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Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by MeineMutter: 12:14am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
You have still not given any proof of Palestine being a sovereign state, all you've been doing is polemics . You can't show a King or Duke, prince, duke, president or prime minister of Palestine before 2003. You know why?. It's because Palestine was never a sovereign state!.
You just love being emotional!.
I am not out to defend either of them but just trying to wash you off your level of ignorance.

You don’t need a queen, king of Duke before you have a nation.

Have you checked the definition of a country of a nation?
Os it written in that definition that they must have a queen, king, Duke or ruler?

Zombi.e
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 12:16am On Oct 10, 2023
MeineMutter:
I am not out to defend either of them but just trying to wash you off your level of ignorance.

You don’t need a queen, king of Duke before you have a nation.

Have you checked the definition of a country of a nation?
Os it written in that definition that they must have a queen, king, Duke or ruler?

Zombi.e
A sovereign state don't need to have Kings,Dukes, emperor etchuh!!!
You don't have any point bobo go and sleep!.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 12:20am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
You have still not given any proof of Palestine being a sovereign state, all you've been doing is polemics . You can't show a King or Duke, prince, duke, president or prime minister of Palestine before 2003. You know why?. It's because Palestine was never a sovereign state!.
You just love being emotional!.
Dude, show the source of your maps so that we can verify authenticity.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by MeineMutter: 12:55am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
A sovereign state don't need to have Kings,Dukes, emperor etchuh!!!
You don't have any point bobo go and sleep!.
It doesn’t need to.

If you haven’t heard of Yasser Arafat before, go and read more about him and how he was killed by a western country’s secret agent with packs of poison-laced infiltrated cigarettes of his choice.

Sebi you said you can’t read on your own other than listen to UKU music.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Emilo(m): 12:55am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
Does it have Palestine?! lol, NO
Under the Ottoman 1516-1917 ( first picture)
Second picture was the map after world war1. There was never an Independent country called Palestine
3rd picture is during the British colony. 1920s to 1940s.
During all of this time there was a continuous Jewish presence in what is now called Israel until they were wiped out in 1929 by the Arab Palestinians.

Aljazeera are just trying to distort history ni. THERE IS NEVER A COUNTRY CALLED PALESTINE.
I dont know where you get ur stories? see map until 1948 when the Israel state was created. Kindly answer this ultimate question. “Before 1948 where on earth was called Israel??. And the land that is now Israel u think nobody was living there?

Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 1:09am On Oct 10, 2023
MeineMutter:
It doesn’t need to.

If you haven’t heard of Yasser Arafat before, go and read more about him and how he was killed by a western country’s secret agent with packs of poison-laced infiltrated cigarettes of his choice.

Sebi you said you can’t read on your own other than listen to UKU music.
Yasser Arafat was the founder of Palestine?!.😁🤣😂😥. I was expecting such response from you awe!.
🤣😂😥
Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian fighting for Palestine based on islamic belief that Israel must be eradicated from the surface of the Earth before their Janah ( Heavenly brothel of virgins) could fully come!.

Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 1:12am On Oct 10, 2023
Emilo:
I dont know where you get ur stories? see map until 1948 when the Israel state was created. Kindly answer this ultimate question. “Before 1948 where on earth was called Israel??. And the land that is now Israel u think nobody was living there?
Are you deliberately telling lies or you're just purely ignorant?!.
Even on Palestine websites you can never see such map on it!.
The reason why they don't want you to believe in conventional history!.

You can read this page from a Palestine website

https://www.palestineportal.org/learn-teach/israelpalestine-the-basics/maps/maps-ottoman-empire-through-1949/
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 1:20am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
Are you deliberately telling lies or you're just purely ignorant?!.
Even on Palestine websites you can never see such map on it!.
The reason why they don't want you to believe in conventional history!.

You can read this page from a Palestine website

https://www.palestineportal.org/learn-teach/israelpalestine-the-basics/maps/maps-ottoman-empire-through-1949/
What we call Israel today was called Palestine until around 1947 when Israel was created for people of the Jewish faith out of Palestine.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 1:27am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
What we call Israel today was called Palestine until around 1947 when Israel was created for people of the Jewish faith out of Palestine.
The issue is not whether a place is called Palestine or not!. The issue is that there was never a sovereign state called Palestine. The name was just a punishment for the Israelites by their invaders to obliterate their history and heritage!.
Arabs and Jews lived on the land, tho the Jews lived as minority group, until 1929 when the Jews were wiped out!.
They came back for their land in 1948 when Arthur Belfour gave them
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by MeineMutter: 1:42am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
Yasser Arafat was the founder of Palestine?!.😁🤣😂😥. I was expecting such response from you awe!.
🤣😂😥
Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian fighting for Palestine based on islamic belief that Israel must be eradicated from the surface of the Earth before their Janah ( Heavenly brothel of virgins) could fully come!.
Olodo ni e.

