djon78:



What even gave the court right is because they married under court Law's

But if it's just someone that goes and impregnate a woman without doing culture norms and no court legal binding

That pikin don go
Nothing the guy can do

I have such a case in my extended family
A distant relative had a child when she was ninteen
She had a boy

The father took custody of that boy
Today that boy will write his waec next June
And get into university
He is very smart

The impregnator can't even near the child whatsoever
After the family have raised the boy up as there own

Another big man an oil executive from Delta Igbo
One of his daughters had a child as a teen
The Man later accepted that boy after forgiving his daughter

That boy went to the best of schools
Doing university in the US

Then one efulefu will come to claim the boy

Arrant nonsense


See in Igbo culture
We don't play with children
Even though my Dad married my mum properly

Still my mother's people still own part of me

My kid Sister's did traditional wedding some weekends ago

Even my mother's people had a share in the bride price and things the in laws brought from the marriage list


That's how deep Igbo custom is
We don't do things anyhow

And that's why we prefer marrying ourselves

Like amongst my family even extended
We married ourselves igbos

My parents had 5 girls 4 are married
2 are doctors
But they are all married to Igbo Men
One from IMO
Another one from Abia
The other two from our Anambra State

So that's why we rearly marry outside
We marry those that value our culture

And all my married sisters are treasures to there husband's

I keep warning our Igbo's girls to run Feom Yoruba's as far as their legs can carry them but some of them will say they fell in love, stupid love.... She has seen where the foolish love ended.

Igbo's girls, Stay away from Yoruba men o guys, they don't love you and will never love you and besides your culture is totally different, they hate you and your culture... You can clearly see that now....

CSTRR:

It's not your business.
It's not yours to understand.

We also don't understand why Yoruba people put sacrifices on the roads, but it's not our business.

Why is that difficult to understand?

If any change had to be made, it should come from the men of that culture.

Sleeping with one ada or Nneka in Lagos does not give you the rights into a culture that's not yours.

If you don't like it, marry from your side.

Read, digest and understand before you quote.

This is co-habitation and not marriage. There is no mention of court marriage, neither was bride price paid which is the symbol of customary marriage. So they were just living as boyfriend and girlfriend, co-habiting and producing children if at all the man is really the man giving the woman belle. What if DNA test says that the man is not the biological father? The court in the first place has no right to entertain the matter because there was no evidence that a marriage took place. If another woman comes out from nowhere and tells the man that her child is his, will he just accept it just like that? Don't be surprised that paternity test on those children will prove that man wrong. Na their wahala sha.

Islie:


https://thenationonlineng.net/igbo-custom-on-bride-price-wicked-evil-ungodly-says-ondo-court/

izzou:
I agree with the judge.

But what kind of man marries a woman for 23 years, without settling with the family?

23 years, and you could not pay bride price?

God bless you with this submission. The man is also irresponsible man. How would you house a woman for 23 years and not pay her bride price? He's an irresponsible man, that is only thing I can say.
Meanwhile, the culture of giving one's children to another man is archaic, satanic and unholy. For me I can't even allow a child that I didn't father call me daddy. Like my house girl, I told her to call me by my son's name.

omooba969:


If the couple never had kids, would your custom still mandate the man to pay a 'bride price' after separation?

they so choose to be husband and wife ! Of course

omooba969:


@bolded - Who made such rule, who made it so without considering the rights of the baby daddy?

It was done to discourage giving birth out of wedlock. In Igboland, it's almost like an abomination to give birth when not married.

For a whole 23 years as a prophet, the man could have easily gone to meet the parents for a lowkey marriage rite. The wife too is not a good person, she has ulterior motive, if not she could have told him the importance and ensure they they do the right thing.

She does not have the right to go and give the children to another man. That can only be done if the man rejects them.

omooba969:


Your comment further confirms that the purpose of the said 'bride price' is now defeated, since the two no longer show interest in the union; and is now (by definition) an extortion.

they are his kids .
He still have to pay her bride price and can seperate thereafter

Armaggedon:
Akure magistrate court indeed. He is only using the bench whose jurisdiction ends in Ondo for ethnic beef.

Issues of traditional marriage is for customary court.

Moreover ,it is a customary court where a marriage took place that has the jurisdiction.

It is even illegal to call someone "husband" when there is no evidence he legally married a wife by tradition or court, even if they have lived for 1 million years.

The lunatic of a magistrate even calls them "consenting adults"
What is a proof of consent in this case more that bride price?

