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Including Boko Haram and Bandits. Mumu man.

seunmsg:
While I take no side in the conflict, it’s better to understand the issues before rushing to take side.

The entire Middle East is a mess that may never ever see peace as a result of the manipulation of the west. The country called Isreal never existed until 1948. Before 1948, Palestinians were the ones living in most parts of Isreal. After the holocaust and Second World War, America decided to move Jews back to the current Isreal location based on biblical history that Isreal once occupied the place. So, they simply hijacked the land from the occupants and took over forcefully. The need to also have a western ally control some historical religious sites that are important to both Christians and Jewish religious was also a factor in the forceful occupation.

The west did the same thing with Saudi Arabia after the First World War. The country called Saudi Arabia today never existed until it was created with the use of force by US backing a rogue mafia family called House of Saud in 1918 to form Saudi Arabia and take over the Islamic holy sites from Turks and Persians.

The 1948 Isreal border was a very controversial one that was a bitter pill for a lot of neighboring Arab and Islamic countries to swallow. This led to the 6-day Arab war in 1967. Isreal won the war but instead of being magnanimous in victory, they decided to expand their 1948 boundary and then took over almost all of Palestinian land. They also took total control and of the Gaza Strip by imposing complete blockade since then.

When the two state option was proposed, Isreal opposed it because recognizing Palestine as a country simply means Isreal will have to lift the rogue blockade of Gaza Strip and lose the right to invade the country at will. So, we have a people who can’t move freely on their land, can’t do anything without Isreal approval, are just locked up within their own land for no reason other than Israel’s need to exist.

So, above is what led to the creation of HAMAS. A group of freedom fighters created to fight the forceful occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel. China, Russia, Iran and a lot other other countries recognize HAMAS as a freedom fighting movement while Isreal and her western allies have tagged HAMAS a terrorist organization.

Like I said, I’m not taking a side. It’s left for the rest of humanity to look at the situation and collectively take the right decision for all sides.

I have a question for you, was there Nigeria before 1914? Or is a more simpler way, was there any country called Nigeria before the arrival of the British? If the answer is no, why then labelling a people (IPOB) fighting to liberate their ancestral lands from the British-created/imposed Nigeria as terrorists? Judge it yourself.

SoNature:
You call Hamas freedom fighters but proudly tag IPOB terrorists. Yeye dey smell!

All of them are Terrorists

misreal:
Someone wants to drag Nigeria into supporting Hamas..hahahah

Nigeria that is still dealing with Boko Haram will never support Hamas
They probably even trained them

Him and Tinubu are stuuuu pid creature. so I'm not surprised, breaking into homes killing women and children in thier homes, is a way of fighting for freedom right? Na ogunlaka aye go kill this one for disgracing my language Yoruba people. You can now see they quickly ignore thier jubilation on Saturday morning, now that Israel pounding them to ground, they want to start crying foul

Kirigidi:
I have a question for you, was there Nigeria before 1914? Or is a more simpler way, was there any country called Nigeria before the arrival of the British? If the answer is no, why then labelling a people (IPOB) fighting to liberate their ancestral lands from the British-created/imposed Nigeria as terrorists? Judge it yourself.

The situation with Isreal and Nigeria are not the same. No ethnic group was displaced from their ancestral land in Nigeria. Nigeria is simply the amalgamation of many nations to form a very big country. In fact, the Igbos at the time of negotiating independence categorically demanded that the union should exist forever and any group or person that demands for separation should be treated with treason. Azikiwe specifically vetoed the request for a secession clause in the constitution. Igbos have freedom in Nigeria. They move around freely and have absolute control of their land. They also willingly signed up for an indissoluble Nigeria.

So, how’s that the same with Isreal? Palestinians are under Israeli subjugation. They’ve taken over their land and they won’t even allow them move freely or do anything within their territory. They are living under the absolute control and dictate of Israel even though they don’t belong to the same country.

Dude solidifying already complicated issues for his principal!
Dem go really squeeze him principal balls till e comot mucos!

NaMe4:
It was Arabs who rejected the Two-state solution, not Israel. This led to the first Arab-Israeli war in 1948.

Is Isreal willing to accept her 1948 borders as proposed by the UN in the original declaration? Isreal has already occupied over 60% of the land proposed for a two state solution. So, who is the problem?

seunmsg:
The situation with Isreal and Nigeria are not the same. No ethnic group was displaced from their ancestral land in Nigeria. Nigeria is simply the amalgamation of many nations to form a very big country. In fact, the Igbos at the time of negotiating independence categorically demanded that the union should exist forever and any group or person that demands for separation should be treated with treason. Azikiwe specifically vetoed the request for a secession clause in the constitution. Igbos have freedom in Nigeria. They move around freely and have absolute control of their land. They also willingly signed up for an indissoluble Nigeria.