Stop quoting gibberish. That’s why you ain’t making headway in all you do. You rely on unverified sources.

Yasser Arafat WAS BORN in Egypt but he was a Palestine president not a founder.

Go and dig deeper.

Wheyrhey, quoting one fake sunnah website.

All this glorified secondary schools Madona-like uni graduate sef
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 1:45am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
The name was just a punishment for the Israelites by their invaders to obliterate their history and heritage!.
Do you have any proof to back this claim?
My friend, "Israelite" is a word directly from the Bible, it doesn't refer to anybody of today.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 1:48am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
Arabs and Jews lived on the land, tho the Jews lived as minority group, until 1929 when the Jews were wiped out!.
Again, where is proof of "wiping out" of the Jews in 1929 (at that time Palestine was a British/french colony), did the British/french wipe them out ?
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 1:49am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
They came back for their land in 1948 when Arthur Belfour gave them
So according to you, the Jews were wiped out in 1929 and then they came back in 1948, are they like Jesus? They have his ability to rise from the dead ?

People from Europe and America who were facing persecution for their Jewish faith decided to run to Palestine and some of them had plans of removing the general population of the land in favour of making place for other Europeans and Americans who identified as Jewish. And that is what happened.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 1:54am On Oct 10, 2023
MeineMutter:
Olodo ni e.

Stop quoting gibberish. That’s why you ain’t making headway in all you do. You rely on unverified sources.

Yasser Arafat WAS BORN in Egypt but he was a Palestine president not a founder.

Go and dig deeper.

Wheyrhey, quoting one fake sunnah website.

All this glorified secondary schools Madona-like uni graduate sef
🤣😂😁
I only asked that was Yasser that was born in 1929 as an Egyptian the founder of Palestine?.
I didn't call him the founder.
If you don't understand the motif for my question then you have a lot of work to do on yourself 😂🤣😁.
Quoting fake Sunnah?! You might have thought that I don't have any knowledge of Islam. That's Albukhari and the number is on it you can look it up if it's daif or fabricated!.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 1:59am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
Again, where is proof of "wiping out" of the Jews in 1929 (at that time Palestine was a British/french colony), did the British/french wipe them out ?
That a people were under a colony does not mean they can't carry out genocide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 2:01am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
That a people were under a colony does not mean they can't carry out genocide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Bring me a real source, 1929 is not that long ago, you must be able to find papers of that era which talk about it. Wikipedia is good for children and rife with propaganda, I'm an educated adult and I thought you were too.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 2:07am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
People from Europe and America who were facing persecution for their Jewish faith decided to run to Palestine and some of them had plans of removing the general population of the land in favour of making place for other Europeans and Americans who identified as Jewish. And that is what happened.
It was the Arabs (Palestines), the Ottoman, the Romans and Syria that chased them out of their motherland in the first place... tho Jews were always living on the land as minority ethnic group.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 2:09am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
Bring me a real source, 1929 is not that long ago, you must be able to find papers of that era which talk about it. Wikipedia is good for children and rife with propaganda, I'm an educated adult and I thought you were too.
Have you provided any source to any of your claims since?!.
But when I bring sources you condemn them like an illiterate. Islam will never want you to learn history because history destroys Islam!.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 2:09am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
That a people were under a colony does not mean they can't carry out genocide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Your Wikipedia unreliable source says
133 dead Jews, so that is what you call "they were wiped out in 1929" ? By the way, 110 Arabs died also, I guess the Arabs were also wiped out huh

Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 2:13am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
Have you provided any source to any of your claims since?!.
But when I bring sources you condemn them like an illiterate. Islam will never want you to learn history because history destroys Islam!.
I'm not a Muslim, don't confuse being educated with being a Muslim.
I claim only verifyable things which anybody whom has studied this field for more than 1 hour should know. You are free to ask me to prove whatever I claim. If I'm not interested in spending time to prove the claim, I generally abandon the claim.
It is not my fault that you have the level of education of a child, who quotes Wikipedia in a serious conversation ?
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 2:25am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
Your Wikipedia unreliable source says
133 dead Jews, so that is what you call "they were wiped out in 1929" ? By the way, 110 Arabs died also, I guess the Arabs were also wiped out huh
Wikipedia will show you its source of information so it's reliable. The Arabs were killed by British police and military.
The massacre led to their extinction from the land.

Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying:
smokinloud:
Wikipedia will show you its source of information so it's reliable.
The argument of a lazy child. I'm not in a conversation with Wikipedia, I'm in a conversation with you, you should show me your reliable source, I'm not going to ask Wikipedia to do that, I'm not talking to Wikipedia!

I don't care if you use Wikipedia to help yourself conduct your research, but Wikipedia itself can not be your research. You are so lazy.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 2:28am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
I'm not a Muslim, don't confuse being educated with being a Muslim.
I claim only verifyable things which anybody whom has studied this field for more than 1 hour should know. You are free to ask me to prove whatever I claim. If I'm not interested in spending time to prove the claim, I generally abandon the claim.
It is not my fault that you have the level of education of a child, who quotes Wikipedia in a serious conversation ?
The only proof you have id nairaland. That's why you brought up a map from nairaland as a proof.
On every Wikipedia pages there are sources to verify every single information provided...
You are the one who is ignorant here you are just making things up to suite your emotions!.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by smokinloud(m): 2:29am On Oct 10, 2023
Stoplying:
The argument of a lazy child. I'm not in a conversation with Wikipedia, I'm in a conversation with you, you should show me your reliable source, I'm not going to ask Wikipedia to do that, I'm not talking to Wikipedia!
So, nairaland is your reliable source?!.
You brought a map from nairaland...
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 2:31am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
The Arabs were killed by British police and military.
The massacre led to their extinction from the land.
The land in question (from your unreliable source) is Hebron (not the entirety of Palestine), and the number of dead Jews is 133. And in case you didn't notice, the number of Jews in Hebron wasn't big to start with (only around 560)
I am still trying to understand how this equates to the Jews of Palestine being wiped out by the Arabs.

Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Stoplying: 2:39am On Oct 10, 2023
smokinloud:
So, nairaland is your reliable source?!.
You brought a map from nairaland...
You are confusing me with someone else, I've never shared a "nairaland map".
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by EleweNjewe: 5:46pm On Oct 10, 2023
shocked

Ara Nnkan Gaza (Body dy spark at the highest level)

Gaza Eje loju bii T’Abacha ( For Gaza You gaz dy para or stay guided like Abacha )



BALLOSKI:
this line pops in my head.

What did he mean here?
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by BALLOSKI: 7:49am On Oct 12, 2023
EleweNjewe:
shocked

Ara Nnkan Gaza (Body dy spark at the highest level)

Gaza Eje loju bii T’Abacha ( For Gaza You gaz dy para or stay guided like Abacha )
Nice one.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Somilat: 12:28pm On Oct 12, 2023
they knew of it
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by bizzibodi(m): 5:04pm On Nov 17, 2023
Emilo:
Exile for over 2500 years ago? An area that has been ruled and occupied by Persians, Romans, Assyrians, and currently Arabs. Do u know how long the arabs have been there and the native Palestine people. Isreal only sneaked in from 1948 after second world war. So how is it their homelandhuh
Natives Palestinians people,u folks think Palestinians are one and same as philistines....Romans,Assyrians, Greece, Babylonians occupied it but they have left,why did d Arabs refuse to leave Jewish land?
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by bizzibodi(m): 6:28pm On Nov 17, 2023
Emilo:
No thats not what they are saying now. Israel should stick to their country as agreed initially. The forceful occupation and construction of buildings in areas not originally assigned to them is what is causing these issues. Israel is tresspassing in what is called Israel Occupation. Palestine don't have issues if they remain in their orignal zone.
They dnt know what they want,they rejected 2 states solution,ehud barrack gave them d best deal they rejected it now begging for 1967 accord,why hamas, Hezbollah want total destruction of Israel,all d Jewishland.
Re: How Did Israeli Intelligence Fail To Stop Major Attack From Gaza? by Emilo(m): 8:04am On Nov 19, 2023
bizzibodi:
Natives Palestinians people,u folks think Palestinians are one and same as philistines....Romans,Assyrians, Greece, Babylonians occupied it but they have left,why did d Arabs refuse to leave Jewish land?
Kindly watch this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCeQt8zg5o?si=LSb0Ftbn99kxi1Bu
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