larride:


Walai. To even think its educated lawyers that actually sue him is what's making me more angry.

That Deborah incident really opened my eyes to how a lot of these people view things make I no lie give you. People were talking about they should have gone through due process instead of just jungle justice. I was like due process for wetin?? Wetin she do?

That's why when I see anybody wey carry religion for head I no dey look whether educated or non educated I give you space cos e fit sup for anybody and an educated person go rationalize am.

Religion dem born you put oh. If na Japan dem born you na Shinto temple you go dey

Amigoss:
JUST IN: Speech by Fathi Hammad, a member of the Hamas Political Bureau, regarding the Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood:

-"I am speaking to you from the heart of the battle. I have lost a number of my family members, and others are missing."

-"We will not abandon our land, and we will continue to assert it: 'Death or humiliation.'"

-"Displacement implies further humiliation, and we would choose death over displacement."

Can this cowards be told to stop using innocent Palestinians as shields and face isreal like real fighters.and jihadists they call themselves

They should pick one is the issue. The ones that want to leave allow them leave and fight to the death. If you so wish

Don't rope innocent Palestinians inside battle they're not willing or equipped to fight.

Can't keep playing victor and also playing victim

A001:

You're just the typical ignorant African that can't think deeply and critically about key issues. No, language is not just a mere means to communicate your thoughts. It's much more.

It has a huge influence on a human and is used to program people's minds. Obviously, you don't even know that means or entails.

It's better to ignore some posts here. I don't even know where to start with you.

Who programmed Ethiopian 🇪🇹's mind not to rise above the third world status?

A001:

Lols, na mumu comments full here. I don't need to do so. I'm developing a new field of Physics and Math for a range of key natural phenomena.

The level of physics and math involved is highly complex, even much more difficult than Quantum Mechanics that give a lot of physicists a headache.

So, that keeps me occupied and busy a lot.

When I'm done publishing major papers on this project, I won't be the one to translate it into those dialects. It's others that'll do so if they want.

My own part I'll play is to develop the field well and infuse it with as many concepts in Isese (Yoruba culture) and other native cultures as possible and lay a solid foundation for the upcoming generations to build on.

If a body of knowledge is well developed and has lot of depth and key applications that can solve various problems humans face, Oyinbo people no care even if you call am Ifa or Orunmila.

The time you are using to develop your new field of physics and maths for a range of key natural phenomena in English can be used to translate your work to the various yoruba dialect. Leave the white man's language, they will translate your work to their language.

A001:

Lols, this is a fallacy of false equivalence. Are Hausa people your colonial masters? Lols.

If I travel to Germany for schooling and adopt German to learn, that's my choice. And I'd use it as a secondary language and continue using Yoruba as my major language.

I wasn't forced or coerced to accept German unlike English that was enforced and imposed on Africans using inhumane means through colonialism.

Who force or impose any language on Ethiopians?

nihilistjnr:


Ororo is worth the budget of many west African countries. He is worth more than Nigeria's foreign reserves.

He has the money to fund his own private military. He is his own country.

Also, we the stans and associated faithful over here in the Ororo Appreciation Society are ready to rise up in holy jihad if anybody touch our Lord and Saviour - lashes for lashes, fatwa for fatwa.

Touch not our anointed and do our prophet no harm.

You go explain tire
I dare ororo to enter Iran if them no go flog SIU comot him body 🤣🤣

afrodoc2:


Those people have funny ways of showing that they don’t like strangers. There is a visa with 50 year processing time.
You apply at 30 and get it at 80. Lol

Omo

A001:
I just read some comments here on the previous pages and laughed. Many people dey here wey no know their left from right. See dem talking about different dialects of Yoruba as if it's only Yoruba that has various dialects.

These ones don't know the number of dialects and accents of English in existence today. Na wa for these people o.

English language has one of the largest, if not the largest, number of dialects and accents of all world's languages. That's fact.

The attached picture below only shows the dialects and accents of English spoken in Europe. See as dem plenty. For Africa, many dialects dey. Go to other continents and regions such as Australia, the Americas, and others, you go see even more.

So many ignorant people on this forum. How can you still speak and understand English language among one and another even with such tons of English dialects and accents available around the world?

Dull people must copy the smarter ones in everything they do. You go copy the way they talk, eat, sleep, pray, and virtually every other thing.

For a typical African, it's forbidden to think and come up with an innovative solution to problems faced in the environment. Let's wait for the whites and Arabs to build them so we can adopt them and do copy copy as usual.

