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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:43pm On Oct 03, 2023
izzou:


That thing na big propaganda

Go to that thread. One guy captured since February.

Like...January, February, and e never collect.

But wetin these guys go gain?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:44pm On Oct 03, 2023
larride:


I never believed that na 200k backlog of passport we get.

I don't know if that figure was the lie, or the fact that they are clearing backlogs.

The Immigration sef is corrupt, and that Minister may not change anything

I did using an agent and i have collected. The people who did themselves have not collected, even as far back as February.

What kind of wickedness is that?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:44pm On Oct 03, 2023
larride:


I never believed that na 200k backlog of passport we get.

I Don notice say for a while now, you nor dey carry believe news from this government 😂😂

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:45pm On Oct 03, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


But wetin these guys go gain?

Na wetin dem tell Minister e go talk naa.

Maybe the Minister thinks all has been cleared.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 8:45pm On Oct 03, 2023
LordAdam16:


It is entirely plausible that Tinubu submitted a forged document in the interim before getting the replacement.
People have made a lot of grave, boneheaded errors before.
CSU can put a stop to all the speculations by authenticating the certificate Tinubu submitted.

Go under oath and say the certificate Tinubu submitted is the same certificate we issued him. EOD.

-Lord

The question is why?

Why would Tinubu fake his own certificate?

Can you think of a reasonable motive?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:47pm On Oct 03, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


Lord is saying that one that Tinubu submitted to INEC might be fake.
Me will wait for Atiku to present his case.

In the mean time, can you see what a 100m player is. I'm talking about Jude and not the dancer you guys bought called Antony

Please please leave Man Utd matter out of this place. angry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:51pm On Oct 03, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


I Don notice say for a while now, you nor dey carry believe news from this government 😂😂

You don go Ikeja Passport office before and see the crowd before they started this their online portal?

The day I went in 2020, we were more than 100 and me and my wife passport came out almost 7 months later.

The backlog long like water.

Meanwhile it's a new administration, it's best to see the way the administration is going to go. I still dey vex with that fuel subsidy removal on inauguration day. The President media team are also just making unforced errors. They need to settle down and get their acts together. Until then na to wait make breeze blow the news first.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:53pm On Oct 03, 2023
izzou:


I don't know if that figure was the lie, or the fact that they are clearing backlogs.

The Immigration sef is corrupt, and that Minister may not change anything

I did using an agent and i have collected. The people who did themselves have not collected, even as far back as February.

What kind of wickedness is that?

Bros me and madam used agent in 2020 and it took7 months. The agent kept telling us there was no booklet available for good 7 month before we received a text from immigration that our passports are ready.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 8:56pm On Oct 03, 2023
nihilistjnr:


The question is why?

Why would Tinubu fake his own certificate?

Can you think of a reasonable motive?

Because he lost the original and did not have a replacement at the time he submitted the document.
Further to that, I don't care about motive. Not one bit.
I only care about the facts. Did Tinubu submit an original or fake?

And apparently, going by the position you guys have espoused, it is impossible to tell if Tinubu submitted an original or a fake.
So anyone can submit a forged document provided that they requested for a replacement copy after the fact.

-Lord
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:56pm On Oct 03, 2023
izzou:


I don't know if that figure was the lie, or the fact that they are clearing backlogs.

The Immigration sef is corrupt, and that Minister may not change anything

I did using an agent and i have collected. The people who did themselves have not collected, even as far back as February.

What kind of wickedness is that?

They have backlogs, they are moving faster than in Aregbsolas time but they havent cleared every backlog

The backlog was so bad that they told people abroad they can travel with expired Nigerian passports. In 2020 to 2021 I doubt anything moved regarding passport collection. It ground to a halt. 7 to 12months were typical saying they didnt have booklets

To even get slot for capture was hard, now its easier but they have not cleared the backlogs
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:57pm On Oct 03, 2023
larride:


Bros me and madam used agent in 2020 and it took7 months. The agent kept telling us there was no booklet available for good 7 month before we received a text from immigration that our passports are ready.

I knew that using agents was a way for Immigration to thief....They create a fake scarcity of booklets, and tell you that using agents is faster than DIY

So when this guy came and said he will clear backlogs, i was looking at it with one eye

If you clear backlogs, how this people wan take thief?

Its very possible they are feeding Mr Minister one news, and doing another.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:59pm On Oct 03, 2023
raumdeuter:


They have backlogs, they are moving faster than in Aregbsolas time but they havent cleared every backlog

The backlog was so bad that they told people abroad they can travel with expired Nigerian passports. In 2020 to 2021 I doubt anything moved regarding passport collection. It ground to a halt. 7 to 12months were typical saying they didnt have booklets

To even get slot for capture was hard, now its easier but they have not cleared the backlogs

You don't understand what i am saying

I used agent in June, and i collected in September

Someone DIY-ed in February and he has not collected. Even those that did in March, April, etc have not.

So which kind selective clearing be that?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:03pm On Oct 03, 2023
izzou:


That thing na big propaganda

Go to that thread. One guy captured since February.