So, how’s that the same with Isreal? Palestinians are under Israeli subjugation. They’ve taken over their land and they won’t even allow them move freely or do anything within their territory. They are living under the absolute control and dictate of Israel even though they don’t belong to the same country.

But... Hamas doesn't want a 2 state solution either. So let's stop the hypocrisy. The battle in that zone even precedes 1948. Expansionist agenda is as old as the word history. Palestinians got into that land with war too.
I see attempts to rationalize broad day light killing of babies, elderly, raping of women.... then using thier citizens as shields. That's always the Hamas, ISIS, Bokoharam modus operandi.(then they start stories of western interference)
What happened last Saturday was egregious. No nation will take it! Lets not be hypocrites...and let people accept consequences for actions.

Is this man always being intentionally stupid or accidentally stupid? Very noteworthy to decipher which, else he won't be getting the recommended treatment.

He should resign and go to Gaza, if he represent Nigeria he must remain neutral.

APOPTOSIS:
Is this man always being intentionally stupid or accidentally stupid? Very noteworthy to decipher which, else he won't be getting the recommended treatment.

You can't expect more from a bunch of power grabbing, certificate forgers 🤝🏻

seunmsg:
While I take no side in the conflict, it’s better to understand the issues before rushing to take side.

The entire Middle East is a mess that may never ever see peace as a result of the manipulation of the west. The country called Isreal never existed until 1948. Before 1948, Palestinians were the ones living in most parts of Isreal. After the holocaust and Second World War, America decided to move Jews back to the current Isreal location based on biblical history that Isreal once occupied the place. So, they simply hijacked the land from the occupants and took over forcefully. The need to also have a western ally control some historical religious sites that are important to both Christians and Jewish religious was also a factor in the forceful occupation.

The west did the same thing with Saudi Arabia after the First World War. The country called Saudi Arabia today never existed until it was created with the use of force by US backing a rogue mafia family called House of Saud in 1918 to form Saudi Arabia and take over the Islamic holy sites from Turks and Persians.

The 1948 Isreal border was a very controversial one that was a bitter pill for a lot of neighboring Arab and Islamic countries to swallow. This led to the 6-day Arab war in 1967. Isreal won the war but instead of being magnanimous in victory, they decided to expand their 1948 boundary and then took over almost all of Palestinian land. They also took total control and of the Gaza Strip by imposing complete blockade since then.

When the two state option was proposed, Isreal opposed it because recognizing Palestine as a country simply means Isreal will have to lift the rogue blockade of Gaza Strip and lose the right to invade the country at will. So, we have a people who can’t move freely on their land, can’t do anything without Isreal approval, are just locked up within their own land for no reason other than Israel’s need to exist.

So, above is what led to the creation of HAMAS. A group of freedom fighters created to fight the forceful occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel. China, Russia, Iran and a lot other other countries recognize HAMAS as a freedom fighting movement while Isreal and her western allies have tagged HAMAS a terrorist organization.

Like I said, I’m not taking a side. It’s left for the rest of humanity to look at the situation and collectively take the right decision for all sides.

You mentioned biblical history, what other history is there recorded of Israel order than that recorded in the bible?

We now knnow those supporting terrorists in Nigeria. Bayo ofafuga is one, if it a lie read that useless comment carefully

pandax:
Like Hamas, Like IPOB, Like Boko Haram, LIke Hezbollah, all are freedom fighters - Bayo Onanuga

Point of correction: IPOB are peaceful secessionist agitators and are not terrorists or to be bundled in the same grouping as the bokos, hamas, hezbollah and their likes! But of course i’m not telling you what you don’t already know within you! You have an agenda to disseminate falsehood and anti-Igbo/IPOB agenda and that’s exactly what you’re doing!

Buccalcavity2:
But... Hamas doesn't want a 2 state solution either. So let's stop the hypocrisy. The battle in that zone even precedes 1948. Expansionist agenda is as old as the word history. Palestinians got into that land with war too.
I see attempts to rationalize broad day light killing of babies, elderly, raping of women.... then using thier citizens as shields. That's always the Hamas, ISIS, Bokoharam modus operandi.(then they start stories of western interference)
What happened last Saturday was egregious. No nation will take it! Lets not be hypocrites...and let people accept consequences for actions.

Spot on!

seunmsg:
While I take no side in the conflict, it’s better to understand the issues before rushing to take side.

