OgaTheTop2:
What a disgrace to Nigeria and Nigerians..

The disgrace is for you and your household, as for me, Nigeria is blessed with a president in the person of Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu GCFR.

I just hate obi of Agulu peter Pandora

The fact is, the Bola Tinubu that attended CSU is not the same person in Aso rock.
The man in Aso rock was not issued any certificate that was why he had to forge the certificate.

If the man in Aso rock was issued a certificate by CSU and perhaps it got missing, then we would had provided a simple affidavit, period.

Well let's still hold on and hear from Atiku.
People should stop supporting crime, if anyone is found guilty let the person face the consequences.

I know a lot of blood is crying for vengeance,..
God please deliver and heal Nigeria.

If INEC is truly an independent body, they should request the official diploma.

If the purpose is to verify Tinubu's sex, I'm afraid it will not help Atiku's goal of fully exposing Tinubu because a diploma doesn't indicate the sex of the recipient.

However, it really doesn't matter, I am of the opinion that Atiku already has the facts proving that Tinubu submitted a forged document to INEC.

But what requires some deep thinking is figuring out the course of action. Mainly because Tinubu did attend CSU, but he submitted a forged diploma. And the purpose of a diploma is to confirm attendance.

But now what? Verifying his attendance through official channels was after the fact. I think this is a self inflicted wound on the part of Tinubu.

I'm not well versed on INEC rules and the Nigerian constitution, but I think this is valid grounds for his disqualification.

But the problem is this, will Tinubu's criminal intent or mis-step change the fact that he attended and graduated from the university? Answer is NO!

So from that perspective, we could argue that submitting a forged document is irrelevant or innocuous in this case because he did graduate from the university.

So then what should be the penalty? I am not sure if disqualification is a measured and appropriate penalty for such an innocuous act.

blackslayer:

And the purpose of a diploma is to confirm attendance.

Wrong again, the purpose of a diploma is to give you an academic status. Attendance is not what dipolmas attest for, they attest fir the fact you past the exams in a satisfactory manner.
I have seen people attend a university but fail the exam, and I have seen people who showed up only during exams and passed the exams with success.
The group which failed the exams didn't get the degree, the one which didn't attend classes but past the exams well got the diploma.

Those Agbadorians Urchins BaTists Ebolans still defending BAT are seriously advised to check into MFM PRAYER CITY for DEEP DELIVERANCE for they hv indeed, bn bewitched!

Stoplying:

Wrong again, the purpose of a diploma is to give you an academic status. Attendance is not what dipolmas attest for, they attest fir the fact you past the exams in a satisfactory manner.

Lol. I see you are pedantic which is tempting me to change my nature of discourse with you.

Let me help you out here, I used attendance losely in this context. Attendance / graduated. I thought common sense would indicate that was what I was referring to.

I think you should spend some time working on your emotional intelligence. Your motivation and argument are misguided at best.

bonkyx:
The fact is, the Bola Tinubu that attended CSU is not the same person in Aso rock.
The man in Aso rock was not issued any certificate that was why he had to forge the certificate.

If the man in Aso rock was issued a certificate by CSU and perhaps it got missing, then we would had provided a simple affidavit, period.

Well let's still hold on and hear from Atiku.
People should stop supporting crime, if anyone is found guilty let the person face the consequences.

I know a lot of blood is crying for vengeance,..
God please deliver and heal Nigeria.

It is fact beyond contention the man in Aso Rock attended CSU.
At least one of his contemporaries has even sworn on oath to this effect, so what is your point?

Please stay on theme - focus on the seemingly dubious Cert sent to INEC and the rest of his schooling history.

femisplash:
A man attended a University, gratudated from same University but had to forge the certificate of the school he grdauated from. Does that even make sense to you?, are we having more number of idiots in this country?
Headless mob singing different tune at different times, first, it was that he didn't attend CSU and that he was female. When they lost on that, they are now jumping on a new tune of forgery.
i have no pity for those who labour in vain.

