e.g 70/30. Regions should also control their security stuff like Regional,state, Local govt police, state army reserves units comprised of residents and citizens of that state. Things will improve for the better. The politicians will have no excuse to give that FAAC can only pay salaries, there would be accountability and security would be grassroot. No more Abuja excuse, no more police intimidation because the police officer will be either from that region, state, or local council. Our culture would be respected and we would leave in peace knowing what law obtains in each region, like we have in sharia. you see because Nigeria is a multi-ethnic country development can only start from the ground-up, thr top-down approach is not working because it doesn't comform with some others value system.

So long the SS is not paired with the SE am all for it.

paxx:
What do you guys think?

AlexBells:

I don't think it is clueless for the south East not to be connected to sea, and in fact South East is, however south east was created to be an Igbo region, forget about the stupid propaganda of today, Zik was very influential during the last state creations and remember Shehu Shehu shagari and alex ekwueme, the minorities in the east complained a lot in the first Republic why, some things happen the way it is bad it is great that way, unlike the west, the west, the east was more diverse and it is treat that we Igbos have a distinct region to ourselves, if you are worried about sea access we are still part of Nigeria, we have the higher inland water so sea access is very much there what we need for now is production cause if you open the sea without export then you would be an importers which is bad

You are clueless and I can prove it immediately...

Is North Central ethnically homogeneous (ie one ethnic group)?
Is North East ethnically homogeneous?
Is North West ethnically homogeneous?
Even South West is not homogeneous (never mind the propaganda, Lagos is not "Yoruba" but "Yoruboid" and so forth).
And of course South south is NOT ethnically homogeneous.

All the zones mentioned above have one thing in common: each has either direct access to the sea, or direct access to another country.

South East is the only zone with neither.

And South East is the only ethnically homogeneous zone.
Why is that?

You people who don't have any training in strategic thinking should not be commenting or leading opinion on Igbo affairs because you know nothing.

Nnamdi Kanu alone has more competence in strategic thinking than Zik and Ekwueme combined. Quote me.

AlexBells:

Then when we come for lands over there, be ready to defend it, die the capping already. Your prayer is that Nigeria remains

Chest beating cannibals that have never won any wars in their miserable history of OSU existence. never organized any civilization till the white man came. When the time comes for Nigeria to divide, sub humans will beg Niger Delta for favorable terms to access the sea.

OSU

onumadu:


You are clueless and I can prove it immediately...

Is North Central ethnically homogeneous (ie one ethnic group)?
Is North East ethnically homogeneous?
Is North West ethnically homogeneous?
Even South West is not homogeneous (never mind the propaganda, Lagos is not "Yoruba" but "Yoruboid" and so forth).
And of course South south is NOT ethnically homogeneous.

All the zones mentioned above have one thing in common: each has either direct access to the sea, or direct access to another country.

South East is the only zone with neither.

And South East is the only ethnically homogeneous zone.
Why is that?

You people who don't have any training in strategic thinking should not be commenting or leading opinion on Igbo affairs because you know nothing.

Nnamdi Kanu alone has more competence in strategic thinking than Zik and Ekwueme combined. Quote me.

I think if you are a Kanu fan, Great but the way you throw the word clueless around pass you easily as a stack fool, what was your grandfather doing when Zik, Ekwurme and co was being clueless, I think this I know it all is what kept you were you are, since you know a lot why not take a step at leadership and see where it gets you. What is with having boundary with another country, would that improve your production, you said south south has this, are the Igbos not part of south south.

Have you ever studied the geography of the south East, to ensure that it has no sea access, the seaports in Lagos, isn’t it built in a lagoon, was it a direct seaport, is there any direct sea port in Nigeria, do you know the process of state creation from the time of the East central? Where you there when Gowon started to create the states knowing taht Ojukwu would hold majority Igbo territory then created states around the East central, why not blame Ojukwu then for declaring Biafra while being badly equipped. I think some of you are just shallow and above all having this self declared intellect that is bound to mislead, is Switzerland not landlocked, so having border with Cameroon is now an achievement?

As for access to sea you are part of the brainwashed lots taht cant differentiate between AlaIgbo and South East

AlexBells:



As for access to sea you are part of the brainwashed lots taht cant differentiate between AlaIgbo and South East

Alaigbo is you illusional fantasy. Those people you are claiming to be Ibos in the Niger delta are embarrassed of the association with you and barely tolerate you.

Claim all your impossible "alaigbo" and you still won't smell the sea.


Check out your alaigbo here.

https://www.nairaland.com/6609367/asaba-inlaw-whole-world-couldnt
Asaba Inlaw: "In This Whole World You Couldn’t Find Anyone To Marry But An Igbo"

https://www.nairaland.com/7113416/history-origin-agbor
History/origin Of Agbor

43Ronin
post=126159717:
Nigeria is a multi-ethnic country development can only start from the ground-up, thr top-down approach is not working because it doesn't comform with some others value system.