Like...January, February, and e never collect.
The guy they play na next year him admission list go come out🤣🤣
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:04pm On Oct 03, 2023
izzou:


I knew that using agents was a way for Immigration to thief....They create a fake scarcity of booklets, and tell you that using agents is faster than DIY

So when this guy came and said he will clear backlogs, i was looking at it with one eye

If you clear backlogs, how this people wan take thief?

Its very possible they are feeding Mr Minister one news, and doing another.

You see that booklet issue ehn, that's where the problem is.

They will definitely clear those that used agents first before clearing that DIY it themselves. grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:06pm On Oct 03, 2023
izzou:


I don't know if that figure was the lie, or the fact that they are clearing backlogs.

The Immigration sef is corrupt, and that Minister may not change anything

I did using an agent and i have collected. The people who did themselves have not collected, even as far back as February.

What kind of wickedness is that?

Nigerians in government agencies will always find a way to frustrate Any DIY. If you like set it up online - the website will start to hang or freeze and you will have to pay someone at the backend to do it. Unless immigration gets several Oloyede type ogas, this will continue. As it is I am sure they are waiting for Oloyede to exit jamb so the good old money snake eating days can return.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:06pm On Oct 03, 2023
LordAdam16:


Because he lost the original and did not have a replacement at the time he submitted the document.
Further to that, I don't care about motive. Not one bit.
I only care about the facts. Did Tinubu submit an original or fake?

And apparently, going by the position you guys have espoused, it is impossible to tell if Tinubu submitted an original or a fake.
So anyone can submit a forged document provided that they requested for a replacement copy after the fact.

-Lord

Tinubu requested a replacement in 1997.

You are telling us that Tinubu submitted a forged certificate to INEC in 2022 because he did not have a replacement he already got in 1997 in 2022? grin

I'm not even sure you are reading whatever you are posting bro.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:08pm On Oct 03, 2023
larride:


You see that booklet issue ehn, that's where the problem is.

They will definitely clear those that used agents first before clearing that did it themselves. grin

It's a shame.

Nobody fit change this country.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 9:10pm On Oct 03, 2023
LordAdam16:


Because he lost the original and did not have a replacement at the time he submitted the document.
Further to that, I don't care about motive. Not one bit.
I only care about the facts. Did Tinubu submit an original or fake?

And apparently, going by the position you guys have espoused, it is impossible to tell if Tinubu submitted an original or a fake.
So anyone can submit a forged document provided that they requested for a replacement copy after the fact.

-Lord

Atiku's lawyers specifically requested CSU to submit certificates they issued to other students matching the wording, format, fonts etc on Tinubu's certificate.

CSU obliged and provide multiple samples.

So if the school are saying he graduated from there, and that the certificate he presented looks exactly the ones they issued other students...then what exactly are you uncertain about?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:12pm On Oct 03, 2023
GloriousGbola:


Nigerians in government agencies will always find a way to frustrate Any DIY. If you like set it up online - the website will start to hang or freeze and you will have to pay someone at the backend to do it. Unless immigration gets several Oloyede type ogas, this will continue. As it is I am sure they are waiting for Oloyede to exit jamb so the good old money snake eating days can return.

For the passport, everything is online.

The difference is that the agent will prepare a file containing physical documents that he will go and submit in the office to fasttrack what he has submitted online.

DIY is 25k
Agent is 45k

Even if the PCO is getting 3k on every file, he may not touch his salary and allowances till he is transferred or retired

SMH
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:15pm On Oct 03, 2023
raumdeuter:


They have backlogs, they are moving faster than in Aregbsolas time but they havent cleared every backlog

The backlog was so bad that they told people abroad they can travel with expired Nigerian passports. In 2020 to 2021 I doubt anything moved regarding passport collection. It ground to a halt. 7 to 12months were typical saying they didnt have booklets

To even get slot for capture was hard, now its easier but they have not cleared the backlogs

That is one of the failures of Buhari's administration people don't talk about enough. They literally made a bad situation rotten

Immigration workers off records blamed the shortage of booklets on CBN Forex policies; Aregbe on the other hand claimed there was no shortage of booklets at anytime it was the handwork of corrupt immigration workers who fabricated the story.

Such a dysfunctional government it was, but if we talk we automatically get labelled wailer for the same thing that affects everyone

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 9:24pm On Oct 03, 2023
LordAdam16:


It is entirely plausible that Tinubu submitted a forged document in the interim before getting the replacement.
People have made a lot of grave, boneheaded errors before.
CSU can put a stop to all the speculations by authenticating the certificate Tinubu submitted.

Go under oath and say the certificate Tinubu submitted is the same certificate we issued him. EOD.

-Lord
Any piece of paper that Tinubu writes his name on as well as his alma mater - claiming to have graduated from the school - is as good as any diploma or certificate that would have come from the school itself. Once you have that settled you will see that Atiku's lawyers are simply milking and bilking him.

Let's say the certificate Tinubu submitted was "fake" what does that have to do with CSU? Their only interest is in certifying that Tinubu went to and graduated from their school. If he did, how can whatever he tendered be fake? It can't because it is simply claiming exactly what CSU have confirmed to be true.