I don't know why a typical African feels inferior to the other races and this inferiority complex even dumbs down their level of intelligence. Na wa o.

Rubbish.

All this English dialects will still have every words spelt the same way across all regions of the UK even though their pronunciation differs,unlike the yoruba dialects that will change completely from one place to another.

Come will be spelt as come whether in Cardiff, Swansea, Liverpool, Birmingham, Newcastle, Southampton, Northampton, Portsmouth, Edinburgh, Dundee,Dublin same as every other English word.


Now compare it with central yoruba and ondo Yoruba were words not only changes in spelling but in meaning and pronunciation.


Central yoruba : ni gbogbo aye
Ondo yoruba : ni de de

Central yoruba : Omo wa gbayi
Ondo yoruba : Amanuyi

Stop trying to draw a false equivalence here. Concentrate on translating your works in various yoruba dialects first before anything else.

larride:


Did you see that they are still going ahead with i-Dice?

Well, I-DICE-like. Bosun renamed it like I mentioned he has and refused to make mention of I-DICE.
Plus what he announced yesterday is a tiny section of what I-DICE was supposed to do.

Asides technical talent incubation, I-DICE has provisions to directly fund founders, bridging the VC shortfall. What he announced yesterday is funding 45 AI researchers and startups - a far cry from the initial plan.


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But I verified 3 things after the announcements yesterday:

1. It zooms in on technical talents;

2. It makes provision for upskilling existing talents with specialties, and;

3. It uses a Nigerian KYC company for the onboarding process so all the data remains with our government.


Bosun is beginning to take the reins but he still needs to FULLY implement I-DICE. Fully.

A001:

I stated before that even If I belong to a minority tribe in a place, I'd still use my native language as the primary mode of communication with my fellow tribesmen but adopt the more popular language spoken in such a place (whether native or foreign) as the secondary mode of communication.

Can you point out what's wrong in this approach? I don't see anything wrong there really.

Today, the UN and many people in the science world and other strata of life are keen about diversity and inclusion.

Every ethnic people, people, race clamors for equal representations and opportunities in all areas of life.

Anyone that has lived as a minority in Nigeria would know how it feels like to be discriminated against based on religious and cultural lines.

I don't think you understand how that feels like.

This is one key reason why I clamor for the local languages to be preserved and developed. The major reason is to address the issue of diversity and inclusion.

I support every African to adopt and speak their native language as the primary mode of communication and English language as the secondary mode.

What's wrong in this? Billions of non-English-speaking peoples around the world are doing the same thing.

Are they suffering because they don't want to come under the English people as slaves? Must the English people rule over everyone in the world?

A language has a huge influence on a people, and if you accept a foreign language over your own mother tongue, you've become a second-class citizen to those people and are under them.

Move to Ethiopia 🇪🇹 they are not under any slave master.

raumdeuter:


They also came as US Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Israel, and hours after Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, in a telephone call with his Syrian counterpart Bashar al-Assad, called on Arab and Islamic countries to cooperate in confronting Israel.

Anywhere you are stay safe tomorrow

Unfortunately, a teacher was killed yesterday, Friday in France.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/teacher-killed-knife-attack-school-northern-france-bfm-tv-2023-10-13/

A slave of the Arabs dey wail in my mentions. I no get time for mumu people. I'll simply ignore the mentions.

I'm sure the idiot doesn't even know his Qur'an has different versions just like Arabic language has different dialects as well.

It's not only Yoruba that has various dialects. Some people really mumu.

Many versions of his Qur'an sef had been destroyed in the past, yet even today, the versions of Qur'an used by Muslims in Africa than those in Saudi and in other parts of the world.

If this mumu see some versions of Qur'an (some Arabic dialects), e no go fit read am. The Arabic dialect Muhammad got the revelations for the Quran in is not even in existence again.

People wey no know their left from right.

If you know the history of compilation of their Qur'an sef written by the Muslims themselves, you go laff tire and wonder how can millions base their whole existence on a book with so many versions that weren't even compiled in the form of a book by Muhammad, its author himself when alive, but was compiled years after his death.

Obviously, the accuracy of such a book is questionable, and that's why so many versions of the Qur'an had been destroyed in the past, and a few versions are even still available now.

The version of Qur'an used by Sunni Muslims is not exactly the same as those used by Ahmadiyya and some other sects.