Stealing doesn't make sense until caught... The same way politicians in government steals without mercy, does that also make sense to you.

You should have a clue how desperate and hungry they can be to attain power.

blackslayer:


Lol. I see you are pedantic which is tempting me to change my nature of discourse with you.

Let me help you out here, I used attendance losely in this context. Attendance / graduated. I thought common sense would indicate that was what I was referring to.

I think you should spend some time working on your emotional intelligence. Your motivation and argument are misguided at best.

I read words, not minds. It is up to you to specify what you think with precision by using the right words.
So you believe in that emotional intelligence nonsense? 😂

Stoplying:

Wrong again, the purpose of a diploma is to give you an academic status. Attendance is not what dipolmas attest for, they attest fir the fact you past the exams in a satisfactory manner.
I have seen people attend a university but fail the exam, and I have seen people who showed up only during exams and passed the exams with success.
The group which failed the exams didn't get the degree, the one which didn't attend classes but past the exams well got the diploma.

Attended/graduated, and the degree obtained etc.

We need to stick to the scope and context. I believe for the sake of argument in this discussion, the bone of contention was if Tinubu attended the university.

Stoplying:

I read words, not minds. It is up to you to specify what you think with precision by using the right words.
So you believe in that emotional intelligence nonsense? 😂

Read words? Yes! Read words to make intelligent conclusions or inference. I will spell it out and hold your hands next time.

Alchemy528:
Let that man step down what are you people still conducting on,, for god's sake

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The same questions I'm asking for is this, is Tinubu bigger than the rest of Nigerians and our constitution? They should impeach that criminal for Christ sake

If he truly attended the school and was issued a cerificate, why forge same certificate?

Let's keep lying to eachother.

whatisthetruth:


Why would you forge a certificate that your school has ready for pickup?

Only Tinubu can answer that. But thank God he had an original he could have gone to pick up.
This is why I said this is not a conventional kind of "forgery". Why would a man forge a certificate when he has an original waiting for him?
In Tinubu's case, I find it difficult to use the word "forgery".

blackslayer:


Read words? Yes! Read words to make intelligent conclusions or inference. I will spell it out and hold your hands next time.

Next time use the appropriate word rather than expecting people to read your mind.

Kaiser20:
Tinubu's criminal record and his Oluwole certificate pose a huge threat to young Nigerians seeking Visas to travel abroad.

Oh, it already is, even before this presidential forgery to be fair. Some European countries even doubt Nigerian passports issued by Nigerian embassies abroad.

Stoplying:

Next time use the appropriate word rather than expecting people to read your mind.

Next time, use your brain or whatever is left of it to make logical inferences rather than expect people to spell everything out for you.
You just might have a lesson or two to learn today. Keep going!

If Tinubu's forgery can be justified under any circumstances, then Mmesoma and all the forgers who are in prison deserve a national apology.

Forgery is forgery, no matter who's involved.

Stoplying:

My friend, a transcript is just a paper, nothing special about it, it is just a printed paper showing your results in the exams. The actual special paper is the diploma, and it is a crime to forge a diploma.
You are turning things upside down. The diploma is way more important than any transcript. All that you have in a transcript is just your results and an official stamp.

It takes five minutes for a university to deliver a transcript but it takes several weeks for it to deliver a diploma.

A transcript is just a paper? Are you serious?
I could just tell that you went to Ogbomosho polytechnic.
I don’t know why folks can’t just simply understand what they are talking about…before they spill nonsense.
May God bless Nigeria and all Nigerians.

President Bola Ahmed Tinubu’s transcript:

https://www.scribd.com/document/675598283/Certified-Deposition-Transcript

zomby:


A transcript is just a paper?
I could just tell that u went to Ogbomosho polytechnic.
I don’t know why folks can just understand what they are talking about…before they spill nonsense.
May God bless Nigeria and all Nigerians.