If you like stay in USA illegally for 100 years, the day you are caught you'll be deported, whatever you have notwithstanding.

The judgement is very dead on arrival.


Every Piig on Wig wants to have opinion on Igbo issues.

I think your problem stems from the fact that you don't know the meaning of "consenting".

nedekid:

Customs, culture, and traditions are created by human beings to reflect their values, beliefs, and societal norms. So, in essence, customs, culture, and tradition are made for human beings, as they are products of human society.

Some cultures, customs and traditions have been known to be barbaric, wicked, punitive, lopsided and the best thing to do is to do away with it.

izzou:
I agree with the judge.

But what kind of man marries a woman for 23 years, without settling with the family?

23 years, and you could not pay bride price?

They were just co ha biting, they were never married so the union is illegal.

InvertedHammer:
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Unnecessary pronouncement.

The government is stronger than customs and the church.

Even traditional rulers need license of recognition from the government while churches need government registration to operate.

The government can change any laws they deem wicked and oppressive. There is no need playing to the gallery.

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The government is not stronger than tradition. Governments and states can rise and wane but traditions and religions will remain. It's even traditions that create laws for government.

Of course, a leopard will never change its spots... The magistrate left the issue he was supposed to mediate over to attrack a tribe for simply having a custom like every other tribe.
There are customs in every tribe you may no agree with but you don't go bad mouthing them, the custom is for them and not for you so you stay in your lane.

But nothing gives them hard erection like mentioning igbo

omooba969:


If the couple never had kids, would your custom still mandate the man to pay a 'bride price' after separation?

how can their be separation without marriage? Who raised you guys?

maasoap:


I think your problem stems from the fact that you don't know the meaning of "consenting".

kindly tell me, Mr dictionary.

Barbaric custom. Blood can't be bought, the court has done a good Justice. There are great men whose mother's bride price were paid but stick with their father's name.

Stupid tribe everywhere.waiting make them no collect am before she started chopping gbola??

djon78:



What even gave the court right is because they married under court Law's

But if it's just someone that goes and impregnate a woman without doing culture norms and no court legal binding

That pikin don go
Nothing the guy can do

I have such a case in my extended family
A distant relative had a child when she was ninteen
She had a boy

The father took custody of that boy
Today that boy will write his waec next June
And get into university
He is very smart

The impregnator can't even near the child whatsoever
After the family have raised the boy up as there own

Another big man an oil executive from Delta Igbo
One of his daughters had a child as a teen
The Man later accepted that boy after forgiving his daughter

That boy went to the best of schools
Doing university in the US

Then one efulefu will come to claim the boy

Arrant nonsense


See in Igbo culture
We don't play with children
Even though my Dad married my mum properly

Still my mother's people still own part of me

My kid Sister's did traditional wedding some weekends ago

Even my mother's people had a share in the bride price and things the in laws brought from the marriage list


That's how deep Igbo custom is
We don't do things anyhow

And that's why we prefer marrying ourselves

Like amongst my family even extended
We married ourselves igbos

My parents had 5 girls 4 are married
2 are doctors
But they are all married to Igbo Men
One from IMO
Another one from Abia
The other two from our Anambra State

So that's why we rearly marry outside
We marry those that value our culture

And all my married sisters are treasures to there husband's

did they do court marriage?

Armaggedon:
The government is not stronger than tradition. Governments and states can rise and wane but traditions and religions will remain. It's even traditions that create laws for government.

Says the person communicating in English. Is English also part of your tradition?

Armaggedon:
how can their be separation without marriage? Who raised you guys?

If you're unable to engage in an intellectual discourse, you can crawl back into your cage.

biina:

Says the person communicating in English. Is English also part of your tradition?

can I know the relationship between that and my point?

TinubuDeDrugLor:


I keep warning our Igbo's girls to run Feom Yoruba's as far as their legs can carry them but some of them will say they fell in love, stupid love.... She has seen where the foolish love ended.

Igbo's girls, Stay away from Yoruba men o guys, they don't love you and will never love you and besides your culture is totally different, they hate you and your culture... You can clearly see that now....

Do you still wonder why your women fall head over heels for us Yoruba men?

Do your research or ask around.

Armaggedon:
The government is not stronger than tradition. Governments and states can rise and wane but traditions and religions will remain. It's even traditions that create laws for government.

Have you started smoking 🚬 that shït again?

Ttipsy:
they are his kids .
He still have to pay her bride price and can seperate thereafter

Why 'bride price' when there wouldn't be a bride after all?