He mentioned different sentences in various dialects, but we know they're saying the same thing in slightly different ways. And just like there's a popular dialect of Arabic language used by many Muslims in Africa and those in other parts of the world, there's also a general dialect of Yoruba that many Yoruba people understand in all Yoruba-speaking states.

Mumu. I no just get time. I for do a detailed post on the history of compilation of Qur'an with proofs from Sunnah and books written by the Muslims themselves. Time no dey

A001:

Everyone speaks their native language among their people as the primary mode of communication and uses English as a secondary language. Problem solved.

It's a model that works in many non-English-speaking countries around the world.

Anyway if you don't speak any of the three major languages in Nigeria, you can stop using your own native language and leave it to die. It's your choice.

Others won't make such a huge mistake and become extinct.

But, this is already the norm today. Staying in Cosmopolitan areas makes people think English is the sole language spoken in Nigeria.

Hausa and fulani, use English as secondary language. Same with Yorubas, and igbos. I'd rather have a language foreign to all of us as the primary language, than have to speak Hausa or Igbo has the unified means of communication.

We have a senates and House of reps with many dialects. English is better abeg. Nothing will change if we learn Physics in English or Hausa. It was written by English men anyway. If Chinese people are teaching their people English, how much more we.

The vast majority of knowledge is in English. adopting other languages will only back-peddle us... Infact, our English is unique and different from that of our colonizers, so, it's not really the language of our colonizers any more.
"you are mad" to the colonizer means you have mental case. To me, it could mean three things; you're either mental, funny, or troublesome.

swiz123:

If you have traveled to many states in Nigeria, you will realize that language is nothing but a means to communicate your thoughts. As long as your target audience understands you, the work of language is done.

Language is more than a means of communication - it's a means of social identification too.

If you think it is much more than this, start typing in Yoruba and see if any non Yoruba person here will bother to engage you.

Wrong too. There have been back-and-forths even on this thread in Yoruba and Igbo. I can even quote such exchanges. Oasis seems to initiate some of the Yoruba ones I have noticed here and it catches on.

A culture-less person is as good as a leaf in the wind, and language is one of the top 5 elements of culture.

kkins25:
But, this is already the norm today. Staying in Cosmopolitan areas makes people think English is the sole language spoken in Nigeria.

Hausa and fulani, use English as secondary language. Same with Yorubas, and igbos. I'd rather have a language foreign to all of us as the primary language, than have to speak Hausa or Igbo has the unified means of communication.

You're contradicting yourself and aren't being factual. Apart from Hausa people mostly, most of other Nigerian people use English as their primary language and their native language as the second or third language after Arabic for Muslims.

Most of the Nigerian Muslims sef don even relegate their native language to their third language, after English/Arabic. That's the reality of things. It's not debatable.

kkins25:

We have a senates and House of reps with many dialects. English is better abeg. Nothing will change if we learn Physics in English or Hausa. It was written by English men anyway. If Chinese people are teaching their people English, how much more we.

The vast majority of knowledge is in English. adopting other languages will only back-peddle us... Infact, our English is unique and different from that of our colonizers, so, it's not really the language of our colonizers any more.
"you are mad" to the colonizer means you have mental case. To me, it could mean three things; you're either mental, funny, or troublesome.

Lols, Physics wasn't developed by the English people. The English people developed the field in their own language by translating books of philosophy written by Romans and Greeks in those languages.

This effort enabled Newton and other English people to make key contributions in that field afterwards.

However, science is native to the cultures of Africa. Obviously, you don't understand the subject being discussed here.

You said nothing will change by learning science in the native languages. Why then do UNESCO and many other expert educators recommend learning STEM in one's mother tongue?

Why do billions around the world learn science in their mother tongue?

If you're an educator, you'd understand what I'm saying here.

People are not really doing science in Nigeria. Na just la cram la pour. You can't be doing science, and yet a simple problem of lack of stable power supply you still neva solve am.

How many technologies and inventions have the Physics and Engineering departments in most Nigerian universities made? Lols, they merely regurgitate what others have done in other parts of the world.

The current model of teaching STEM is poor and ineffective. STEM should be taught in the local languages primarily and English secondarily.

Even na la cram la pour most first and second-class students in Nigerian universities dey do. Ask them to explain most of what they've learned a couple of weeks after sitting an exam, dem no go fit.

The English spoken in Nigeria is still English. It's called a dialect of English for a reason, not a dialect of Yoruba or other local languages.