THIS I agree with 💯 %

spearman:


Alaigbo is you illusional fantasy. Those people you are claiming to be Ibos in the Niger delta are embarrassed of the association with you and barely tolerate you.

Claim all your impossible "alaigbo" and you still won't smell the sea.


Check out your alaigbo here.

They are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and what they feel or not won't matter when the time comes, they would be annexed and if heaven falls, so be it

AlexBells:

They are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and what they feel or not won't matter when the time comes, they would be annexed and if heaven falls, so be it

Ibos will be annihilated if they make any funny move. In any case you are simply chest beating.
Ibos can still remember what Edo people massacred them in September of 1967. No Ibo man go ever tangle with Midwesterners ever again.

spearman:


Ibos will be annihilated if they make any funny move. In any case you are simply chest beating.
Ibos can still remember what Edo people massacred them in September of 1967. No Ibo man go ever tangle with Midwesterners ever again.

Till then, for now it is what it is, I don't even think we have any serious issues with Edo, I'm from Ezikoba and I put it to you that the only contested territory we have with Edo or whatever you call it is Igbanke and they would either get a peaceful Refendum or a violent annexation whichever way, all options are on the table as for Opobo and Bonny either the Ijaws accept a peaceful means or Refendum or direct annexation and potentially seizing more territories as spoil would ensure whichever way, Nigeria existence has been a saving grace

spearman:


Alaigbo is you illusional fantasy. Those people you are claiming to be Ibos in the Niger delta are embarrassed of the association with you and barely tolerate you.

Claim all your impossible "alaigbo" and you still won't smell the sea.


Check out your alaigbo here.

Smell the sea? Did we tell you we want to go to the beach?

We are talking about Regions here. If Regions are to be created, it will be done by referendum. When referendum comes, it will be a once in life time opportunity for different people to choose where they want to be. People are most likely to go with people whom they share a lot in common with like language and culture, rather than people they dont even know what they are saying

Of there is referendum, it is most likely that all the Igbo speaking people will choose to be in one Region

onumadu:


You are clueless and I can prove it immediately...

Is North Central ethnically homogeneous (ie one ethnic group)?
Is North East ethnically homogeneous?
Is North West ethnically homogeneous?
Even South West is not homogeneous (never mind the propaganda, Lagos is not "Yoruba" but "Yoruboid" and so forth).
And of course South south is NOT ethnically homogeneous.

All the zones mentioned above have one thing in common: each has either direct access to the sea, or direct access to another country.

South East is the only zone with neither.

And South East is the only ethnically homogeneous zone.
Why is that?

You people who don't have any training in strategic thinking should not be commenting or leading opinion on Igbo affairs because you know nothing.

Nnamdi Kanu alone has more competence in strategic thinking than Zik and Ekwueme combined. Quote me.

God in heaven knows that aside from Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB, I am scared about this crop of Igbos and their strategic thinking capability.

No thinking about their political future. No tact, no strategy and no long term political ambitions such as self determination. The Igbo politician cares about selling his people for his selfish ambition and the Igbo common man just wants to leave for other region and set up his business without asking why critical infrastructure to support that business such as seaport, railway etc is lacking in the East. Such a careless lifestyle that have catastrophic consequences. The major problem of the East is the disruption of economic and cultural integration of Eastern region.

Eastern region (southeast and South South) can never develop if this anomaly is not corrected. Either the entire eastern region +lower Benue becomes Biafra or Igboland including Delta and Rivers state go their own way. One must happen.

AlexBells:
Till then, for now it is what it is, I don't even think we have any serious issues with Edo, I'm from Ezikoba and I put it to you that the only contested territory we have with Edo or whatever you call it is Igbanke and they would either get a peaceful Refendum or a violent annexation whichever way, all options are on the table as for Opobo and Bonny either the Ijaws accept a peaceful means or Refendum or direct annexation and potentially seizing more territories as spoil would ensure whichever way, Nigeria existence has been a saving grace

All the lands you claim as alaigbo in the Niger Delta are all Edoid and will fight to remain so.

spearman:

All the lands you claim as alaigbo in the Niger Delta are all Edoid and will fight to remain so.

Are Edoid? People who speak Igbo, bear Igbo names, their villages bear Igbo names, practice Igno culture, are edoid? Make I laugh

paxx:
What do you guys think?

I think it's bullshit

spearman:

All the lands you claim as alaigbo in the Niger Delta are all Edoid and will fight to remain so.