The entire Middle East is a mess that may never ever see peace as a result of the manipulation of the west. The country called Isreal never existed until 1948. Before 1948, Palestinians were the ones living in most parts of Isreal. After the holocaust and Second World War, America decided to move Jews back to the current Isreal location based on biblical history that Isreal once occupied the place. So, they simply hijacked the land from the occupants and took over forcefully. The need to also have a western ally control some historical religious sites that are important to both Christians and Jewish religious was also a factor in the forceful occupation.

The west did the same thing with Saudi Arabia after the First World War. The country called Saudi Arabia today never existed until it was created with the use of force by US backing a rogue mafia family called House of Saud in 1918 to form Saudi Arabia and take over the Islamic holy sites from Turks and Persians.

The 1948 Isreal border was a very controversial one that was a bitter pill for a lot of neighboring Arab and Islamic countries to swallow. This led to the 6-day Arab war in 1967. Isreal won the war but instead of being magnanimous in victory, they decided to expand their 1948 boundary and then took over almost all of Palestinian land. They also took total control and of the Gaza Strip by imposing complete blockade since then.

When the two state option was proposed, Isreal opposed it because recognizing Palestine as a country simply means Isreal will have to lift the rogue blockade of Gaza Strip and lose the right to invade the country at will. So, we have a people who can’t move freely on their land, can’t do anything without Isreal approval, are just locked up within their own land for no reason other than Israel’s need to exist.

So, above is what led to the creation of HAMAS. A group of freedom fighters created to fight the forceful occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel. China, Russia, Iran and a lot other other countries recognize HAMAS as a freedom fighting movement while Isreal and her western allies have tagged HAMAS a terrorist organization.

Like I said, I’m not taking a side. It’s left for the rest of humanity to look at the situation and collectively take the right decision for all sides.

The only error I see in your narative is that you said Israel took land from palestine, let me ask, is Israel the original occupant of the land? yes, were they strong enough to push away occupants no? many of them bought back their lands? just like I dont want to take sides, besides I am African I have my own problems to face...

For anybody's information, the Jews had been residing in Israel for close to 2400 years before the invasion, I repeat invasion of the Arabs, that s why there's no Arab stories 2000 and something years ago, during the time of Christ, the present Gaza strip occupied by Palestinians was then occupied by Jews. Unlike the Israelis who descended from Abraham, the Arabs came from different places to form what you know as Palestine today, it was when Isla started 1400 years ago that interest of the Arabs on Israel peaked, the rest is history, let the taquiya continue

Sctests:
You hate and castigate Biafrans for asking for self-rule but support ...

You want other people's lands to fall into your "self-rule", that is why people don't like and don't support you. You are a land grabbing hate group which only wants to be the new oppressor in town.

seunmsg:
While I take no side in the conflict, it’s better to understand the issues before rushing to take side.

The entire Middle East is a mess that may never ever see peace as a result of the manipulation of the west. The country called Isreal never existed until 1948. Before 1948, Palestinians were the ones living in most parts of Isreal. After the holocaust and Second World War, America decided to move Jews back to the current Isreal location based on biblical history that Isreal once occupied the place. So, they simply hijacked the land from the occupants and took over forcefully. The need to also have a western ally control some historical religious sites that are important to both Christians and Jewish religious was also a factor in the forceful occupation.

The west did the same thing with Saudi Arabia after the First World War. The country called Saudi Arabia today never existed until it was created with the use of force by US backing a rogue mafia family called House of Saud in 1918 to form Saudi Arabia and take over the Islamic holy sites from Turks and Persians.

The 1948 Isreal border was a very controversial one that was a bitter pill for a lot of neighboring Arab and Islamic countries to swallow. This led to the 6-day Arab war in 1967. Isreal won the war but instead of being magnanimous in victory, they decided to expand their 1948 boundary and then took over almost all of Palestinian land. They also took total control and of the Gaza Strip by imposing complete blockade since then.

When the two state option was proposed, Isreal opposed it because recognizing Palestine as a country simply means Isreal will have to lift the rogue blockade of Gaza Strip and lose the right to invade the country at will. So, we have a people who can’t move freely on their land, can’t do anything without Isreal approval, are just locked up within their own land for no reason other than Israel’s need to exist.

So, above is what led to the creation of HAMAS. A group of freedom fighters created to fight the forceful occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel. China, Russia, Iran and a lot other other countries recognize HAMAS as a freedom fighting movement while Isreal and her western allies have tagged HAMAS a terrorist organization.

Like I said, I’m not taking a side. It’s left for the rest of humanity to look at the situation and collectively take the right decision for all sides.

Are Laji Kadoso.M! Aare opitan agbaye!