I've said enough on this matter. Regardless of your opinion, those of us developing STEM in the native languages will still continue. If you're a science educator, I may even take you a bit more seriously on this issue.

But obviously, you're not judging from your posts on this issue.

A001:

You're contradicting yourself and aren't being factual. Apart from Hausa people mostly, most of other Nigerian people use English as their primary language and their native language as the second or third language after Arabic for Muslims.

Except in an educational setting, or one where there are many people with multiple languages, their native language is the primary language. Even in Universities, people teach in English, but communicate in their native dialect or pidgin(Which isn't English per say). You'd not find the common man in Sokoto, Adamawa, Kaduna, Kano, Jos, Ilorin, Ekiti, etc. speaking English......No sir.

Language is ever evolving, English of today isn't the same as yesterday. IN 500 years, all languages will change again. Just like they have done in the past. The indigenous people of Europe before the invasion by anglo saxon, vikings, and what have you have all been colonized by before. It's hasn't stopped them from progressing.

What you're saying doesn't make sense because

1) English is already our means of formal communication. If not for thieves, the country is doing just fine.
2) If laws of Physics are written in English, then, we must first understand it in English before we can transcribe it to Yoruba, etc. As you know, Yoruba hasn't developed in the same pace as Chinese, German, and so on.
3) India just launched landed on the Moon. What is their primary mode of formal communication?
4) I've already given you a practical example of what happens when one tribe dominates the others. It's no different from speaking English. You fail to see this point.

The Twi people hold all the power in Ghana. Turn on your television, and you'd find that the language spoken is Twi. This means the other tribes now have to push their native tongues to secondary, just like we've done with English.

I'm not a genius, but I know language barrier create tension. The unification of the Muslim world with Arabic, is what makes Islam a very powerful movement. Not all countries were Arabic, but that hasn't stopped Arabic countries like turkey from becoming world power has it?

We have already launched with English as our primary source of information. It's a rocket launch, and there are no about-turns.

Is there any country that used English as its primary language, and then reverted back to their native tongue as primary language? If so, what are the dynamics of that society? Are they multi-lingual or uni-lingual? How many ethnic groups are there?

Ibime:


Bangladesh yearly budget $71bln, Burkina Faso yearly budget $2.5bln

Both chasing $13bln nuclear power plant.

That's like a pure water seller trying to collect loan to buy Benz. Rosatom dey whine dem

@ your level i think u shld know the difference between getting loan to build a revenue generating infrastructure like nuclear power plant, refinery, e.t.c & using loans to buy SUV vehicles to foreign government, do giveaway to Afganistan, use the same funds to rehabilitate terrorist or build religious centres.

kkins25:
Except in an educational setting, or one where there are many people with multiple languages, their native language is the primary language. Even in Universities, people teach in English, but communicate in their native dialect or pidgin(Which isn't English per say). You'd not find the common man in Sokoto, Adamawa, Kaduna, Kano, Jos, Ilorin, Ekiti, etc. speaking English......No sir.

Language is ever evolving, English of today isn't the same as yesterday. IN 500 years, all languages will change again. Just like they have done in the past. The indigenous people of Europe before the invasion by anglo saxon, vikings, and what have you have all been colonized by before. It's hasn't stopped them from progressing.

What you're saying doesn't make sense because

1) English is already our means of formal communication. If not for thieves, the country is doing just fine.
2) If laws of Physics are written in English, then, we must first understand it in English before we can transcribe it to Yoruba, etc. As you know, Yoruba hasn't developed in the same pace as Chinese, German, and so on.
3) India just launched landed on the Moon. What is their primary mode of formal communication?
4) I've already given you a practical example of what happens when one tribe dominates the others. It's no different from speaking English. You fail to see this point.

The Twi people hold all the power in Ghana. Turn on your television, and you'd find that the language spoken is Twi. This means the other tribes now have to push their native tongues to secondary, just like we've done with English.

I'm not a genius, but I know language barrier create tension. The unification of the Muslim world with Arabic, is what makes Islam a very powerful movement. Not all countries were Arabic, but that hasn't stopped Arabic countries like turkey from becoming world power has it?

We have already launched with English as our primary source of information. It's a rocket launch, and there are no about-turns.

Is there any country that used English as its primary language, and then reverted back to their native tongue as primary language? If so, what are the dynamics of that society? Are they multi-lingual or uni-lingual? How many ethnic groups are there?