You mean Opobo and Bonny are also Ediod and Obigbo, Etche, Onelga are also Edoid, cause we need to know where and who we are fighting at where and when, we are not opposed to any option either. For now I think the bigger issue is with Ijaw but if Benin or Edo refuse the carrot of referendum on contested areas, then the stick of war may as well be valid if such option becomes the way out

AlexBells:

You mean Opobo and Bonny are also Ediod and Obigbo, Etche, Onelga are also Edoid, cause we need to know where and who we are fighting at where and when, we are not opposed to any option either. For now I think the bigger issue is with Ijaw but if Benin or Edo refuse the carrot of referendum on contested areas, then the stick of war may as well be valid if such option becomes the way out

Carrot of Referendum? Come Benin/Edo na. Na Yoruba people go even deal with una, not Edo. Edo and Delta were part of Western Nigeria and you think they will leave you to annex any land. You must be joking.

BloomingDale:


Carrot of Referendum? Come Benin/Edo na. Na Yoruba people go even deal with una, not Edo. Edo and Delta were part of Western Nigeria and you think they will leave you to annex any land. You must be joking.

You for say make Yoruba and Igbo reason the matter, from the beginning Yoruba never claimed Igbos in Midwest, remember the kobo kobo saga, we only want our people in Igbanke, Yoruba can annex anyone else if they let you no issues or you want to tell me Yoruba is interested in Igbanke or Anioma ? You can have your Itsekiri and if Benin allow you annex them, good luck

AlexBells:

You for say make Yoruba and Igbo reason the matter, from the beginning Yoruba never claimed Igbos in Midwest, remember the kobo kobo saga, we only want our people in Igbanke, Yoruba can annex anyone else if they let you no issues or you want to tell me Yoruba is interested in Igbanke or Anioma ? You can have your Itsekiri and if Benin allow you annex them, good luck

No Igboland in MidWestern Nigeria. It’s all Benin Kingdom. Part of our land is in Anambra. They will go with us too.

BloomingDale:


No Igboland in MidWestern Nigeria. It’s all Benin Kingdom. Part of our land is in Anambra. They will go with us too.

Yorubaman, Igbo no dey like you, we can’t lose an inch of our land like you lost Ilorin, know this and know peace

AlexBells:
Yorubaman, Igbo no dey like you, we can’t lose an inch of our land like you lost Ilorin, know this and know peace

Yoruba man? My mom’s village is in Ndokwa East and none of us speak Igbo there though my mom can speak Igbo.

BloomingDale:


Yoruba man? My mom’s village is in Ndokwa East and none of us speak Igbo there though my mom can speak Igbo.

Who asked you about what you or your mum can speak, it doesn’t matter abeg, you should be smart enough to see the handwriting on the Wall, Anioma or any Igboid for that matter no be Ilorin abeg no levels

BloomingDale:


No Igboland in MidWestern Nigeria. It’s all Benin Kingdom. Part of our land is in Anambra. They will go with us too.

All Bini Kingdom? Is Bini kingdom an ethnic group? Go and tell the Asaba man he is not Igbo and see how he will chase you with cutlass

Armaggedon:
God in heaven knows that aside from Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB, I am scared about this crop of Igbos and their strategic thinking capability.

No thinking about their political future. No tact, no strategy and no long term political ambitions such as self determination. The Igbo politician cares about selling his people for his selfish ambition and the Igbo common man just wants to leave for other region and set up his business without asking why critical infrastructure to support that business such as seaport, railway etc is lacking in the East. Such a careless lifestyle that have catastrophic consequences. The major problem of the East is the disruption of economic and cultural integration of Eastern region.

Eastern region (southeast and South South) can never develop if this anomaly is not corrected. Either the entire eastern region +lower Benue becomes Biafra or Igboland including Delta and Rivers state go their own way. One must happen.

Your head is fixed tightly on your shoulders.
I see kids commenting on things they totally lack comprehension of.
Left to those kids, they would cede all parts of Igboland just because some Yoruba masquerades shouted their usual hypocrisy.
I repeat, Nnamdi Kanu is a better strategic thinker than Zik and Ekwueme combined.
Ojukwu even barely escaped my addition to the list of clueless Igbo, and it is because he ensured that Biafra government had healthy representation from so called South south.
My only anger with Ojukwu is from what his friend Frederick Forsythe noted about Biafran strategy during the war.
He said Ojukwu refused to change to guerilla tactics when it was obvious that Biafra couldn't sustain conventional warfare.
He said had Ojukwu done that, Biafra would never have lost the war.
And I know that there were many Biafrans who suggested that to Ojukwu, but he refused.
His clueless unwillingness to re-strategize cost Biafra the war.
So, yes, as long as Nnamdi Kanu stays the course of his strategy, all will be well.
Forget about all these kids who want to form a country inside another HATEFUL country.
If South Africa hated Lesotho with passion, there is absolutely no way there would be a Lesotho,
I rest my case.

We saw what you did there. U want SS ocean and oil resources abi

ednut1:
We saw what you did there. U want SS ocean and oil resources abi

what exactly do you people want , I still can't lay my hands exactly on what your problem is , both se and SS were formerlly Eastern region both have considerable igbo population in all their states , where exactly is this confusion coming