Are you thinking straight at all?

IfnobeGod20:

God bless you with this submission. The man is also irresponsible man. How would you house a woman for 23 years and not pay her bride price? He's an irresponsible man, that is the only thing I can say.
Meanwhile, the culture of giving one's children to another man is archaic, satanic and unholy. For me I can't even allow a child that I didn't father call me daddy. Like my house girl, I told her to call me by my son's name.

I hope you consider the woman to be irresponsible as well.

biina:
Was it also wisdom when your forefathers made human sacrifices and killed twins?

Was the girl kidnapped and/or raped?

You can keep your daughter in your house but the man has rights to their kids

Instead of breaking homes and making the poor children artificially fatherless, your culture should have focused more on training your daughters to not spread their legs for anyone who hasn't paid their bride price.

It is called bride price not child price!!!

While you hold the belief that your ancestors and the entire lineage preceding you were savages, barbaric, inhumane, wicked individuals who took the lives of others for fun, I find solace in the knowledge that my ancestors were men and women of honor. They were not capable of committing the atrocities the white man attributed to them in his books.

Jennyclay:
The prophetess must have gone through hell for the past 23 years in the hands of her husband reason she has to end that deadly marriage reason she even had to take her kids along.

Nigerian men will beat their wife to coma.
Nigerian men will rape their wife and they would gladly tell you there’s nothing like rape in marriage. Very sick and disgusting men .

Nigerian men won’t even provide and take good care of their wife and children.

Take a look at the case of that gospel singer, Osinachi. Assuming she left that monster of a husband, she would have been alive till now.

Somebody is ranting from experience

I'd love to tell the presiding Judge to STFU and face more debasing aspect of the yoruba traditional marriage rites and rules of cohabitation instead for delving into traditional matter he/she has little or no idea about.
But I won't, seeing it'll only derail whatever focus is left in us towards the looming, embarrassing anarchy this country is heading to currently
Where was this same judge when an ex- Zamfara governor took a 13 year old girl as wife in this country?
Where was he/she/it/shim when cases of christian girls forcefully married off to Muslims by their traditional rulers in the north happened/still happens till date?
Does this weyrey even realize that the silly yoruba cohabitation rights that encourages the unchecked birth of bastards as currently seen in the SW is long overdue for a review before we start seeing the "ronu" version of the alamajiri system that is gradually been tagged "agbero" in places like Lagos, etc?
Unless the woman in question doesn't have a sound lawyer and isn't well versed in law will the highly irresponsible silly prophet claim these kids.
Infact the puppet abi na prophet, the prophetess and her sugar boy plus everyone involved in this annoying story are all nothing but weyrey alaso in the hands of whatever demons that carved them.

izzou:
I agree with the judge.

But what kind of man marries a woman for 23 years, without settling with the family?

23 years, and you could not pay bride price?

That is just cohabitation and not marriage.
Sometimes I wonder the kind of premarital practice people who call themselves adult still indulge in. For good 23 years he couldn't pay the brideprice, it's a shame to him

izzou:
I agree with the judge.

But what kind of man marries a woman for 23 years, without settling with the family?

23 years, and you could not pay bride price?

That’s the point exactly. Bride price is different culture to culture. In the man’s culture, dowry is paid but returned immediately. It is a whole transaction in the woman’s.

You didn’t read the op though, if you did, you would have seen that the man paid part of the dowry. The amount isn’t mentioned but we know that in the wife’s culture bride price is usually exorbitant. Yet they lived together for more than 2 decades together and have kids and she is suddenly remembering this?

That part of the woman’s culture should be revised. This is 2023!

Without bride price there is no marriage in Igbo land, and the woman's family decides what to do with the children

Jennyclay:
The prophetess must have gone through hell for the past 23 years in the hands of her husband reason she has to end that deadly marriage reason she even had to take her kids along.

Nigerian men will beat their wife to coma.
Nigerian men will rape their wife and they would gladly tell you there’s nothing like rape in marriage. Very sick and disgusting men .

Nigerian men won’t even provide and take good care of their wife and children.

Take a look at the case of that gospel singer, Osinachi. Assuming she left that monster of a husband, she would have been alive till now.

how do u know ? And where you there why are you partisan in this case ? So let assume all this is done to the woman allegedly does she have the right to change the children's name to her new lover ? And if you are the person allegedly will u do as such ? Also note , she married one of the members of the church this is a clear affront on the husband and I believe this infidelity has been going on behind the curtain .