I don't have the luxury of time to address your points one by one.

So if you want Africans to adopt English as the unified language, they've officially become an English colony again like many African countries were in the past.

If Africa adopts English as the unified language, then Christianity will also be adopted as the unified religion.

Anyway, that will never happen.

Obviously, you don't understand the huge influence of language on a people.

I don't have much to discuss with you on this matter because of time constraints.

Regardless of your opinion, those of us developing STEM in the local languages will continue as I said before.

You've not shown me what's wrong in an African (whether belonging to a minority or majority ethnic group) using their native language as the primary mode of communication and English language (or any others) as the secondary mode of communication.

This is what billions do all over the world and are prospering. I don't know what gave you the impression that English language is the ultimate. English isn't even the best language in the world.

Objectively, there's no best language in the world because no human language is or can be universal.

A001:

I don't have the luxury of time to address your points one by one.

So if you want Africans to adopt English as the unified language, they've officially become an English colony again like many African countries were in the past.

If Africa adopts English as the unified language, then Christianity will also be adopted as the unified religion.

Anyway, that will never happen.

Obviously, you don't understand the huge influence of language on a people.

I don't have much to discuss with you on this matter because of time constraints.

Regardless of your opinion, those of us developing STEM in the local languages will continue as I said before.

You've not shown me what's wrong in an African (whether belonging to a minority or majority ethnic group) using their native language as the primary mode of communication and English language (or any others) as the secondary mode of communication.

This is what billions do all over the world and are prospering. I don't know what gave you the impression that English language is the ultimate. English isn't even the best language in the world.

Objectively, there's no best language in the world because no human language is or can be universal.

Just be capping with reckless abandon. You don't always have time but you can type one million meaningless words in false response of the actual issue. You better seek olorun.

How can Turkey be an Arabic country when their official language is not Arabic language?

They are also not a member State of the Arab League. make una take am easy.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
How can Turkey be an Arabic country when their official language is not Arabic language?

They are also not a member State of the Arab League. make una take am easy.

was TUrkey not the ottoman empire? abi,MOhammed was born in a Turk?

You'll read some things here and you will want to puke.

The way Okpa take carry this work ehn

Never will i have imagined to see a day Okpa and Oasis go dey play in the same team.

kkins25:
was TUrkey not the ottoman empire?

Yes, but they're not arabic country.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:



Yes, but they're not arabic country.

What's the dominant religion?

Funnies shiit I’ve seen

https:///ch_taliyan/status/1713035009634771445?s=46&t=fD8OgcXhLzcjNas1oCqRPA

obainojazz:
Funnies shiit I’ve seen

https:///ch_taliyan/status/1713035009634771445?s=46&t=fD8OgcXhLzcjNas1oCqRPA

Omo this mortal is the most unpredictable old skool weapons used by terrorist and Taliban

afrodoc2:


I don’t understand your question. And in what way do they not fall into the group that can use that name?
Like I said there were many non-Jewish people in the area that we now call Palestine; Arabs, Samaritans, Edomites (Idumeans), Arameans, Phoenicians, etc

If we are to go by historical claim (which is not going to happen anyway) the Jews do not have a claim to the whole of modern day Israel. The better way to do it is to share the land since both groups are already there now, but instead both groups appear to prefer to eliminate the other group from the land.

Why did the Palestinians reject every proposal made to them to resolve this conflict. Since the creation of the Jewish state, they have rejected every proposal towards resolving the conflict. The greatest compromise any Israeli leader could make was done by Ehud Barack which was more than the 1993 Oslo accord yet the Palestinian leadership rejected this offer.

kkins25:
What's the dominant religion?

Islam.

Niger nko? Pls can u tell us the dominant religion in the Republic of Niger.?
Also tell us their official language?

Gabzy1:


Why did the Palestinians reject every proposal made to them to resolve this conflict. Since the creation of the Jewish state, they have rejected every proposal towards resolving the conflict. The greatest compromise any Israeli leader could make was done by Ehud Barack which was more than the 1993 Oslo accord yet the Palestinian leadership rejected this offer.

You would have to ask the Palestinians these important questions.

iamoyindamola:

Omo this mortal is the most unpredictable old skool weapons used by terrorist and Taliban

Funny when it exploded…. probably killing the dude

kkins25:
What's the dominant religion?

That's irrelevant. Turkey is not an Arab country same goes for Iran.