I will suggest you ignore him/her, i already know his/her type. However you can continue to lecture if you have the time to waste or for sports!

blackslayer:


Next time, use your brain or whatever is left of it to make logical inferences rather than expect people to spell everything out for you.

I don't use proof theory too much, I created my own way of proving sentences. By the way, I'm a logician.
You used the wrong word, the aim of communication is not to tender a puzzle to everybody, it is to get a message across without ambiguity. That is why we use words rather than just barking at each other. It is easy to be vague, but hard to be precise. If you were smart enough, then you would always talk in an unmistakable manner. That is one of the first principles of formal languages and the reason why first/second order languages are superior to traditional languages.

It will be sensible if Nigerians can also gain access to Peter Obi’s 3rd class transcript and Dr. Atiku’s (PHD in stealing) university record.

Okoroawusa:
If it has been established that I graduated from a school why would I forge its certificate?

It's not making sense

Well Tinubu's action did not make sense! You are exactly right, because based on evidence so far, that is exactly what he did!
Now the consequence is debatable because he actually did graduate from CSU. The penalty for his actions needs to be measured because of this!

zomby:


A transcript is just a paper? Are you serious?
I could just tell that you went to Ogbomosho polytechnic.
I don’t know why folks can’t just simply understand what they are talking about…before they spill nonsense.
May God bless Nigeria and all Nigerians.

What did you think a transcript was ?
It is just a paper with your results and a stamp, that is it.
The university secretary print it at leisure and then put a stamp on it, you can also download it from the university website and print it yourself.

EmperorCaesar:
I learnt this man is a prof


Omo...he is very much daft

CSU claimed third party vendors can help create a replacement certificate, so if BAT actually got it through that means, hows that a case of forgery?

Third party with the signature of someone else?

blackslayer:


Well Tinubu's action did not make sense! You are exactly right, because based on evidence so far, that is exactly what he did!
Now the consequence is debatable because he actually did graduate from CSU. The penalty for his actions needs to be measured because of this!

FYI:
Saint Atiku still cannot visit USA without a special permit and assurance that he will not be arrested…this is from the shady business he did with a Washington DC senator 20 yrs ago. Up till now, the Washington DC senator in question is still eating beans in prison.
Atiku of all people shouldn’t be getting involved in investigating anybody. The bloody fool should be ashamed of himself… Let them crown him in Dubai…He will never become the president on this planet till the end of time.

Stoplying:

I don't use proof theory too much, I created my own way of proving sentences. By the way, I'm a logician.
You used the wrong word, the aim of communication is not to tender a puzzle to everybody, it is to get a message across without ambiguity. That is why we use words rather than just barking at each other. It is easy to be vague, but hard to be precise. If you were smart enough, then you would always talk in an unmistakable manner. That is one of the fire principles of formal languages and firs/second order languages.

Got it! Look up inference and i can guarantee you are not a logician from my interaction with you thus far! How do you graduate from an institution without attending it? Because your bone of contention is that i used the word attend! And by the way, i can break apart your arguments which is rife with errors and illogical statements, but i am not in the mood. I just might change my mind if i want to!

blackslayer:


Got it! Look up inference and i can guarantee you are not a logician from my interaction with you thus far! How do you graduate from an institution without attending it? Because your bone of contention is that i used the word attend! And by the way, i can break apart your arguments which is rife with errors and illogical statements, but i am not in the mood. I just might change my mind if i want to!

Please change your mind and "break apart" my "arguments which is rife with errors and illogical statements".

Stoplying:

What did you think a transcript was ?
It is just a paper with your results and a stamp, that is it.
The university secretary print it at leisure and then put a stamp on it, you can also download it from the university website and print it yourself.

Again, say hello to your people at Ogbomosho polytechnic

Alchemy528:

Forwardness, did I mention your stinky name

You heart Is filled with filths, bitterness, acrimony and lack of direction. I thought u needed help on how to end your misery. Go and remove Tinubu na