So ipob come be wetin??prison fighters....double standard

Mtcheew

Stoplying:
You want other people's lands to fall into your "self-rule", that is why people don't like and don't support you. You are a land grabbing hate group which only wants to be the new oppressor in town.

Slavish speesh from another loonatic..

FACTS...We are oldest tribe, so when did your ancestors come into existence, who gave them land..taaa gbafuo

Something is definitely wrong with Islam as a religion!! Why are almost all radical terrorist group Muslims?! And most sympathizers of terror are Muslims?!

seunmsg:
Is Isreal willing to accept her 1948 borders as proposed by the UN in the original declaration? Isreal has already occupied over 60% of the land proposed for a two state solution. So, who is the problem?

How did Isreal come to occupy over the 60% you talk about? Was it not same way gaza is about to go?

OyeofIkoTuN:
FACTS...We are oldest tribe, so when did your ancestors come into existence, who gave them land..taaa gbafuo

I guess it is true, because you said "facts", right ?
You are just an other uneducated and dumb ipob fool.
Take your madness to your family members, I'm not interested in giving you psychiatric help.

Stoplying:
I guess it is true, because you said "facts", right ?
You are just an other uneducated and dumb ipob fool.
Take your madness to your family members, I'm not interested in giving you psychiatric help.

Problems with slaves and why we continue to spit and stomp on them..Argue the facts,Eleribu wan change am to insults.

Spits.. Yoruba wannabe,minority take a chill pill. Your turn go reach

OyeofIkoTuN:
Problems with slaves and why we continue to spit and stomp on them..Argue the facts,Eleribu wan change am to insults.

Spits.. Yoruba wannabe,minority take a chill pill. Your turn go reach

Look, you have no "facts", merely saying "facts" doesn't imply you are giving facts.

History is not just a matter of making claims, it is something which is researched.
Since the 1400's our region has been written about, that is where you go to see what was in our region before colonisation. Map from Emanuel Bowen (18th century) below.
Your ancestors were described as cannibals by those who visited. And for your info, Igbo are Bantu, your ethnic group is Bantu!

Now, don't quote me again, uneducated fool.

pquaver:
How did Isreal come to occupy over the 60% you talk about? Was it not same way gaza is about to go?

It’s the same way. Through brute forceful occupation while the rest of the world looks away.

seunmsg:
While I take no side in the conflict, it’s better to understand the issues before rushing to take side.

The entire Middle East is a mess that may never ever see peace as a result of the manipulation of the west. The country called Isreal never existed until 1948. Before 1948, Palestinians were the ones living in most parts of Isreal. After the holocaust and Second World War, America decided to move Jews back to the current Isreal location based on biblical history that Isreal once occupied the place. So, they simply hijacked the land from the occupants and took over forcefully. The need to also have a western ally control some historical religious sites that are important to both Christians and Jewish religious was also a factor in the forceful occupation.

The west did the same thing with Saudi Arabia after the First World War. The country called Saudi Arabia today never existed until it was created with the use of force by US backing a rogue mafia family called House of Saud in 1918 to form Saudi Arabia and take over the Islamic holy sites from Turks and Persians.

The 1948 Isreal border was a very controversial one that was a bitter pill for a lot of neighboring Arab and Islamic countries to swallow. This led to the 6-day Arab war in 1967. Isreal won the war but instead of being magnanimous in victory, they decided to expand their 1948 boundary and then took over almost all of Palestinian land. They also took total control and of the Gaza Strip by imposing complete blockade since then.

When the two state option was proposed, Isreal opposed it because recognizing Palestine as a country simply means Isreal will have to lift the rogue blockade of Gaza Strip and lose the right to invade the country at will. So, we have a people who can’t move freely on their land, can’t do anything without Isreal approval, are just locked up within their own land for no reason other than Israel’s need to exist.

So, above is what led to the creation of HAMAS. A group of freedom fighters created to fight the forceful occupation of Palestinian territory by Israel. China, Russia, Iran and a lot other other countries recognize HAMAS as a freedom fighting movement while Isreal and her western allies have tagged HAMAS a terrorist organization.

Like I said, I’m not taking a side. It’s left for the rest of humanity to look at the situation and collectively take the right decision for all sides.

Cardoso Mutairu the head-slamming Yoruba Muslim Miscreant twisting history on its head. Those people that call themselves Palestinians now are very recent migrant settlers from Jordan. They were resettled in those locations after the Ottomans conquered the most parts of the Middle East. There has never been a State or a people called Palestinians. Your terrorist Hamas brothers are the actual invaders and land grabbers.

The owners of the land have taken their lands. They have a history in that place preceding the arrival of the Jordanian Arabs parading themselves as Palestinians.