Think of it another way. Did Tinubu claim he graduated at an earlier time than the school were willing to testify? Did he claim a class of degree that was higher than what he actually graduated with? If no, then how can any paper that he typed the same thing on the certificate be fake? It can't because it is not the quality of paper or font type that makes a certificate real or fake. It is the claim on it. CSU have agreed with Tinubu's claims. Q.E.D.

(Meanwhile they will use his pictures as one of their most celebrated alumni - as per being a president).

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:37pm On Oct 03, 2023
raumdeuter:


Most schools will give you a replacement diploma for free, Give you a portal to print for free, or charge max $100 for a replacement. The cost of forging one will likely cost more than $100

Why will someone who genuinely graduated now go and forge the same document of the school he graduated from? What is the motive to do that?

Its like you cooking meat and stealing your own meat from your pot when no one will query you if you eat everything at once

The motive could be the days before Internet, you can't easily get your document from abroad at short notice. It could be the document her requested in 1997 or a hastily arranged fake as Governorship election drew close
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:41pm On Oct 03, 2023
Ibime:


The motive could be the days before Internet, you can't easily get your document from abroad at short notice. It could be the document her requested in 1997 or a hastily arranged fake as Governorship election drew close


Tinubu submitted certificate to INEC for this 2023 election cycle and I believe that is what Atiku is disputing unless Atiku is disputing the 1997 one, So assuming he submitted fake in 1997(Though the school verified that he collected a copy in 1997), Won't he have requested new ones in 2021/22 for this election cycle
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:44pm On Oct 03, 2023
grin

.....wuz goin on here! I expect to see Obidients jubilating nah, coz Tilumbu has been exposed as a female. LOL!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:45pm On Oct 03, 2023
"Mr Bola Tinubu graduated with honours. It is a Grade Point Average distinction awarded to high performing students....Materials in Mr. Tinubu’s records show that he is male. I see the application to Chicago State University. Mr. Tinubu identified himself as male. His letter of admission identified him as male."

- Direct quote from Chicago State University's Sworn testimony.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 10:01pm On Oct 03, 2023
larride:


Tinubu requested a replacement in 1997.

You are telling us that Tinubu submitted a forged certificate to INEC in 2022 because he did not have a replacement he already got in 1997 in 2022? grin

I'm not even sure you are reading whatever you are posting bro.

The Presidency is not the first political position Tinubu contested for.
He became a Senator in 1992. Not sure what documents he submitted then.
But when he returned in 1998, he submitted this certified copy diploma with "clerical errors" that he claimed to receive from CSU for Governorship.
That's the same diploma he submitted for the 2023 Presidential elections for consistency.

You guys are just beating around the bush and using hollow retorts to avoid admitting that the Mister may have used an Oluwole certificate. And that CSU is performing mind-bending legal gymnastics to avoid authenticating the certificate he submitted.

-Lord
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:04pm On Oct 03, 2023
Kevin McCarthy impeached
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 10:06pm On Oct 03, 2023
A whole presidential aid making a defeatist speech.



=126179702:

For me, the issue is not whether President Tinubu graduated from Chicago State University or not. It is the fact that former Vice President Atiku is not a decent man.

Nobody should subject his or her friend to the level of assault and indignity he has subjected President Tinubu to because of earthly position and contestation for power.

We are talking of a Tinubu that had moved mountains for Atiku in the past. A Tinubu that offered Atiku a shelter when he was thoroughly beaten by rain and stripped naked by President Obasanjo and his party PDP in 2007.

No friend should become what Ekiti people call 'aleni mo deyin', a relentless pursuer like former VP Atiku regardless of the prize!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:09pm On Oct 03, 2023
LordAdam16:


The Presidency is not the first political position Tinubu contested for.
He became a Senator in 1992. Not sure what documents he submitted then.
But when he returned in 1998, he submitted this certified copy diploma with "clerical errors" that he claimed to receive from CSU for Governorship.
That's the same diploma he submitted for the 2023 Presidential elections for consistency.

You guys are just beating around the bush and using hollow retorts to avoid admitting that the Mister may have used an Oluwole certificate. And that CSU is performing mind-bending legal gymnastics to avoid authenticating the certificate he submitted.

-Lord

You are the one that's actually doing mental gymnastics.

CSU has confirmed severally that they issued a replacement to Tinubu in 1997.

Please tell us why he will need to forge a document he already got in 1997 for a Governorship election that happened in 1998?

Try and remove whatever rose tinted glasses you have on.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 10:10pm On Oct 03, 2023
He calls it earthly position. Speaking from a moral point of view.

Imagine APC man sounding like people that promotes peace.

He quickly forgot how his oga used every avenue necessary(including physical harm infliction) to grab the so called earthly position.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:11pm On Oct 03, 2023
Emaprince:
A whole presidential aid making a defeatist speech.




I don't know how these ones get appointed as media aide.

They are accusing your principal of fraud and forgery and you talking about friendship kinikan instead of staying on the facts of the matter.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:14pm On Oct 03, 2023
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